Need to Lose 100 LBS -Robins Thread !

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  • Robyn_T
    Robyn_T Posts: 540 Member
    Hello, everybody! Been a while since I stopped in. I hope everyone is doing fabulous!
  • ushkii
    ushkii Posts: 472 Member
    Monday check in: I am the exact same weight I started this year with. 9 months and all I did was yo-yo 5 lbs.
  • Deanna149
    Deanna149 Posts: 147 Member
    Monday Check-in: My first week went ok, mostly good days and couple not so good days, but got to go dancing and got my walks inand when i jumped on the scale this am, was down 3 pounds...hoping i can keep it up this week...Good Job everyone and let's keep going!!!
  • Morgori
    Morgori Posts: 954 Member
    Hi Everyone.

    Hope you are all getting healthy.
    Well I made through the whole day without going to the Pub yesterday! I still want to go bad though.:devil: I will see if I can last a while.
    I am at work and my back is making it through the day so far. I had a pretty big lunch today as there was some left over organic grilled chicken left from last night so I had a sandwich that had a pretty good amount of chicken. My wife had to use her new pampered chef BBQ Roasting Pan & Can Holder.

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    I used to just use the beer can to make “Beer can chicken”. This thing did work pretty well though and it is nice to roast the veggies simultaneously around the bird. I’m sure the cost was way more than a beer though. I filled a can with low sodium organic chicken broth. Got the chicken standing up over the can of broth and put it in the grill for 75 minutes. It was very tasty and it was a real nice chicken. The roasted veggies were very tasty too.
    Let us all have a great week, get healthy, enjoy our jobs, enjoy our families and friends, and remember to have some fun!

    Tom

    Hi Robyn_T hope you are doing well also!
  • MyM0wM0w
    MyM0wM0w Posts: 2,008 Member
    Tom - Would it help to set up a day to visit the pub? Think about the longest amount of time you THINK you could stay away and tack on a few days. Mark it on the calendar and make it into a big date with Mrs. M.

    That's what I do with my favorite restaurants/treats. I KNOW I'm going and get to spend weeks if not months planning exactly what I'm going to eat and looking forward to it.




    Wow..... I have absolutely no life...... /sigh :grumble:
  • Bigaug
    Bigaug Posts: 395 Member
    Monday check in - Is it time to go home yet?

    aug
  • Garetie
    Garetie Posts: 92 Member
    Hello all!

    Last week in review

    Monday: AM walk/ PM bike - done/and done!
    Tuesday: AM walk/jog- done/and some jogging not much
    Wednesday: AM walk/ PM bike -done/ done
    Thurdays: AM walk/jog - done/and little jogging
    Friday: AM walk/ PM bike - little walk/ short bike ride
    Saturday: Long bike ride (goal of 14 miles) I don't know how far I rode on Saturday, went with my sister, pretty sure I burned more calories laughing than riding. :happy:
    Sunday: rest - barely moved all day.

    I did not have the best weekend diet wise, but it sure was fun! I spent all of Saturday with my sister, and ended up drinking way too much. :blushing: but it was fun. Sunday was a day of mending my hangover, and eating way too much.

    Today is Monday and I'm back on track. My goal is to repeat my exercise goal from last week and add logging on to MFP on the weekend to remind me to stay the course.
  • RobinsEgg
    RobinsEgg Posts: 3,702 Member
    Monday check in: I am the exact same weight I started this year with. 9 months and all I did was yo-yo 5 lbs.

    Ushkii - are you going to be bummed or at least be proud of the fact that for 9 months you were living basically in maintenance mode. You didn't gain or lose weight. And if you hadn't been paying attention, where would you have been in 9 months? Heck, you could have gained 25 pounds or something awful.

    So, I'm going to give you a little shove. Take the time and go to your reports and look at your food and calorie reports for the last 9 months and see what you can learn. Take your calorie intake down by 200 or more calories a day, but more importantly, get your carbohydrates down to below 200 gms a day, and work toward 150 g a day. That's the sweet spot for losing weight - 150 gs a day. And start exercising regularly, and recording it, and logging in here daily.

    I want to see you more often, Ushkii!:drinker:
  • tootsanderson
    tootsanderson Posts: 1,636 Member
    I've developed an atrial fibrillation, or atrial flutter if you prefer, and i'm trying to get in and get an appointment to find out what's causing it. could be something as simple as too much caffeine or hormones, or it could be a serious heart problem. but since my family has a history of early heart problems, better safe than sorry. i'm not happy about it though. i don't want to go. i've been putting it off for weeks.
  • Hi Everyone! Saturdays are busy for me....I have two boys 6 and 3, and I had to work. Sunday was a little better. I got a chance to focus on the week ahead. I need to plan a menu for the week with healthier choices for all of us! I went to kickboxing tonight, so that felt wonderful!
  • linder4866
    linder4866 Posts: 11,411 Member
    I've developed an atrial fibrillation, or atrial flutter if you prefer, and i'm trying to get in and get an appointment to find out what's causing it. could be something as simple as too much caffeine or hormones, or it could be a serious heart problem. but since my family has a history of early heart problems, better safe than sorry. i'm not happy about it though. i don't want to go. i've been putting it off for weeks.

    Please get to the doctor as soon as you can...........no really. GO!! I don't know alot about this but my dad developed atrial fibrillation some years ago----and not trying to frighten you----he had a stroke and the doctors told me that was likely the cause.

    I'm concerned for you.

    Lin
  • tootsanderson
    tootsanderson Posts: 1,636 Member
    I've developed an atrial fibrillation, or atrial flutter if you prefer, and i'm trying to get in and get an appointment to find out what's causing it. could be something as simple as too much caffeine or hormones, or it could be a serious heart problem. but since my family has a history of early heart problems, better safe than sorry. i'm not happy about it though. i don't want to go. i've been putting it off for weeks.

    Please get to the doctor as soon as you can...........no really. GO!! I don't know alot about this but my dad developed atrial fibrillation some years ago----and not trying to frighten you----he had a stroke and the doctors told me that was likely the cause.

    I'm concerned for you.

    Lin

    yeah, i read that they can make you five times more likely to have a stroke. i programmed the doctors number into my phone today. it was already too late to call when i did it, but i will call tomorrow. actually, i will call right now and leave a message. they can call me back tomorrow.
  • skinnyjeanzbound
    skinnyjeanzbound Posts: 3,932 Member
    @toots--I agree with Lin--get thee to a doctor!!

    @ushkii--I was thinking exactly what robin said--maintainence can be more difficult than losing the weight (from what I've heard from friends on here). Consider it "practice" for WHEN (not if) you meet your goal weight.

    @margaret--great job sticking to your workout schedule--that's a lot of exercise!!

    @deanna--dancing is one of my favorite forms of exercise--I'm kind of sad that the Chicago festival season is over b/c I will have a lot less opportunities to do it until next summer. :cry:

    @robyn, gerrit, and mara--great to see you all again!! :flowerforyou: Robyn LOVE your new profile pic--you look awesome!!

    @jana & beach--glad you're feeling better and jana, good plan to wait a day to run, but I know how you feel--I get really antsy when I can't run.

    @mymowmow & sunshine--congrats on the losses!! :drinker:

    @kelley--yeah, I got over my cold really quickly. I've found that since I started exercising and eating healthier, I don't get sick as often and even if I do, I get over it really quickly. Before my lifestyle change, every virus or bacteria would go straight to my chest and I would end up with a respiratory infection, bronchitis, or even walking pneumonia. But over the past year and a half, I've only caught a couple of mild colds. :bigsmile:

    @sara--yes, the AP essays are MUCH better--truly a joy to grade compared to the hot mess my juniors produced. I actually handed back those junior essays today and we went over the most common problems. I also had to pull a couple of kids aside and insist that they go get some help in our school's literacy center otherwise they won't make it in the honors level.

    @jt--ahhh, the dreaded TB! I've learned that when that fourth meal craving hits, stick to the standard hard shell tacos. Not great at 170 cal each, but much better than my old friend the crunchwrap supreme which is over 500!! I know you didn't get to make the choice when DH surprised you, but maybe let him (and daughter) know about this better option for future reference.

    AFM (reminds me of datenshi--anyone heard from her lately?)--I had a pretty good day. Got a lot of grading done throughout the work day which is harder on Mondays b/c we have shortened classes, so my opens go by really quickly. Stayed after for a bit to finish grading some posters my kids did to go along with the speeches they gave last week, then had to rush to get gunner's walk in before the skies opened. It was a torrential downpour and I almost let it keep me from the gym. But then I remembered that I'm not sugar so I won't melt, and I put on my raincoat and headed to the gym.

    Monday check-in:
    Mon--walk dog + gym (weight machines and stair master) DONE!!!
    Tues--walk dog + core work
    Wed--long run w/dog
    Thurs--walk dog + core work
    Fri--walk dog
    Sat--walk dog + gym (weight machines and speed intervals on treadmill)
    Sun--walk dog + gym (stair master and stationary bike)

    Grading goals:
    1. 8/22 writing reflections
    2. x/22 vocab quizzes
    3. x/58 F451 short answer tests
    4. x/22 parts of speech post tests
    5. 14/49 AP essays
    6. finish re-reading The Awakening (um, by tomorrow!)
  • tootsanderson
    tootsanderson Posts: 1,636 Member
    Okay, i left a message. let's see how long it takes for them to call me back. i guess i'm not as worried because i had one before, years ago and they told me there didn't appear to be anything wrong with the ekg and everything so it was probably hormones.
  • MyM0wM0w
    MyM0wM0w Posts: 2,008 Member
    Toots I had a stroke @ age 38. PLEASE get in there ASAP. That is NOT something you want to mess with. Paralyzed and learning how to walk again puts a real krimp in your life.

    Time to take care of yourself.
  • Lauriek70
    Lauriek70 Posts: 2,087 Member
    Today was a good day overall.
    No work today so I was able to relax somewhat but did grade papers and plan a lesson for tomorrow. Went out with a guy friend tonight and we were able to catch up and enjoy each others company. I can't say that we are dating yet but it is nice to spend time with a guy who likes me just for me. We went to the movies and saw ParaNorm, which was better than I thought it would be a little funny but somewhat dark. Then out to dinner. We went to a chinese restaurant that cooks their food with a little less oil and salt. That was a good find.

    This will be another busy week but hopefully I can find time to exercise.

    I did meet with a potential new trainer tonight. I am not overly impressed but may give him a chance just so I can use up my visits. I may have him walk me through a full workout with him instead of just talking and doing some fitness testing. At least a ran 200 M in a 1 min. 4 sec. Still need to work on my pacing and form. I hope to meet with my other trainer on Wednesday.

    camajade- Happy Birthday and best wishes for the rest of the year. Welcome to the group.

    Welcome to all the new people.

    naceto- Enjoy the time you spend with the guy. Just have fun right now and if he asks about a LTR- be honest with him.
  • NAcetoLang
    NAcetoLang Posts: 517 Member
    Checking in! I feel pretty good, though I am afraid I still feel a bit hungover from Saturday. I don't usually drink much (if at all) since this started, so my body is paying me back for the abuse. I'm just super tired and feel worn out. Lesson learned.

    Thanks y'all for the advice on "the guy". I have decided to give him a chance and just be honest with him if he moves too fast. Who knows what will happen. One day (date) at a time....

    I will have to catch up with each of you when I have a bit more energy. :yawn:
  • tootsanderson
    tootsanderson Posts: 1,636 Member
    Toots I had a stroke @ age 38. PLEASE get in there ASAP. That is NOT something you want to mess with. Paralyzed and learning how to walk again puts a real krimp in your life.

    Time to take care of yourself.

    yeah, i'll be 37 in a few weeks. no one in my family has ever had a stroke but we have TONS of people with early heart disease. to the point that it absolutely has to be some kind of congenital defect. my uncle had his first heart attack at 35. my father had triple bipass surgery at 43. so far it's never been a female trait but i don't want to be the first one. anyway, i am going. i called already.
  • GrammyWhammy
    GrammyWhammy Posts: 484 Member
    Toots: Sorry about that flutter. Hope you hear from your Dr. soon. BTW, a-fib can be controlled for many years with the right meds. Eventually though the meds cease to be effective. That's about where I am now.

    Coincidentally I had to leave the gym today after only 15 minutes due to my a-fib acting up. When it kicks in (that stupid flutter), I get breathless and tired, and so while on the arc trainer I simply could not move fast enough, I got clammy, and more than a little shakey. This is the first time I had to leave the gym without completing a workout in17 months! Went to the Dr.'s office for an ekg and the nurse verified I was in a-fib, but Dr. was in surgery and couldn't see me then. His office called back and said he wants to discuss options with me later this week. What that means is an ablation, which I've been fighting all year. Now that I'm back in sinus rhythm (a few hours later), I don't want to talk to him. His arguments make sense, but I am a BIG CHICKEN! :noway:

    I'll pray for you. Please do the same for me.

    Oh, having a-fib does not mean you will have a heart attack. It's an "electrical problem." I've had many cardiac diagnostic tests, and none indicate any heart disease whatsoever. The stroke factor has to do with blood pooling in one of your chambers and clotting. I take warfarin (blood thinner) to prevent those clots. One benefit of the ablation would be the elimination of that clotting risk and the Rx, which needs to be managed carefully.

    Halloween challenge: 7,168 steps today, 59,304 steps so far out of 400,000.
  • monarchris
    monarchris Posts: 262 Member
    Toots: Sorry about that flutter. Hope you hear from your Dr. soon. BTW, a-fib can be controlled for many years with the right meds. Eventually though the meds cease to be effective. That's about where I am now.

    Coincidentally I had to leave the gym today after only 15 minutes due to my a-fib acting up. When it kicks in (that stupid flutter), I get breathless and tired, and so while on the arc trainer I simply could not move fast enough, I got clammy, and more than a little shakey. This is the first time I had to leave the gym without completing a workout in17 months! Went to the Dr.'s office for an ekg and the nurse verified I was in a-fib, but Dr. was in surgery and couldn't see me then. His office called back and said he wants to discuss options with me later this week. What that means is an ablation, which I've been fighting all year. Now that I'm back in sinus rhythm (a few hours later), I don't want to talk to him. His arguments make sense, but I am a BIG CHICKEN! :noway:

    I'll pray for you. Please do the same for me.

    Oh, having a-fib does not mean you will have a heart attack. It's an "electrical problem." I've had many cardiac diagnostic tests, and none indicate any heart disease whatsoever. The stroke factor has to do with blood pooling in one of your chambers and clotting. I take warfarin (blood thinner) to prevent those clots. One benefit of the ablation would be the elimination of that clotting risk and the Rx, which needs to be managed carefully.

    Halloween challenge: 7,168 steps today, 59,304 steps so far out of 400,000.


    Grammy, my sister had the procedure done as medicine couldn't control it and she kept ending up in ER. Since the procedure she hasn't had any more problems with a-fib. The procedure didn't take long and she was only in hospital for 2 days and 1 night. I would go with the doc's suggestion.
  • susan2396
    susan2396 Posts: 794 Member
    Monday Check-In: Good day. 60 minutes this AM on the dreadmill at the gym. Finished a book and started a new one. Loving exercising and reading. I know one of these days I'll have to start pushing my training harder, but for now I'll enjoy my nice walk and reading my Nook. Food choices were good too. I need to start getting to bed a bit sooner, but other than that - all is good.
  • Gloworm46
    Gloworm46 Posts: 96 Member
    Monday check-in: Shaved almost 7 minutes off walking around the lake today! Wahoo! I just started doing this walk last week so am really happy with the improvement! Training for a 5K the end of the month so i'll be walking around the lake everyday trying to increase my distance.

    Hard to believe that up until May I was pretty sedentary and now I do kettlebells 4 days a week and walk a mile everyday!

    Sorry to say I read through all the posts but forgot to open another MFP to post as I was reading. I'll do better tomorrow. For now I wish everyone a happy, healthy and awesome day tomorrow!:heart::heart: :heart:
  • CelticHippo
    CelticHippo Posts: 117 Member
    I have been AWOL for a few days, but have just caught up on the logging (think I remembered everything) and on the posts.

    @Toots - I hope everything goes well at the doctors and they find the cause

    @Susan - I love doing my crochet while I am on the recline bike (or occassionally puzzles). I find doing something I love really helped me get into the habit of actually getting to the gym...even though it did prompt a few raised eyebrows when I started (the double takes were funny)

    Belated Monday Check In - I weigh the same as last week, which is amazing considering the period of AWOL

    Tuesday Goals - to review my previous Tuesday Goals, write them all down and get on with them, rather than just thinking them up....also ensure copies go into prominent areas, such as the fridge, my phone and my diary.

    So next up is the gym, as I need to get back before the broadband guy is due (new broadband install - hopefully everything goes well)
  • grandmakaye44
    grandmakaye44 Posts: 1,205 Member
    I've been on MFP for just over a week, and have been looking for a group that I could be a part of. This looks like a great one for me. I am impressed by your upbeat, positive support of one another. I need that. 100 pounds would be a really good goal for me even though it wouldn't be enough. It seems really daunting right now. I am facing knee replacement surgery in the next few weeks, so right now I am pretty sedentary.
  • kah68
    kah68 Posts: 1,515 Member
    :yawn: Good Morning. :yawn:

    Had to change my workout up a bit this week, when I got to the gym yesterday I just wasn’t feeling the treadmill so got on my favorite cross trainer instead (love that thing). I’ve also added another personal training session on Thursday, so will change my treadmill/running day to Friday – hopefully I won’t be too tired, this is turning out to be a very busy week. Took Thursday off to have a repairman look at and/or repair my washing machine – so after my training session maybe I can catch a nap!

    @Karen~I think you are my long lost twin :laugh: – that used to be me exactly. I would start off with the sniffles, within a week it ended up in my chest and then I would be diagnosed with pneumonia. I had pneumonia 4 years in a row. Now, since I changed my lifestyle – started eating healthier and have gotten active I am rarely sick. If I do get sick, it doesn’t last long. I actually freak out at the presence of germs now – a guy sitting next to me last night was coughing and hacking up a lung, I got home gargled with Listerine for like 20 minutes and washed my hands like I was getting ready to perform surgery! :wink:

    @Toots~I’m very glad you called the doctor, I hope they can see you sometime today. My Dad has A-Fib (dx in his 60s) and has had a lot of issues and procedures/sx over the years to help keep it under control. My doctor is so fixated since it can be hereditary that she runs EKGs on me twice a year and sends me for a stress test every 2-3 years.

    @Marsha~A-Fib meds can be ineffective eventually. I’ve watched my dad got through so much – after a while he had a pacemaker implanted then had a MAZE procedure done. A couple of years after the MAZE procedure they had to turn his pacemaker back on, it’s such a stubborn condition and needs to be monitored so closely. A friend of mine actually had the ablation procedure and it worked really well for her - definitely something to consider...

    Kelley
  • BohemianCoast
    BohemianCoast Posts: 349 Member
    Hello everyone! It's been a few days, with my normal weekend of fresh air, music and too much dodgy food. I did lose 2 pounds (Monday check-in) but that was the two pounds I gained last week. So overall we're sort of flat for September.

    Personals are a bit random because I got behind -- read you all though! Thinking of those with loved ones in hospital at present. And ah, Taco Bell! I lived in the US for four years between 1978 and 1982, and I *still* crave Taco Bell. God knows what they put in it. And welcome to the newlings. This is a great thread.

    @Jana -- I really find it hard to just have a couple of drinks and not let it get out of hand. I'm trying to be better at this. But last night we left the pub rather than stay on for a last drink with our friends; the extra drink wouldn't matter much; it's the Kebab Risk that's the problem.

    @Vicki -- you know, a big, rare, steak isn't that bad (depends how big...), it's all the other stuff we tend to eat with it.

    @kah68 -- actually, 1.2 lb is brilliant, especially as you're so far down your weight loss road.

    @Gloria -- well done for walking a mile without anything for balance, and doing it three times. That's brilliant!

    @Purpleposies -- happy birthday to your little boy!

    @Morgori -- That Irish pub's portions are *huge*. Much more then you'd get in Ireland. A regular bangers & mash portion is 3 sausages and mash, and really, two is enough. And that's not a shepherd's pie, it's a cottage pie! Unless sheep have suddenly developed sirloins which I doubt. I'm sure it's delicious though. Maybe you could go with a friend and share one of those meals?

    @Nicole -- hey, just because you don't want a LTR, doesn't mean you can't meet a nice chap for dinner once in a while. Have a nice time!

    @Camajade -- I love your birthday present to yourself! I think 'if I lose a pound a week, I'll be fifty pounds lighter next year' whenever I feel down. I reckon I'll have Christmas and New Year on maintenance...

    @Christine -- playing with kids is such a good workout!

    @Robin -- hope you're beginning to feel properly 'on the mend'. I was interested to read what you said about carbs. I adjusted my macros to take carbs down a bit but I'm wondering if I should take them down further.

    @Toots -- get your heart checked out! It's probably nothing serious, but your docs want to check it over and they're right. Do please make the appointment.

    Got back to strength this morning after a week off... did my exercises, sat down with a glass of water and fell asleep for two hours. Whoops.

    Tuesday Goals; Big one for this week is not going overboard on Saturday; we're out all day with the Morris side, dancing at about four different pubs and a couple of other places, with lots of people feeding us a variety of goodies, and plenty of beer laid on. There will, I hope, be plenty of cardio. But still.

    -- Alison
  • Morgori
    Morgori Posts: 954 Member
    Hi all!

    Best wishes to you and your heart Toots.

    BohemianCoast - I agree that those portions look *huge*. I can probably talk MsMorgori into spliting some bangers & mash. I have a feeling we will each get something and split them both though. I have never been to Ireland, my sister went and I would love to go. I think any thing that is meat and potatoes and has the word pie in it's name is worth trying. So cottage or shephard's pie will work for me :laugh:

    I am in craving mode real bad. What the heck is happening to me? I am dreaming of food. The Irish Pub is still calling my name, and last night I dreamed of my favorite restaurant in the world.:devil: I want to drive to WY right now. I can taste the Buffalo ribs and or Buffalo Prime Rib and or Elk Chops right now.

    Mixed Game Grill $39.95
    A combination of our elk steak, buffalo prime rib, and a venison bratwurst
    Velvet Elk $29.95
    Elk medallions pan seared with mushrooms, green onions, and sundried tomatoes in a red wine demi-glaze sauce, served with garlic mashed potatoes
    Elk Chop $33.95
    A thick, mesquite grilled chop
    Buffalo Ribs $28.95
    Slow roasted and basted in our own bourbon BBQ sauce, served with Cajun onion straws

    This is strange for me. I usually do not remember my dreams but lately I have been. Could eating healthy be affecting this? I read something about B vitamins help you remember dreams somewhere I think. Maybe that now I get more B I am remembering my dreams. This is getting crazy I feel like I’m right on the edge of eating like when I was 400lbs.:noway: Is it strange that none of my cravings are for sweets and that I am craving meat and potatoes? I started MFP in October of last year and so far this is the hardest it has been not to just go crazy and eat way too much. I guess the good news is I pretty much want meat and potatoes instead of chips and candy.:ohwell:
    If you ever find yourself in Jackson Hole WY, you may want to visit

    http://jackson.gunbarrel.com/index.cfm

    my favorite restaurant in the world.


    Please make some good healthy choices today everyone!
  • MyM0wM0w
    MyM0wM0w Posts: 2,008 Member
    Welcome Grandmakaye and all the other newlings :flowerforyou:

    Tuesday Goals:

    Monday - Friday - 60 minute swims every day with the exception of Thursday (my rest day unless I get antsy and go over anyway)
    Stay within 100 calories of my (pre exercise) calories.
    Asleep by 10 PM
  • linder4866
    linder4866 Posts: 11,411 Member
    Tuesday goals - today my goal is to just calm down!! Gotta get my *stuff* together. Sooo worried, so on edge, and scared as can be. Not a good place to live! So that goal over rides all others.

    @Morgori - maybe it's the change in seasons? I use to crave more hot breads, mashed potatoes and stuff like that when Fall starts to roll around. Never have understood why. I've woken up in the middle of the night the last several nights just totally starving and that isn't normal for me either. Luckily I've just waited to go back to sleep, no food, not even a glass of water.

    Hoping everyone has a decent day. And have a glass of :drinker:

    Later.

    Lin

    P.S. Aug congrats on the new truck!!

    Anyone heard from Joe??
  • Bigaug
    Bigaug Posts: 395 Member
    Tuesday goals - I need to get back on track this week. More than just dieting stuff. I have been cheating lately on the reduction front, not over eating or binges but bad choices, junk choices. My housework is getting away from me, the yard work too. Workouts are also suffering. I stayed up late last night cleaning the kitchen and doing the mis en place for tonight. I overslept, and missed some of my workout. I'm letting myself become overwhelmed with all that I have to do and that will end badly. Calm down, pick the most pressing task and finish it. Make a schedule and stick to it. Get it done at my pace.

    @Vicki and Bohemian Coast - red meat is not bad for you, it's the green fuzzy meat you need to watch out for.

    @Toots - heart stuff is no joke get it looked at pronto.

    aug