"BLACK or AFRICAN AMERICAN" mainly a question...
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I see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.
its ok we like rednecks too0 -
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I don't like the hyphen American, I feel that it separates people to much. I'm an American I was born and raised here. Black is ok, but if you want color, then everyone is a form of that color, brown, beige, tan, it gets confusing. The N word is a no-no, I feel it's like calling someone Fatty Fatty, name calling doesn't help anyone it just hurts. Just saying that people do stupid things. If you like person of color, or African American, then tell people what you prefer. I call my friends, My friends, and A**holes, A**holes, their color has nothing to do with it.
Nice post. You've got the picture. We're Americans, doesn't matter the color. We're people. Let's try and get along and make this world a better place.
This is one of my favorite threads ever.
<--Mexican-American. I am a proud hyphenator. I don't think it takes anything away from anyone else to recognize my heritage. Truthfully, even when I identify as 'just' American to other Americans, people inevitably ask 'yeah but what's your ethnicity?'. That's okay. I don't take offense to the question. I'm proud of my roots and I'm proud of my nationality. And I'll call myself what I want, thank you very much. :flowerforyou:
I really don't think it's fair for people to decide what other people should call themselves. Respect the differences, maybe learn a little something about why they choose what they choose, and move on.
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No love for us Asians? lolI see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.0 -
And also scalp yourself while you're drunk and building a railroad across the west.
(Did I hit all the historical stereotypes there?)
Nope, you're missing one about Jewish people and money.0 -
I see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.
You didn't particularly offend me... I realize that some white folk can get away with it... I just wasn't taught that it's ok... I was just more surprised at the non-chalance... and I was kinda irked that you made it seem that all Texans say things like that... particularly since parts of East Texas still has some racism problems... I still remember the time back in the late 90's where some white men lynched and dragged a black man through town on the back of their truck... In the 90's!!! I wanna say it was somewhere near Tyler... Jacksboro maybe?0 -
How is it fantasy land if it's our reality?I see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.0 -
No love for us Asians? lolI see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.
Dude, seriously?? If that's you in that pic, who couldn't love that?!?!?!:flowerforyou:0 -
I see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.
its ok we like rednecks too
My dad is redneck!0 -
lol so sweet and thank you =P and yes its me... showing the philippines flag on my back Proudly...
No love for us Asians? lolI see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.
Dude, seriously?? If that's you in that pic, who couldn't love that?!?!?!:flowerforyou:0 -
I have never been bothered by being called black or African American, the thing is with me is that my race shouldn't matter i dont judge people based on the color of there skin i base it on the character of the person.
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That's because MrsCCWoods you are a beautiful person!0 -
You are right, and this was Gosh---11 yrs ago. I know I would not react the same now, and again regret sharing my story and offending anyone.
Hang in there girl!0 -
I see a lot of people live in the politically correct fantasy land. Sorry for the people in TX that have never used the word or have and black friends that use the word. Im truly sorry that I have offended anyone. I love all black and white and mexican and canadian people.
its ok we like rednecks too
My dad is redneck!
REAL STORY!!!
there are black rednecks OMG back in VA at this building supply company I worked at I rode with this old guy named "Poke" one day in the truck the radio was on but it was turned down really low and Skynards sweet home alabama comes on and he quickly reaches for the volume knob and im like awww **** he's gonna shut this down. Swear to GOD he turns it up and starts singing ****ing flipped my **** out.0 -
Chocolate awesome....I like that LOL!!!!0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80WjQcbxt54 Something is missing here???????? 0 -
Quite frankly I hate it period when people feel the need to point out color--I have a name, it's Karen and that's who I am!!! But if I have to be "termed" then I would prefer being called black.0
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REAL STORY!!!
there are black rednecks OMG back in VA at this building supply company I worked at I rode with this old guy named "Poke" one day in the truck the radio was on but it was turned down really low and Skynards sweet home alabama comes on and he quickly reaches for the volume knob and im like awww **** he's gonna shut this down. Swear to GOD he turns it up and starts singing ****ing flipped my **** out.
LOL! I try to tell people that...When I tell them my dad wears a dirty azz truckers hat..he only Drinks Budweiser, he looks like Dale from King of the Hill...only black with no glasses...but my dad sounds like boomhower0 -
You missed the point...
N-gger is deragatory
N-gga is not
Until you grasp that concept...you will not undestand this debate....
I was always taught that substituting a word for something else, doesn't really change it's meaning.[/b] In other words, I wasn't allowed to say words like 'crap' or '*kitten*'.
Thank you! If I EVER here my son saying that he will be toothless. It's not cute, endearing or anything else like that. There is so much negativity behind the true meaning of that word. Changing the spelling or pronunciation doesn't change the derivative or meaning.
Ok...So let me ask you this? Do you feel the word Boy is an offenssive word? How abou the word BAD?
Changging the delivery of the word DOES change the context of the word....If I said "What's up my N-gga"
That's not deragatory...
But I a middled aged southern racist white man said "Hi, Boy" to me.
I would be offended...
In my opinion, it does not matter where, why, or when the term, in any form, by anyone is an offensive term in all circumstances. Its' very sound is offenisive. It should never be uttered by anyone ever again. I think it is rediculous that the very people the term was used to so negativly refer to find it so 'hip' to refer to themselves so generously. "Brother' use to be the term shared by blacks. How did this horrible word ever come to be so excepted by the very culture it mocked?
I have read that the word came from the River Niger and was used to refer to the first sighting of people in Africa in the area. The Europeans didn't know what they saw so they referred to them as simply Nigers, meaning 'Black' or 'Black spirits'.
Regardless it finally came to express the foulest of meaning against our fellow human beings. I renounce its' use. Shame on anyone who speakes or thinks it. A White Guy0 -
REAL STORY!!!
there are black rednecks OMG back in VA at this building supply company I worked at I rode with this old guy named "Poke" one day in the truck the radio was on but it was turned down really low and Skynards sweet home alabama comes on and he quickly reaches for the volume knob and im like awww **** he's gonna shut this down. Swear to GOD he turns it up and starts singing ****ing flipped my **** out.
LOL! I try to tell people that...When I tell them my dad wears a dirty azz truckers hate..he only Drinks Budweiser, he looks like Dale from King of the Hill...only black with no glasses...but my dad sounds like boomhower
:laugh: That's awesome!!!0 -
I think instead of white I want to be called German-American. I'm pretty proud of my pinkish color, huge bone structure, high tolereance for alcohol, and love of bratwurst! :drinker:0
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REAL STORY!!!
there are black rednecks OMG back in VA at this building supply company I worked at I rode with this old guy named "Poke" one day in the truck the radio was on but it was turned down really low and Skynards sweet home alabama comes on and he quickly reaches for the volume knob and im like awww **** he's gonna shut this down. Swear to GOD he turns it up and starts singing ****ing flipped my **** out.
LOL! I try to tell people that...When I tell them my dad wears a dirty azz truckers hate..he only Drinks Budweiser, he looks like Dale from King of the Hill...only black with no glasses...but my dad sounds like boomhower
:laugh: That's awesome!!!
Yea...I love his redneck azz....
He born and raised in Charleston S.C...and does not have higher than a Jr Highschool education...but served 23 years in the Army....
Loves fishing, drinking budweiser, and cursing in his boomhower voice.0 -
He's probably loads of fun!REAL STORY!!!
there are black rednecks OMG back in VA at this building supply company I worked at I rode with this old guy named "Poke" one day in the truck the radio was on but it was turned down really low and Skynards sweet home alabama comes on and he quickly reaches for the volume knob and im like awww **** he's gonna shut this down. Swear to GOD he turns it up and starts singing ****ing flipped my **** out.
LOL! I try to tell people that...When I tell them my dad wears a dirty azz truckers hate..he only Drinks Budweiser, he looks like Dale from King of the Hill...only black with no glasses...but my dad sounds like boomhower
:laugh: That's awesome!!!
Yea...I love his redneck azz....
He born and raised in Charleston S.C...and does not have higher than a Jr Highschool education...but served 23 years in the Army....
Loves fishing, drinking budweiser, and cursing in his boomhower voice.0 -
Did not read the whole 15 pages...so pre apologies if needed for repeating etc..
46 years ago I was born black. To this day I am black and unless I am mistaken...gonna die a black woman many many many years from now::)
The world can take it's titles politically correct or not and shove them. I refuse any title that does not serve me.
And just for fun- being mixed race and light skinned not only did i get crap from some of the less educated white folk on one side of the fam, but I got the lovely experience of being told I was "to white" when I would visit the other side... Gee whiz
how bout we all just call me Laurie 0 -
Why can't we just call people their names instead? Thats generally what I do. Interesting discussion tho.0
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Quite frankly I hate it period when people feel the need to point out color--I have a name, it's Karen and that's who I am!!! But if I have to be "termed" then I would prefer being called black.
You say it best.
Hi Karen, I'm Toni. And if I was referring to you and didn't know your name - it would be, "the lady over there" or "the woman right there." Maybe I'm too hippie-ish but really - why can't people just be people. Period.0 -
You asked for thoughts from "older" people and I qualify on that account. It is an interesting and important question. Way back when -- I'm thinking back to way before you were even born, the terms were either "people of color" or "Negros." But at that time, Caucasians were typically called "white." Now, I'm actually no more "white" than you are "black." I was always told my complexion was olive, which always upset me because it made me think of a sickly green shade. Yuch! And you, your hair is more black than your complexion. Actually, my hair was the same color as yours before it turned gray.
It was sometime in the 1960s as I recall that it was thought that if Caucasians were white, then Negros would insist on being called black. That was also the beginning of the phrase "black pride." A decade or so later, about the time the TV mini-series "Roots" came out, someone decided that black pride needed to incorporate a pride in the African continent. With that, came the African-American label. Why? We don't refer to Irish-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans. But, the term stuck and left many with the same question you have. What term should we use? Besides, it seems silly to refer to anyone by a continent. There are many countries on that continent and it certainly makes a difference which part of Africa ones ancestors lived in just as there is a difference in racial traits between people from the USA and people from Mexico even though both are technically from the North American continent.
As for me, I try not to use any term except American, or American Citizen. Our census forms ask for race -- I write "American Citizen." Race or the continent of one's ancestors going back dozens of generations shouldn't matter, period! Sadly, it does. Maybe some day we can all just be people.
Of course, this is only my thoughts on the topic. I'm certain that others think differently and that's okay, too. Especially for those of different races. There is no way I can ever share the experiences of people in another race so I can't possibly wrap my thoughts around how other think and feel. Please forgive this shortcoming in me.
Not only are you "old" - you are wise!0 -
Funnily enough, even in Canada where we spell it "colour", black people are often referred to as "African Americans" even though they are usually neither African nor American.
That is incorrect. Canadians are technically American. As are Mexicans, Guatemalans, Chileans, etc. etc.
We are all from the continents known as the "America's" and the original descent of people who have a darker skin color is from the continent of Africa. Skin color variations as well as many other physical features are the direct result of the geographical features of the land from which our ancestors came.
So calling a black canadian and "African American" would still be sociologically correct.
It is the ethnocentricity of United States' Americans who have fooled the rest of the world in to thinking we are the only "real" americans. SMH0 -
Personally I try not to be derogatory in any way. I have to ask for race for my job and most black people answer black. I'm trying to teach my girls to refer to someone by name when possible but to be respectful when you must use race. I don't think the "N" word is acceptable any more than the "B" word is. My girlfriends don't use the "B" word becauses its seen as disrespectful.0
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He's probably loads of fun!REAL STORY!!!
there are black rednecks OMG back in VA at this building supply company I worked at I rode with this old guy named "Poke" one day in the truck the radio was on but it was turned down really low and Skynards sweet home alabama comes on and he quickly reaches for the volume knob and im like awww **** he's gonna shut this down. Swear to GOD he turns it up and starts singing ****ing flipped my **** out.
LOL! I try to tell people that...When I tell them my dad wears a dirty azz truckers hate..he only Drinks Budweiser, he looks like Dale from King of the Hill...only black with no glasses...but my dad sounds like boomhower
:laugh: That's awesome!!!
Yea...I love his redneck azz....
He born and raised in Charleston S.C...and does not have higher than a Jr Highschool education...but served 23 years in the Army....
Loves fishing, drinking budweiser, and cursing in his boomhower voice.
I second that!
Oh and Taco, I appreciate your dad's service in the Army... I'm a military brat myself...0 -
*throws feet up on desk* who brought the popcorn?
Hahahaha.0
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