Would I classify ____________ as water?
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if you log your coffee or diet coke as water, then i'm logging vodka as water.
only fair.
And....time for the obtuse 'funny' comments.
simply answering her question. don't understand what's "obtuse" about that.0 -
So you're saying that I can count taking out the garage as exercise now too?
No, carrying a garage is strength training <snare drum>0 -
Ohhhhh. Obtuse.if you log your coffee or diet coke as water, then i'm logging vodka as water.
only fair.
And....time for the obtuse 'funny' comments.
Gettin' all smart n' stuff.0 -
If one could only become adequately hydrated drinking only pure water, I'd be dead. There's been times in my life where soda was my only beverage.0
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I count drinks with calories under my food to track the nutrition. I track any plain water as water. If I have a frappucino I do not have one less glass of water in a day because of it. I still try to drink water all day regardless of whatever water I am getting from other beverages or foods.0
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water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.0 -
Presumably, if you put sauce on the chicken, it's no longer chicken?water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.0 -
water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.
Hydration has nothing to do with calorie counting, but thanks for playing along.0 -
I just ate two boxes of Raisinettes. Logged it as water.
i just drove back to work from my lunch break. logged it as water.0 -
if you log your coffee or diet coke as water, then i'm logging vodka as water.
only fair.
Count what you want. It's your diary. But science says the basis for your comparison is ridiculous.
The simple fact is, however, that coffee and diet coke do not contain enough caffeine to have a significant diuretic effect to offset the benefits of the water.
One 8 ounce cup of black coffee contains 8 ounces of water and approximately 100 grams of caffeine (anywhere between about 40-200 depending on brew and strength, but 100 is a good baseline number). You'd need to have about 500mg at least to have a measurable diuretic effect at all, and the effect is not terribly pronounced even at high doses.
In addition, if you're a regular coffee drinker, your body has already built a tolerance to its diuretic effect.
So you can literally meet your body's hydration needs by drinking nothing but regular black coffee, though you'd need to drink an extra 2-3 8 ounce glasses to offset the diuretic effect of the pretty massive dose of caffeine, and the other side effects of the caffeine wouldn't be fun.
Vodka has a MUCH higher percentage of straight alcohol than coffee has of caffeine, so anything over about 20 proof (10% alcohol) has a negligible hydrating effect, and anything over about 40 proof (20% alcohol) actually dehydrates you more than it hydrates you (the diuretic effect exceeds the amount of water you are taking in as part of the beverage).0 -
water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.
Hydration has nothing to do with calorie counting, but thanks for playing along.
you're missing the point.
logging water has everything to do with logging water. not logging something that isn't water.0 -
but you do understand the point of logging water, right?water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.
Hydration has nothing to do with calorie counting, but thanks for playing along.
you're missing the point.
logging water has everything to do with logging water. not logging something that isn't water.0 -
if you log your coffee or diet coke as water, then i'm logging vodka as water.
only fair.
And....time for the obtuse 'funny' comments.
I like to think of my type of humor as being acute. (But it still isn't right.)0 -
The whole reason for logging water is to make sure that your body is adequately hydrated. Your body doesn't care if it gets water in its purest form or not.water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.
Hydration has nothing to do with calorie counting, but thanks for playing along.
you're missing the point.
logging water has everything to do with logging water. not logging something that isn't water.0 -
vodka looks like water so i will log it alsoif you log your coffee or diet coke as water, then i'm logging vodka as water.
only fair.0 -
water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.
Very little of the stuff you consider "water" is pure water. Most of it contains small amounts of flouride, chlorine, iron, etc. Unless you are manufacturing it yourself using pure molecules of hydrogen and oxygen, it's got non-water stuff in it. Those small amounts of contaminants do not have any effect on the hydration properties of the water...
...and neither do other contaminants such as straining the water through coffee beans, adding sugar and cola syrup to it, etc.
Water is water is water, and you can add things to it and it doesn't magically change the water component of the fluid to something other than water.0 -
water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.
No, but you can count the chicken as both water and corn, too, since the chicken drank water and ate corn...0 -
I classify water as water. I know other things hold water, but it just doesn't seem right to classify anything else as water BUT water. Teas and Coffees are tracked as teas and coffees in my diary.0
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water is water is water.
if its not water, then why would you log it as water?
can i log a full rack of ribs as grilled chicken? they're both meat.
Hydration has nothing to do with calorie counting, but thanks for playing along.
you're missing the point.
logging water has everything to do with logging water. not logging something that isn't water.
Logging water has everything to do with making sure your body is receiving enough hydration to operate efficiently. Water does not have to be absolutely pure in order to have hydration benefits to the body.
If you choose to use the water counter as a pure exercise in measuring only pure water, fine. But that's not the only way to get proper hydration into your body, and someone who uses it to count milk, coffee, soda, etc are (as long as they are also counting any calories that come in their liquids) using it just as "properly" as you are.0 -
It depends what your reason for classifying it is.Who cares?
I think the point is that the people are trying to achieve proper hydration, which can be done without pure water. Hopefully said people are still logging the milk as food to count the calories, but they're wondering if they can get hydration from it as well. I don't think they're delusionally thinking that if they 'count' it as water it doesn't have calories.
^ this. Your body doesn't care if the water you take in is mixed with other things, it still uses the water for hydration. Just like it doesn't care if you eat protein mixed with carbs at the same time. It's pretty good at breaking down everything we eat and making good use of the individual components.
amen to this!.. I have asked this a few times to a couple doctors, yes, I can log milk, coffee, tea, juice and even soda as water.
What if you are not in a marathon just to see how many liters you drink everyday?, what if you just wanna hydrate yourself and make your skin looks better?... btw, my skin looks hella greeeat now!, no more make up!
and yes, ive been counting as water the list I wrote.
So if ppl wanna log it as water, they can.. if you dont cause you feel super duper amazing for drinking 5 gallons of pure water a day, then do it, to each their own, period.0 -
Beer is water. I won't take no for an answer.0
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Only thing I log as water is water or green tea (I drink it plain). If we recorded everything that has water to our water, we'd be having to find the water content in fruits and veggies and everything else.
I would also count flavor water as water too because it's hard for some people to adjust. Just be sure to add the calories of the flavoring if you do.0 -
Would I classify ___Patron_________ as water?0
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Well playedif you log your coffee or diet coke as water, then i'm logging vodka as water.
only fair.
And....time for the obtuse 'funny' comments.
I like to think of my type of humor as being acute. (But it still isn't right.)0 -
Wonder women is on MFP!! OMG she can take out the garage!! lol That sure is exercise if ever there was one lol
So you're saying that I can count taking out the garage as exercise now too?People can count whatever they want as water.
They can count cleaning or walking to the bathroom as exercise.
It's their body and their weight loss/fitness journey--they have full control over it.
However, it seems to be those same sorts of people who show back up in the forums whining about how they're not losing weight.
Yes on WW there are people who count doing dishes and taking out garbage as exercise. Personally I only count things I don't normally do on a daily basis or should say what I do now that does not include house hold daily chores as exercise. Walking, biking, if I was to dig up my entire yard or do massive amounts of yard work that I normally would not do etc.
And yes many on WW do log their tea as water but I only log water as water. I drink 2 cups of coffee per day black with 1 splenda and the rest of the day I only drink water. Always have always will. I don't like sweet drinks of any kind. If i want flavoring to my water I add a lemon wedge. I don't even like those no calorie powder things or fruit juices. Give me a big tall icy glass of water over a sweet drink any day.0 -
I just drank 32oz of Crystal Light. I don't understand why I have to pee so bad now...0
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I would log most liquids as water except those that contain caffine this dehydtares so for any one cup of coffee you should drink another 1/5 cup of water or non caffinated beverage.
If it is milk count the calories but also the fluid.
Oh of course alcohol does not count :drinker:0 -
I think it's a really individual thing. People make their own choices according to what their health goals are- some people might be trying to swap from diet drinks, for example.
I'm really bad at drinking. I don't recognise thirst, and a big part of this journey for me has been realising that half the time I'm not hungry, I'm thirsty.
Personally, I added an extra meal in, as 'drinks'. I log all drinks except water there. Tea, herbal tea, diet coke, alcohol..anything that passes my lips that's liquid. Then I count only water in the water section.
This way, if I haven't had any water all day, I can think, Oh, it's a really cold day and I had 5 herbal teas, and I can also see how many sneaky cals get in from alcohol, tea, coffee, starbucks etc!
HTH- My diary is open.0 -
Who cares?
I think the point is that the people are trying to achieve proper hydration, which can be done without pure water. Hopefully said people are still logging the milk as food to count the calories, but they're wondering if they can get hydration from it as well. I don't think they're delusionally thinking that if they 'count' it as water it doesn't have calories.
I guess I just didn't understand it was my mistake for not actually reading the thread but just seeing a lot trend. I didn't realize they were counting it towards hydration, I just thought they meant as water PERIOD. Like I said dummy question on my part as a result of me being a lazy *kitten* 0 -
I would log most liquids as water except those that contain caffine this dehydtares so for any one cup of coffee you should drink another 1/5 cup of water or non caffinated beverage.
If it is milk count the calories but also the fluid.
Oh of course alcohol does not count :drinker:
I log EVERYTHING that is not water. I don't log water just because ik how much I drink But I log milk, oj, v8 juice....everything 0
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