does milk count as water?
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This topic is making me thirsty! Off to have a glass of water with ice. It's a good thing I don't drink milk or I'd be stuck! (Can I count my glass of water if it has ice in it?)0
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Not you. The original person who misunderstood. I knew you were joking.
touchehow the hell did this end up with us talking about the proper way to drink pee?
Blame the person who failed reading comprehension.
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So let me make sure I have this straight....if I take a glass of water and add 1 gram of vegetable oil to it, it now has 9 calories. So if I drink that substance, it won't hydrate me any more because it now has calories in it?Milk has calories in it water dont simple
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Water = Water. Milk = Milk. They are not the same thing, unfortunately.
While I agree that milk (skim) is great protein and very good for you, it cannot be considered the same thing as water.
Coffee and tea are also (to some extent) good for you and keep you full but those also cannot really be considered the same things as water because they dehydrate you. For every cup of coffee or tea you have, try to have an extra cup of water.
I would not say this is necessary for milk because it does not dehydrate you, however I would not count it towards your daily water consumption goal.
But milk is still really good for you and as long as you watch the calories (especially if you're drinking something other than skim), because even at ~80 calories per serving too many glasses can add up fast, then DRINK UP!
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how the hell did this end up with us talking about the proper way to drink pee?
Blame the person who failed reading comprehension.
That post was meant to be humorous. We need a snark font.0 -
so many different opinions haha
So, did you come to any conclusions? Are you going with 1) it's a liquid mostly of comprised of H20 and count it or 2) taking the stance that it's milk, not water? There is only one scientific answer btw.
again i state. i was just wondering if milk counted towards the amount of water i need to drink in a day not if it actually was water but if i needed to drink just as much or even more water because of the milk i drinkI know it is late, but is this a serious question? Water is water, milk is milk...pretty self explanatory
I posted peer reviewed studies - not opinion. Basically milk can be counted towards your hydration.0 -
Water = Water. Milk = Milk. They are not the same thing, unfortunately.
While I agree that milk (skim) is great protein and very good for you, it cannot be considered the same thing as water.
Coffee and tea are also (to some extent) good for you and keep you full but those also cannot really be considered the same things as water because they dehydrate you. For every cup of coffee or tea you have, try to have an extra cup of water.
I would not say this is necessary for milk because it does not dehydrate you, however I would not count it towards your daily water consumption goal.
But milk is still really good for you and as long as you watch the calories (especially if you're drinking something other than skim), because even at ~80 calories per serving too many glasses can add up fast, then DRINK UP!
The dehydrating impact of caffeinated is negligible. Coffee is hydrating.0 -
I've wondered this also. Basically liquid is liquid. If you have say, 8 glasses of juice I feel that's almost the same as water. Ya know?0
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This topic is making me thirsty! Off to have a glass of water with ice. It's a good thing I don't drink milk or I'd be stuck! (Can I count my glass of water if it has ice in it?)
or ... can you count the ice you put in your milk?0 -
Luckily for me, I centrifuge my milk before drinking it and consume the H2O, fat, protein, and carbohydrate solids separately (though in the same sitting). That allows my body to correctly file the molecules, and I get my deserved 7oz of hydrating H20 per cup.0
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Here's a PubMed study which suggests otherwise:...Coffee and tea are also (to some extent) good for you and keep you full but those also cannot really be considered the same things as water because they dehydrate you...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/214501180 -
I posted peer reviewed studies - not opinion. Basically milk can be counted towards your hydration.
and according to medical professionals, when monitoring patient's hydration, so do things like soup broth and even jello.0 -
This topic is making me thirsty! Off to have a glass of water with ice. It's a good thing I don't drink milk or I'd be stuck! (Can I count my glass of water if it has ice in it?)
If you have water with ice in it, it counts as 2 cups of water. 0 -
I hope you aren't serious. Milk is a liquid solution (a few solids) mixed with 0 to 4.5% fat and is mostly water.No. Milk is a solid! It gets excreted through the intestines. Water is important but I wouldn't drink too much. You can get water intoxication and mess up your electrolytes. But water is still the best thing to drink for your health and weight loss!
Good luck
Hope
What is milk without water? Powder milk. A solid.
Pretty sure no one here is 'drinking' 8 cups of dry powdered milk. :sick:0 -
I posted peer reviewed studies - not opinion. Basically milk can be counted towards your hydration.
and according to medical professionals, when monitoring patient's hydration, so do things like soup broth and even jello.
Very true!
Anyone that tells you milk doesn't count toward hydration is missing some very basic chemistry knowledge, plain and simple. Their opinions are not valid, since they display ignorance about how the body processes nutrients.0 -
What is water when exposed to significant heat? A gas.
I hope you aren't serious. Milk is a liquid solution (a few solids) mixed with 0 to 4.5% fat and is mostly water.No. Milk is a solid! It gets excreted through the intestines. Water is important but I wouldn't drink too much. You can get water intoxication and mess up your electrolytes. But water is still the best thing to drink for your health and weight loss!
Good luck
Hope
What is milk without water? Powder milk. A solid.
Therefore, drinking water does not hydrate you because you are actually consuming a gas in an alternate physical form.
What is water when it is refrigerated below 32* F? A solid.
Therefore, drinking water does not hydrate you because you are actually consuming a solid in an alternate physical form.0 -
This is my favorite thread so far! Lots of giggles and laughs, Thanks:). Laughing is good for you, it can lower cortisol levels, increase relaxation and burns calories:)0
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What is water when exposed to significant heat? A gas.
Therefore, drinking water does not hydrate you because you are actually consuming a gas in an alternate physical form.
What is water when it is refrigerated below 32* F? A solid.
Therefore, drinking water does not hydrate you because you are actually consuming a solid in an alternate physical form.
It actually doesn't matter what state you're consuming the water in. If you're consuming water molecules, your body is absorbing water molecules. That said, you'd have to swallow a lot of water vapor to consume the same number of water molecules as in a cup of water. And that would probably make you very gassy. But not necessarily dehydrated.0 -
Understood and agreed. I was just extrapolating some of the silly logic found elsewhere in this thread.
It actually doesn't matter what state you're consuming the water in. If you're consuming water molecules, your body is absorbing water molecules. That said, you'd have to swallow a lot of water vapor to consume the same number of water molecules as in a cup of water. And that would probably make you very gassy. But not necessarily dehydrated.What is water when exposed to significant heat? A gas.
Therefore, drinking water does not hydrate you because you are actually consuming a gas in an alternate physical form.
What is water when it is refrigerated below 32* F? A solid.
Therefore, drinking water does not hydrate you because you are actually consuming a solid in an alternate physical form.0 -
^I see. Totally went over my head lol, probably because there's been so much ridiculousness on this thread. I think it's time to call it a night!0
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I know you know chem we have talked about it before. As you know the law conservation of mass, 1 molecule of H2o is 1 molecule H2o doesn't matter the state it's in. To consume 1 cup of water you have to consume x molecules of H2o. We can figure out how many molecules through dimensional analysis using the density formula, and molecular mass. I am sure you know the routine. 1 cup of h2o in gas form has the same molecules of 1 cup of h2o in liquid form.
When you consume H2o(g) it will be mixed with environmental gases so... yes you would need more volume to consume, but the amount of H2O you're taking in is the same. I know you know this, just saying it for other people, what you said could be misinterpreted.
I don't know how you ended up discussing chemistry in this thread, but my nerdy self urgently needs to chip in: 1 cup of water does NOT have the same molecules with 1 cup of gas water simply because their densities are different. Or if we just use some common sense which is the best way (imo) to do any kind of science, if you hold up one cup of gas (let's say it's closed so that it doesn't escape) and one cup of water you'll obviously notice that the (liquid) water is heavier. The reason simply being that it contains more water molecules...
Edited to add: I kind of hate myself for making another correction, but dimensional analysis could NEVER give you the number of molecules, simply because the number of molecules is dimensionless...0 -
I posted peer reviewed studies - not opinion. Basically milk can be counted towards your hydration.
and according to medical professionals, when monitoring patient's hydration, so do things like soup broth and even jello.
And let's not forget saline solution and banana bags.0 -
Yeah, I caught it.how the hell did this end up with us talking about the proper way to drink pee?
Blame the person who failed reading comprehension.
That post was meant to be humorous. We need a snark font. I was just giving them grief. 0 -
Wait, people on here track their WATER intake? Wut? :huh:0
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Are you for realz??0
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If we're going to be technical, nobody should be logging it if they're drinking anything but distilled water. Tap/bottled water has dissolved solids, minerals, chemicals and other, y'know...."stuff" in it, so it's not really water - just like Mio, Crystal Light, iced tea, soda, coffee, milk, etc. don't count as water because they have "stuff" added to them.
Hey, we might as well take the idea to its logical conclusion....0 -
seriously?!!!!!! LOL0
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The human body, which is made up of between 55 and 75 percent water,
Lack of water can lead to dehydration, a condition that occurs when you don't have enough water in your
body to carry on normal functions....0 -
Pu_239, I'll reply here for now, but if the discussion continues, perhaps it's better to exchange some PMs. I'm not trying to show off or annoy you, I just felt the need to clarify a couple things you said and were wrong.
That's simply wrong. The density of any material is not carved in stone - it depends on temperature and pressure. Especially for gases, this dependence is critical (remember the ideal gases law, PV=nRT? n/V is practically the density)Water has one density, the density doesn't change dependent on state.
Now for liquids and solids, this dependence is much weaker and for most everyday applications you can use e.g. for water the value of 1kg/m^3. But it's not a constant. Water in gas form will have a very different density.
Actually what you said in your previous post wasThe cup example is there are "less molecules" in the gas cup. If ther was the same molecules as the liquid cup then it would way the same. I think you're confused, I never said 1 cup of gas. It will be a lot more.
That last sentence I put in bold is wrong. This is what my earlier comment was about.I know you know chem we have talked about it before. As you know the law conservation of mass, 1 molecule of H2o is 1 molecule H2o doesn't matter the state it's in. To consume 1 cup of water you have to consume x molecules of H2o. We can figure out how many molecules through dimensional analysis using the density formula, and molecular mass. I am sure you know the routine. 1 cup of h2o in gas form has the same molecules of 1 cup of h2o in liquid form.
I see why you misinterpreted my comment. What you wrote is absolutely correct but it's not "dimensional analysis". It's just the application of a couple simple formulas & definitions. If you're interested, take a look at this to see what dimensional analysis isso here is your dimensional analysis
1cup (236.588mL/1cup)(1g/1 mL )(1mol /18.0153g)(6.022*10^23molecules/1mole) = 7.60846e24 molecules of H2O in 1 cup
or 7,608,460,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of H2O per 1 cup of water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis
I hope this clarifies everything. Again, let me repeat I'm not trying to show off or annoy you. I enjoy good scientific discussions and that's why I commented in the first place.0 -
Water has one density, the density doesn't change dependent on state. The cup example is there are "less molecules" in the gas cup. If ther was the same molecules as the liquid cup then it would way the same. I think you're confused....
Quoted for the Lolz.
1 density?
My 10 years old knows better.
Here is the question. Why does ice float?0
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