"Natural Flavor" ingredient exposed?

EccentricDad

http://www.skinnybliss.com/60-minutes-the-flavorists-addictive-flavors-of-the-artificial-flavor-industry-exposed.html

What is your thoughts on this? Accurate or agenda? Fact or cherry picked facts or just flat out fiction?

I am taking it as fact, explains why I (mostly clean eater) am not addicted to food and my wife (non-clean eater) still is.

greeneyedKat

I believe it! It explains why my husband is addicted to the junk food he eats. I try to eat real food as much as possible and he really doesn't care what he eats, as long as it tastes good .....very frustrating in this household!!!

ilovedeadlifts

in on eccentricdad thread.

dinosnopro

EvgeniZyntx

in on eccentricdad thread.

^^ This.

And it's journalism that sells --- it is nice to try to blame "someone" in a "swiss company" for overeating.
I gained weight because I ate real food, too much of it. Fois gras to wine to all sorts of sauces and breads and butters. A schnitzel or 200.

But hey, if you want to point a finger to someone else...

Edit: There is some truth in that type of journalism but it overstretches its position.

BrettPGH

Please explain how anything found in food is not natural. There's a reason they use those quotes when labeling them "artificial". It's a made up term used to manipulate people.

And we aren't addicted to food. We need it to survive. Kicking the habit is not recommended.

taylor5877

Ms_Steel

I don't know...I think a lot of food addiction has to do with the mental aspect.

PittShkr

Yanicka1

LOL

escloflowneCHANGED

DarthCeltic

This is why i NEED A CHEESEBURGER!!!!!

escloflowneCHANGED

This is why i NEED A CHEESEBURGER!!!!!

I WANT!!!!

ChrisRS87

I saw that report on 60 minutes, and its only common sense. They make food taste better.

When food tastes better people want to eat it more, the same reason someone would want coffee with heavy cream instead of skim. There is no "addiction", as you so ignorantly put it, but a lack of self control by the consumers, the fat, lazy, and obese populace.

wellbert

"natural flavor" usually means "something really gross that you wouldn't eat if you knew what it was, but it IS natural."

EccentricDad

Funny you post this picture because my wife is making me watch the documentary this guy is in. While it's fascinating to listen to someone else's perspective about how our ancestors did the fine cuts and made these huge pyramids, I think we are just insulting the intelligence of our ancestors by saying they were too stupid to figure out these things on their own and they needed aliens to help them. But quite ironic you are posting this right now and we are in the middle of watching it at the moment.

BrettPGH

"natural flavor" usually means "something really gross that you wouldn't eat if you knew what it was, but it IS natural."

And sometimes it means "We can call whatever we like natural because it's not like any of this came from Pluto."

DarthCeltic

Funny you post this picture because my wife is making me watch the documentary this guy is in. While it's fascinating to listen to someone else's perspective about how our ancestors did the fine cuts and made these huge pyramids, I think we are just insulting the intelligence of our ancestors by saying they were too stupid to figure out these things on their own and they needed aliens to help them. But quite ironic you are posting this right now and we are in the middle of watching it at the moment.

wait what?

:shakes head:

EccentricDad

There is no "addiction", as you so ignorantly put it, but a lack of self control by the consumers, the fat, lazy, and obese populace.

No name calling first of all (the ignorantly part was unnecessary).

And an "addiction" is by definition "Physically and mentally dependent on a particular substance, and unable to stop taking it without incurring adverse effects." so in short it means "to have no self control" so thank you for your two cents but maybe you need to stop looking for ways to attack me and just play along in this conversation without personal bias towards people who aren't as smart as you (clearly me).

worldgirl28

I believe it wholeheartedly. The salt, fat, and "flavors" in processed food are addicting and breaking that addiction is doubly difficult when the cheap, easy food is loaded with them. Eating clean is definitely more difficult to begin with but the feeling of not being loaded up with all that gross stuff is unbeatable.

EvgeniZyntx

"natural flavor" usually means "something really gross that you wouldn't eat if you knew what it was, but it IS natural."

And sometimes it means "We can call whatever we like natural because it's not like any of this came from Pluto."

Pluto is un-natural?
Like devil-spawn?

BrettPGH

And an "addiction" is by definition "Physically and mentally dependent on a particular substance, and unable to stop taking it without incurring adverse effects."

Now please explain how this would NOT apply to food for every single living person. Since you've overcome your food addiction.

DarthCeltic

And an "addiction" is by definition "Physically and mentally dependent on a particular substance, and unable to stop taking it without incurring adverse effects."

Now please explain how this would NOT apply to food for every single living person. Since you've overcome your food addiction.

Motrin and Water only!

EccentricDad

This is why i NEED A CHEESEBURGER!!!!!

I WANT!!!!

That would taste like the heavens, but that would probably be my entire day's worth of calories, sodium, saturated fat, and protein. The question really is, should we so blindly eat what "tastes good" just because our ego requires a certain level of personal satisfaction, personal pleasure, and stimulation; or should we be eating what our body needs and focus on the goal of making our machine (body) function like it's well oiled?

DarthCeltic

This is why i NEED A CHEESEBURGER!!!!!

I WANT!!!!

That would taste like the heavens, but that would probably be my entire day's worth of calories, sodium, saturated fat, and protein. The question really is, should we so blindly eat what "tastes good" just because our ego requires a certain level of personal satisfaction, personal pleasure, and stimulation; or should we be eating what our body needs and focus on the goal of making our machine (body) function like it's well oiled?

wait.. i only get one or the other? man..

:grumbles:

peuglow

Why can't it be both?

AsellusReborn

Meh. I am wary of things that are so quick to shift the blame away from the person eating. Food addiction does exist, as does drug addiction and other sorts of unhealthy vices, but I honestly think articles like this are just geared to make us feel better about how we got fat rather than based on facts. Making food more delicious so we like eating it does not mean creating a chemical dependency on it and until I see peer-reviewed studies showing chemical dependency on food, I take this more as sensationalism more than anything else. There is a difference between chemical dependency and wants/desire.

Food is your (general you, not you specifically OP) vice. When you're ready to own that, you can control it. When you aren't, you won't, and you will gain weight. Shifting the blame to someone else because you chose to go for seconds/thirds/fourths/that extra doughnut/that bag of chips/whatever isn't productive nor in the end is it really relevant.


Editing to clarify the chemical dependency on food bits: Obviously we're all chemically dependent on food, I meant to specify a distinction between clean food and food that has added "natural flavours" before anyone takes the obvious pot shot :P

sjohnny

So what do you eat? Gruel? Why avoid stuff that tastes good just because it tastes good? Why does doing something you enjoy have to equal addiction? I like food. I like really good food. I'm really good at cooking really good food that tastes good and I enjoy trying new foods and developing new ways to prepare them so they taste freakin awesome. It's got nothing to do with addiction or ego or any of this goofy crap you keep spouting.

Also, according to your definition of addiction I am addicted to water and oxygen.

Also also, someone posting a picture of a dude in a show you are currently watching is not "ironic". Coincidental maybe but not ironic.

BrettPGH

Why can't it be both?

What you mean like moderation? Eating well and finding ways to still enjoy your favorite meals?

Pfft! Like that could ever work!

sjohnny

Why can't it be both?

What you mean like moderation? Eating well and finding ways to still enjoy your favorite meals?

Pfft! Like that could ever work!

Well, maybe in Fantasy Land!

1960carol

2 chay!