VS "Love Your Body" Commerical Rant

Erisad

Not sure if this helps or not, but was a size 14 at my biggest, and that was a Small.

How is that possible? I'm a Size 6/8 and I wear a VS Large.

I think it's a matter of proportions. One may carry more of their weight in their hips and thighs than another, causing them to need a larger size. We're all shaped different and are all beautiful, which is why I found VS's campaign rather contradictory.

morgansmom02

I love VS, and they love my spending habits there.

I love mostly their clothes. Boots, sweaters for fall, they have really comfy pajamas, and also lounge wear.

I also love their bras/panties.

it is too expensive for me. I actually do fit into their clothes. And I am still "fat". 40 lbs less fat than before, but still. I just bought underwear, cute bras, and a shirt.

Yes, bras are SO expensive, I buy a new one like once a year...if that. stinks ;( But Thre clothes nline sometimes you can find great steals when they have sales. Oh, and did I mention their boots???

I heart the semi annual sale!

yoovie

Fact: Put a bunch of women in a conversation situation where one group of women is the target for their disapproval and within hours it will become a conversation situation in which they are all just hating and attacking each other individually.

BlTCH SALAD

ninakir88

Funny thread. Everyone gets so worked up.

I think Dove and VS campaign need to combine their ads, because in VS all the girls were skinny but in Dove all the girls were thick. There are different varieties of bodies you know

DieVixen

its a commerical calm down

kcarlson22

I had the same experience, it was so embarrassing. So I went to Nordstrom and they measured me at a 36DDD or F. I had gained a lot of weight, though I found out a week later I was pregnant but, even when I was D cup Victorias Secret D cup got smaller and smaller...they shifted their sizing smaller so smaller busted women would feel better about their size.

DieVixen

No offense gals but sometimes its just not cost efficient for stores to sell such a wide range of sizes. VS focuses on the smaller crowd and if you cant fit in their clothes it's not their fault. I was a size 12 most of my life and used to hate plus size stores like Lane bryant because their ultra cute clothes only catered to size 14 and up. Its different strokes for different folks people. I'm a 34DD and I still have trouble finding VS bras that fit me well. Bottom line is, somethings are made for you and somethings are not.

I worked at Lane Bryant once when I was 130 and never got so much crap from customers in my life

ItsCasey

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that just because an ad saying "Love your body" features skinny models, it means you should only love your body if you are a skinny model. I've worn Victoria's Secret at my largest (size 18/20, 40DD) and smallest (size 4/6, 34D). If they didn't want larger women wearing their products, they wouldn't make products to fit larger women.

I can't wear Lane Bryant anymore, but I'm not going to rant about how they obviously hate women who aren't plus-sized, since they don't sell smaller sizes.

Bottom line, if you don't like their products or their campaigns, buy your bras and panties elsewhere. I swear, people wake up in the morning actively LOOKING for something to be offended by.

nmades

Amen, sister! I honestly look at those Victoria Secret models and think, "Are they even the same species as me?" Then I read an article about how they eat no solids for weeks before a show and I realized that no, they aren't!

yoovie

Yes, fat is unhealthy. When you're done with your journey, if you stick with it, you will probably not associate with "fat people" anymore.

Well isn't that sweet? Personal tip from you eh?

I meant you will not associate with the term "fat people". You will not identify as a "fat person" anymore. And yes that's a personal tip from me, as someone who used to identify as a fat person because I used to be fat.

Thanks for your intellectual contribution to this thread

I reached ninety pounds lost in fall of 2010, 2 years ago. I still consider myself obscenely fat on most days. Hell I even take wide turns around things I could skim past.

secretlobster

Amen, sister! I honestly look at those Victoria Secret models and think, "Are they even the same species as me?" Then I read an article about how they eat no solids for weeks before a show and I realized that no, they aren't!

Victoria's real secret is diarrhea

DieVixen

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that just because an ad saying "Love your body" features skinny models, it means you should only love your body if you are a skinny model. I've worn Victoria's Secret at my largest (size 18/20, 40DD) and smallest (size 4/6, 34D). If they didn't want larger women wearing their products, they wouldn't make products to fit larger women.

I can't wear Lane Bryant anymore, but I'm not going to rant about how they obviously hate women who aren't plus-sized, since they don't sell smaller sizes.

Bottom line, if you don't like their products or their campaigns, buy your bras and panties elsewhere. I swear, people wake up in the morning actively LOOKING for something to be offended by.

Erisad

Yes, fat is unhealthy. When you're done with your journey, if you stick with it, you will probably not associate with "fat people" anymore.

Well isn't that sweet? Personal tip from you eh?

I meant you will not associate with the term "fat people". You will not identify as a "fat person" anymore. And yes that's a personal tip from me, as someone who used to identify as a fat person because I used to be fat.

Thanks for your intellectual contribution to this thread

I reached ninety pounds lost in fall of 2010, 2 years ago. I still consider myself obscenely fat on most days. Hell I even take wide turns around things I could skim past.

I honestly feel that will be me when I reach my goal. I'll still see myself as huuuge some days, even though I'm not. I'm 60 pounds less than I used to be but I still feel like the girl I was when I started two years ago. I don't get it. >.<

snowgrrl83

Funny thread. Everyone gets so worked up.

I think Dove and VS campaign need to combine their ads, because in VS all the girls were skinny but in Dove all the girls were thick. There are different varieties of bodies you know

This ^^^^^

Totally agree. I think they should work on promoting HEALTHY!!!
No more stick thin nor too thick. Lets strive for that healthy weight!

Erisad

Amen, sister! I honestly look at those Victoria Secret models and think, "Are they even the same species as me?" Then I read an article about how they eat no solids for weeks before a show and I realized that no, they aren't!

Victoria's real secret is diarrhea

:laugh:

runawaymomma

I hate Victoria Secret. I love their clothes, and the style but I'm a size 4 now and I have to buy a large in their undies!!!

rebeccap13

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yoovie

Yes, fat is unhealthy. When you're done with your journey, if you stick with it, you will probably not associate with "fat people" anymore.

Well isn't that sweet? Personal tip from you eh?

I meant you will not associate with the term "fat people". You will not identify as a "fat person" anymore. And yes that's a personal tip from me, as someone who used to identify as a fat person because I used to be fat.

Thanks for your intellectual contribution to this thread

I reached ninety pounds lost in fall of 2010, 2 years ago. I still consider myself obscenely fat on most days. Hell I even take wide turns around things I could skim past.

I honestly feel that will be me when I reach my goal. I'll still see myself as huuuge some days, even though I'm not. I'm 60 pounds less than I used to be but I still feel like the girl I was when I started two years ago. I don't get it. >.<

you'll definitely not get it when you feel that way at goal weight and all these real women threads just rub crap in your face that you are supposed to have one of these multiple choice bodies and all you can remember is that you arent sure which one you are anyway cause your brain is so entirely out of whack with your body and it sucks more than you could conjure up in your imagination.

secretlobster

you'll definitely not get it when you feel that way at goal weight and all these real women threads just rub crap in your face that you are supposed to have one of these multiple choice bodies and all you can remember is that you arent sure which one you are anyway cause your brain is so entirely out of whack with your body and it sucks more than you could conjure up in your imagination.

That sucks. Body dysmorphia is a terrifying feeling. Hopefully when the OP reaches her goal weight (and I truly hope this for her) she will find that her identity doesn't need to be affected by people who are trying to make a buck off of her. Lingerie corporations don't have the inherent right to dictate how you feel about yourself. I went through years of therapy to feel like I "deserved" to feel thin. It wasn't VS's fault, but damn is it hard to believe in yourself nowadays.

osualex

Wow, I am amazed at how many adults fail to understand marketing and basic economics! For VS, overweight women in their ads will not help them sell bras. People want to look at people they want to look like, not what they actually look like. I haven't fit VS since I was about 14 (at 120 lbs and a 34DD, mind you). BUT - as someone mentioned before in this thread - Victoria's Secret does not make big bras because they don't want big people wearing them. Most big-breasted women are also big in other areas (not all - there are many exceptions, including myself!) They want their bras to be worn by slimmer, smaller-breasted women, as that is the demographic they want to cater to. They don't cater to the masses because that is not in their business interest. Go to Wal-Mart if you want to find stuff that caters to everyone.

Brands do this all the time. They have images that they want to associate with them, and overweight women is not an image VS wants to associate with. If it bothers you, you should spend your money elsewhere.

FlaxMilk

1. A tall, thin person will almost always better show off clothing than another body type-- you're meant to notice the clothes, not the model. The model is nothing more than a hanger as far as the business is concerned.

This isn't an argument with the person that posted this and it's not a slam on VS, just a musing. Designers argue the above, but I think it's really just better marketing to say the above than to say, "We want you to think you'll look as good as the model or fantasize enough that you will." Because I notice the models who are very thin or in perfect shape much more than the clothing they are in, unless it's really spectacular and dazzling. I notice clothing much more on average women because I'm not distracted by stunning good looks. It's not about sexual attraction, but a beautiful woman who obviously works hard on her physique is distracting.

I don't have a problem with the marketing strategy--it's probably a valid one to sell things--just the argument that a fashion model is meant to be just a clothing hanger and that's why they use very thin women. If that were true, they wouldn't wear makeup or airbrush or glitz and glam them up. (Also, while the supermodels of the 90's were very thin, they weren't all "clothing hangers" and looked amazing.)

secretlobster

I don't have a problem with the marketing strategy--it's probably a valid one to sell things--just the argument that a fashion model is meant to be just a clothing hanger and that's why they use very thin women. If that were true, they wouldn't wear makeup or airbrush or glitz and glam them up. (Also, while the supermodels of the 90's were very thin, they weren't all "clothing hangers" and looked amazing.)

Truth be told, I would buy anything if they advertised a panda wearing it

Erisad

you'll definitely not get it when you feel that way at goal weight and all these real women threads just rub crap in your face that you are supposed to have one of these multiple choice bodies and all you can remember is that you arent sure which one you are anyway cause your brain is so entirely out of whack with your body and it sucks more than you could conjure up in your imagination.

That sucks. Body dysmorphia is a terrifying feeling. Hopefully when the OP reaches her goal weight (and I truly hope this for her) she will find that her identity doesn't need to be affected by people who are trying to make a buck off of her. Lingerie corporations don't have the inherent right to dictate how you feel about yourself. I went through years of therapy to feel like I "deserved" to feel thin. It wasn't VS's fault, but damn is it hard to believe in yourself nowadays.

Hell yes it is. And this is why I drink. :drinker:

(Just kidding, I drink for the flavor. Duh.)

Just noticed that I spelled commercial wrong in the title. FUUUUUUUUUU-:explode: :laugh:

KarmaxKitty

I don't have a problem with the marketing strategy--it's probably a valid one to sell things--just the argument that a fashion model is meant to be just a clothing hanger and that's why they use very thin women. If that were true, they wouldn't wear makeup or airbrush or glitz and glam them up. (Also, while the supermodels of the 90's were very thin, they weren't all "clothing hangers" and looked amazing.)

Truth be told, I would buy anything if they advertised a panda wearing it

^^^ truth. pandas can sell me ANYTHING.

rlmadrid

you'll definitely not get it when you feel that way at goal weight and all these real women threads just rub crap in your face that you are supposed to have one of these multiple choice bodies and all you can remember is that you arent sure which one you are anyway cause your brain is so entirely out of whack with your body and it sucks more than you could conjure up in your imagination.

That sucks. Body dysmorphia is a terrifying feeling. Hopefully when the OP reaches her goal weight (and I truly hope this for her) she will find that her identity doesn't need to be affected by people who are trying to make a buck off of her. Lingerie corporations don't have the inherent right to dictate how you feel about yourself. I went through years of therapy to feel like I "deserved" to feel thin. It wasn't VS's fault, but damn is it hard to believe in yourself nowadays.

Kudos on getting help. You've come further than a lot of people know how to on BDD feelings. That's very inspiring for me.

Lyerin

Personally, I'm not offended by their marketing or that they only carry smaller sizes. I *am* however annoyed that they market underwear with things like "my boyfriend's property" on the butt to teenage girls (via their "Pink" line). That sends a crappy message, and it's tacky.

Erisad

Personally, I'm not offended by their marketing or that they only carry smaller sizes. I *am* however annoyed that they market underwear with things like "my boyfriend's property" on the butt to teenage girls (via their "Pink" line). That sends a crappy message, and it's tacky.

That's not cool. :noway:

rainbowbow

I don't feel sorry for you at all. I wear a 34 AA.

Victoria's Secret, hell, even PINK does not carry my size.

so

BOOOOO HOOOO

ninakir88

Wow, I am amazed at how many adults fail to understand marketing and basic economics! For VS, overweight women in their ads will not help them sell bras. People want to look at people they want to look like, not what they actually look like. I haven't fit VS since I was about 14 (at 120 lbs and a 34DD, mind you). BUT - as someone mentioned before in this thread - Victoria's Secret does not make big bras because they don't want big people wearing them. Most big-breasted women are also big in other areas (not all - there are many exceptions, including myself!) They want their bras to be worn by slimmer, smaller-breasted women, as that is the demographic they want to cater to. They don't cater to the masses because that is not in their business interest. Go to Wal-Mart if you want to find stuff that caters to everyone.

Brands do this all the time. They have images that they want to associate with them, and overweight women is not an image VS wants to associate with. If it bothers you, you should spend your money elsewhere.

I work in marketing, and that is a GREAT point.