"I don't want to be too thin" - a "fat" people thing to say?
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Yep, this. I weighed 110lb in college. I weighed 190 at my highest non-pregnant weight.I've never been "fat" (I was on the borderline of overweight when I decided to do something about it). However, when I was in high school, I was healthy, energetic--and 117 pounds at 5'4". That was fine then, but I would never want to be that skinny now. I have no doubt that I could achieve it again, but looking back at myself, I looked like a little girl. No curves, no muscles... easily blown away in a gust of wind. I think I was pretty then, but it would not be pretty on the me that I am now.
So when I say I don't want to be too skinny, I'm saying that I want to be strong and healthy, whatever that implies--not lose weight simply to lose weight.
I think I feel and look best around 140 when it's toned and muscular. Too much below that would be too skinny *for me*, although 110-120 looks great on some girls.
(In my profile pic, I am 22 weeks pregnant. A little softer than I was pre-pregnancy, but I still feel strong and healthy!)0 -
I admit that I used to say that 22 kilos (50 pounds) ago. Why? Because I had been overweight since I turned 15 (I'm now 33) & never have been under 63 kilos (about 140). My heaviest weight was more than 75 kilos or about 170 lbs. At 5'2" the BMI puts me at 101-136lbs. but since i'm medium framed so my ideal weight range is 118-132 only (recommended weight was 56.7 or 125). Because of that, I thought that reaching 56.7 kilos or 125 lbs. is way too impossible for me.
However ever since I took proper nutrition & exercising by heart then the rest was history. I went down to 53 (115) but at that weight, I looked really sickly & at the same time skinny-fat so that was where I decided to concentrate on building muscle so that I can have a modest weight gain. So after a few months, my weight is up to 55 (121) but inches got smaller & body fat percentage went down from *28% to 19.5%*.
* measurements vary depending on method used but the variances are very minimal so I'm more or less on that percentage0 -
Yep. Our boobs is actually 80% fat. Also the hips especially cellulite are fat as well. When I was really big, I used to have a 45" hips & I could hardly feel my hip bones. But at 36", I can now feel my hip bones (not stucking out but when you touch it, its clearly bones). Despite of that, I'm still a pear since my waist is 10 inches smaller & my upper body is quite smaller than my lower body (only 34" bust).
It only means that you're not really curvy & what you had are just rolls of fat. What I mean is that a real curvy woman won't lose her curves even after she loses weight. Unfortunately many people don't understand it.
I hate it when people give out the wrong definition of "curves". No matter how much you weigh, your curves will stay the same. If you're an hourglass then it will stay the same whether you're fat or thin. Its not about the weight but its how you built.I dont think its an excuss. I think people (women in general) look better with some weight on them (curves). It don't have to be alot of weight. But being too skinny is not attractive.
Rolls of FAT =/= CURVY
Not so cut and dry. Right now I have hips and boobs that add curve and shape to my body. The smaller size I get the smaller my cup size and a surprise to me and people who always knew me with curvy hips, I actually have a more "up and down" look to my hips. Not curvy at all.
Having fat on your hips and boobs are "rolls of fat'?0 -
So 121 and 5'2" looks fine for you, a medium framed woman...but as a large framed, curvy 5'2" woman, I would look sickly as you did at 115 at 130. 130 is not impossible since I've been that weight before..but to me, that is TOO THIN. Not because I think that curves are all I can achieve or that I'm lazy...but because I know my body and my curves looked better at a larger weight.I admit that I used to say that 22 kilos (50 pounds) ago. Why? Because I had been overweight since I turned 15 (I'm now 33) & never have been under 63 kilos (about 140). My heaviest weight was more than 75 kilos or about 170 lbs. At 5'2" the BMI puts me at 101-136lbs. but since i'm medium framed so my ideal weight range is 118-132 only (recommended weight was 56.7 or 125). Because of that, I thought that reaching 56.7 kilos or 125 lbs. is way too impossible for me.
However ever since I took proper nutrition & exercising by heart then the rest was history. I went down to 53 (115) but at that weight, I looked really sickly & at the same time skinny-fat so that was where I decided to concentrate on building muscle so that I can have a modest weight gain. So after a few months, my weight is up to 55 (121) but inches got smaller & body fat percentage went down from *28% to 19.5%*.
* measurements vary depending on method used but the variances are very minimal so I'm more or less on that percentage0 -
I think the ideal weight range for 5'2" large framed is from 128-141. 'm not saying curves look better at smaller weight, I was just correcting people's idea on what the word "curvy" means. Many people think that being curvy = overweight which is wrong. I keep seeing posts & articles not just in MFP with the words "thin or curvy". A curvy woman retains her curves whether she is fat or thin.
So 121 and 5'2" looks fine for you, a medium framed woman...but as a large framed, curvy 5'2" woman, I would look sickly as you did at 115 at 130. 130 is not impossible since I've been that weight before..but to me, that is TOO THIN. Not because I think that curves are all I can achieve or that I'm lazy...but because I know my body and my curves looked better at a larger weight.I admit that I used to say that 22 kilos (50 pounds) ago. Why? Because I had been overweight since I turned 15 (I'm now 33) & never have been under 63 kilos (about 140). My heaviest weight was more than 75 kilos or about 170 lbs. At 5'2" the BMI puts me at 101-136lbs. but since i'm medium framed so my ideal weight range is 118-132 only (recommended weight was 56.7 or 125). Because of that, I thought that reaching 56.7 kilos or 125 lbs. is way too impossible for me.
However ever since I took proper nutrition & exercising by heart then the rest was history. I went down to 53 (115) but at that weight, I looked really sickly & at the same time skinny-fat so that was where I decided to concentrate on building muscle so that I can have a modest weight gain. So after a few months, my weight is up to 55 (121) but inches got smaller & body fat percentage went down from *28% to 19.5%*.
* measurements vary depending on method used but the variances are very minimal so I'm more or less on that percentage0 -
Yep. Our boobs is actually 80% fat. Also the hips especially cellulite are fat as well. When I was really big, I used to have a 45" hips & I could hardly feel my hip bones. But at 36", I can now feel my hip bones (not stucking out but when you touch it, its clearly bones). Despite of that, I'm still a pear since my waist is 10 inches smaller & my upper body is quite smaller than my lower body (only 34" bust).
It only means that you're not really curvy & what you had are just rolls of fat. What I mean is that a real curvy woman won't lose her curves even after she loses weight. Unfortunately many people don't understand it.
I hate it when people give out the wrong definition of "curves". No matter how much you weigh, your curves will stay the same. If you're an hourglass then it will stay the same whether you're fat or thin. Its not about the weight but its how you built.I dont think its an excuss. I think people (women in general) look better with some weight on them (curves). It don't have to be alot of weight. But being too skinny is not attractive.
Rolls of FAT =/= CURVY
Not so cut and dry. Right now I have hips and boobs that add curve and shape to my body. The smaller size I get the smaller my cup size and a surprise to me and people who always knew me with curvy hips, I actually have a more "up and down" look to my hips. Not curvy at all.
Having fat on your hips and boobs are "rolls of fat'?
YOUR boobs may be, but mine are not. Some women have more mammary tissue than fat in their breasts, which is why they do not shrink with weight loss or grow with weight gain.0 -
Yep. Our boobs is actually 80% fat. Also the hips especially cellulite are fat as well. When I was really big, I used to have a 45" hips & I could hardly feel my hip bones. But at 36", I can now feel my hip bones (not stucking out but when you touch it, its clearly bones). Despite of that, I'm still a pear since my waist is 10 inches smaller & my upper body is quite smaller than my lower body (only 34" bust).
It only means that you're not really curvy & what you had are just rolls of fat. What I mean is that a real curvy woman won't lose her curves even after she loses weight. Unfortunately many people don't understand it.
I hate it when people give out the wrong definition of "curves". No matter how much you weigh, your curves will stay the same. If you're an hourglass then it will stay the same whether you're fat or thin. Its not about the weight but its how you built.I dont think its an excuss. I think people (women in general) look better with some weight on them (curves). It don't have to be alot of weight. But being too skinny is not attractive.
Rolls of FAT =/= CURVY
Not so cut and dry. Right now I have hips and boobs that add curve and shape to my body. The smaller size I get the smaller my cup size and a surprise to me and people who always knew me with curvy hips, I actually have a more "up and down" look to my hips. Not curvy at all.
Having fat on your hips and boobs are "rolls of fat'?
This is just where we have a difference of opinion. Yes, there is fat on my hips and in my boobs, I just wouldn't classify it as "rolls of fat". To me, rolls of fat would be actual rolls on a persons belly or even legs and arms.
I understand what you are saying that if someone has a wide-set hip frame then yes, they will always have that shape at any weight, but not all people are built that way and some of us actually like having any extra inch or two to have some shape and not look too much like 12 year old boy and have some curve to their body. Despite what the magazines may claim, not all of us want to look like Kate Moss. Yes she is beautiful, just not the body type I would want.0 -
I hate it when people give out the wrong definition of "curves". No matter how much you weigh, your curves will stay the same. If you're an hourglass then it will stay the same whether you're fat or thin. Its not about the weight but its how you built.I dont think its an excuss. I think people (women in general) look better with some weight on them (curves). It don't have to be alot of weight. But being too skinny is not attractive.
Rolls of FAT =/= CURVY
Not so cut and dry. Right now I have hips and boobs that add curve and shape to my body. The smaller size I get the smaller my cup size and a surprise to me and people who always knew me with curvy hips, I actually have a more "up and down" look to my hips. Not curvy at all.
Exactly. Right now I am overweight so I just have huge boobs and wide hips with the fat rolls. When I get healthier I will keep my hips and boobs but they will be much smaller and look a lot better.
So some people really do know what curvy means while othesrs do use it to justify their overweight body. Blanket statements are tricky like that.0 -
Hi!
Just something I overheard the other day that got me thinking. Usually larger people saying that they don't want to be "too thin" or "skinny".
In my opinion both of those terms are relative so one person views skinny as 5'5 110lbs person and another may say that the 5'5 girl is skinny at 120.
So when you say "I don't want to be skinny/too thin" what are you implying? Are you saying you don't find thin attractive or are you simply saying it because you don't believe you can reach a certain weight or is it just an excuse? Like you're heavy and you'd probably like to be that weight but are too lazy to actually work for it?
I don't mean to offend anyone. When I say I don't want to be skinny I mean under 120 (I'm 5'4) and at that weight I have hip bones jutting out and don't look healthy in my eyes.
This usually comes from two camps:
1. Women who have never been a healthy weight and so can't imagine themselves at one and
2. Women who think fat = curves.
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I think the ideal weight range for 5'2" large framed is from 128-141. 'm not saying curves look better at smaller weight, I was just correcting people's idea on what the word "curvy" means. Many people think that being curvy = overweight which is wrong. I keep seeing posts & articles not just in MFP with the words "thin or curvy". A curvy woman retains her curves whether she is fat or thin.
So 121 and 5'2" looks fine for you, a medium framed woman...but as a large framed, curvy 5'2" woman, I would look sickly as you did at 115 at 130. 130 is not impossible since I've been that weight before..but to me, that is TOO THIN. Not because I think that curves are all I can achieve or that I'm lazy...but because I know my body and my curves looked better at a larger weight.I admit that I used to say that 22 kilos (50 pounds) ago. Why? Because I had been overweight since I turned 15 (I'm now 33) & never have been under 63 kilos (about 140). My heaviest weight was more than 75 kilos or about 170 lbs. At 5'2" the BMI puts me at 101-136lbs. but since i'm medium framed so my ideal weight range is 118-132 only (recommended weight was 56.7 or 125). Because of that, I thought that reaching 56.7 kilos or 125 lbs. is way too impossible for me.
However ever since I took proper nutrition & exercising by heart then the rest was history. I went down to 53 (115) but at that weight, I looked really sickly & at the same time skinny-fat so that was where I decided to concentrate on building muscle so that I can have a modest weight gain. So after a few months, my weight is up to 55 (121) but inches got smaller & body fat percentage went down from *28% to 19.5%*.
* measurements vary depending on method used but the variances are very minimal so I'm more or less on that percentage
BUMP... yeah I agree.. im curvy bigger or smaller.. i always say I love my hour glass shape.. i just want a smaller glass !!! haha.. i like your more realistic wt range for the height.. esp on curvy girls like me.. im 5'4" and I look great even at 180! (im 221 now... started mfp 5wks ago.. was 234) but my more ideal happy wt is like 160-165 and way goal and dont want to be under wt is 150...0 -
For me, saying I don't want to be "too thin" is just that. I've been "too thin". I started out at 300 lbs and lost down to 115, and a size 0/2. I believed there was no such thing as too thin, or too rich. :-) My doctors reinforced that by saying the exact phrasing I just used. But you know what happened? I could see my ribs and the bones in chest. I had no butt. I couldn't lay on my side on the bed because my hip bones pressing into the mattress hurt. My estrogen levels dropped so much that I started having night sweats, just like I was going through menopause. I was exhausted all the time and passing out at 8pm on the couch. My hair started falling out. My periods disappeared. My triglycerides went up.
For me, now, that is TOO thin. I've managed to gain a healthy weight back and am now a size 6. I'm working on getting stronger. I still have that "last" five pounds I want to get off, but for me, I think I have to realize that I'll ALWAYS want to lose another 5, and I have to be careful.
bump! .. wow.. good you know and are aware of your mentality on wt and thinking now.. u look amazing and curvy and healthy in ur profile pic.. congrats! huuuuuuuge accomplishment from weighing 300 orig! thats freakin amazing to me0 -
bump! .. wow.. good you know and are aware of your mentality on wt and thinking now.. u look amazing and curvy and healthy in ur profile pic.. congrats! huuuuuuuge accomplishment from weighing 300 orig! thats freakin amazing to me
Thanks so much!!!0 -
Wait a minute---so it's perfectly acceptable to say "I don't want to be too fat!" but you can't say "I don't want to be too thin!" ?? That doesn't make any sense. You can be too thin just as easily as being too fat. Too thin is when you appear unhealthy and weak (sounds a lot like being too fat, eh?). Just because a person is fat does not mean their greatest desire is to weigh 95 lbs!!0
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I want to look like the chicks on star trek. what the crap happened to that figure anyway?
Girdles and bullet bras, or rather, what happened is the lack of girdles and bullet bras.0 -
Wait a minute---so it's perfectly acceptable to say "I don't want to be too fat!" but you can't say "I don't want to be too thin!" ?? That doesn't make any sense. You can be too thin just as easily as being too fat. Too thin is when you appear unhealthy and weak (sounds a lot like being too fat, eh?). Just because a person is fat does not mean their greatest desire is to weigh 95 lbs!!
Well, supposedly, if we aren't all striving to be at the lowest possible weight listing for our "ideal weight" for our height and frame or less we're all just lazy fat people.0 -
I still don't get why having "some weight" on you is a bad thing. If it is not threating your health, and it works for you. Also all weight is not the same. Just cause you have some weight does mean you have rolls0
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Wait a minute---so it's perfectly acceptable to say "I don't want to be too fat!" but you can't say "I don't want to be too thin!" ?? That doesn't make any sense. You can be too thin just as easily as being too fat. Too thin is when you appear unhealthy and weak (sounds a lot like being too fat, eh?). Just because a person is fat does not mean their greatest desire is to weigh 95 lbs!!
AMEN SISTA!0 -
What I would consider too thin.
I think both ladies are healthy and they both look great, I just like the first one better. I don't really have any explanation for it beyond preference. *shrug*
I can't view the second picture at work, but the lady on the top picture is too skinny in my opinion.
"The lady"?! THAT'S SHAKIRA.
Who the f** is Shakira? I doubt that she's an athlete.
She is a singer and she also dance a lot. She does awsome belly dance. SHe is actually very active.
Ahh...that explains it. No wonder I never heard of her. I'm not into belly dancing.
She's a well-known singer, too. I doubt you have never heard her songs.
I doubt that I have ever heard of her songs. Is she in a rock band? I mostly listen metal, hard rock, and classic rock. My favorite singer is Sully Erna from Godsmack. No belly dancing, but he does have a fine physique, definitely not too skinny.
ETA: I will ask my daughter if she has ever heard of her. My daughter is 15, so she keeps up on all the latest pop music.0 -
I still don't get why having "some weight" on you is a bad thing. If it is not threating your health, and it works for you. Also all weight is not the same. Just cause you have some weight does mean you have rolls
Exactly. Especially when that weight is mainly muscle. I like having muscle. Not just sleek toned muscle like a lot of women go for. I like having good sized quads and calves. I like having impressive biceps and triceps and even forearms. I think I look nice with a little "thickness" to me as long as that "thickness" is firm and strong.0 -
Wait a minute---so it's perfectly acceptable to say "I don't want to be too fat!" but you can't say "I don't want to be too thin!" ?? That doesn't make any sense. You can be too thin just as easily as being too fat. Too thin is when you appear unhealthy and weak (sounds a lot like being too fat, eh?). Just because a person is fat does not mean their greatest desire is to weigh 95 lbs!!
^This!0 -
I have been really overweight as well as "too skinny" (was 102 at 5'2" which for me resulted in bones sticking out all over). As someone with a serious interest in martial arts, I find my weight best just a slight tad heavier than what would be ideal because I do Aikido and like to have some weight in my hips and lower body because of the way everything comes from the center. It just feels better. Right now I am too fat and am trying to lose 25 pounds more to get to my ideal weight as an aikidoka. Spoken from experience on this end.
Think everyone is different, but when I was really thin you could knock me over with a feather which I do not like.
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I personally think overly thin people look gross. I'm not jealous or trying to be a jerk, but that's how I feel. I want to look fit and healthy and don't mind having an *kitten*.0
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For me I'm going through something like this now. People all around me are telling me I'm gorgeous and that I do not need to lose more weight. If it was just people who have known me all my life, I'd just chalk it up as they have never seen me this small before. However people who have never known me till recently, are saying things like "Why the hell would she be counting calories for?" I've also been told "I'd kill to have a body like yours." Of course these people have only seen me in clothes and never naked.
So in my mind I'm like "Maybe my mind hasn't caught up and I'm not seeing what they are seeing?" Yes I know I'm a lot thinner and I look pretty great and I feel great, but I do see more that I need to lose and tighten up. I fear that I'm going to go over board if my mind doesn't play catch up.
For me I just do not see myself ever to thin, I just can't see that I'll ever look like I want to, but yet I know I can, it's weird. It's my fat mind lol. I'm 5'3 134lbs and I'm ok with that but not satisfied. I don't wish to be thin I wish to be fit and healthy.0 -
OP HERE!
Sorry I wrote this in a half sleep and think I may have phrased it wrong here. I am not saying it is bad to say you don't want to be "too thin"
I just see a lot of people saying things like "OH I DON'T want to be under 140lbs because that is TOO THIN. And I think.. dang.. I'm just under 140 for the first time in a long time TODAY and I still want to be 9 lbs less because I think that looks perfect on me and is easily sustainable." I questing being "too" thin at 140 and if people say "too thin" to things that may not be "too" thin because they are "afraid" of failing if they dare to set the bar "that" low.0 -
OP HERE!
Sorry I wrote this in a half sleep and think I may have phrased it wrong here. I am not saying it is bad to say you don't want to be "too thin"
I just see a lot of people saying things like "OH I DON'T want to be under 140lbs because that is TOO THIN. And I think.. dang.. I'm just under 140 for the first time in a long time TODAY and I still want to be 9 lbs less because I think that looks perfect on me and is easily sustainable." I questing being "too" thin at 140 and if people say "too thin" to things that may not be "too" thin because they are "afraid" of failing if they dare to set the bar "that" low.
Lol that makes more sense. (or at least nicer sense ) I look bad under 140 but my sister who has the same basic height and build looks amazing (and very healthy) at 125. Just depends on the individual. 0 -
Yeah I see some people took it wrong and after reading my initial post I can see where the misunderstanding arose.. but yeah.. I feel like a lot of times I see people post a specific weight that is in the normal range or maybe even on the higher end of "normal" (because I mean.. come on.. whats normal right?) and call it too thin. And I think to myself.. how on earth is that too thin? and is it really too thin or are they making it out to be too thin for other reasons?0
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When i say this, I mean I'm pretty curvy, and i don't want to lose that. Not ever intending that Skinny isn't pretty or anything ! Thats just my opinion though ! :happy:0
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I wouldn't want to be 'too thin' but I have no idea what too thin would look like on me! I've never been below 11 stone in my adult life (154lbs) and at 5ft5 that's never even been near thin! I just prefer women's figures to have a bit if softness to them. I'm not a huge fan of bones being visible, but then I'm not s fan of really ripped figures either.
I tend to think of women who are too thin being the ones who wear kids clothes because they can't find adult clothes small enough. Although I know some women who are small in height also have that problem.
Anyway I'll never be too thin as I love food too much, do I don't need to worry about it!:laugh:0 -
I don't see there anything wrong with saying or feeling like you don't want to be too thin. At my lowest weight and highest weight, I felt like that. It's not because I was lazy or didn't want to "put in the work". I just don't find the thin look attractive. I want to still feel soft and like a woman, not hard and very muscular. My fiance likes a butt, hips and a soft look and so do I. I don't need all my muscles to show or to have 8 pack abs. My goal is a healthy BMI and Body Fat %, more energy, and be toned.
This being said, I'm sure that the women that do have low bf% and a lot of muscle definition as their goal are happy and look wonderful. Everyone's goals are different. What everyone finds attractive is different. It is not, however, an accurate assumption to say that people that say they don't want to be too thin just don't want to work to get there. They may just honestly not want that.0 -
I definitely don't want to be "too thin" or "skinny". However, I have no idea what I'll look at skinnier than 170 because I've always been overweight. I don't think it's an excuse, at least not for me. I really prefer the way women looked in the 50's with curves and softer lines than the "heroin chic" look of the 90's. I have a larger frame, I can already see my some of ribs at 183, so at 5'7 I don't think that my "ideal" weight of 143 is going to look good on me, I think I'll look like I need a cheeseburger. My best friend has a smaller/medium frame at 5'9 and weighs 150 and is perfectly in shape.0
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