Bulletproof diet

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  • All I've got to say is, that coffee is a total waste.

    If I want fat in my coffee, God and his cows provide something called "heavy whipping cream." It's got a lot in common with butter. It's actually the stuff they make butter out of! It's ....less processed butter! Hey, consider it "clean butter". It sure as hell TASTES a lot better in coffee than butter does.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    oh and since this is a necro thread, which should be nuked, but isn't.... allow me to invoke:

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  • nicsflyingcircus
    nicsflyingcircus Posts: 2,860 Member
    mfpcopine wrote: »
    I like butter (will eat Kerrygold's plain) and I like black coffee, but both of them together doesn't sound appealing. Is coffee and butter together really that yummy? Is it used to take away cravings or something?

    Some people who do Intermittent Fasting mix a little bit of fat into black coffee. I tried it with coconut oil (1/4 teaspoon?) and it was very satisfying. I with I could find Kerrygold in NYC.

    I drink coffee with heavy whipping cream or hwc and cocont oil (10g). Of course, I am eating a ketogenic "diet" and getting 70-75% of my caloric intake from fat. I have not yet worked up the courage to try butter in my coffee though.

    **Disclaimer: I keto in conjunction with calorie counting. I do not believe I can eat whatever amount I want that is keto-friendly and lose weight. I just find it significantly easier to adhere to my deficit this way and frankly, I could care less if anyone else chooses no carb, low carb or all the carbs.

    ;)
  • When I found out about the bulletproof keto coffee (1 cup coffee, 1Tb Cream, 1Tb Butter, 1Tb Coconut Oil) I was horrified... A normal coffee for me is with skim milk so this transition was going to be a challenge. I put all the ingredients into my Vitamix and blitz for about 30 seconds on high. It's surprisingly good and definitely keeps me satisfied until lunch.

    To be fair I've only been trying the keto diet for 1 week now, however it's showing signs of promise.
  • dhyon06
    dhyon06 Posts: 4 Member
    To All -

    Im new to this app but have recieved positive feedback and so far its been very useful and easy to track calorie & nutritonal data.

    In any event - I have participated in the bulletproof / ketogenic diet overall for 6-7weeks aggressively within the first 2 weeks than have tapered it down on a moderate approach for the remaining 4-5 weeks by having a "Carb" day or two depending on my cravings, appetite, mood, etc (Generally Sat & Sun)

    I started at 226 pounds and down to 206. But now I am having difficulty going below 200 where my target goal is 185pounds by end of Spring ( Noticed the plateau for the past two weeks). I have used a pesonal trainer for the last month and doing full body workouts / HIIT type routines once a week (He does not recommend Keto for his program) while continuing to do compound exercises twice a week using a Pryamid progression specifically by increasing heavier weights. I have divided upper body on one day and lower body for another other.

    Keep in mind I rarely do cardio because I just simply hate it but I'm starting to consider doing HIIT Jumproping by doing 6 sets of 30 seconds intense jumproping followed by a 30 seconds regular jump roping follwed by 1 minute stretching than starting the next set if I don't see any further results from the Bulletproof / Keto plan.

    Upper Body Routine:
    Chest:
    - Incline Bench 5 x 5 sets and reps for 245Pounds
    - Dips 5 x 6-8
    Back:
    - Lat Pull Downs 4 x 8 or 10 x 140pound
    - Seated Rows 4 x 10 x 140pounds
    - Pull ups 5 x 6 no weights
    Shoulders:
    - Barbell Milt Press 5x5x 115 Pounds
    - Plate Bus Driver Raises 4x10X45Pound Plate
    - Reverse Lat Raises 4x10x20 Pound Dumbell

    Lower Body Routine:
    - Deadlift 4x6-8x 205pounds
    - Squat 5x6x185 - 205 pounds
    - Kettle Bell Swing 4x15x 40 pound kettle bell
    - Squat Jumps 4x10

    I do not want to go back on full keto / bulletproof dieting because during the aggressive stages I suffered through major gastroic and stomach issues that kept lingering until I refed on Carbs. It was an uncomfortable cycle, keep in mind I have incorporated intermittent fasting below is a general outline of what I would eat Mon-Fri, when I would eat...

    Meal Plan | Aggressive Keto / Bulletproof:
    - 7AM -2PM - Bulletproof Coffee, 1 Tbsp Kerrygold Butter + 1 Tbsp Coconut Oil + 2 cups French Pressed Coffee + 1 TBSP of Heavy Cream
    - 2PM First Meal, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs (two pieces) + Sauteed Kale or Arugula Salad or Asparagus.
    - Xtend Amino during workout 1 scoop if I'm training
    - 7-8PM Dinner, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs + Salad or Kale, or Asparagus.
    - Note for all cooking I would use 1TBSP of Kerrygold Butter and 1 TBSP of Coconut Oil alot of sea salt and Olive Oil uncooked just over a salad very liberally 2-4TBSP.

    Meal Plan | Moderate Keto / Bulletproof:
    - 7AM -12PM - Bulletproof Coffee, 1 Tbsp Kerrygold Butter + 1 Tbsp Coconut Oil + 2 cups French Pressed Coffee + 1 TBSP of Heavy Cream.
    - 1PM First Meal, 1 Cups of Total Fage Full Fat Greek Yogurt + 1/2 Cup of Blueberry + 1 TBSP Oraganic Honey + 1 TBSP of Caco Powder + 1 Scoop of Eat the Bear Whey Protein w/ Water.
    - 2-3PM First Meal, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs (two pieces) + Sauteed Kale or Arugula Salad or Asparagus. Or Chipotle Bowl, No Beans, No Rice, No Sour Cream, Just All Scoops of Meats + Veggies + Guacaomole (Optional depending on mood. very rare I pack a lunch)
    - Xtend Amino during workout 1 scoop if I'm training
    - 7-8PM Dinner, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs + Salad or Kale, or Asparagus.
    - 9-10PM Optional 1 Scoop of Whey + 1 Cup of Whole Milk + 1 TBSP Almond / Peanut Butter (If I'm hungry)
    - Note for all cooking I would use 1TBSP of Kerrygold Butter and 1 TBSP of Coconut Oil alot of sea salt and Olive Oil uncooked just over a salad very liberally 2-4TBSP.

    Above is a typical meal that I would eat without calculating amount I would use my eye and will be very liberal with veggies and meats - This did lead to alot of stomach and GI problems when I would not have carbs like yogurt, protein shake, whole milk, etc.

    Based on all the info above, what am I do wrong? Am I over-training? Am I not eating enough? Any smart and effective input would be great - I modeled this way of eating while listening to Dom Dagostino, Tim Ferris, Dave Asprey's book, Charles Paloquin... My trainer thinks its a fad diet, I have seen energy levels increase along with congitive function but stomach issues defintely plagued my ability to continue and I can't imagine this being a great protocal for long term use.

    Again my goal is to gain lean muscle mass, decrease body fat, reduce cardio input (I used to do 40minute on stairmaster with minimal results and felt miserable) and be able to eat wihtout cravings and crashes.

    Kindest Regards,

    -Danny
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    dhyon06 wrote: »
    To All -

    Im new to this app but have recieved positive feedback and so far its been very useful and easy to track calorie & nutritonal data.

    In any event - I have participated in the bulletproof / ketogenic diet overall for 6-7weeks aggressively within the first 2 weeks than have tapered it down on a moderate approach for the remaining 4-5 weeks by having a "Carb" day or two depending on my cravings, appetite, mood, etc (Generally Sat & Sun)

    I started at 226 pounds and down to 206. But now I am having difficulty going below 200 where my target goal is 185pounds by end of Spring ( Noticed the plateau for the past two weeks). I have used a pesonal trainer for the last month and doing full body workouts / HIIT type routines once a week (He does not recommend Keto for his program) while continuing to do compound exercises twice a week using a Pryamid progression specifically by increasing heavier weights. I have divided upper body on one day and lower body for another other.

    Keep in mind I rarely do cardio because I just simply hate it but I'm starting to consider doing HIIT Jumproping by doing 6 sets of 30 seconds intense jumproping followed by a 30 seconds regular jump roping follwed by 1 minute stretching than starting the next set if I don't see any further results from the Bulletproof / Keto plan.

    Upper Body Routine:
    Chest:
    - Incline Bench 5 x 5 sets and reps for 245Pounds
    - Dips 5 x 6-8
    Back:
    - Lat Pull Downs 4 x 8 or 10 x 140pound
    - Seated Rows 4 x 10 x 140pounds
    - Pull ups 5 x 6 no weights
    Shoulders:
    - Barbell Milt Press 5x5x 115 Pounds
    - Plate Bus Driver Raises 4x10X45Pound Plate
    - Reverse Lat Raises 4x10x20 Pound Dumbell

    Lower Body Routine:
    - Deadlift 4x6-8x 205pounds
    - Squat 5x6x185 - 205 pounds
    - Kettle Bell Swing 4x15x 40 pound kettle bell
    - Squat Jumps 4x10

    I do not want to go back on full keto / bulletproof dieting because during the aggressive stages I suffered through major gastroic and stomach issues that kept lingering until I refed on Carbs. It was an uncomfortable cycle, keep in mind I have incorporated intermittent fasting below is a general outline of what I would eat Mon-Fri, when I would eat...

    Meal Plan | Aggressive Keto / Bulletproof:
    - 7AM -2PM - Bulletproof Coffee, 1 Tbsp Kerrygold Butter + 1 Tbsp Coconut Oil + 2 cups French Pressed Coffee + 1 TBSP of Heavy Cream
    - 2PM First Meal, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs (two pieces) + Sauteed Kale or Arugula Salad or Asparagus.
    - Xtend Amino during workout 1 scoop if I'm training
    - 7-8PM Dinner, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs + Salad or Kale, or Asparagus.
    - Note for all cooking I would use 1TBSP of Kerrygold Butter and 1 TBSP of Coconut Oil alot of sea salt and Olive Oil uncooked just over a salad very liberally 2-4TBSP.

    Meal Plan | Moderate Keto / Bulletproof:
    - 7AM -12PM - Bulletproof Coffee, 1 Tbsp Kerrygold Butter + 1 Tbsp Coconut Oil + 2 cups French Pressed Coffee + 1 TBSP of Heavy Cream.
    - 1PM First Meal, 1 Cups of Total Fage Full Fat Greek Yogurt + 1/2 Cup of Blueberry + 1 TBSP Oraganic Honey + 1 TBSP of Caco Powder + 1 Scoop of Eat the Bear Whey Protein w/ Water.
    - 2-3PM First Meal, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs (two pieces) + Sauteed Kale or Arugula Salad or Asparagus. Or Chipotle Bowl, No Beans, No Rice, No Sour Cream, Just All Scoops of Meats + Veggies + Guacaomole (Optional depending on mood. very rare I pack a lunch)
    - Xtend Amino during workout 1 scoop if I'm training
    - 7-8PM Dinner, 8oz Grassfed Beef or Chicken Thighs + Salad or Kale, or Asparagus.
    - 9-10PM Optional 1 Scoop of Whey + 1 Cup of Whole Milk + 1 TBSP Almond / Peanut Butter (If I'm hungry)
    - Note for all cooking I would use 1TBSP of Kerrygold Butter and 1 TBSP of Coconut Oil alot of sea salt and Olive Oil uncooked just over a salad very liberally 2-4TBSP.

    Above is a typical meal that I would eat without calculating amount I would use my eye and will be very liberal with veggies and meats - This did lead to alot of stomach and GI problems when I would not have carbs like yogurt, protein shake, whole milk, etc.

    Based on all the info above, what am I do wrong? Am I over-training? Am I not eating enough? Any smart and effective input would be great - I modeled this way of eating while listening to Dom Dagostino, Tim Ferris, Dave Asprey's book, Charles Paloquin... My trainer thinks its a fad diet, I have seen energy levels increase along with congitive function but stomach issues defintely plagued my ability to continue and I can't imagine this being a great protocal for long term use.

    Again my goal is to gain lean muscle mass, decrease body fat, reduce cardio input (I used to do 40minute on stairmaster with minimal results and felt miserable) and be able to eat wihtout cravings and crashes.

    Kindest Regards,

    -Danny

    This thread is two years old. If you're looking for advice, you may want to begin a new thread.

    Generally, if you aren't losing weight it is because you aren't in a calorie deficit. What is eat is going to be less important (for weight loss) than the calories you're eating.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Necro thread lives again.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited January 2016
    Hi Danny

    Wow that's a long post

    Am I reading right that you don't want to continue with keto or low carb?

    That's fine ...you can adjust to a more rounded diet if that's what you like ...and more balanced macros might actually help with your energy for training

    I would watch my calories across the week ...ensuring I hit my defecit with a goal of no more than 1% of bodyweight loss per week

    I would set my protein at 0.64-0.8g protein per lb bodyweight MINIMUM
    Set fat at 0.35g per lb bodyweight minimum
    Eat carbs at will

    Make sure I'm hitting a wide spread of nutritious foods...vegetables, lean proteins, dairy, carbs and enjoying my food

    Fuel my exercise appropriately

    I think you will have to weather the storm of water weight adjustments when "normalising" your diet

    I like the sound of your trainer TBH ...

    But that's just my take on it, and I must admit I scanned cos that post is way long ...sorry if I misread in any way
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    As for cardio 2-3 sessions of 20 minutes intense cardio a week suffices for cardiovascular health

    Progressive resistance is also important
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    When I came in here it was one post ...Danny's super long post

    Not a 4 page necro thread

    So either MFP glitches are weird or someone is tinkering ..badly
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  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited January 2016
    Asprey is a crackpot. You lose weight by eating less than you burn, period. Anybody who says otherwise is an idiot and/or trying to sell you some diet scam.

    Do you want a healthy life style, for all your life, no yoyo effect? Follow the starch solution of Dr Mcdougall. look it up.

    It is about eating starchy plants cooked/processed minimally with the addition of vegetables and fruits. No added fat/oil or sugar. No animal products WHATSOEVER

    This is an equally crackpot answer. We've swung from one extreme to the other here.
  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member
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    sorry

    Never be sorry for this post. I love this post.
  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member
    it's bullet proof cause if you eat bullets then you die and dont gain weight when your dead....

    On the negative side, lead is a very dense, heavy metal and toxic. On the plus side? No calories!!!

    Heavy metal is lean and healthy, alternative is high in fiber and christian rock is loaded with vitimins.....

    And I love this post.
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