Who else isn't afraid of consuming fat?

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  • droneofvelvet
    droneofvelvet Posts: 290 Member
    I notice when I eat fatty foods even under 1200 calories I start maintaining or even gaining weight.

    I eat healthy fats, too like measured amounts of avocado, organic nuts and seeds, coconut oil and fatty fish like salmon and I am just not feeling it you guys. I remember at my lowest weight and most active period in my life so far I wasn't eating that much fat. To each his own I guess.
  • miss_rub
    miss_rub Posts: 8
    I eat fat, high fructose corn syrup, and everything that is bad for you (I also LOVE fruit and veggies, but that's besides the point). Somehow I have managed to lose 58 pounds, and not starve at that ridiculous 1200 calories that people insist is what they need to lose weight. Instead of ordering a LARGE this or a LARGE that, order off the kids menu and let your stomach shrink. Its about moderation and moving your *kitten*. So simple. If I of all people can do it, I feel no sympathy for others who say they can't.
  • JO4IT
    JO4IT Posts: 79 Member
    Okay I understand what is being said here about some of the so-called low fat foods simply being high in sugar. So what do you set your macros at for sugar percentage per day?
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I eat fat, high fructose corn syrup, and everything that is bad for you (I also LOVE fruit and veggies, but that's besides the point). Somehow I have managed to lose 58 pounds, and not starve at that ridiculous 1200 calories that people insist is what they need to lose weight. Instead of ordering a LARGE this or a LARGE that, order off the kids menu and let your stomach shrink. Its about moderation and moving your *kitten*. So simple. If I of all people can do it, I feel no sympathy for others who say they can't.

    I would agree that, ultimately, it is "calories in-calories out" but the proportion of each macro is important to overall appetite control. Eating lower-carb (and by that, I mean somewhere between 75-150 grams--more if exercising a lot) will give better appetite control than eating a lot of simple carbs and sugar. I did the low-fat/no-fat thing for a while and found that I was starving all the time and ended up worse than where I started. I have been on the lower-carb plan for two years and just have made it a part of my lifestyle. To date, I have lost 52 pounds and have not had any period of regain in all that time (not even over the holidays). I continue to lose about .5 to1 pound per week--week in and week out. This is unprecedented for me, as I was always a yo-yo dieter before I learned to feed my body correctly (for me). I feel better than I have felt in a long time and I don't even get my usual winter colds and flu. I still have at least 30 pounds to lose, but I know that I will eventually get there.
  • thankyou4thevenom
    thankyou4thevenom Posts: 1,581 Member
    Nothing wrong with a nice blue brie toasty.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Okay I understand what is being said here about some of the so-called low fat foods simply being high in sugar. So what do you set your macros at for sugar percentage per day?

    Unfortunately, MFP does not keep track of the various types of sugar so I have to manually keep track of it. I try to keep my fructose below 25 grams per day (the amount in a couple of pieces of fruit and a couple of fructose-rich vegetables like tomatoes or carrots). Since table sugar (sucrose) is 50% fructose, it is obviously out for me. I eat no other sugars except what is in the food itself (dairy has galactose). The only exception is that on my heavy exercise days, I will make my own glucose-sweetened chocolate from baker's chocolate and glucose (the industry name is "dextrose" or sometimes, "corn sugar"). I also have eliminated wheat (contains fructans which the body easily converts to fructose) and limit myself to one (or two) piece(s) of 100% rye bread per day. It also contains fructans but at a much lower level. In addition, rye contains a unique fiber that stays in the digestive tract a long time and makes you feel full. I have never known anyone who could eat more than two pieces of this heavy, dense rye bread in a sitting. If you are going to buy rye bread, it is important to buy "sourdough" raised bread.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I don't even trim it off my steak. I eat it, just as nature intended. And it's good. And my heart is still beating. And I'm losing weight like crazy.

    Yeah---they learned a long time ago that eating cholesterol does NOT raise blood cholesterol levels (the liver MAKES abundant cholesterol all by itself). Nor do high cholesterol levels create heart disease. It is cholesterol that is used by the body to put a "patch" on lesions that have formed in the blood vessels due to inflammatory processes. And that inflammation is largely caused by our crappy high carb diets. The metabolizing of table sugar, contributes greatly to forming Advanced Glycation Endproducts (the initials A,G,E are exactly what they do to your body's cells).

    Getting back to the subject of low-fat eating, it has been terrible for the national waistline (the food processors took out the fat and put in sugar and starch) and it has NOT prevented an increase in diabetes rates (many diabetes researchers say that obesity and Type II diabetes is essentially the same disease--referring to it as "diabesity"). Our ancestors ate a lot of fat (at least as much or more than most of us do) and yet they were quite thin. The difference between us and them (other than the much greater exercise they got through doing heavy manual labor) is that they didn't eat sugar. Our yearly per capita consumption of sugar went from less than 5 pounds in 1900 to 150 pounds today. We get only about 40% from eating sugary foods---the rest is hidden in processed food.

    p.s. Don't get me wrong---there is nothing wrong with healthy carbs--they have a "muscle-sparing" effect that is quite necessary if you want to build muscle. It is the amount and the type that tends to be the problem. Because simple carbs tend to be "addictive" we eat far too many of them as a proportion of our diets.

    The worst part of it is that those of us who find we are healthier on a meat-heavy diet have to either hope that most people do better with less meat or that they don't ever realize they would be healthier if they ate more meat because beef in particular is so resource intensive that there simply isn't enough to go around if everyone goes meat-based.

    Even if junk is taxed and the money is used to make healthier foods cheaper (which would be a good start) we still have that resource usage issue.

    I actually eat very little beef as I believe that the consumption of a lot of red meat contributes to my arthritis. I find that I do much better on fish, naturally raised poultry, organic eggs and raw organic milk cheeses and yogurt for my protein intake. My iron levels tend to be on the high side so eating a lot of red meat is a problem in that area too. I know a few people (and the numbers are growing) who raise chickens for meat and eggs in their back yards. It may come to that for a lot of people.
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    I'm aware that the current view is that a small-to-moderate amount of healthy fat is fine, and I don't avoid fat. But I believe that consuming fats stimulates in me a craving for much more than is healthy. So I still watch what I eat. It's pretty easy to get the recommended amount of healthy fat without half trying.
  • corneredbycorn
    corneredbycorn Posts: 267 Member
    I was happily reading through and nodding..then I saw Bulletproof coffee, didn't know what it was then another post revealed the truth.. Way no!! As a lifetime black coffee drinker that sounds like an oil slick in a mug.:noway:
    Please someone help me out with why you would do that to good coffee. Doesn't the coconut oil taste??

    Bring on the cheese and the meat and the nuts and the yummy yoghurt!

    The oils are blended in, not just melted, so the final product is very similar to a latte.
  • nexangelus
    nexangelus Posts: 2,080 Member
    Okay I understand what is being said here about some of the so-called low fat foods simply being high in sugar. So what do you set your macros at for sugar percentage per day?

    I do not track sugar, but I track carbohydrates in total.
  • Tootce01
    Tootce01 Posts: 184
    Thank you so much for starting this thread! I lost 8lbs when I first started MFP the first of this year, then I plateaued. I have stuck with my diet plan and have been working out daily but haven't lost anything for weeks and getting very frustrated. After reading this on Friday, I changed my macros and poof, 1.8 lbs gone over the weekend! I was so scared to weigh this morning after eating delicious steak the last 2 nights, I even had a few beers meeting up with friends - I was sure I gained! I was on a high protein, low carb diet years ago, felt my best, this was just the push I needed to get back to my old habits!! :wink:
  • wibutterflymagic
    wibutterflymagic Posts: 788 Member
    I don't even trim it off my steak. I eat it, just as nature intended. And it's good. And my heart is still beating. And I'm losing weight like crazy.

    Must be nice and crispy though....Mmmm.
  • sheri59
    sheri59 Posts: 3
    I agree I am not afraid of fat. I eat no lowfat foods. I drink full fat milk. If man has messed with it I don't eat it. Fat fills you up and keeps you full. Lowfat keeps you wanting. Ever since lowfat has been a craze Americans have been getting heavier. It's not working eating lowfat.
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    I was happily reading through and nodding..then I saw Bulletproof coffee, didn't know what it was then another post revealed the truth.. Way no!! As a lifetime black coffee drinker that sounds like an oil slick in a mug.:noway:
    Please someone help me out with why you would do that to good coffee. Doesn't the coconut oil taste??

    Bring on the cheese and the meat and the nuts and the yummy yoghurt!

    The oils are blended in, not just melted, so the final product is very similar to a latte.

    I wouldn't compare it to a latte, but it's not unpleasant.
  • jenny3073
    jenny3073 Posts: 117 Member
    I'm not. When I had a little bit more money I had a trainer/nutritionist. She said there is a major difference in types of fats and how they are digested. I eat eggs and I eat chicken thighs versus breasts because they taste better. I use butter versus margarine. As long as you keep track of the calories I don't see anything wrong with it. I would rather have good natural fat than some disgusting low calorie crap. IMO.

    I completely agree. I grew up in a house with I can't believe it's not butter, smart balance, etc... I was okay with that until I started reading more about what's actually in that stuff, now I enjoy my fats and don't feel bad about it unless I go overboard with fatty items like ice cream, cake, etc.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    I'm going home to eat bacon. Excuse me...
  • marycmeadows
    marycmeadows Posts: 1,691 Member
    I try to eat plenty of healthy fats -- coconut oil, almonds/cashews, nut butters, avocado, etc. my body responds very well to this. LOW FAT gets you pretty much nowhere but skinny fat. odd as it seems.
  • THExNEKOxCHAN
    THExNEKOxCHAN Posts: 134 Member
    I am not afraid of the good fats. I use plenty of grass-fed butter, home rendered lard, duck fat, coconut oil, and beef or lamb tallow for hot purposes. I use extra virgin olive oil for salad dressings. I drink raw, whole milk, and eat cheese. I like meat with the fat on, chicken with the skin, fatty fish, whole eggs, organ meats, and I enjoy avocados, nuts and seeds.

    I DO NOT, however, have anything to do with margarine, blended butters, vegetable oils, hydrogenated/trans fats, or processed foods.
  • valeriewxy
    valeriewxy Posts: 418 Member
    BTW, the same thing applies for alcohol. I'd rather hang with my friends, have a good time, and consume a few adult beverages than to live my last day on earth wishing I'd enjoyed life a little more and wasn't so controlled about everything. I got that from my dad - you live once. Make wise choices, but enjoy your life!

    This, definitely!! :D
  • stackhsc
    stackhsc Posts: 439 Member
    i dont care what food group it is or what its macros are. if its safe to eat, tastes good and fits into my caloric intake for the day i eat it.
  • primalfare
    primalfare Posts: 11
    Me either. I eat high-fat, mod protein, low carb. I love my healthy fats!!
  • SnicciFit
    SnicciFit Posts: 967 Member
    I am not afraid of the good fats. I use plenty of grass-fed butter, home rendered lard, duck fat, coconut oil, and beef or lamb tallow for hot purposes. I use extra virgin olive oil for salad dressings. I drink raw, whole milk, and eat cheese. I like meat with the fat on, chicken with the skin, fatty fish, whole eggs, organ meats, and I enjoy avocados, nuts and seeds.

    I DO NOT, however, have anything to do with margarine, blended butters, vegetable oils, hydrogenated/trans fats, or processed foods.

    My favorite is the "buttery spread". wth IS that??!!! LOL!
  • Heidi252
    Heidi252 Posts: 9 Member
    II used to be, before I got my gallbladder removed. :drinker:
  • tifferz_91
    tifferz_91 Posts: 282 Member
    I mostly eat the fats i've listed below.


    ❤ nuts & homemade nut butters: almond, walnut, & pecan

    ❤ olives

    ❤ organic cold-pressed & unrefined oils: grapeseed, coconut, & highest lignan liquid flax

    ❤ organic pasture butter

    ❤ organic raw full-fat cheese


    I went back to organic butter after i found out how margarines & "butter spreads" are really made :sick:

    Now i eat real organic butter, ice cream, fatty meats, & fried foods in moderation (about 2-3x a month).
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Fat does not make the human body fat. Carbs/sugar makes us fat. The animal science community knows this well. When farmers want to fatten livestock, they increase carbs for a period of time.

    We have become fat because of 100 years of our western diet which is full of carbs/sugar.

    Learn to live without sugar and a reduced carbohydrate diet based on foods only available in nature and you will be feeding your body the fuel it was designed to consume. Feed it high carbs/sugar and you end up with new diseases for Big Pharma to make and sell drugs for.

    Too many calories for our lifestyle makes us fat, regardless of the source.
  • Iwishyouwell
    Iwishyouwell Posts: 1,888 Member
    My body seems built for high fat/moderate protein/low carb eating. It feels best that way, I lose no energy, and I lose weight even with much higher calorie consumption. I don't even have to calorie count while I'm on high fat. I am not only unafraid of fat, I indulge in good sources.

    It took me many years to accept this. I'd do well on high fat/low carb, feel great, but then reintroduce carbs back in so I could have a more "normal" diet. But high carbohydrate consumption, regardless of the source, isn't good for me. It causes me weight gain and I don't feel good on it. I can eat well below my BMR on a higher carb/low fat program and still stall, or even gain.

    I have a strong family history of people who ate low fat/high carb and it lead to weight gain and Type II diabetes. I maintain perfect blood sugars by using a lifestyle of high fat combined sometimes with IFing. I have only lost control of my weight whenever I decided to introduce sugars, breads, etc back into the mix as a regular staple. Occasional use is perfectly fine, but as a lifestyle it's horrendous on my body.

    High fat is the way for me. It allows me to each MUCH more food and I feel awesome doing it.

    Too many calories for our lifestyle makes us fat, regardless of the source.

    Simply not true for everyone.

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