Father brings his daughter into the men's locker room
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great topic...0
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Errrr, wait. Now I feel dumb. Is the family locker room really small and just for one family to use at a time? That makes more sense.
Yes! Unless you imagine everyone in at the same time (men with their daughters/ women with their sons) which would completely defeat the purpose.0 -
i agree a young girl should not be in a room full of naked men..anything could happen
She was with her father. She wasn't alone in there.0 -
Errrr, wait. Now I feel dumb. Is the family locker room really small and just for one family to use at a time? That makes more sense.
Yes! Unless you imagine everyone in at the same time (men with their daughters/ women with their sons) which would completely defeat the purpose.
That's why I felt dumb. *blush*0 -
I soul and have had a fit if there was a 4yr old boy in the locker room. Not not a good idea and this dad had a choice to take her to a family room. If she sees her dad named at home that is not appropriate either. OUTRAGEOUS
How is that outrageous? Nudity isn't something to be ashamed of. Yes, we have laws against running around naked(although in NY women are allowed to be topless and on Fire Island you're allowed to be naked on the beaches), but come on now! Not everyone is a pervert......what if they're nudists, or hippies? The human body is nothing to be ashamed of.
[[[Nudity is certainly nothing shameful.
however that's not the world we live in. We live in a world where people deserve privacy and also some men and women really dont like children seeing THEM naked. I mean okay - maybe if it were our own parents but really, i dont want my child seeing 10 other guys butt *kitten* naked in a gym locker room (of opposite sex). It's just not right. While you may agree its okay for your children, most people arent comfortable being nude around other peoples kids, i know i certainly wouldnt - only for the sake of being respectful and graceful. My son is four, i no longer take him into the womens bathroom for the sake of other peoples opinions and how they feel about privacy. Some people are super private. i do admit that women are more softer about this as we are mostly all moms. however I do believe that with little girls, it is a whole new scenario. I REALLY wouldnt want my 4 year old daughter in the mens locker room! ick!]]]
i don't like being naked period but i don't want a kid to see me. it my right it does say mens room for a reason. i don't like my body but i'm not going home drenched in sweat either. sure kids don't understand but what about us guys who have no kids. its just wrong when you have a family room0 -
well find the sign that says family room... like people in wheelchairs do not have to pee there pants, children do not either.. there is bathrooms for people who have a wheelchair/walker etc..and for FAMILIES...
I have never been into a restaurant with a family restroom. Or a grocery store for that matter, unless we are talking about Walmart. Or a movie theater. Or most other places that I can think of. Walmart, that's all I could come up with. Your kid must have a bladder of steel compared to my boys!!! When they have to go... they have to GO NOW!0 -
Errrr, wait. Now I feel dumb. Is the family locker room really small and just for one family to use at a time? That makes more sense.
Haha! I don't know anything about the family rooms either! You might be right though. The family bathrooms at the mall are just private bathrooms.0 -
I'm in the "I don't see what the big deal is" camp. I get the whole decency and privacy argument and I admit that I'm not thrilled when I see little boys in the women's locker room. But seriously, I give it less than a few seconds thought. And I can't honestly believe that a child - even four years old - is going to scarred for life because they see random body parts. It just ain't that serious.0
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well find the sign that says family room... like people in wheelchairs do not have to pee there pants, children do not either.. there is bathrooms for people who have a wheelchair/walker etc..and for FAMILIES...
There is only ONE location I have seen a family room and it was at a mall.
Family rooms are not everywhere.
Usually there is a handicap stall IN the regular men or women restroom.0 -
i agree a young girl should not be in a room full of naked men..anything could happen
No... nothing really happens. Bunch of naked old men with balls hanging down to their knees are walking around and bunch of young guys are trying to find the quietest corner and avoiding eye contact and putting on clothes. This is about the extent of male locker room.
The point of the thread is, that even at the small age of 4, many people do not want girls in the locker room. Not because "anything could happen" but rather because whats happening isn't suitable for a 4 years old girl.0 -
typically there is family rooms, and if not then he/she is not purposely ignoring the family sign... i think the gross thing about this situation is there was family rooms and he decided to take her into a MANS CHANGING ROOM... with naked men walking around... it was not an "oh my word she has to pee and there is no where else to go" type of situation..0
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Not sure if insane, but you're waaaay overreacting. Suck it up and cover yourself with a towel. Either way, 4 year old are not traumatized for life by seeing the human form. And neither are the adults that are seen by them.
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i agree a young girl should not be in a room full of naked men..anything could happen
She was with her father. She wasn't alone in there.
Bingo! So if the family rooms are full (this never happens, right?!) you send your 4 year old into the women's locker room all by herself. Oh that's so much better! Sorry, I have 2 young daughters. These issues come up like every day.0 -
Not sure if insane, but you're waaaay overreacting. Suck it up and cover yourself with a towel. Either way, 4 year old are not traumatized for life by seeing the human form. And neither are the adults that are seen by them.
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I assume there was a reason the child was there (a pool or something?) in which case no biggie. My dad used to take me in with him when I was a kid as I used to go to the pool with him, my mum can't swim, so I would have to go get changed with him, can't send small children away to change on their own. No different to mums bringing their sons in the womens changing rooms. We don't have family changing rooms here though so I don't know what they are all about.0
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Not sure if insane, but you're waaaay overreacting. Suck it up and cover yourself with a towel. Either way, 4 year old are not traumatized for life by seeing the human form. And neither are the adults that are seen by them.
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Your daughter will learn your discomfort with the human body. She's 4. Right now she doesn't even know what vaginas and penises are all about. If you make it a bad thing, she will think it's a bad thing. Just saying.0
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Nailed it.Not sure if insane, but you're waaaay overreacting. Suck it up and cover yourself with a towel. Either way, 4 year old are not traumatized for life by seeing the human form. And neither are the adults that are seen by them.
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typically there is family rooms, and if not then he/she is not purposely ignoring the family sign... i think the gross thing about this situation is there was family rooms and he decided to take her into a MANS CHANGING ROOM... with naked men walking around... it was not an "oh my word she has to pee and there is no where else to go" type of situation..
There are often no family rooms...and often a long line up since its 1 family room per family. I'm not willing to wait 15minutes for a room and my 5 year old son does not make an issue out of seeing naked people because he has seen it.0 -
Also, I'd like to point out that if it was a woman bringing her 4 year old son into a women's locker room, there wouldn't be nearly as large of an uproar.0
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I do not understand why some people clearly ignore the family rooms ? why purposely have your lil girl walking around with men who have there junk out... honestly people ewww
Genitalia aren't gross. Sure they're not pretty, but they're not "icky". They're body parts.0 -
I was raised by a solo father.... what was he suppose to do take me into the female room? that would have gone down a treat I'm sure .0
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This whole thread seems a tad hypocritical. If a 4 year old boy was brought into the women's locker room, no one would be throwing a fit like they are now.0
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I'd only feel uncomfortable being naked in front of kids just cuz they stare. My own kids do this! I don't feel uncomfortable being naked in front of kids cuz I think the sight of my nude body will forever be tattooed on their brains.0
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No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.0
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I don't see the big deal. She's 4.
I've seen women take their young boys around that age into the women's locker room and I didn't even consider it wrong.
Maybe it's because I'm a mom and I'm use to taking my kid everyone with me as well.
I see it almost the same as if I were taking my son to use the women's bathroom because I obviously wouldn't trust my young child to manage on his own in the men's restroom.
while i agree about the bathroom thing (only because you can SEE anything in the bathroom unless someones stripping outside the stalls or something lol), i think its terribly wrong to take his 4 year old DAUGHTER into the MENS locker room where grown men are naked. Personally, if i had a son, i wouldnt bring them into the womans locker room if there was a family locker room open. I don't think its appropriate for children to see explicit things before they are ready. (meaning children are NEVER ready to see explicit things. O.O Kids shouldnt be watching strange men undress at ANY age.) Now that being said, you may argue that skin is skin. yes, skin is skin, but different parts of the body (different types of skin) are used for different types of things. & they very from gender to gender. Each person is different, i understand that, but i think that he did what was right.0 -
gross!!! It's not even about seeing the naked men for that matter...but why would you expose your 4 y/o to that type of bacteria???0
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I also have to add that I take issue with this tendency to automatically view men as dangerous, sexual deviants. Why is it so taboo for a little girl to go in a men's locker room and it's a non issue for a little boy to go in a women's locker room. And that's garbage about women being maternal. There are plenty of sick and disturbed women walking around every day. I'm really bothered by the double standard.0
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I am in the "no biggie" boat on this, because bodies are bodies, and it's all just skin. HOWEVER, if there are family locker rooms, he should use them, and considering the fact that he's now done this twice (that you know of), I'd say he's making the wrong choice.
I used to go to a city rec center that didn't have family locker rooms, and everyone brought their kids in, and everyone was prepared for it and dealt with it. I can totally understand how, if there are family locker rooms available, men are not prepared and caught off guard by a child being in the locker room, so your frustration is acceptable.
What!? You are ridiculous. My 4 year old daughter does not need to see a bunch of D**ks in a locker room. Disgusting.
Please tell me - what is disgusting about a penis? Do you have one (I didn't check your profile)? And clearly you don't think they're that disgusting if you have a daughter and you're a woman...
The human body is never disgusting, and it's people who are shameful and appalled by the human form that perpetuate self image issues in their children. I feel sorry for your daughter that her parent is so hateful toward the natural existence of human bodies.0 -
I also have to add that I take issue with this tendency to automatically view men as dangerous, sexual deviants. Why is it so taboo for a little girl to go in a men's locker room and it's a non issue for a little boy to go in a women's locker room. And that's garbage about women being maternal. There are plenty of sick and disturbed women walking around every day. I'm really bothered by the double standard.
Agreed.0
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