Bodybuilder or Powerlifter
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One of the first definitions of gross is "glaringly noticeable" or "immediately obvious." I'd venture to say that the word's origins are of that nature "a gross injustice", etc...rather than the implications we have given it in modern day of "disgusting. Kind of like "gay" or "*kitten*" -- they didn't always mean homosexual.
etymology is one of my favorite things too
Still "immediately obvious line of muscular" ?? Does that make sense?
I am willing to agree that she may not have meant what I took it to mean. I can't put words in her mouth. But i also don't think it was outside the realm of reasonableness for myself (and others) to think she was using the word "gross" the way so many do when discussing the bodies of muscular bodybuilder females.0 -
One of the first definitions of gross is "glaringly noticeable" or "immediately obvious." I'd venture to say that the word's origins are of that nature "a gross injustice", etc...rather than the implications we have given it in modern day of "disgusting. Kind of like "gay" or "*kitten*" they didn't always mean homosexual.
Pretty much what I was trying to say without negatively stating it but not everyone is going to take what I write exactly how I meant it. So I tried to correct or make more obvious that I was trying to say how much muscle not that I was trying to say she was gross. Thanks lacurandera1 for knowing that I didn't mean it negatively.0 -
One of the first definitions of gross is "glaringly noticeable" or "immediately obvious." I'd venture to say that the word's origins are of that nature "a gross injustice", etc...rather than the implications we have given it in modern day of "disgusting. Kind of like "gay" or "*kitten*" they didn't always mean homosexual.
Pretty much what I was trying to say without negatively stating it but not everyone is going to take what I write exactly how I meant it. So I tried to correct or make more obvious that I was trying to say how much muscle not that I was trying to say she was gross. Thanks lacurandera1 for knowing that I didn't mean it negatively.
Thank you for clarifying And for making me learn a new thing today! 0 -
Etymology is my favorite. I think it makes sense. But I use weird words with old meanings. I'm sort of an English/grammar dork. I think gross is an acceptable substitute for "big", as well.
Ok. We all made up. Yay! Back to the real discussion.
ETA: I totally didn't think you guys were out of line for interpreting it that way, either. It was the first thing I thought she meant until i re-read. Plus there's so many asshats here who say things like that that I think we're all a little over sensitive. lol.0 -
Etymology is my favorite. I think it makes sense. But I use weird words with old meanings. I'm sort of an English/grammar dork. I think gross is an acceptable substitute for "big", as well.
Ok. We all made up. Yay! Back to the real discussion.
powerlifting makes me gay.
*kitten* make me sick.
I think bodybuilding is also just foppish!
ETA: "*kitten*" as in the british meaning!0 -
I want to be a little chick that surprises people with my supergirl ability to lift heavy ish.
So, powerlifter.
^This! I'm not short, but 119lbs on a small frame & I wanna be really strong! I'm nothing right now tho, but working on it!I don't want to be bodybuilder-lean or fitness-competitor lean. Props to those who do, but it's not for me, in aesthetics or (especially food-related) dedication. I prefer the "off-season" look.
Same here^ I want to gain some muscle, but not TOO much.
So I wanna be strong AND look good lol0 -
Etymology is my favorite. I think it makes sense. But I use weird words with old meanings. I'm sort of an English/grammar dork. I think gross is an acceptable substitute for "big", as well.
Ok. We all made up. Yay! Back to the real discussion.
ETA: I totally didn't think you guys were out of line for interpreting it that way, either. It was the first thing I thought she meant until i re-read. Plus there's so many asshats here who say things like that that I think we're all a little over sensitive. lol.
Ha ha, I am kind of like that too, love to learn and love to read so it broadens my manner of speaking and I probably just need to be more clear and concise when I write so it is hard to take it the wrong way. Old habits die hard.
However I do want to body build and I am definitely in the mode of serious for it, powerlifting is good and all but not quite for me. I am strong enough for what I need and I moreso want to hit the fitness model look and stop there.0 -
Etymology is my favorite. I think it makes sense. But I use weird words with old meanings. I'm sort of an English/grammar dork. I think gross is an acceptable substitute for "big", as well.
Ok. We all made up. Yay! Back to the real discussion.
ETA: I totally didn't think you guys were out of line for interpreting it that way, either. It was the first thing I thought she meant until i re-read. Plus there's so many asshats here who say things like that that I think we're all a little over sensitive. lol.
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Hey! Corvus! Now yer getting the hang of things! Lol. Mighty,I feel your pain. Sometimes IRL people look at me like I'm not speaking English.0
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Currently I'm more of a bodybuilder but have been thinking about powerlifting ever since I saw the Staci article ages ago... I don't know. I just want to tone up really.0
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Currently I'm more of a bodybuilder but have been thinking about powerlifting ever since I saw the Staci article ages ago... I don't know. I just want to tone up really.
First time I've ever heard a bodybuilder say a thing like that0 -
Hey! Corvus! Now yer getting the hang of things! Lol. Mighty,I feel your pain. Sometimes IRL people look at me like I'm not speaking English.
My formal studies are in science and law, but I try to branch out to be as well rounded as possible 0 -
What's the language thing y'all speak of? Math nerd no understand.0
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This guy says that you can do both...and since he's both a prize winning bodybuilder, and a world record holding powerlifter in the 275 weight class, I'll have to agree with him.
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What's the language thing y'all speak of? Math nerd no understand.
Busy lady, I'm not too keen on math past trig (as I told Taso when he asked for lessons) but I'll try to put this into an equation for you. Gross =/= ewww. :laugh:0 -
There are guys that are doing both and having great success.
This kid stays nearly contest lean while setting these records.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CBggpEWoO8
There is also guys using heavy weights for hypertrophy work. Instead of sets of 3x10 they are using 10x3. The thought being that once nearly 100% muscle fiber activation is achieved that strength gains can only come from hypertrophy.0 -
What's the language thing y'all speak of? Math nerd no understand.
Busy lady, I'm not too keen on math past trig (as I told Taso when he asked for lessons) but I'll try to put this into an equation for you. Gross =/= ewww. :laugh:
However, as her previous post stated that too much muscles = not very feminine, I don't think it was that unexpected that interpreted her next as saying an very muscular woman was gross as in "ew".0 -
I started as a bodybuilder...............so bodybuilder. I've tried really be "powerful" with singles and doubles, but started suffering from joint issues (knees, shoulders, etc.). So I scaled back and stuck with volume training and body building. I don't regret it.
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I am a bodybuilder that trains like a powerlifter.0
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Yeah, but a little "help" makes a difference too. There aren't a lot of naturals out there over 200lbs.This guy says that you can do both...and since he's both a prize winning bodybuilder, and a world record holding powerlifter in the 275 weight class, I'll have to agree with him.
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There are guys that are doing both and having great success.
This kid stays nearly contest lean while setting these records.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CBggpEWoO8
There is also guys using heavy weights for hypertrophy work. Instead of sets of 3x10 they are using 10x3. The thought being that once nearly 100% muscle fiber activation is achieved that strength gains can only come from hypertrophy.
There are a lot of these through all of history. The problem is that the average person doesn't do well when you start comparing relative strength values. Most people just know absolute strength, which is why when you say powerlifter, they often immediately picture someone like Mark Henry in his mid 20s, or Benedikt Magnusson. Don't get me wrong, they are both extremely strong guys, but they are/were extremely fat compared to guys like Stan Efferding, Ricky Dale Crain, or even Konstantin Konstantinovs.
My personal favorite is actually Lamar Gant, who competed in the 123 and 132 weight classes in the 70s/80s. To my knowledge, he's still the only person to ever deadlift over 5x his bodyweight. He also has idiopathic scoliosis, but that obviously didn't stop him from becoming a total beast.0 -
I've been doing more of the body building thing and seeing good strength gains, but I'm moving into a power lifting routine starting next week. I also want to be the crazy short chick at the gym who picks up all the heavy things. With that I'm looking into calisthenics as a complement type thing where I can lift crazy weight and do crazy body weight exercises. In other words, I want to be the crazy chick at the gym that does the things no one would expect.0
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What's the language thing y'all speak of? Math nerd no understand.
Busy lady, I'm not too keen on math past trig (as I told Taso when he asked for lessons) but I'll try to put this into an equation for you. Gross =/= ewww. :laugh:
However, as her previous post stated that too much muscles = not very feminine, I don't think it was that unexpected that interpreted her next as saying an very muscular woman was gross as in "ew".
Agreed. And context is generally what people draw their conclusions from. I go off literal meanings bc I can't remember more than one thought/sentence at a time. :laugh:0 -
I don't plan on competing at either level, so suffice it to say that I want to look like a cross between Wolverine and Bane (The comic book versions), and as strong as I can get without having to lift for hours on end every day. Neither goal is very realistic, but as I have 100+ to lose, I've got time to refine them. In the meantime, I'll eat at a deficit, and lift like a beast and see what shakes out.0
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I'm not sure what the issue is here. We established that, whether in competition shape or not, people tend to gravitate to one "style" of training while maybe dipping into the other. We also established that this is a process that can take years and one does not look like Arnold the day they pick up a weight and do bicep curls. And that BBs tend to focus on aesthetics while PLs focus on strength. And that women don't get bulky unless they really, really try. And that if you want to look toned that cardio isn't enough and that one needs to incorporate weights in some form, and not little pink dumbbells either.Currently I'm more of a bodybuilder but have been thinking about powerlifting ever since I saw the Staci article ages ago... I don't know. I just want to tone up really.
First time I've ever heard a bodybuilder say a thing like that
So I'm not sure why my post stood out so much? I didn't say that I was already in competition shape, or that I want to be, simply that I do more of the standard 8-12 reps with a good bit of isolation exercises.0 -
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I'm not sure what the issue is here. We established that, whether in competition shape or not, people tend to gravitate to one "style" of training while maybe dipping into the other. We also established that this is a process that can take years and one does not look like Arnold the day they pick up a weight and do bicep curls. And that BBs tend to focus on aesthetics while PLs focus on strength. And that women don't get bulky unless they really, really try. And that if you want to look toned that cardio isn't enough and that one needs to incorporate weights in some form, and not little pink dumbbells either.Currently I'm more of a bodybuilder but have been thinking about powerlifting ever since I saw the Staci article ages ago... I don't know. I just want to tone up really.
First time I've ever heard a bodybuilder say a thing like that
So I'm not sure why my post stood out so much? I didn't say that I was already in competition shape, or that I want to be, simply that I do more of the standard 8-12 reps with a good bit of isolation exercises.
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Bodybuilders don't only lift in the 'hypertrophy' range and do different curl variations all day. They also aren't in competition shape year round, they prep for meets too.
Powerlifters aren't all fat f***s that get gassed after a set of 4, many do work in the 'hypertrophy' range as well.0 -
Yeah, but a little "help" makes a difference too. There aren't a lot of naturals out there over 200lbs.
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? Maybe for short guys.
200 lbs is not all that much weight for a 6'+ guy.0
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