Colon Hydrotherapy
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http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/gerson/patientI AM going to be called crazy for saying this, but there is actually a Cancer treatment called the Gerson Method that incorporates Coffee enemas. The documentary I saw said at the time there was one record of a Stage 4 cancer survivor (of which type of cancer I can't remember) who recovered on the Gerson method. Only person to survive stage 4 apparently. It's WAY more than coffee enemas, but those are a part of it.
Take that however you will!!!
Now back to the goofing off.
http://www.quackwatch.com/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=gerson
I have done a lot of research on Max Gerson and curing diseases with nutrition and therapy, he was able to cure certain cancers with juicing, nutrition, and enemas are part of it. This is a holistic approach so you will not find MEDICAL doctors supporting this. Anything holistic will not be found in medical research or journals, they do not promote healing naturally, you would need to research yourself.
Comes down to if you believe in holistic medicine or not. It has been very successful for many people and I personally believe nutrition is the most important thing when it comes to illness and disease.
Check out the Gerson Miracle, Food Matters - quite a bit a information about him.
You go right ahead if you get cancer and treat it with juicing and enemas. :flowerforyou:
The Gerson Institute has cured many people of cancer, I wouldn't make it seem like it is a ridiculous thing. Chemo and Radiation are not the end all be all of cancer treatment. And these things are part of the program, not the only things that cure cancer. Just because you may not believe in holistic medicine doesn't mean it is crap.
Like I said to each his own, either you believe in holistics or you don't.
Needing faith due to a lack of evidence, it kinda does mean that.0 -
The Gerson Institute has cured many people of cancer, I wouldn't make it seem like it is a ridiculous thing. Chemo and Radiation are not the end all be all of cancer treatment. And these things are part of the program, not the only things that cure cancer. Just because you may not believe in holistic medicine doesn't mean it is crap.
Like I said to each his own, either you believe in holistics or you don't.
I believe that diet and exercise and other healthy habits (and not smoking, drinking too much, etc.) can help prevent disease.
I don't believe that shiving coffee up my butt will cure cancer.
Just to add: My grandmother was a doctor who died from colon cancer that metasticized (sp?) to her liver. She was willing to try any and every treatment available and I guarantee if she had any inkling that something like that might actually work, she would have done it. She was in med school about the time Gersen was testifying before Congress, so I'm sure she was aware of the treatment.0 -
I did the colon hydrotherapy and it was great and yes, do the extra and get the organic coffee -- it truly is amazing.0
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There is no evidence that this does anything useful (other than flush out your lower digestive tract), and there is evidence that it could cause damage. As with other sorts of quackery, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that comes from people who were not harmed by it. That does not mean they were helped by it.
So I would say that it is a waste of money. Not to mention coffee.0 -
The colon hydrotherapy only goes in about three inches and is very safe0
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A very informative YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oHg5SJYRHA00
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drmerc, people fear what they don't understand......make sure you go to a certified hydrotherapist and you learn so much...on how to eat, and you will change how you live your life. It's a great experience0
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Why did you come here to attack me. I just want some opinions from people who have done this before
People here are so freaking mean! Gosh! All this poor man wants is some support - we all have to find what works for us. Maybe coffee in the *kitten* is what will work for him. We're all individuals!
Yes! Special lil snowflakes!0 -
Why did you come here to attack me. I just want some opinions from people who have done this before
People here are so freaking mean! Gosh! All this poor man wants is some support - we all have to find what works for us. Maybe coffee in the *kitten* is what will work for him. We're all individuals!
Yes! Special lil snowflakes!
Remember; you're unique and special, just like everyone else.0 -
Not to be rude to the poster...but this entire thread is friggin hilarious!
I couldn't agree more :laugh:0 -
*sings* The best part of waking up, is Foldgers up your.....
This made my day.0 -
I AM going to be called crazy for saying this, but there is actually a Cancer treatment called the Gerson Method that incorporates Coffee enemas. The documentary I saw said at the time there was one record of a Stage 4 cancer survivor (of which type of cancer I can't remember) who recovered on the Gerson method. Only person to survive stage 4 apparently. It's WAY more than coffee enemas, but those are a part of it.
Take that however you will!!!
Now back to the goofing off.
You're saying that only 1 person has ever survived (any type of) stage 4 cancer? Ever?
And they did it by getting coffee enemas?
Whaaattt?
No. The therapy supposedly has a good success rate specifically with metastatic melanoma. Gerson's original book from the '50's documents 50 of his best cases. The Gerson Institute has documentation of many more. They're cagey with real success rates, though. But then so are most oncologist clinics and cancer centers.
The Gerson Therapy does not use or recommend colonics or colon hydrotherapy. It uses coffee enemas instead. The purpose/theory isn't to cleanse the colon but rather to deliver caffeine directly to the liver. I think you'll be hard pressed to find any kind of semi-serious argument for colonics or colon hydrotherapy except in cases of extreme constipation. The Gerson coffee enemas are supposed to stimulate the liver and the gallbladder to dump lots of bile (containing cholesterol and toxins) into the digestive tract. In the beginning it also tends to liberate gall stones.
The Gerson therapy defines a toxin as "anything that is an enzyme inhibitor." You can think of it as "anything that impedes normal, healthy biochemical reactions." The idea that we "don't have toxins in our body" is silly. After all, what do you have a liver, kidneys, and lymphatic system for? I don't see how anyone can suggest with a straight face that these systems are always operating at peak efficiency no matter what you put in your body. There's also no reason to think it's impossible to overwhelm these systems (even if only temporarily). Haven't you ever had a hangover or been septic with a bad flu?
That being said there are 3 documented cases of patients dying from coffee enemas. These treatments mess with your electrolyte balance and the deaths were probably due to the high frequency of enemas demanded by the cancer protocol. I've just done research and don't know if any of this works the way it's claimed to. I'm too chicken to stick anything up my but to find out.
See! I'm not the only one who saw that documentary!0 -
only goes in about three inches and is very safe
I'm gonna use this one0 -
Not if you want to get laid.only goes in about three inches and is very safe
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Colon health is very important to overall health. Colon hydrotherapy can have some real benefits as with any thing, done in moderation. I have had colonics in the past and they have definitely made me feel lighter. I would suggest just water to begin wih so that you know how your body reacts. Also check out the person doing the therapy and see if they have some reviews. Just saying.0
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http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/gerson/patientI AM going to be called crazy for saying this, but there is actually a Cancer treatment called the Gerson Method that incorporates Coffee enemas. The documentary I saw said at the time there was one record of a Stage 4 cancer survivor (of which type of cancer I can't remember) who recovered on the Gerson method. Only person to survive stage 4 apparently. It's WAY more than coffee enemas, but those are a part of it.
Take that however you will!!!
Now back to the goofing off.
http://www.quackwatch.com/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=gerson
I have done a lot of research on Max Gerson and curing diseases with nutrition and therapy, he was able to cure certain cancers with juicing, nutrition, and enemas are part of it. This is a holistic approach so you will not find MEDICAL doctors supporting this. Anything holistic will not be found in medical research or journals, they do not promote healing naturally, you would need to research yourself.
Comes down to if you believe in holistic medicine or not. It has been very successful for many people and I personally believe nutrition is the most important thing when it comes to illness and disease.
Check out the Gerson Miracle, Food Matters - quite a bit a information about him.
You go right ahead if you get cancer and treat it with juicing and enemas. :flowerforyou:
The Gerson Institute has cured many people of cancer, I wouldn't make it seem like it is a ridiculous thing. Chemo and Radiation are not the end all be all of cancer treatment. And these things are part of the program, not the only things that cure cancer. Just because you may not believe in holistic medicine doesn't mean it is crap.
Like I said to each his own, either you believe in holistics or you don't.
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The Gerson Institute has cured many people of cancer, I wouldn't make it seem like it is a ridiculous thing. Chemo and Radiation are not the end all be all of cancer treatment. And these things are part of the program, not the only things that cure cancer. Just because you may not believe in holistic medicine doesn't mean it is crap.
Like I said to each his own, either you believe in holistics or you don't.
I believe that diet and exercise and other healthy habits (and not smoking, drinking too much, etc.) can help prevent disease.
I don't believe that shiving coffee up my butt will cure cancer.
Just to add: My grandmother was a doctor who died from colon cancer that metasticized (sp?) to her liver. She was willing to try any and every treatment available and I guarantee if she had any inkling that something like that might actually work, she would have done it. She was in med school about the time Gersen was testifying before Congress, so I'm sure she was aware of the treatment.
I never said it would cure cancer, it is part of the program they do. People are closely monitored at this Institute, again enemas are not the main part of the treatment. I quoted the post from the girl about Gerson, not the OP about the coffee enemas. Simply stating that most people in the medical field do not believe in holistics nor have many been educated all that much on nutrition. I know plenty of Dr's that know nothing much about it.
I am not going to knock a treatment that has been very successful with curing people of cancer just because I may not believe it to be true. I do believe it, so I support it. This approach is ALL about proper nutrition, which is what a lot of holistic approaches are all about. Same as Diet and Exercise. They don't use "pills" to cure you, your body does that itself when you treat it right, I would rather believe in this approach (and have seen the benefits of holistics for myself) than to pop pills that will maybe help.
Like I said, not trying to argue with you, I believe in holistic medicine, I am assuming you do not. That is the great thing about having your own opinion. You may not agree with my views but there are a lot that do. I will just agree to disagree. :happy:0 -
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You want to pay extra to put coffee up your butt? wouldnt it be easier to just drink it?
It will remove my toxins
What toxins? Have you had levels checked? Or is it just the line the scam artists like to use about "toxins from polluted air, water, processed foods, etc?" Your liver detoxifies you on a daily basis and those that claim things "remove toxins" have zero knowledge of toxicology and how the body actually works.
Trust me, you're not full of toxins.
My holistic doctor checked me and said I was full of toxins
Have you consider doing juicing instead of colon hydrotherapy? It can still help eliminate the "toxic" that your holistic doctor talked about.0 -
The colon hydrotherapy only goes in about three inches and is very safe
The colon is impervious to puncture wounds? Wow, so perforated bowel is a medical myth?
"If the equipment is not adequately sterilized between treatments, disease germs from one person's large intestine can be transmitted to others. Several outbreaks of serious infections have been reported, including one in which contaminated equipment caused amebiasis in 36 people, 6 of whom died following bowel perforation [7-9]. Cases of heart failure (from excessive fluid absorption into the bloodstream) and electrolyte imbalance have also been reported [10]. Direct rectal perforation has also been reported [11]. Yet no license or training is required to operate a colonic-irrigation device. In 1985, a California judge ruled that colonic irrigation is an invasive medical procedure that may not be performed by chiropractors and the California Health Department's Infectious Disease Branch stated: "The practice of colonic irrigation by chiropractors, physical therapists, or physicians should cease. Colonic irrigation can do no good, only harm." The National Council Against Health Fraud agrees [12].
Amebiasis associated with colonic irrigation - Colorado. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report 30:101-102, 1981.
Istre GR and others. An outbreak of amebiasis spread by colonic irrigation at a chiropractic clinic. New England Journal of Medicine 307:339-342, 1982.
Benjamin R and others. The case against colonic irrigation. California Morbidity, Sept 27, 1985.
Eisele JW, Reay DT. Deaths related to coffee enemas. JAMA 244:1608-1609, 1980.
Handley DV and others. Rectal perforation from colonic irrigation administered by alternative practitioners. Medical Journal of Australia 181:575-576, 2004.
Jarvis WT. Colonic Irrigation. National Council Against Health Fraud, 1995."
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And as I said before, if you get cancer, you go right ahead and treat it with diet and colonics. :flowerforyou:The Gerson Institute has cured many people of cancer, I wouldn't make it seem like it is a ridiculous thing. Chemo and Radiation are not the end all be all of cancer treatment. And these things are part of the program, not the only things that cure cancer. Just because you may not believe in holistic medicine doesn't mean it is crap.
Like I said to each his own, either you believe in holistics or you don't.
I believe that diet and exercise and other healthy habits (and not smoking, drinking too much, etc.) can help prevent disease.
I don't believe that shiving coffee up my butt will cure cancer.
Just to add: My grandmother was a doctor who died from colon cancer that metasticized (sp?) to her liver. She was willing to try any and every treatment available and I guarantee if she had any inkling that something like that might actually work, she would have done it. She was in med school about the time Gersen was testifying before Congress, so I'm sure she was aware of the treatment.
I never said it would cure cancer, it is part of the program they do. People are closely monitored at this Institute, again enemas are not the main part of the treatment. I quoted the post from the girl about Gerson, not the OP about the coffee enemas. Simply stating that most people in the medical field do not believe in holistics nor have many been educated all that much on nutrition. I know plenty of Dr's that know nothing much about it.
I am not going to knock a treatment that has been very successful with curing people of cancer just because I may not believe it to be true. I do believe it, so I support it. This approach is ALL about proper nutrition, which is what a lot of holistic approaches are all about. Same as Diet and Exercise. They don't use "pills" to cure you, your body does that itself when you treat it right, I would rather believe in this approach (and have seen the benefits of holistics for myself) than to pop pills that will maybe help.
Like I said, not trying to argue with you, I believe in holistic medicine, I am assuming you do not. That is the great thing about having your own opinion. You may not agree with my views but there are a lot that do. I will just agree to disagree. :happy:0 -
only goes in about three inches and is very safe
I'm gonna use this one
I think you're locked into this now. Let us know how it works out.0 -
you do realize that when you drown, you're dead, right? there's no treatment for dead. especially not smoke up the *kitten*.You do realise a smoke enema used to be the treatment for drowning right?0 -
He may have trouble getting the juicer spout up his butt...
Have you consider doing juicing instead of colon hydrotherapy? It can still help eliminate the "toxic" that your holistic doctor talked about.
My holistic doctor checked me and said I was full of toxins
It will remove my toxinsYou want to pay extra to put coffee up your butt? wouldnt it be easier to just drink it?
What toxins? Have you had levels checked? Or is it just the line the scam artists like to use about "toxins from polluted air, water, processed foods, etc?" Your liver detoxifies you on a daily basis and those that claim things "remove toxins" have zero knowledge of toxicology and how the body actually works.
Trust me, you're not full of toxins.0 -
I use canola oil, which is poison, which kills. So I've died many times, yet here I am.
you do realize that when you drown, you're dead, right? there's no treatment for dead. especially not smoke up the *kitten*.You do realise a smoke enema used to be the treatment for drowning right?
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only goes in about three inches and is very safe
I'm gonna use this one
I'd ask for a good 7-8 inch penetration with vibration to correct your chacra. Nothing like getting rid of toxins and enjoying yourself at the same time. It's good for you. I mean the 8 inch with vibration part.
You all are so mean! She just wants coffee in her *kitten*! Lol.0 -
you do realize that when you drown, you're dead, right? there's no treatment for dead. especially not smoke up the *kitten*.You do realise a smoke enema used to be the treatment for drowning right?
There are treatments, but the success rate is pretty poor. Depends how long you have been suffering from dead and how advanced your case is.0 -
The colon hydrotherapy only goes in about three inches and is very safe
only?
I don't take less than 5.....**kicks rocks**0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:The colon hydrotherapy only goes in about three inches and is very safe
only?
I don't take less than 5.....**kicks rocks**0 -
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