"Natural Flavor" ingredient exposed?

EccentricDad

So what you mean to say is, you haven't made an opinion on the matter because the science gods haven't made up their opinion on the matter yet. What is YOUR opinion on the matter? Is coffee good or bad for you? All I'm asking is for you to have your own opinion, even if it isn't scientifically or politically correct.

I just recently read it was on man's opinion that it was a problem that airplanes didn't have windows that opened to let oxygen in, in the event of an emergency. Those damn science gods brought up things like air pressure and temperatures at high altitudes. They were total jerks. Why didn't they just let him have his opinion?

Seriously, this should sound ridiculously silly. And we know this, because we know the guy had no idea what he was talking about and if he had his way, it was not only wrong, but dangerous. This is what you're asking us to be okay with.

I just recently read that a woman's opinion was that a child who had bruises on his face was claiming they were from falling down the stairs. When the woman went to the authorities they found out that the child was not only abused but also was being molested. You can't always believe what you hear/read. You must make your own opinion, even if the known facts say otherwise. All I am asking is open your mind. If you can't do it, then that's fine, but don't judge those who do because we are happy the way we are.

WHAT?

Why do you think we have a 7 page long thread?!

We're all saying you can't believe everything you see, hear, or read and that you have to have an open mind. Are you seriously so obtuse to what everyone's been saying? Are you really not seeing what YOU are doing?

I didn't present this article for you to fight ME on it. If you don't agree with it, discuss the article. Not single handedly attack me for bringing the article to your attention. Damn me to hell for bringing the debate to the forums. Clearly you aren't any more equipped to handle social controversy than I am.

bunchesonothing

Clearly you aren't any more equipped to handle social controversy than I am.

This isn't social controversy.

DontStopB_Leakin

In before HSP thread gets nuked....again..


WEEEE!

DarthCeltic

In before HSP thread gets nuked....again..


WEEEE!

you were late to game..

rml_16

It's sad that the naysayers think you must be depriving yourself or eating nothing but gruel if you don't eat processed food. There is so much delicious food out there that doesn't require weird-tasting manufactured flavors to make it good.

Clearly, you missed the thread yesterday where he said any women who want to be skinny and eat a low-cal diet MUST give up flavorful food.

Did anyone ask me what I meant by that? No. Did anyone just take it literally and interpret it any way they wanted to? Yes. And here in this thread I am being criticized for doing the same exact thing when I hyper-vigilantly perceive attacks.

OK. This? Right here? This is funny.

"I said it, but that's not what I meant and how dare you think that I meant what I said!!!!"

Again, I have a limited vocabulary. Because I have a learning disability does that make me someone less than worthy to open my mouth in a public space? I am sorry but you are being rude at this point. Not everyone gets the same education and not everyone is capable of learning everything taught. This is just as bad as teasing my son who has a stuttering problem. Do I need to come with a warning label before I speak?

You have a learning disability now?

I need to learn how to do .gifs. Seriously. There's a perfect one for this response, but I have no idea how to find it.

EccentricDad

I'm just struggling with finding people who are like-minded that's all. It's a really lonely world when you think you are doing the right thing by thinking/judging for yourself instead of following what everyone else is thinking/judging. Sure I make my decisions through intuition and my personal experiences/feelings, but some of the best people in life have done the same and they moved mountains. I just want to find more people who think like me, that's all...

But if people don't think like you, it's possible that you're just wrong bro.

The other day I saw you ripping on a bodybuilding site that was posted for a study.
Today you're asking about why you're skinnyfat and can't improve the way your stomach looks..........so you're basically needing information from the people you took a piss on two days ago....

Have you ever considered that it's not about being "right" or about being "wrong"? I just want to be in control of what I believe. I digest things when I am ready to, not when people are ready to shove it down my throat. Two days ago, I wasn't ready for that info; but today I am.

Wow! You just clearly defined ignorance. You don't care whether it is right or wrong. You just want to accept it in your own time.

So... you post a thread and we are supposed to look at you inside your pretty contented bubble.

You are a powerful troll! You sucked me back in even after I said I was walking away from this thread. LOL!

And you are a powerful pedant who wants to cure everyone of their stupid. Can you cure me of my learning disability, my ADHD, my OCD, and my Anxiety Disorder too? When a person has a LD, they can't see logic like other people. That's why I have to make decisions for myself, because my logic wires just aren't connected the same as yours. I can't distinguish fact from fiction, hense the OP saying "fact, cherry picked fact, or fiction?". I am seriously asking you because I can't distinguish or discriminate it myself. But the fact I volunteered I agreed with it is becoming the heated debate and not the article itself.

EccentricDad

It's sad that the naysayers think you must be depriving yourself or eating nothing but gruel if you don't eat processed food. There is so much delicious food out there that doesn't require weird-tasting manufactured flavors to make it good.

Clearly, you missed the thread yesterday where he said any women who want to be skinny and eat a low-cal diet MUST give up flavorful food.

Did anyone ask me what I meant by that? No. Did anyone just take it literally and interpret it any way they wanted to? Yes. And here in this thread I am being criticized for doing the same exact thing when I hyper-vigilantly perceive attacks.

OK. This? Right here? This is funny.

"I said it, but that's not what I meant and how dare you think that I meant what I said!!!!"

Again, I have a limited vocabulary. Because I have a learning disability does that make me someone less than worthy to open my mouth in a public space? I am sorry but you are being rude at this point. Not everyone gets the same education and not everyone is capable of learning everything taught. This is just as bad as teasing my son who has a stuttering problem. Do I need to come with a warning label before I speak?

You have a learning disability now?

I need to learn how to do .gifs. Seriously. There's a perfect one for this response, but I have no idea how to find it.

Isn't that what adhd is? A learning disability? Because that's what I was told by a psychiatrist (a representative of science).

Goonygugu

LMAO!!!

but yes - it's way to easy to play the blame game instead of just getting up and doing something about it...

firstsip

So what you mean to say is, you haven't made an opinion on the matter because the science gods haven't made up their opinion on the matter yet. What is YOUR opinion on the matter? Is coffee good or bad for you? All I'm asking is for you to have your own opinion, even if it isn't scientifically or politically correct.

I just recently read it was on man's opinion that it was a problem that airplanes didn't have windows that opened to let oxygen in, in the event of an emergency. Those damn science gods brought up things like air pressure and temperatures at high altitudes. They were total jerks. Why didn't they just let him have his opinion?

Seriously, this should sound ridiculously silly. And we know this, because we know the guy had no idea what he was talking about and if he had his way, it was not only wrong, but dangerous. This is what you're asking us to be okay with.

I just recently read that a woman's opinion was that a child who had bruises on his face was claiming they were from falling down the stairs. When the woman went to the authorities they found out that the child was not only abused but also was being molested. You can't always believe what you hear/read. You must make your own opinion, even if the known facts say otherwise. All I am asking is open your mind. If you can't do it, then that's fine, but don't judge those who do because we are happy the way we are.

WHAT?

Why do you think we have a 7 page long thread?!

We're all saying you can't believe everything you see, hear, or read and that you have to have an open mind. Are you seriously so obtuse to what everyone's been saying? Are you really not seeing what YOU are doing?

I didn't present this article for you to fight ME on it. If you don't agree with it, discuss the article. Not single handedly attack me for bringing the article to your attention. Damn me to hell for bringing the debate to the forums. Clearly you aren't any more equipped to handle social controversy than I am.

EccentricDad

No I'm not going to nuke the thread. I'm doing great keeping things in check.

rml_16

You have a learning disability now?

I need to learn how to do .gifs. Seriously. There's a perfect one for this response, but I have no idea how to find it.

Isn't that what adhd is? A learning disability? Because that's what I was told by a psychiatrist (a representative of science).

I'm pretty sure ADHD does not prevent people from saying what they mean.

ZoeLifts

My favorite new gif...

_Wits_

I LOVE LAMP WITH A SIDE OF BACON!

EccentricDad

Clearly you aren't any more equipped to handle social controversy than I am.

This isn't social controversy.

Again, limited vocabulary. What would you call this? And why does it even matter? What was the "big picture" of what I said? Are you going to have a snide remark for every incorrect thing I say? Seriously? Are you perfect? Last I checked no one was.

EccentricDad

[I just recently read that a woman's opinion was that a child who had bruises on his face was claiming they were from falling down the stairs. When the woman went to the authorities they found out that the child was not only abused but also was being molested. You can't always believe what you hear/read. You must make your own opinion, even if the known facts say otherwise. All I am asking is open your mind. If you can't do it, then that's fine, but don't judge those who do because we are happy the way we are.

I'm sorry, ed, but facts and not opinions are what the authorities used to determine that the child was sexually and physically abused. Not opinion.

But it was her opinion that the boy's story wasn't fact despite it being presented as such.

MoreBean13

Bump to read when I'm not on my phone.

bunchesonothing

Clearly you aren't any more equipped to handle social controversy than I am.

This isn't social controversy.

Again, limited vocabulary. What would you call this? And why does it even matter? What was the "big picture" of what I said? Are you going to have a snide remark for every incorrect thing I say? Seriously? Are you perfect? Last I checked no one was.

None of what I've said has been snide.

LoraF83

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And you are a powerful pedant who wants to cure everyone of their stupid. Can you cure me of my learning disability, my ADHD, my OCD, and my Anxiety Disorder too? When a person has a LD, they can't see logic like other people. That's why I have to make decisions for myself, because my logic wires just aren't connected the same as yours. I can't distinguish fact from fiction, hense the OP saying "fact, cherry picked fact, or fiction?". I am seriously asking you because I can't distinguish or discriminate it myself. But the fact I volunteered I agreed with it is becoming the heated debate and not the article itself.
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But when everyone is saying "fiction" you are getting upset and saying these posters are attacking you. You can't have it both ways.

And ADHD is a real disorder - I have several family members who have it, including my brother. I watched him struggle with it for many years. But while he had difficulty with impulse control and memory, I can tell you that he has no difficulty distinguishing fact from fiction. And no difficulty understanding how to research and listen to other people's advice, opinions, and statements to determine his own conclusion.

escloflowneCHANGED

Clearly you aren't any more equipped to handle social controversy than I am.

This isn't social controversy.

Again, limited vocabulary. What would you call this? And why does it even matter? What was the "big picture" of what I said? Are you going to have a snide remark for every incorrect thing I say? Seriously? Are you perfect? Last I checked no one was.

Haha i love how you blame this on learning disabilities and limited vocabulary but judging from all your post so far, you come off as being very consistent. You use a lot of diverse words in your replies, I have a feeling it's all just a cover for the fact you are wrong and don't want to admit it.

bunchesonothing

But it was her opinion that the boy's story wasn't fact despite it being presented as such.

It was her opinion, based on facts. You can't just accuse parents of child abuse without facts. The nature of the bruises. Evidence of sexual abuse. Tests.

Mr_Bad_Example

Why do these threads exist?

EccentricDad

Clearly you aren't any more equipped to handle social controversy than I am.

This isn't social controversy.

Again, limited vocabulary. What would you call this? And why does it even matter? What was the "big picture" of what I said? Are you going to have a snide remark for every incorrect thing I say? Seriously? Are you perfect? Last I checked no one was.

None of what I've said has been snide.

So what are you gaining by pointing out all my grammar mistakes when I am openly admitting I am unable to properly communicate to others in a way that presents me as intelligent because I am in fact not?

Cliffslosinit

You start more *kitten* on these forums!
Why Mr Troll?

bunchesonothing

So what are you gaining by pointing out all my grammar mistakes when I am openly admitting I am unable to properly communicate to others in a way that presents me as intelligent because I am in fact not?

You are making claims. I am asking you to clarify and explain claims. You wanted debate. You can't have debate without being able to communicate and dissect. It's what it is all about.

And I didn't have a problem with your grammar, as it is pretty good. Better than most.

EccentricDad

Why do these threads exist?

Because the forums only exist for the lulz apparently.

I presented a fully potential article for intellectual thought and it turned into "tell the OP he's an idiot". I searched the entire thread and very few people indicated they read the article I posted and shared their opinion.

UsedToBeHusky

I'm just struggling with finding people who are like-minded that's all. It's a really lonely world when you think you are doing the right thing by thinking/judging for yourself instead of following what everyone else is thinking/judging. Sure I make my decisions through intuition and my personal experiences/feelings, but some of the best people in life have done the same and they moved mountains. I just want to find more people who think like me, that's all...

But if people don't think like you, it's possible that you're just wrong bro.

The other day I saw you ripping on a bodybuilding site that was posted for a study.
Today you're asking about why you're skinnyfat and can't improve the way your stomach looks..........so you're basically needing information from the people you took a piss on two days ago....

Have you ever considered that it's not about being "right" or about being "wrong"? I just want to be in control of what I believe. I digest things when I am ready to, not when people are ready to shove it down my throat. Two days ago, I wasn't ready for that info; but today I am.

Wow! You just clearly defined ignorance. You don't care whether it is right or wrong. You just want to accept it in your own time.

So... you post a thread and we are supposed to look at you inside your pretty contented bubble.

You are a powerful troll! You sucked me back in even after I said I was walking away from this thread. LOL!

And you are a powerful pedant who wants to cure everyone of their stupid. Can you cure me of my learning disability, my ADHD, my OCD, and my Anxiety Disorder too? When a person has a LD, they can't see logic like other people. That's why I have to make decisions for myself, because my logic wires just aren't connected the same as yours. I can't distinguish fact from fiction, hense the OP saying "fact, cherry picked fact, or fiction?". I am seriously asking you because I can't distinguish or discriminate it myself. But the fact I volunteered I agreed with it is becoming the heated debate and not the article itself.

Oh my... well I figured from the onset that you had those types of issues, but I figured bringing them up would derail the thread and really wouldn't be fair and could be a personal attack so I stayed away from those claims.

I'm not trying to cure you of your 'stupid' (as you put it). However, if you were truly wanting someone to help you distinguish what about the article is fact and what about it was fiction, then you would be a little more open-minded to the responses that you got in this thread. Instead of doing that, you accused people of attacking you.

Look, I completely respect your pursuit for truth, logic, and knowledge. But you have to put your general 'feelings' about subject matter aside and be open to new concepts if you hope to gain anything. You started this thread with good intentions, but then derailed it yourself by engaging debate about why you should not be skeptical about it.

I will dub you, unintentional troll. Now stop looking for someone attacking you and start reading these posts with a little objectivity.

WendyTerry420

Why do these threads exist?

To give me something to read when I'm bored at work? Maybe? It's all about me, right?

jg627

Giorgio always knows the right answer.

EccentricDad

So what are you gaining by pointing out all my grammar mistakes when I am openly admitting I am unable to properly communicate to others in a way that presents me as intelligent because I am in fact not?

You are making claims. I am asking you to clarify and explain claims. You wanted debate. You can't have debate without being able to communicate and dissect. It's what it is all about.

But I didn't want debate as much as I just wanted a pool of great ideas about the article I posted. No one is doing that. We went from the article, to how I'm an idiot for believing the article, to how I'm an idiot, to how I am a learning disabled retard, and now to "why is this thread even in existent".

justtodayjen333

bump