Paleo Diet
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Holy crap this is a lot of info for me to process. I am not looking for something super restrictive & I LOVE my carbs. I just not sure how to change my diet to achieve results. I know it needs to change and keep hearing about this diet. Thank you everyone for all the information.
In my opinion I think you should just get used to eating at a calorie deficit however that feels comfortable to you and eating whatever you would like to eat, rather than what you think you should eat.
You can then experiment with adding and taking things out of your diet to see how that makes you feel and how your body reacts.
Obviously if you feel comfortable with a diet high in lean meat, fruit and veg right off the bat then do that but it's not an absolute requirement.
Dieting does not have to equate with punishing yourself if you catch my drift.
Yeah sounds like it may not be for you if you love your carbs, I am not a huge carb fan so it work for me
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Holy crap this is a lot of info for me to process. I am not looking for something super restrictive & I LOVE my carbs. I just not sure how to change my diet to achieve results. I know it needs to change and keep hearing about this diet. Thank you everyone for all the information.
Read this site: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/
It is evidence based advice from the experts in nutrition. Eating healthy is really easy and does need to be super restrictive. You just need to make simple changes like less added sugar, whole grains instead of white, lots of veggies, more unsaturated fat than saturated, lean meats, fish and poultry. No need for gimics if you eat smart.0 -
but it's undeniable (for example) that grains contain defence mechanisms, like phytates, which harm human health. They cause nutrient absorption issues and are just nasty.
That's statement is actually very deniable and easily disproved by the shear number of healthy people who eat grains.0 -
That's statement is actually very deniable and easily disproved by the shear number of healthy people who eat grains.
I don't consider that statement "denied" in any way by your comments.
Grains contain phytates. Phytates cause nutrient absorption issues. Unless you and the "shear number of healthy people" are monitoring the bio-availability of nutrients to your body at all times (you're not), you can't just dismiss the fact that phytate containing grains cause nutrient absorption issues with reference to people being healthy. Without grains, I'd probably say that people who are already healthy could be healthier.0 -
Well, yes... The way that a lot of people eat these days, I would say insulin is a problem. Chronically high insulin causes water and salt retention which drives hypertension. Triglycerides, which are strongly associated with heart disease, are elevated on high-carbohydrate eating (and this is due to carbohydrates providing the glycerol to make triglycerides so that insulin can "fix" then into the fat cells). Insulin itself and the accompanying ups-and-downs of blood sugar are associated with the whole spectrum of "diseases of modern civilization", including heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc. It has its positive functions, but not in excess.
To blame insulin specifically is silly. The issue is overeating/inactivity generally.0 -
Haters gonna hate0
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fruits and vegetables are not zero carbs0
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That's statement is actually very deniable and easily disproved by the shear number of healthy people who eat grains.
I don't consider that statement "denied" in any way by your comments.
Grains contain phytates. Phytates cause nutrient absorption issues. Unless you and the "shear number of healthy people" are monitoring the bio-availability of nutrients to your body at all times (you're not), you can't just dismiss the fact that phytate containing grains cause nutrient absorption issues with reference to people being healthy. Without grains, I'd probably say that people who are already healthy could be healthier.
Your statement was "which harm human health". There are millions, possibly billions of people who eat whole grains regularly whose health has not been harmed, therefore the statement is false.
It is not necessary to monitor the bio-availability of nutrients to your body at all times to know if you have a nutrient deficiency.
Healthy mean free of disease, ailment or injury. If one is free of these things, how would one become more free of them?0 -
Like anything else, do your own research and do what is best for you. Obviously some people here are very against this way of eating. For me, I have never felt better.0
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Just take a trip to pubmed, there are a LOT of studies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed0 -
Like anything else, do your own research and do what is best for you. Obviously some people here are very against this way of eating. For me, I have never felt better.
Are there posts against that way of eating? I've seen posts that say some of the philosophies are nonsense and it's not necessary to eat that way, but I don't recall anyone saying they were against anyone eating Paleo.0 -
To completely throw a wrench in things:
http://www-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov.ezproxyhost.library.tmc.edu/pubmed/20956317
"European Paleolithic subsistence is assumed to have been largely based on animal protein and fat, whereas evidence for plant consumption is rare. We present evidence of starch grains from various wild plants on the surfaces of grinding tools at the sites of Bilancino II (Italy), Kostenki 16-Uglyanka (Russia), and Pavlov VI (Czech Republic). The samples originate from a variety of geographical and environmental contexts, ranging from northeastern Europe to the central Mediterranean, and dated to the Mid-Upper Paleolithic (Gravettian and Gorodtsovian). The three sites suggest that vegetal food processing, and possibly the production of flour, was a common practice, widespread across Europe from at least ~30,000 y ago. It is likely that high energy content plant foods were available and were used as components of the food economy of these mobile hunter-gatherers."
OP, I agree that if you are struggling, you might need to change up your diet, but the paleo might be too extreme for you. I mentioned to my doctor that I was contemplating it. She thought it was too restrictive to last (yes, I know people have been on it for years and years), and she recommended the GI diet, which looks at glycemic load. I'm not sure what I'm going to do right now, but I have limited my carb (well, non-veggie carb) intake, and I'm in the middle of a six week challenge where I'm not going to buy anything carb based from the grocery store.
You have to find things that work for you. I have been embracing some of the paleo principles, but it could be more accurately described as a "whole food" diet. I'm really trying to limit things that I eat that come out of bags, boxes, etc. I also have slightly elevated blood pressure, so I've been trying to limit my sodium intake. So much easier when you cut out the processed junk. I see a lot of "fake foods" used to replace the treats that people enjoy. I'd rather eat "clean" 80-90% of the time and splurge on the real thing as opposed to filling my body with chemicals all day in a poor imitation of the food I like.0 -
Looking into changing up my diet does anyone know about this paleo diet? I am concerned about not getting the proper nutrition and need some advise.
You can get nutrition by eating a paleo diet. The downside of paleo is that it cuts out way too many yummy, nutritious foods. You can get your nutrition from pretty much whatever foods you want. I find it best to eat things you enjoy. It helps with sanity/happiness.
I find that I'm eating way more yummy, nutritious foods on Paleo. And so are others... prepare to drool: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/691701-what-do-your-primal-meals-look-like-with-pics
Well, Primal, to be exact, since I eat dairy. I don't miss the taste of bread. Bread was usually just a vehicle to get something more tasty to my mouth, so now I just put whatever I would have put on the bread right into my mouth. Instead of a hamburger bun, I just eat the burger plain, or wrapped in lettuce or a portabella mushroom cap. Yum! If I eat something that really needs that delivery vehicle, like tuna salad or pate, I enjoy a flax cracker, which is much more flavorful than a wheat thin. When I go to a restaurant, if the bread is served warm and looks really tempting, I might have a bite, but after I bite I usually decide... meh... not really worth it. The memory of it is often better than the reality of it.
I've decided that zucchini pasta is way more delicious than traditional pasta - it's more flavorful and satisfying, and way faster to cook. Same with cauliflower rice. Tastier than regular rice for sure, and also faster to cook.
I no longer crave all the sweets and carby stuff like pretzels, chips, cookies, etc, and I used to be a total candy freak. Since I cut out most foods with added sugars, when I do have something sweet like fruit, or something that has honey or dates, it tastes really sweet to me now. And if I decide to treat with something non-paleo (like pie at Thanksgiving, or crab rangoon when the family orders Chinese) I don't feel guilty because it's a conscious choice.
For me, eating Paleo means replacing the space on my plate that used to be filled with less nutritious but fattening carbs like pasta, bread, and rice, and filling that space with a double serving of flavorful vegetables... flavorful because I often use fat to cook them. I really haven't increased my meat consumption, although I have significantly improved the quality of my meats, and I eat lots more eggs than I used to. I now cook more whole foods at home and have made some really incredible meals, which I would never have thought to make before. Cooking with pastured butter (or ghee, for Paleo sticklers), coconut oil, coconut milk, bacon grease, or home-made stock makes just about anything delicious.
It's harder to stay Paleo when eating at restaurants. Sometimes I do, and sometimes I decide not to worry too much about it and treat... with no guilt, because I know that one non-Paleo meal every once in a while is a drop in the bucket compared to my normal diet.
Now I'm off to eat my lunch that I packed. Two leftover ****ake sausage sliders, an ounce of some random gourmet cheese, an organic carrot and cucumber from my CSA (I like cut up raw veggies better than salads), some organic berries, and a handful of plantain chips. Nom nom.0 -
Hi,
I'm paleo and you can friend me if you want help. 15% body fat, I eat about 2400 calories every day. Easy and fun diet that is all about getting your nutritionally dense macros in and balancing out your EFAs.
Me on my paleo diet: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/66189_476153479071995_1970131184_n.jpg
my diet has no calorie restrictions at all.
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Looking into changing up my diet does anyone know about this paleo diet? I am concerned about not getting the proper nutrition and need some advise.
You can get nutrition by eating a paleo diet. The downside of paleo is that it cuts out way too many yummy, nutritious foods. You can get your nutrition from pretty much whatever foods you want. I find it best to eat things you enjoy. It helps with sanity/happiness.
I find that I'm eating way more yummy, nutritious foods on Paleo. And so are others... prepare to drool: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/691701-what-do-your-primal-meals-look-like-with-pics
Well, Primal, to be exact, since I eat dairy. I don't miss the taste of bread. Bread was usually just a vehicle to get something more tasty to my mouth, so now I just put whatever I would have put on the bread right into my mouth. Instead of a hamburger bun, I just eat the burger plain, or wrapped in lettuce or a portabella mushroom cap. Yum! If I eat something that really needs that delivery vehicle, like tuna salad or pate, I enjoy a flax cracker, which is much more flavorful than a wheat thin. When I go to a restaurant, if the bread is served warm and looks really tempting, I might have a bite, but after I bite I usually decide... meh... not really worth it. The memory of it is often better than the reality of it.
I've decided that zucchini pasta is way more delicious than traditional pasta - it's more flavorful and satisfying, and way faster to cook. Same with cauliflower rice. Tastier than regular rice for sure, and also faster to cook.
I no longer crave all the sweets and carby stuff like pretzels, chips, cookies, etc, and I used to be a total candy freak. Since I cut out most foods with added sugars, when I do have something sweet like fruit, or something that has honey or dates, it tastes really sweet to me now. And if I decide to treat with something non-paleo (like pie at Thanksgiving, or crab rangoon when the family orders Chinese) I don't feel guilty because it's a conscious choice.
For me, eating Paleo means replacing the space on my plate that used to be filled with less nutritious but fattening carbs like pasta, bread, and rice, and filling that space with a double serving of flavorful vegetables... flavorful because I often use fat to cook them. I really haven't increased my meat consumption, although I have significantly improved the quality of my meats, and I eat lots more eggs than I used to. I now cook more whole foods at home and have made some really incredible meals, which I would never have thought to make before. Cooking with pastured butter (or ghee, for Paleo sticklers), coconut oil, coconut milk, bacon grease, or home-made stock makes just about anything delicious.
It's harder to stay Paleo when eating at restaurants. Sometimes I do, and sometimes I decide not to worry too much about it and treat... with no guilt, because I know that one non-Paleo meal every once in a while is a drop in the bucket compared to my normal diet.
Now I'm off to eat my lunch that I packed. Two leftover ****ake sausage sliders, an ounce of some random gourmet cheese, an organic carrot and cucumber from my CSA (I like cut up raw veggies better than salads), some organic berries, and a handful of plantain chips. Nom nom.
Wish I was Paleo or Primal so I could eat sausage and carrots and coconuts and bacon. Damn.0 -
your not gonna get help here, all the paleo bashers will be out in full force , I suggest joining the paleo group . made that mistake before :ohwell:
This ^ Join the Paleo group if you want to ask questions from people who HAVE ACTUALLY TRIED this way of eating. We love to help and give our testimonies WITHOUT being attacked and ridiculed.0 -
I have to laugh at all the anti paleo people. Fluffy.
Just as the anti paleo people laugh at paleo peeps for being deluded and ignorant0 -
Hi,
I'm paleo as F()ck and you can friend me if you want help. 15% body fat, I eat about 2400 calories every day. Easy and fun diet that is all about getting your nutritionally dense macros in and balancing out your EFAs.
I have to laugh at all the anti paleo people. Fluffy.
Me on my paleo diet: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/66189_476153479071995_1970131184_n.jpg
my diet has no calorie restrictions at all.
Bless your Paleo heart. :flowerforyou: I'm super fluffy.0 -
I eat about 2400 calories every day.
my diet has no calorie restrictions at all.
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Hi,
I'm paleo as F()ck and you can friend me if you want help. 15% body fat, I eat about 2400 calories every day. Easy and fun diet that is all about getting your nutritionally dense macros in and balancing out your EFAs.
I have to laugh at all the anti paleo people. Fluffy.
Me on my paleo diet: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/66189_476153479071995_1970131184_n.jpg
my diet has no calorie restrictions at all.
Bold claim for someone with a closed diary... just sayin'.0 -
Why are Paleo people so cranky?0
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Holy crap this is a lot of info for me to process. I am not looking for something super restrictive & I LOVE my carbs. I just not sure how to change my diet to achieve results. I know it needs to change and keep hearing about this diet. Thank you everyone for all the information.
Then this lifestyle is NOT for you. Until you get sick of being sick you likely will find it too "restrictive". I do not find it restrictive at all. If your sole focus is purely weight loss and you expect to continue eating a Standard American Diet and see no problem with that, then continue what you are doing. Personally, I did see a problem with eating highly processed food because it was killing me, and until recently, I didn't care that it was killing me. I would also suggest doing some indepth research into food politics, nutrition, biology, anthropology, agriculture (past and present), anthropology, ethnography, etc. Just asking opinions in an online forum isn't going to give you real information, especially when many of the people who are sharing their strong opinions have no first-hand experience with the subject.0 -
Jof, where are you?
Where's my favorite Paleo buddy!? WHERE ARE YOU?! PUT DOWN THE SUSHI AND THE SMARTIES, NAO!0 -
Wish I was Paleo or Primal so I could eat sausage and carrots and coconuts and bacon. Damn.
Come to the dark side... but you'll have to lose those skittles most of the time. Of course, what do I know. I'm must be deluded and ignorant to be eating healthy veg, meats, and fats and avoiding processed foods and all the sugar, fat, and salt that goes with them.0 -
I have to laugh at all the anti paleo people. Fluffy.
Just as the anti paleo people laugh at paleo peeps for being deluded and ignorant
But apparently we are fluffy ;-( sad panda!0 -
I find that I'm eating way more yummy, nutritious foods on Paleo. And so are others... prepare to drool: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/691701-what-do-your-primal-meals-look-like-with-pics
Neh - I prefer my food - but thanks0 -
Why are Paleo people so cranky?
We're pissed the f*** off that we can't eat doughnuts...0 -
Zero carb diet. OMG! My question is how much are people paying for these book that make such wild claims?!?
It's not a wild claim.
There is no strict physiological need for dietary carbohydrates in terms of survival. The same is mostly true of fats except for a small number of EFAs. The only thing your body absolutely needs through dietary intake is protein.
Having said that I personally consume a lot of carbs mostly because a) I like eating them b) I have no real intolerance to them and c) I am very active.
Zero carb is insane. To cut out grains is bad enough, but no carbs at all? No veggies, no fruit? No vitamins? Just insane. And wild. And absurd. :laugh:0 -
fruits and vegetables are not zero carbs
QFT0 -
Why are Paleo people so cranky?
Same reason all the women starving on the magical 1200 calories are0
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