Negative calorie foods

evdenapoli
evdenapoli Posts: 164 Member
in Food and Nutrition
I'm curious...do you log zero calorie foods in your diary? Are we supposed to?
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  • jibber_jammer
    jibber_jammer Posts: 8
    I log everything I eat. EVERYTHING. Even if I taste my MIL soup or something, I log it. Keeps me honest.
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    Do you have to eat back calories lost from negative calorie foods?
  • evdenapoli
    evdenapoli Posts: 164 Member
    I log everything I eat. EVERYTHING. Even if I taste my MIL soup or something, I log it. Keeps me honest.


    I log everything too... but someone mentioned it wasn't worth to log zero negative...so i'm curious
  • evdenapoli
    evdenapoli Posts: 164 Member
    Do you have to eat back calories lost from negative calorie foods?


    Good question. LOL!
    Was that a rhetorical question? lol
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    When you look up your food on MFP, are they showing you negative calories? If so, I'd like a screenshot, please.
  • evdenapoli
    evdenapoli Posts: 164 Member
    When you look up your food on MFP, are they showing you negative calories? If so, I'd like a screenshot, please.



    No?:huh:
  • cmcollins001
    cmcollins001 Posts: 3,472 Member
    Do you have to eat back calories lost from negative calorie foods?

    I want to know this too.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    There is no such thing as a negative calorie food. Food has calories, even if they are very few.
  • ashdawg8790
    ashdawg8790 Posts: 819 Member
    I have never heard of such foods. What are they? Can they be found on this planet? I will eat them all day long, since all the food I log adds calories to my diary, not subtracts them!
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    There are no negative calorie foods. Food has CALORIES. Log them or don't be surprised when your scale doesn't show any results.
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    Water would be the only zero calorie food I can think of other than diet sodas.
  • jeremyw1977
    jeremyw1977 Posts: 505 Member
    I'm curious...do you log zero calorie foods in your diary? Are we supposed to?

    This is what we call a myth.
    I know what you are talking about, and this theory has been disproven over and over again.

    That's like saying ice cold water has negative calories. The water itself has 0 calories, but because it's ice cold, the body expends energy to warm it up to body temperature, thereby burning calories.

    It sounds nice in theory, but it's different in practice.
  • RunnerInVT
    RunnerInVT Posts: 226 Member
    A gallon of water weighs appx 8 pounds. If you drink it all and dont pee you will weigh 8 pounds more. :)
  • evdenapoli
    evdenapoli Posts: 164 Member
    I have never heard of such foods. What are they? Can they be found on this planet? I will eat them all day long, since all the food I log adds calories to my diary, not subtracts them!


    i've looked into it..read quite a bit about it.
    seems to exist :smile:
  • evdenapoli
    evdenapoli Posts: 164 Member
    :
    I'm curious...do you log zero calorie foods in your diary? Are we supposed to?

    This is what we call a myth.
    I know what you are talking about, and this theory has been disproven over and over again.

    That's like saying ice cold water has negative calories. The water itself has 0 calories, but because it's ice cold, the body expends energy to warm it up to body temperature, thereby burning calories.

    It sounds nice in theory, but it's different in practice.


    Thanks! I appreciate your input!
  • Dee_31
    Dee_31 Posts: 10 Member
    Some lettuce would be one ( like a leaf of lettuce) :)
  • cmcollins001
    cmcollins001 Posts: 3,472 Member
    I have never heard of such foods. What are they? Can they be found on this planet? I will eat them all day long, since all the food I log adds calories to my diary, not subtracts them!


    i've looked into it..read quite a bit about it.
    seems to exist :smile:

    People still say that about bigfoot too, even got it's own show...still not buying it.
  • PeriwinklePineapple
    PeriwinklePineapple Posts: 31 Member
    I log everything, except for black coffee.
  • tymberh
    tymberh Posts: 67 Member
    Everything has calories!!

    BUT,

    Some foods are so few in calories, it takes more calories (or same amount of calories) to burn and digest the food than there are calories in the food.

    Examples...

    Fruits

    apple
    cranberries
    grapefruit
    lemon
    mango
    orange
    pineapple
    raspberries
    strawberries
    tangerine

    Vegetables

    asparagus
    beet
    broccoli
    cabbage (green)
    carrot
    cauliflower
    celery
    Chile peppers (hot)
    cucumber
    dandelion
    endive
    garden cress
    garlic
    green beans
    lettuce
    onion
    papaya
    radishes
    spinach
    turnip
  • micls
    micls Posts: 234
    The part that makes it 'negative calorie' e.g. your body using energy to burn it, is already counted in your TDEE.

    If you don't count the calories in the food, you're counting that energy twice.

    Say there's 5 cals in a stick of celery. Log it as 5 cals. Your body might use 7 cals to process it, but that's already counted in your daily burn in TDEE. If you don't log the 5cals you're 5 cals off.

    Not a huge difference in practical terms, but it's not worthless.
  • TyFit08
    TyFit08 Posts: 799 Member
    Isn't celery a negative calorie food
  • Chrissy180
    Chrissy180 Posts: 30 Member
    I log everything, that way I don't have to worry about it. I also like to keep up with my Vitamin intake. For example, I'm not eating enough potassium and realized that's probably why I have been having leg cramps! So it can have it upsides to log everything.
  • getupngo2013
    getupngo2013 Posts: 8 Member
    I think the point is to realize what, how much, and when you consume things. Then you can work on reproducing those better days, evaluate when you get the hungriest, etc. So, I think it's worth posting up there. :wink:
  • arc918
    arc918 Posts: 2,037 Member
    Why do you people hate science?
  • ajourney2beme
    ajourney2beme Posts: 181 Member
    I have never heard of such foods. What are they? Can they be found on this planet? I will eat them all day long, since all the food I log adds calories to my diary, not subtracts them!


    i've looked into it..read quite a bit about it.
    seems to exist :smile:

    People still say that about bigfoot too, even got it's own show...still not buying it.

    +1
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    Everything has calories!!

    BUT,

    Some foods are so few in calories, it takes more calories (or same amount of calories) to burn and digest the food than there are calories in the food.

    Examples...

    Fruits

    apple
    cranberries
    grapefruit
    lemon
    mango
    orange
    pineapple
    raspberries
    strawberries
    tangerine

    Vegetables

    asparagus
    beet
    broccoli
    cabbage (green)
    carrot
    cauliflower
    celery
    Chile peppers (hot)
    cucumber
    dandelion
    endive
    garden cress
    garlic
    green beans
    lettuce
    onion
    papaya
    radishes
    spinach
    turnip
    Nnno.

    http://caloriecount.about.com/negative-calories-myth-explained-b349703

    http://www.acefitness.org/blog/695/do-negative-calorie-foods-really-exist


    Here's an excerpt from an actual science-based article which debunks the "negative calorie foods" scam:
    The thermic effect of food (TEF, also known as specific dynamic action or SDA or Dietary Induced Thermogenesis or DIT) refers to the slight bump in metabolic rate that occurs after eating, due to processing and utilization of the ingested nutrients. For example, protein has to be broken down and processed in the liver which requires energy. As well, the simple act of eating protein stimulates protein synthesis in various tissues (organs, liver, muscle) as well. All of which takes energy. Carbohydrates get broken down to glucose, which goes through the liver, some processing, etc. Fat undergoes the least processing. There are exceptions such as medium chain triglycerides (MCTs) which undergo quite a bit of processing in the liver, causing a slight bump in metabolic rate (via TEF) in the process.

    As it turns out, different nutrients have different individual TEF’s. Protein turns out to have the highest, to the tune of 20-30%. Meaning that of the total protein calories you eat, 20-30% is lost in processing. Carbohydrate stored as glycogen requires about 5-6% of the total calories. Carbohydrate converted to fat (which generally doesn’t happen in very significant amounts) uses up ~23% of the total calories as TEF. Most fats have a tiny TEF, maybe 2-3% (because they can be stored as fat in fat cells with minimal processing).

    As stated above, the TEF of carbohydrates is approximately 5-6%. A 4-inch stalk of celery contains somewhere around 3 calories. The TEF will total up to 0.18 calories at most, leaving a net intake of 2.82 calories. Negligible, but it's not "negative calories". A large apple contains around 110 calories. The TEF will total up to just under 7 calories (6.6), leaving a net intake of 103.4 calories. Definitely NOT negative calories.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    As far as I know, ground unicorn hoof is the only negative calorie food, but it's very hard to come by, very expensive, and very perishable. It goes rancid very quickly. Nevertheless, I always put some in my shakes. Now you know my secret.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    As far as I know, ground unicorn hoof is the only negative calorie food, but it's very hard to come by, very expensive, and very perishable. It goes rancid very quickly. Nevertheless, I always put some in my shakes. Now you know my secret.
    I gotta get me some of dat dere unicorn hoof, bruh! Think they'll have it on the shelf at GNC next to the raspberry ketones and green coffee bean extract???
  • Pepper2185
    Pepper2185 Posts: 994 Member
    If I only eat negative calorie foods, at what point will I weigh negative pounds???

    Damn I'm gonna be sooo skinny!

    *eye rolls*
  • amonkey794
    amonkey794 Posts: 651 Member
    The part that makes it 'negative calorie' e.g. your body using energy to burn it, is already counted in your TDEE.

    If you don't count the calories in the food, you're counting that energy twice.

    Say there's 5 cals in a stick of celery. Log it as 5 cals. Your body might use 7 cals to process it, but that's already counted in your daily burn in TDEE. If you don't log the 5cals you're 5 cals off.

    Not a huge difference in practical terms, but it's not worthless.

    ^ This is the better explanation

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