OMG CARBS ARE INDEED THE DEVIL HIMSLEF DISGUISED AS FOOD.
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My definition of carbs:
1. Carbs - processed foods made with white sugar, white flour, etc... It's that guy in the bar with five-o'clock shadow, that buys you a drink and you know the sex will be crazy good, but you'll wake up alone wanting more.
2. Fruit Carbs - fruit... The guy who you have that on and off again relationship. Not too serious but you want more.
3. Brown rice, wheat flour - The sensitive man who loves you, but deep down you want a man who's not so safe.
If you're into girls you can make up your own.
And this is what happens when I have down time at work.0 -
I have been counting calories in, calories out for over 2 years. I have stalled for the past year and a half. NOTHING worked. I am finally trying Atkins, and if you do your research before blasting low-carb plans, you'd know it doesn't elminate ALL carbs. The carbs just come from vegetables instead of bread. What's so wrong with that? Just because something works for you, it doesn't work for all of us. I am proud to say that Atkins IS helping me bust through this dreadful plateau, and I feel a million times better since starting the program.
To each their own...I'm really tired of hearing people blast others choices.
Do you know WHY it is working so well?
Yes, I do. I read the Atkins book, I fully understand why it works. As with any plan, you have to commit to doing it the rest of your life. I am. I'm not harming myself, I feel great, and I know what I'm doing and how to do it.
The Atkins book is very biased and seems to twist a lot of information in it's favour.
.Honestly, why do you care so much?? If you're against it and argue everything people say to help explain it, then DON'T DO IT. It's simple. Live and let live.
I'm actually not entirely against it - for the sake of losing weight, or living a very inactive lifestyle. I'm actually interested in doing it myself - to drop 30 lbs. I have read up on it, and understand what the body goes through, and why it works. However, if you wish to be very active, like riding a bicycle hard for 4 hours non-stop, you're not going to be able to keep up with the energy levels someone on a high carbohydrate diet will be able to.
If you'd like me to cite multiple sources, I can when I get back to my apartment. I've got books on this.0 -
That would be me. I do not know how people can consume almost 0 carbs. I used to eat a box of macaroni and cheese or a pkg of noodles at one sitting. I lower my carbs now to max of 150g. I am not depriving myself of anything and I can still have small/portion size amounts of it.
Well, if you're diabetic you probably want to control your carb intake.Why would depriving your body of ANY crucial nutrient would be good, especially carbohydrates, which are the building blocks of energy?0 -
well, my two cents. It does work, and it does work fast. But it's not the only way to lose weight. If you incorporate carbs it does take longer but who cares? What I've found to work for me is a simple calorie deficit with filling foods...and filling foods to me have a lot of protein, not carbs. Everyone's body is different and I think the bottom line comes to... do what is SUSTAINABLE and HEALTHY for you and your individual body chemistry.0
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Pro low-carber here :drinker:
You have a valid point stating eating healthy and exercising will cause weight loss, and hopefully everyone else here understands that concept as well. However, there are ways to speed up that process, and for me that has been doing low carb eating. I deprive myself of nothing, I eat what I like. However, I have learned to create food choices that automatically allow my carbs consumption to be low. I started this process four months ago. You can check in my photo album and see the progress photo showing the amount of actual fat, countless inches and 35 pounds lost. All of this since April, just 4 months!
20 pounds is a great accomplishment, so don’t let anyone take that away from you. However, you probably could have lost more weight by now doing low carb.. I’m just saying..0 -
I have been counting calories in, calories out for over 2 years. I have stalled for the past year and a half. NOTHING worked. I am finally trying Atkins, and if you do your research before blasting low-carb plans, you'd know it doesn't elminate ALL carbs. The carbs just come from vegetables instead of bread. What's so wrong with that? Just because something works for you, it doesn't work for all of us. I am proud to say that Atkins IS helping me bust through this dreadful plateau, and I feel a million times better since starting the program.
To each their own...I'm really tired of hearing people blast others choices.
Do you know WHY it is working so well?
Yes, I do. I read the Atkins book, I fully understand why it works. As with any plan, you have to commit to doing it the rest of your life. I am. I'm not harming myself, I feel great, and I know what I'm doing and how to do it.
The Atkins book is very biased and seems to twist a lot of information in it's favour.
.Honestly, why do you care so much?? If you're against it and argue everything people say to help explain it, then DON'T DO IT. It's simple. Live and let live.
I'm actually not entirely against it - for the sake of losing weight, or living a very inactive lifestyle. I'm actually interested in doing it myself - to drop 30 lbs. I have read up on it, and understand what the body goes through, and why it works. However, if you wish to be very active, like riding a bicycle hard for 4 hours non-stop, you're not going to be able to keep up with the energy levels someone on a high carbohydrate diet will be able to.
If you'd like me to cite multiple sources, I can when I get back to my apartment. I've got books on this.
Well....I'm not riding my bike for 4 hours. I'm a normal person who runs 4 times a week, who has a job, a family and a life. I am not out to do some marathon so my plan will work for me. You say the Atkins book is biased and offer to site sources from your books. I'm guessing your books are just as biased? Honestly, I don't care. This is my choice, and yours is to eat carbs. Or not? I'm super confused. Either way, what YOU do isn't MY business. Again...why do you care so much?
This conversation is pointless. Again...if you don't agree it, don't do it. Let people choose the plan that works for them. *leaving conversation*0 -
Why would depriving your body of ANY crucial nutrient would be good, especially carbohydrates, which are the building blocks of energy?
Actually fat is the building main block of energy...? The reason carbs become what our bodies use to fuel themselves is because the average diet has such an over abundance of them coming in. Carbs are necessary to stimulate proper brain function, but it really doesn't take that many to do it...
I would like to see where you got that information from. >.>
Honestly, why do you care so much?? If you're against it and argue everything people say to help explain it, then DON'T DO IT. It's simple. Live and let live.
Well put.0 -
Why would depriving your body of ANY crucial nutrient would be good, especially carbohydrates, which are the building blocks of energy?
Actually fat is the building main block of energy...? The reason carbs become what our bodies use to fuel themselves is because the average diet has such an over abundance of them coming in. Carbs are necessary to stimulate proper brain function, but it really doesn't take that many to do it...
I would like to see where you got that information from. >.>
Honestly, why do you care so much?? If you're against it and argue everything people say to help explain it, then DON'T DO IT. It's simple. Live and let live.
Well put.
:drinker: Ok. Seriously leaving now.0 -
I don't think that carbohydrates are the devil but I still choose not to eat many of them. The ones that I do eat are mostly from vegetables and nuts. The food I eat leaves me feeling satiated and happy. When I eat a more "balanced" diet I end up having a very hard time eating a low enough level of calories to offer me a reasonable deficit, considering my low BMR. I don't think it is a "fad" or stupid, it is just one strategy to achieve a calorie deficit. It is not magic. Eating 1200-1500 calories this way is very easy, I never have to white knuckle it. I can maintain my social lifestyle this way. I'm sure other people react differently to eating carbohydrates - but I only know how it works in my body.
I eat very low carb right now, but I plan to eat more when I reach a weight I'm happy with. Still, eating a moderate-carbohydrate diet (such as <100) is totally doable as a "lifestyle change" for me.
The other fallacy in the original post is the idea that low carb = high protein. Many low carb diets focus on increased fat consumption, not more protein. Fat is a great energy source - it has over twice the calories of carbohydrate and protein. Our bodies store fat for a reason
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Ya know, this may sound mean, but I agree!Why is it that people seem to think there's some special "trick" or shortcut to losing body fat? Why is it that people try to over-complicate weight loss by making up all these tricks and tips and fad diets (like the low carb or Atkins diets) that will supposedly just melt the fat off your body?
Cause people are lazy.
I think people use this "weight loss requires all these complicated tricks" things to give themselves an EXCUSE not to try to lose weight. "Oh sure, she looks good but she probably has a personal trainer and everything to help her lose weight, because it's so complicated" kinda thing. XD0 -
Ya know, this may sound mean, but I agree!Why is it that people seem to think there's some special "trick" or shortcut to losing body fat? Why is it that people try to over-complicate weight loss by making up all these tricks and tips and fad diets (like the low carb or Atkins diets) that will supposedly just melt the fat off your body?
Cause people are lazy.
I think people use this "weight loss requires all these complicated tricks" things to give themselves an EXCUSE not to try to lose weight. "Oh sure, she looks good but she probably has a personal trainer and everything to help her lose weight, because it's so complicated" kinda thing. XD
Wait, I don't get it, what is the trick? Is it a trick if you cut out desserts to try to lose weight? What about eliminating alcohol? Are these tricks? Low carb is just one strategy to create a calorie deficit (beyond the initial water weight loss that comes with depleting your glycogen stores), it's not a trick and it's not complicated. It is just one strategy for eating less and if it is easier for some people what's wrong with that?0 -
Your posts just keep getting more and more moronic.
Ya know, this may sound mean, but I agree!Why is it that people seem to think there's some special "trick" or shortcut to losing body fat? Why is it that people try to over-complicate weight loss by making up all these tricks and tips and fad diets (like the low carb or Atkins diets) that will supposedly just melt the fat off your body?
Cause people are lazy.
I think people use this "weight loss requires all these complicated tricks" things to give themselves an EXCUSE not to try to lose weight. "Oh sure, she looks good but she probably has a personal trainer and everything to help her lose weight, because it's so complicated" kinda thing. XD0 -
CARBS=SUGAR......nuff said0
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You know, I generally leave people alone in regards to their choices about cutting down carbs.
A few years ago, I read a study that talked about how low carb diets had the smallest long term compliancy while plans like Weight Watchers and simple calorie counting had the longest term.
Also, I know a lot of people site insulin resistance/diabetes as reasons to cut carbs but I've also read about people eating high carb diets and improving their diabetes, it depends on the type of carbs. Some diets, such as South Beach diet do try to emphasize the right type of carbs.
Of course it is alluring to follow a diet that empties out your glycogen stores and reduces water retention from the beginning so that you lose a lot of scale weight at first. I'm not interested in scale weight myself, I'm worried about fat loss so I'll continue to eat my relatively high carb diet.0 -
Oh, also, for those mentioning active lifestyles. I will admit that it is hard for me to do longer, sustained high-intensity exercise when eating very low carb. If I have a long race (like the triathlon I did this weekend) I do eat some carbs before/during so that I have some calories that are quickly accessible for my body. I don't find this necessary with regular workouts (<1 hour). However, the benefit I get from eating this way greatly outweighs this sacrifice in performance.0
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If we have to reduce calorie intake carbohydrates seems a good place to start, given that there are none we need to eat. Most folks can take 125g of carbs out of their diet (500 calories) and leave fats and protein alone.
There's more energy in fat (9 vs 4) than carbs, and carbohydrates simply aren't a nutrient that you have to eat.
20 or 30g of carbs in a day would be a vegetable intake beyond what many can manage, if sticking to the lower carb veg. So I can eat a pound of veg and be under 20g of carbs.
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Carbs give you energy, but do not repair your body.
Fat and protein repair your body.
You only need a certain amount of energy. That is why you should not go crazy on carbs. They do nothing but give you energy. I hate hate HATE seeing people on high carb, low fat diets. Destroying their body.0 -
CARBS=SUGAR......nuff said
Sugar = primary food of the brain.
Again, it is up to people to eat whatever they want but there are plenty of people who lose on high carb diets and are healthy.0 -
We are all individuals. Why not let each of us decide how to best handle our weight, health and fitness?
Let us define low carb, slow carb, etc. And decide what's best for us.
signed: not low carb, but I know my 47 year old body lets go of weight easier when I cut back on the grains. And when you're pushing 50, let me know how easy it all is.0 -
Ok, I wasn't going to comment on this until I saw this. Ummm....excuse me??!! You think I am lazy because I cut certain carbs?? I work full time, have 3 kids, run or workout most days and I am LAZY because of the way I CHOOSE to eat??!! Give me a friggin break!! I feel better when I don't eat a lot of carbs. My skin is better, I have more energy, I wake up with no alarm, I run better, workout better/harder. Man, I am one lazy mama!!
And being low carb is not a "fad". I have eaten low carb for years and will eat low carb forever and ever because I like it. I feel better. It's my lifestyle, not my "fad diet". Ok, go ahead and pick apart every word I've said and bash me for the way I choose to live. I'm so lazy I won't be able to come back to this rediculous conversation. :laugh:Why is it that people seem to think there's some special "trick" or shortcut to losing body fat? Why is it that people try to over-complicate weight loss by making up all these tricks and tips and fad diets (like the low carb or Atkins diets) that will supposedly just melt the fat off your body?
Cause people are lazy.0 -
Your posts just keep getting more and more moronic.
Ya know, this may sound mean, but I agree!Why is it that people seem to think there's some special "trick" or shortcut to losing body fat? Why is it that people try to over-complicate weight loss by making up all these tricks and tips and fad diets (like the low carb or Atkins diets) that will supposedly just melt the fat off your body?
Cause people are lazy.
I think people use this "weight loss requires all these complicated tricks" things to give themselves an EXCUSE not to try to lose weight. "Oh sure, she looks good but she probably has a personal trainer and everything to help her lose weight, because it's so complicated" kinda thing. XD
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Carbs give you energy, but do not repair your body.
Fat and protein repair your body.
You only need a certain amount of energy. That is why you should not go crazy on carbs. They do nothing but give you energy. I hate hate HATE seeing people on high carb, low fat diets. Destroying their body.
You also only need a certain amount of fats and a certain amount of protein. No reason someone would necessarily destroy their body on a low fat, high carb diet.0 -
Oh, also, for those mentioning active lifestyles. I will admit that it is hard for me to do longer, sustained high-intensity exercise when eating very low carb. If I have a long race (like the triathlon I did this weekend) I do eat some carbs before/during so that I have some calories that are quickly accessible for my body. I don't find this necessary with regular workouts (<1 hour). However, the benefit I get from eating this way greatly outweighs this sacrifice in performance.
This is exactly my point. I agree, a short, high intensity workout does not require any extra carbohydrates because your glycogen stores are large enough to give you the energy required for the workout. However, once you go over an hour of intense exercising, your glycogen stores become depleted and that when you hit the wall, or "bonk." The purpose of eating simple carbohydrates while doing longer activities is to prevent your body from depleting the glycogen stores so quickly, and to give you quick energy that your body needs to maintain the activity.
That why Gatorade is primarily sugar water.
Complex carbohydrates are a totally different story.0 -
Likewise - I lost weight on a low carb diet, and maintain by choosing healthy carbs over empty carbs. I think it's simply a matter of what works for each individual. It took me almost 30 years of yoyo dieting to figure this out!
There are endurance athletes who eat low carb. Have a read at the recent book "Low carbohydrate performance" (or similar) by Volek & Phinney if you like research. The body carries a lot more energy reserves as fat than as carbs, I have been low carb for 2.5 years and I can ride my bike for 12 miles or walk and jog for a couple of hours, which is as active as I've ever been.However, the same information is why it is NOT good for someone who wants to have a very active lifestyle!0 -
The only carbs your body needs are from those that are in fresh fruits and veggies.
Everything else is total crap.
The end.0 -
The only carbs I try to limit myself to (not take away completely) are simple carbs! But complex carbs are good they keep you full!! I can't never say," oh i am cutting that out!" because I found out if i treat myself when i do good, it motivates me!!!0
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Someone else from the "lazy" camp :-
http://www.dietdoctor.com/former-boxer-lchf-is-for-lazy-idiots
This guy doesn't like low carb either....
http://meemsy.com/v/26610 -
Hmm My opinion from stuff I read like this article http://wellnessmama.com/575/how-grains-are-killing-you-slowly/ maybe its not realy low or hi carb or even 0 carb is the right choice. I think maybe that if you get rid of the bad carbs and eat the natural straight from nature carbs that you will be healthier thinner and live longer with fewier health problems. Kind of like good and bad fats from foods. A lot of the stuff in that article makes a lot of since.0
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There are endurance athletes who eat low carb. Have a read at the recent book "Low carbohydrate performance" (or similar) by Volek & Phinney if you like research. The body carries a lot more energy reserves as fat than as carbs, I have been low carb for 2.5 years and I can ride my bike for 12 miles or walk and jog for a couple of hours, which is as active as I've ever been.However, the same information is why it is NOT good for someone who wants to have a very active lifestyle!
Yes, the body does carry more energy as fat, but what if a) you only had 8-12% body fat, you wouldn't have enough fat to give yourself the energy for a long event, and b) if you're racing at an aerobic pace, your body cannot turn the fat into energy at the rate your muscles are burning the energy.
I will certainly take a look at that book and give it a good read. I'd be interested in what it has to say.0 -
OK, I just keep seeing these stupid "no carb diet help pls" or "OMG I went over my carb limit what should I do??" Topics and just had to try and clear this up a little bit/.
http://www.drmcdougall.com/res_high_protein_diets.html
'Nuff said, honestly.
Why is it that people seem to think there's some special "trick" or shortcut to losing body fat? Why is it that people try to over-complicate weight loss by making up all these tricks and tips and fad diets (like the low carb or Atkins diets) that will supposedly just melt the fat off your body? Why would depriving your body of ANY crucial nutrient would be good, especially carbohydrates, which are the building blocks of energy?
I myself have lost a little over 20 pounds following calorie restriction combined with strength and cardio. It's really that simple, and almost anyone can do it. Expend more than your put in for a CONSISTENT amount of time;that is ALL you need to do. : )
So please everybody stop depriving yourself of carbs and fearing carbs; when you eat GOOD foods, like whole grains and fresh vegetables, your body will thank you, and you will get the result you want!
different diets work for different people. i'm with you on eating carbs but other people may find it easier to stick to atkins or paleo or dukan or whatever. live and let live.0
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