what exactly falls under "lifting"

bradwwood

I need some clarification on what everyone here means when they say "lift"

I know, I know, "pick things up, and put them down"

now that thats over with....

is "lifting" only dealing with weights? I don't know all the different moves, but things like bench press, dead lift, curls, etc. Or, is doing push ups, chin ups, pull ups, squats, lunges, calf lifts, considering part of the whole 'lift" regiment?

I only ask because it seems like a lot of folks here are all about lifting, and I've been doing strength building stuff and wondering if I'm missing out on something extra.

thanks

Leadfoot_Lewis

I know, I know, "pick things up, and put them down"

I suppose it can be subjective, but IMO yes, lifting = lifting an object.

is "lifting" only dealing with weights? I don't know all the different moves, but things like bench press, dead lift, curls, etc. Or, is doing push ups, chin ups, pull ups, squats, lunges, calf lifts, considering part of the whole 'lift" regiment?

In my world, yes, lifting=weights. Some will say the body weight stuff is lifting as well. All the exercises you mentioned above will be much more beneficial if weights are involved, if the individual is capable of doing so.

LoraF83

I would classify "lifting" as using free weights and doing compound lifts and accessory work.

I would classify "strength training" as anything with resistance bands, kettlebells, light weights, machines, weight/cardio combo routines, and body weight exercises.

DavPul

Can we stop beating around the bush here?

Obviously you want us to tell you to go lift weights at the gym, and then you're going to come back and say how your regimen of calisthenics, bodyweight exercises and climbing are equal to or superior to going to the gym, and someone doing the same thing will come in and cosign and say it's more useful in everyday life, and then we'll go back and forth on it, and then someone will say that different people have different goals, and then CARLO5 will come in and ask if you've tried yoga, and then someone will call me an ignorant meathead.

So just tell us what you're doing so I can slam it and let's get this party started. I ain't got all day.

FullOfWin

Can we stop beating around the bush here?

Obviously you want us to tell you to go lift weights at the gym, and then you're going to come back and say how your regimen of calisthenics, bodyweight exercises and climbing are equal to or superior to going to the gym, and someone doing the same thing wqill come in and cosign and say it's more useful in everyday life, and then we'll go back and forth on it, and then someone will say that different people have different goals, and then CARLO5 will come in and ask if you've tried yoga, and then someone will call me an ignorant meathead.

So just tell us what you're doing so I can slam it and let's get this party started. I ain't got all day.

This is just the kind of post I would expect from an ignorant meathead

Chief_Rocka

Bodyweight moves can be considered "lifting" for a beginner, but "strength building" is all about...*drumroll*...getting stronger. So if you aren't adding resistance to these movements, then you aren't building strength.

DontStopB_Leakin

Can we stop beating around the bush here?

Obviously you want us to tell you to go lift weights at the gym, and then you're going to come back and say how your regimen of calisthenics, bodyweight exercises and climbing are equal to or superior to going to the gym, and someone doing the same thing wqill come in and cosign and say it's more useful in everyday life, and then we'll go back and forth on it, and then someone will say that different people have different goals, and then CARLO5 will come in and ask if you've tried yoga, and then someone will call me an ignorant meathead.

So just tell us what you're doing so I can slam it and let's get this party started. I ain't got all day.

I love you.

n0ob

Can we stop beating around the bush here?

Obviously you want us to tell you to go lift weights at the gym, and then you're going to come back and say how your regimen of calisthenics, bodyweight exercises and climbing are equal to or superior to going to the gym, and someone doing the same thing wqill come in and cosign and say it's more useful in everyday life, and then we'll go back and forth on it, and then someone will say that different people have different goals, and then CARLO5 will come in and ask if you've tried yoga, and then someone will call me an ignorant meathead.

So just tell us what you're doing so I can slam it and let's get this party started. I ain't got all day.

This is just the kind of post I would expect from an ignorant meathead

you're just bitter that he posted it first...

yoovie

I go by this:

lifting my own body
lifting the barbell
lifting two dumbbells
lifting a kettlebell

anything that requires my whole body to pick something up or push something up.

vjohn04

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

Chief_Rocka

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

Generally speaking, it's a weight you can handle for around 8 reps. In the lifting world, "heavy" usually means 5 reps or less.

FullOfWin

So reverse cowgirl counts?

Capt_Apollo

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

heavy is relative to the lifter.

i like to go by certain bench marks.

Men:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
1x body weight for chest/bench press

Women:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
75%body weight for chest/bench press

amy1612

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

Its meant to be...heavy 'for you' might mean an empty barbell, heavy for someone else might be 200kg. It means lift as heavy as you can for around 5 reps max, and continue to try and add weight once that gets easier.

vjohn04

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

Generally speaking, it's a weight you can handle for around 8 reps. In the lifting world, "heavy" usually means 5 reps or less.

Thank you.

vjohn04

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

heavy is relative to the lifter.

i like to go by certain bench marks.

Men:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
1x body weight for chest/bench press

Women:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
75%body weight for chest/bench press

and thank you.

n0ob

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

heavy is relative to the lifter.

i like to go by certain bench marks.

Men:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
1x body weight for chest/bench press

Women:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
75%body weight for chest/bench press

cool...my warmup sets are "heavy"

wolfpack77

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

Being proficient in the Olympic lifts is the only true demonstration of strength, speed and power.

vjohn04

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

Being proficient in the Olympic lifts is the only true demonstration of strength, speed and power.

word.

Yogi_Carl

Can we stop beating around the bush here?

Obviously you want us to tell you to go lift weights at the gym, and then you're going to come back and say how your regimen of calisthenics, bodyweight exercises and climbing are equal to or superior to going to the gym, and someone doing the same thing will come in and cosign and say it's more useful in everyday life, and then we'll go back and forth on it, and then someone will say that different people have different goals, and then CARLO5 will come in and ask if you've tried yoga, and then someone will call me an ignorant meathead.

So just tell us what you're doing so I can slam it and let's get this party started. I ain't got all day.

Well? Have you?

FullOfWin

In terms of weight I think of heavy as 85+ percent of one rep max. Generally when people talk about heavy lifting, they are referring to compound barbell lifting in the 5-8 rep range.

ahviendha

Can we stop beating around the bush here?

Obviously you want us to tell you to go lift weights at the gym, and then you're going to come back and say how your regimen of calisthenics, bodyweight exercises and climbing are equal to or superior to going to the gym, and someone doing the same thing will come in and cosign and say it's more useful in everyday life, and then we'll go back and forth on it, and then someone will say that different people have different goals, and then CARLO5 will come in and ask if you've tried yoga, and then someone will call me an ignorant meathead.

So just tell us what you're doing so I can slam it and let's get this party started. I ain't got all day.

ahahahahaha youse funny. i like you.

BACONJOKESRSOFUNNY

Now that we have "lifting" down, let's talk about "fluffing".

Ge0rgiana

Can we stop beating around the bush here?

Obviously you want us to tell you to go lift weights at the gym, and then you're going to come back and say how your regimen of calisthenics, bodyweight exercises and climbing are equal to or superior to going to the gym, and someone doing the same thing will come in and cosign and say it's more useful in everyday life, and then we'll go back and forth on it, and then someone will say that different people have different goals, and then CARLO5 will come in and ask if you've tried yoga, and then someone will call me an ignorant meathead.

So just tell us what you're doing so I can slam it and let's get this party started. I ain't got all day.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Vonwarr

Most people are talking about free weights when they say "lifting"... it falls under the category of strength training though. Lifting is strength training... machines are strength training (I really don't recommend them though)... body weight exercises are strength training.

chivalryder

Now that we have "lifting" down, let's talk about "fluffing".

JezzD1

i always wondered what was meant by "heavy". It's a very subjective term.

heavy is relative to the lifter.

i like to go by certain bench marks.

Men:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
1x body weight for chest/bench press

Women:
1.5x body weight for a dead lift
1x body weight for a squat
75% body weight for over head press
75%body weight for chest/bench press

Is this Gold? I think it is....

JezzD1

So machines are not considered lifting and def cannot be labeled as heavy lifting? =( Guess I better work up the courage to walk into the free weights section of the gym ='(

Yogi_Carl

If it were possible to make the exercise hard enough for the muscles you are targetting to be working at around 85% one rep max, would you consider a bodyweight exercise to be up there with an equivalent weighted exercise? I would.

The difficulty is only in knowing how to keep the intensity, not the weight neccessarily, increasing to keep stimulating strength growth.

I accept the point, "why bother complicating things with bodyweight exercises when a simple 5x5 compound lifting program will provide it all much simpler, but I for one just don't have access to a properly equipped commercial gym or the space or funds to equip myself at home. In this case, bodyweight is all I've got and providing you do enough research, it continues to work.

We joke about me and yoga, but I actually feel that bodyweight exercise is more in line with the strength and balance I need for progress in yoga as a lot of bodyweight stuff is one-sided and off centre (to keep the intensity up there - the further away from centre, the greater the force required and so the greater the strength developed).

I guess the same could be applied to your climbing, although when I was climbing I was doing classical compound 5 x 5 strength work - and didn't bulk! (another dead donkey often thrashed out on here!)

Just to throw another one in there - just to ring the changes I do a kettlebell routine over the weekends and I'm really enjoying it.

So - Mr DavPul - I don't just DO YOGA! :drinker:

bradwwood

Thanks everyone.

It sounds like I'm not doing anything bad, but I could be doing more.

Do any of you have some references I can look at that will help me put together something at home? I don't have a lot of space or financial resources, and gym isn't option, so I'm always looking for inexpensive home options

Thanks

DavPul

Thanks everyone.

It sounds like I'm not doing anything bad, but I could be doing more.

Do any of you have some references I can look at that will help me put together something at home? I don't have a lot of space or financial resources, and gym isn't option, so I'm always looking for inexpensive home options

Thanks

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