is it worth the money to buy shakeology
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And for all those ingredients that you listed, how many are in efficacious dosages that have shown benefits to humans?
The original formula of ShakeO contained synthetic ingredients as well, the new label does a better job at hiding it though, but I'd guess it still does.
I don't know, but if you do, I'd love to hear the answer! it works for me, i'm seeing those benefits, and that's all i really care about! but listen, think logically for a second. if a prop blend is 13g worth of ingredients (13,000 mg), and there are 15 ingredients - maybe they're not evenly portioned out, but at the very least SOME of those ingredients must be in efficacious dosages right? Using logic? And guaranteed whichever ingredients those are, you don't get them in a typical western diet! 13 grams of antioxidants are - oh i don't know - probably giving your body the benefits! (for reference, the typical serving of creatine is 5 grams. does that work?)
as for synthetic ingredients? name them.0 -
And for all those ingredients that you listed, how many are in efficacious dosages that have shown benefits to humans?
The original formula of ShakeO contained synthetic ingredients as well, the new label does a better job at hiding it though, but I'd guess it still does.
Didn't you post some unanswered questions you posed to Beachbody a few months ago? I remember that thread (though don't have time to look for it) and it was very interesting.0 -
I the past few years I've lost 20 pounds, am down to ~10% body fat, only get sick about once a year (and it's mild at that), cut down drastically on insulin requirements (Type 1 DM), brought my blood pressure down to 110s/60s, got to a resting heart rate in the 40s, I feel fantastic, have great endurance, poop like clockwork and other than a nagging lateral epicondylitis I don't get injuries.
My secret? Exercising daily, eating the proper diet with the right amount and balance of calories and sleeping well. And, if you can believe it, this is all without Shakeology!
I find it hard to believe I would have any further benefit from the pricey Beachbody protein shake. I tried it, it was not tasty and I noted no change in the above.
You must be a ................................ WIZARD!0 -
I the past few years I've lost 20 pounds, am down to ~10% body fat, only get sick about once a year (and it's mild at that), cut down drastically on insulin requirements (Type 1 DM), brought my blood pressure down to 110s/60s, got to a resting heart rate in the 40s, I feel fantastic, have great endurance, poop like clockwork and other than a nagging lateral epicondylitis I don't get injuries.
My secret? Exercising daily, eating the proper diet with the right amount and balance of calories and sleeping well. And, if you can believe it, this is all without Shakeology!
I find it hard to believe I would have any further benefit from the pricey Beachbody protein shake. I tried it, it was not tasty and I noted no change in the above.
of course you don't NEED shakeology. no one needs ANY supplementation if they can eat clean 100% of the time. unfortunately that's literally impossible because GMOs, hormones, and antibiotics in today's food supply. The nutritional value in produce has dropped drastically. the nutritional value in meat has dropped drastically.
did you know that grass fed beef has an Omega 3/6 ratio of 2:1? That's the same ratio as fish. hormone and corn-fed beef? the ratio is reversed with twice as many Omega 6's as 3's. (6s are bad). We've completely destroyed the nutritional value of our food supply, so you can try to eat healthy, but like i said, without some form of supplementation it's virtually impossible these days. sad really.
Also you lost the weight over years - which don't get me wrong - is AWESOME! Congrats! Folks using shakeology and changing their diet have been able to lose that much in a month or two. It all depends on your values, goals, and how quickly you want to lose the weight.0 -
And for all those ingredients that you listed, how many are in efficacious dosages that have shown benefits to humans?
The original formula of ShakeO contained synthetic ingredients as well, the new label does a better job at hiding it though, but I'd guess it still does.
I don't know,
That'd be the point. So, that makes everything else you stated anecdotal. As in not proven, just observed. Which makes everything you've said just your opinion. An opinion that is colored by the fact that you sell the stuff. Comprede??0 -
That'd be the point. So, that makes everything else you stated anecdotal. As in not proven, just observed. Which makes everything you've said just your opinion. An opinion that is colored by the fact that you sell the stuff. Comprede??
not a single supplement on the market has been proven to do ANYTHING. they're not regulated. what supplements do you take? because you take them based on anecdotal evidence.0 -
I the past few years I've lost 20 pounds, am down to ~10% body fat, only get sick about once a year (and it's mild at that), cut down drastically on insulin requirements (Type 1 DM), brought my blood pressure down to 110s/60s, got to a resting heart rate in the 40s, I feel fantastic, have great endurance, poop like clockwork and other than a nagging lateral epicondylitis I don't get injuries.
My secret? Exercising daily, eating the proper diet with the right amount and balance of calories and sleeping well. And, if you can believe it, this is all without Shakeology!
I find it hard to believe I would have any further benefit from the pricey Beachbody protein shake. I tried it, it was not tasty and I noted no change in the above.
of course you don't NEED shakeology. no one needs ANY supplementation if they can eat clean 100% of the time. unfortunately that's literally impossible because GMOs, hormones, and antibiotics in today's food supply. The nutritional value in produce has dropped drastically. the nutritional value in meat has dropped drastically.
did you know that grass fed beef has an Omega 3/6 ratio of 2:1? That's the same ratio as fish. hormone and corn-fed beef? the ratio is reversed with twice as many Omega 6's as 3's. (6s are bad). We've completely destroyed the nutritional value of our food supply, so you can try to eat healthy, but like i said, without some form of supplementation it's virtually impossible these days. sad really.
Also you lost the weight over years - which don't get me wrong - is AWESOME! Congrats! Folks using shakeology and changing their diet have been able to lose that much in a month or two. It all depends on your values, goals, and how quickly you want to lose the weight.
You keep mentioning eating clean. How would you define that? And how would Shakeology, but definition a processed food, be eating clean?0 -
And for all those ingredients that you listed, how many are in efficacious dosages that have shown benefits to humans?
The original formula of ShakeO contained synthetic ingredients as well, the new label does a better job at hiding it though, but I'd guess it still does.
I don't know, but if you do, I'd love to hear the answer! it works for me, i'm seeing those benefits, and that's all i really care about! but listen, think logically for a second. if a prop blend is 13g worth of ingredients (13,000 mg), and there are 15 ingredients - maybe they're not evenly portioned out, but at the very least SOME of those ingredients must be in efficacious dosages right? Using logic? And guaranteed whichever ingredients those are, you don't get them in a typical western diet! 13 grams of antioxidants are - oh i don't know - probably giving your body the benefits! (for reference, the typical serving of creatine is 5 grams. does that work?)
as for synthetic ingredients? name them.
Someone has an agenda....
I'm sorry, but again, the macros are pretty poor compared to other protein powders.
Not to mention it is extremely overpriced. I don't give a rats *kitten* about whatever weak prop blends they have... As stated earlier 170 cals for 16 grams protein? Why would ANYONE pick shakeology over another protein powder when given the option to compare labels? Unless someone who makes ridiculous claims about it curing cancer (yes I have seen this by another coach), stopping hair loss, weight loss, more snake oil claims, etc.
Besides, I have a hard time trusting ANYTHING someone says when they WORK for the company and SELL that product.
Oh, and shakeology tastes chalky and shi*ty.
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And for all those ingredients that you listed, how many are in efficacious dosages that have shown benefits to humans?
The original formula of ShakeO contained synthetic ingredients as well, the new label does a better job at hiding it though, but I'd guess it still does.
I don't know, but if you do, I'd love to hear the answer! it works for me, i'm seeing those benefits, and that's all i really care about! but listen, think logically for a second. if a prop blend is 13g worth of ingredients (13,000 mg), and there are 15 ingredients - maybe they're not evenly portioned out, but at the very least SOME of those ingredients must be in efficacious dosages right? Using logic? And guaranteed whichever ingredients those are, you don't get them in a typical western diet! 13 grams of antioxidants are - oh i don't know - probably giving your body the benefits! (for reference, the typical serving of creatine is 5 grams. does that work?)
as for synthetic ingredients? name them.
This is something I posted before
the latest blog posting on Yacon (http://www.shakeology.com/web/shakeology/the-blog). The studies that were linked to had subjects consume Yacon syrup (not powder like ShakeO) in dosages ranging from .14-.29g per/kg of bodyweight in one study to 20g a day in another study, yet the entire prop blend that contains Yacon is only 1.15g. So if a person weighed 18lbs and the entire blend was Yacon, maybe it might be of some benefit. OR it's much more likely that it's severely underdosed.
Yacon syrup: beneficial effects on obesity and insulin resistance in humans. Clin Nutr. 2009 Apr;28(2):182-7. Epub 2009 Feb 28.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19254816
"We used two doses of yacon syrup, 0.29 g and 0.14 g fructooligosaccharides/kg/day"
Effect of Yacon (Smallanthus sonchifolius) on Colonic Transit Time in Healthy Volunteers
Digestion 2008;78:30-33
http://content.karger.com/produktedb/produkte.asp?typ=fulltext&file=000155214
"in a dose of 20 g daily"
cyanocobalamin is synthetic oh noes!0 -
That'd be the point. So, that makes everything else you stated anecdotal. As in not proven, just observed. Which makes everything you've said just your opinion. An opinion that is colored by the fact that you sell the stuff. Comprede??
not a single supplement on the market has been proven to do ANYTHING. they're not regulated. what supplements do you take? because you take them based on anecdotal evidence.
Check your facts bro.0 -
That'd be the point. So, that makes everything else you stated anecdotal. As in not proven, just observed. Which makes everything you've said just your opinion. An opinion that is colored by the fact that you sell the stuff. Comprede??
not a single supplement on the market has been proven to do ANYTHING. they're not regulated. what supplements do you take? because you take them based on anecdotal evidence.
Other than a protein powder, none. The benefit of adequate protein is proven. So your argument is based on a logical fallacy. Just like your eating clean one and the one from the other "coach" about starbucks and buying shakes at the gym.0 -
out of curiosity, why do you folks say it's not worth it? i drink shakeology every day and absolutely love it. it's $4/shake... how much is your startbucks frappuccino? Go to the gym and get a shake there, what's it run you? 4? 5? 6?
Most of us make our own shakes at home $25 for 2lbs of why which makes like 25-30 shakes, frozen fruit (cheaper than fresh), water....so at most these cost $2 each
And chances are if you are watching what you are eating, why the F are you getting frappuccinos from Starbucks???!!!??0 -
I the past few years I've lost 20 pounds, am down to ~10% body fat, only get sick about once a year (and it's mild at that), cut down drastically on insulin requirements (Type 1 DM), brought my blood pressure down to 110s/60s, got to a resting heart rate in the 40s, I feel fantastic, have great endurance, poop like clockwork and other than a nagging lateral epicondylitis I don't get injuries.
My secret? Exercising daily, eating the proper diet with the right amount and balance of calories and sleeping well. And, if you can believe it, this is all without Shakeology!
I find it hard to believe I would have any further benefit from the pricey Beachbody protein shake. I tried it, it was not tasty and I noted no change in the above.
of course you don't NEED shakeology. no one needs ANY supplementation if they can eat clean 100% of the time. unfortunately that's literally impossible because GMOs, hormones, and antibiotics in today's food supply. The nutritional value in produce has dropped drastically. the nutritional value in meat has dropped drastically.
did you know that grass fed beef has an Omega 3/6 ratio of 2:1? That's the same ratio as fish. hormone and corn-fed beef? the ratio is reversed with twice as many Omega 6's as 3's. (6s are bad). We've completely destroyed the nutritional value of our food supply, so you can try to eat healthy, but like i said, without some form of supplementation it's virtually impossible these days. sad really.
Also you lost the weight over years - which don't get me wrong - is AWESOME! Congrats! Folks using shakeology and changing their diet have been able to lose that much in a month or two. It all depends on your values, goals, and how quickly you want to lose the weight.
This is the not salesy sales pitch....haha.0 -
1) Shakeology is not a protein powder, it's a meal replacement. BIG. DIFFERENCE.
2) I'm not gonna convince you guys that shakeology is worth it, because it's not to you. that's your opinion and it's valid. i personally enjoy it and feel that i get the benefits. that's my opinion, and it's also valid. why are we still arguing about this? can we move on?0 -
1) Shakeology is not a protein powder, it's a meal replacement. BIG. DIFFERENCE.
2) I'm not gonna convince you guys that shakeology is worth it, because it's not to you. that's your opinion and it's valid. i personally enjoy it and feel that i get the benefits. that's my opinion, and it's also valid. why are we still arguing about this? can we move on?
I came to this thread open to the idea, but I think the reason you're getting flamed is because you're coming off salesy and it chummed the water for all the sharks. It's like a bully picking on the weakest kid...you opened yourself up and everyone jumped on.
You have to admit when you tell a guy that has been successful in his weight loss that "you did it in years, but with shakeology people are doing the same thing in a couple of months. Or how this meal replacement is important because of GMOs and our food being nutrtitionally out of whack, it sounds kind of salesy, doesn't it? I get it...you're not a salesman. I say that because professional sales people practice selling to the point that it doesn't sound like what you're doing here.
BTW, I'm not trying to "pile on", I'm just letting you know why this thread took the turn it did.0 -
did you know that grass fed beef has an Omega 3/6 ratio of 2:1? That's the same ratio as fish. hormone and corn-fed beef? the ratio is reversed with twice as many Omega 6's as 3's. (6s are bad). We've completely destroyed the nutritional value of our food supply, so you can try to eat healthy, but like i said, without some form of supplementation it's virtually impossible these days. sad really.
Omega 6 FAs are not bad in the proper amounts. They are essential fatty acids.Also you lost the weight over years - which don't get me wrong - is AWESOME! Congrats! Folks using shakeology and changing their diet have been able to lose that much in a month or two. It all depends on your values, goals, and how quickly you want to lose the weight.
Shakeology can lead to a 20# weight loss in one month, or 5 pounds a week? Is this lost as water weight, muscle loss or fat loss, or all of the above? If so, do studies show that this weight is kept off? Is this touted as being a healthy form of weight reduction? After that month, do the participants show similar results with BP, RHR, BF% et al?0 -
1) Shakeology is not a protein powder, it's a meal replacement. BIG. DIFFERENCE.
No need to replace any meals. Just eat real food. It's not as hard as your GMO and clean food scare tactics make it. Lot's of people do it just fine.0 -
do the research on GMOs and you'll be as scared of them as I am. talk to any nutrition specialist. there's a reason Monsanto REFUSES to do research into them.0
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Shakeology can lead to a 20# weight loss in one month, or 5 pounds a week? Is this lost as water weight, muscle loss or fat loss, or all of the above? If so, do studies show that this weight is kept off? Is this touted as being a healthy form of weight reduction? After that month, do the participants show similar results with BP, RHR, BF% et al?
Well if you replace whole meals with a 160 calorie shake, I guess you would lose weight fast wouldn't you? If that was your goal, you could do the same thing with severe calorie restriction without proprietary $4 shakes couldn't you? Is that a smart health choice? And would any of that loss be lean mass if losing at that quick a rate?0 -
.do the research on GMOs and you'll be as scared of them as I am. talk to any nutrition specialist. there's a reason Monsanto REFUSES to do research into them.
Where does it say your only 2 choices are GMO's or Shakeology? I eat a GMO free diet without Shakeology. What's up with the fear mongering?0 -
I came to this thread open to the idea, but I think the reason you're getting flamed is because you're coming off salesy and it chummed the water for all the sharks. It's like a bully picking on the weakest kid...you opened yourself up and everyone jumped on.
You have to admit when you tell a guy that has been successful in his weight loss that "you did it in years, but with shakeology people are doing the same thing in a couple of months. Or how this meal replacement is important because of GMOs and our food being nutrtitionally out of whack, it sounds kind of salesy, doesn't it? I get it...you're not a salesman. I say that because professional sales people practice selling to the point that it doesn't sound like what you're doing here.
BTW, I'm not trying to "pile on", I'm just letting you know why this thread took the turn it did.
haha i totally get what you're saying. but i'll take it as a compliment because i don't WANT to be a salesman. I'm bad at it. i don't like it. my only agenda is to tell people why I use it and let them decide if they wanna try it.
guys, i'm not gonna fight anymore because it's exhausting. if you want to see the results, if you want the info, do the research. it's all out there. if you decide the research doesn't add up, don't try it. if you're interested in seeing if it does work, try it. boom. it's that simple.0 -
.do the research on GMOs and you'll be as scared of them as I am. talk to any nutrition specialist. there's a reason Monsanto REFUSES to do research into them.
Where does it say your only 2 choices are GMO's or Shakeology? I eat a GMO free diet without Shakeology. What's up with the fear mongering?
I suspect all of us eat more GMOs than we realize.
I'm not quite ready for my tinfoil hat yet, but I'm getting there.0 -
.do the research on GMOs and you'll be as scared of them as I am. talk to any nutrition specialist. there's a reason Monsanto REFUSES to do research into them.
Where does it say your only 2 choices are GMO's or Shakeology? I eat a GMO free diet without Shakeology. What's up with the fear mongering?
I suspect all of us eat more GMOs than we realize.
I'm not quite ready for my tinfoil hat yet, but I'm getting there.
Like the old line from Caddy Shack "looks good on you though!"0 -
prove to me it isn't. see, we're both hypothesizing with no info to back it up, except for the fact that i don't get sick and my digestion and energy levels are awesome.
Yes it's worth it. But to be honest with you, you are asking a very biased crowd here on MFP. The majority of MFP'ers will be happy to point you to Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, super high protein fad diets, high carb diets, Engine 2 diet and many more that they have never used and have barely read about. But if you mention Shakeology, Advocare or any other item of the sort you will get the trolls coming out saying it's not worth it. Even the ones that try it, and then say it didn't do anything after 1 week of use....well let's be honest. Using anything for 1 week or even 1 month isn't going to make you look like Adonis or give you so much energy you'll be jumping/bouncing off the walls. If someone told you that Shakeology will give you loads of energy just with the first use.....WRONG. If someone told you that you will drop 30 pounds in one month using Shakeology......WRONG. Shakeology is much more than just a "protein shake" (as many seem to have labeled in this thread). It helps build your immune system thru natural ingredients and after longer use of the product and continued exercise, YES you will start to get more energy. On the other hand, those that have used it will be biased to say that yes it's worth it. Guess what, I use it and have for over a year. I completed 2 round of P90X before using any Beachbody supplements. I was still sluggish/groggy during the day and had tons of cravings all the time. I wasn't eating nearly as clean as I would have liked to. So I cleaned up my nutrition. Still little change in how I felt overall. So on my 3rd round of P90X I ordered Shakeology and P90X R&R. Took about a month or so (yes I continued on with P90X and cleaning up my nutrition) and my cravings started to go away and were finally gone. I had also hit a weight loss plateau at 192 pounds. Adding in Shakeology once a day broke that plateau. How do I know? Because I tried breaking the plateau for 2 months using exercise and nutrition alone. Didn't work for me. Shakeology did.
So the honest response, if someone has approached you about using it. You've got nothing to lose except weight/body fat for trying it, though I will say it's best that you present the ingredient list to your doctor if you have any history or family history of different medical conditions. Oh, NOT just for Shakeology, but for ANY supplement you purchase and use, take the ingredient list to your doctor or nutritionist and make sure it isn't gonna hurt you. If you don't like it or it doesn't work. Don't use it. It's a tool to help you reach your goal.
And by the sounds of it, you need to get some skin in the game to stick with your weight loss goals. The majority of folks I see go the super cheap or free route......take off some weight and then gain it back. Because they don't have anything invested in getting to their goals.
"And by the sounds of it, you need to get some skin in the game to stick with your weight loss goals. The majority of folks I see go the super cheap or free route......take off some weight and then gain it back. Because they don't have anything invested in getting to their goals."
ARE YOU FOR REAL MAYBE WE ARE POOR/BROKE AND DON'T HAVE OUR MOMMY'S AND DADDY'S TO BUY US THINGS LIKE OVER $100 IN SHAKES AND GYM MEMBERSHIPS
I HAVE MY HEALTH AND MY FUTURE INVESTED AND THAT IS WAY BETTER THEN STUPID SHAKES!0 -
Can I also mention that if you go into Shakeology with the thought that THIS IS A MEAL REPLACEMENT SHAKE (big difference I hear), that you are going to lose weight simply by the fact that you are replacing a possible greasy cheeseburger and fries with a 170 calorie shake? It creates a deficit....
Secondly, If you get into the habit of completely replacing meals with shakes I have to wonder if it is something meant to be continued forever. If not, would you not immediately gain weight back when you stop drinking 170 calories and replacing it with 400-500 calories (on the low end) of a meal?
Lastly, how does drinking shakeology to create a deficit by replacing a meal/meals teach you to make better eating habits for the long run? Is this not one of those "quick fixes" where you create a deficit for a couple months by drinking "shakes" instead of eating food, lose a bunch of weight, and then put it back on because you learned NOTHING about changing your actual eating habits?
I personally would never replace an entire meal with a 170 calorie shake. I could eat 1 egg, 6 egg whites and some salt and pepper for 168 calories and 24 grams protein. Or hell, you could just change your eating habits and make whatever meals fit into your macros/calorie goal.0 -
Word!!Can I also mention that if you go into Shakeology with the thought that THIS IS A MEAL REPLACEMENT SHAKE (big difference I hear), that you are going to lose weight simply by the fact that you are replacing a possible greasy cheeseburger and fries with a 170 calorie shake? It creates a deficit....
Secondly, If you get into the habit of completely replacing meals with shakes I have to wonder if it is something meant to be continued forever. If not, would you not immediately gain weight back when you stop drinking 170 calories and replacing it with 400-500 calories (on the low end) of a meal?
Lastly, how does drinking shakeology to create a deficit by replacing a meal/meals teach you to make better eating habits for the long run? Is this not one of those "quick fixes" where you create a deficit for a couple months by drinking "shakes" instead of eating food, lose a bunch of weight, and then put it back on because you learned NOTHING about changing your actual eating habits?
I personally would never replace an entire meal with a 170 calorie shake. I could eat 1 egg, 6 egg whites and some salt and pepper for 168 calories and 24 grams protein. Or hell, you could just change your eating habits and make whatever meals fit into your macros/calorie goal.0 -
Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but these types of products just don't seem as popular over here. I just don't understand what is wrong with eating real food? I can understand using protein shakes when exercising but most people who use those still eat proper food.
An I missing something? Because when I hear about products like this all I can think is they are a con. Sure people lose weight in them because they are so low calorie, but who is honestly going to stick to them for life? :huh:0 -
Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but these types of products just don't seem as popular over here. I just don't understand what is wrong with eating real food? I can understand using protein shakes when exercising but most people who use those still eat proper food.
An I missing something? Because when I hear about products like this all I can think is they are a con. Sure people lose weight in them because they are so low calorie, but who is honestly going to stick to them for life? :huh:
Hey, Hey , Hey! Far too much logic and common sense in this post!! lol0 -
Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but these types of products just don't seem as popular over here. I just don't understand what is wrong with eating real food? I can understand using protein shakes when exercising but most people who use those still eat proper food.
An I missing something? Because when I hear about products like this all I can think is they are a con. Sure people lose weight in them because they are so low calorie, but who is honestly going to stick to them for life? :huh:
Hey, Hey , Hey! Far too much logic and common sense in this post!! lol
It's true.
The MFP forums are no place for either of those.0 -
Apologies, I don't know what I was thinking! :bigsmile:0
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