"Real" Women

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  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    It's only harmful when one takes it as harmful.

    Exactly.she's taking this off another thread.The person who said it meant it in the sense of "average american woman" real because,the fact remains the average Amercian woman is "overweight" at a size 14 or above.A bunch of snarky,bandwaggoners jumped on and changed the subject of the thread because they had nothing remotly supportive to say to the original poster.
    It's not an ok thing to say. It's rude. And I'd jump on it again.
    If you are a person looking for motivation and support but putting others down at the same time...
    Well good luck.
    It's senseless. Body shaming is senseless, especially when in the same breath you are complaining about how you are treated.
  • foxro
    foxro Posts: 793 Member
    Is the glass half empty or half full, heck maybe its not a real glass at all but a container -too much lol
  • AJ_Pete
    AJ_Pete Posts: 863 Member
    a real woman has a vagina

    I've met some real women without them.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    It's only harmful when one takes it as harmful.

    Exactly.she's taking this off another thread.The person who said it meant it in the sense of "average american woman" real because,the fact remains the average Amercian woman is "overweight" at a size 14 or above.A bunch of snarky,bandwaggoners jumped on and changed the subject of the thread because they had nothing remotly supportive to say to the original poster.
    It's not an ok thing to say. It's rude. And I'd jump on it again.
    If you are a person looking for motivation and support but putting others down at the same time...
    Well good luck.
    It's senseless. Body shaming is senseless, especially when in the same breath you are complaining about how you are treated.

    So what about the other women of other countries? lol. Look...so what. The original post for "this thread" still holds true. And I agree...body shaming is body shaming. Too often I've seen the phrase used by those with "meat on their bones" or women who are "curvy" to "love themselves"...but why you have to do it at the expense of other women who don't share your body shape, type, weight...etc??? Doesn't make sense.
  • __RANDY__
    __RANDY__ Posts: 1,036 Member
    Get your butt back here and get back on that soap box! (here is where I would insert a clapping smiley face if there were one)

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  • etoiles_argentees
    etoiles_argentees Posts: 2,827 Member
    It's only harmful when one takes it as harmful.

    Exactly.she's taking this off another thread.The person who said it meant it in the sense of "average american woman" real because,the fact remains the average Amercian woman is "overweight" at a size 14 or above.A bunch of snarky,bandwaggoners jumped on and changed the subject of the thread because they had nothing remotly supportive to say to the original poster.

    Didn't harm me at all. Why would I say something if I don't believe in it? I don't believe the definition of "real woman" is being over 200 pounds. Why would someone support the op if she's making incorrect assumptions? What she thinks she observed and what she concluded might be incorrect.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    It's total bull****.
  • jbutterflye
    jbutterflye Posts: 1,914 Member
    I confess...I've been faking it all this time.:blushing:
  • etoiles_argentees
    etoiles_argentees Posts: 2,827 Member
    Only those with low self-esteem take body image as a zero-sum game.

    I wish I could claim that statement as my own, but I read it ages ago on another forum. Regardless, I think it applies to the Real Women Have Curves, HAES, fat acceptance....basically any campaign that causes one group to complain, "But what about me?"

    Real Women Have Curves was just a marketing ploy used years ago to sell Lane Bryant. The stores cost more than they were profitable, so.....in comes the rest of Limited Inc. to try and save the chain because it had already been put up for sale and there were no buyers. The plan was scrapped more than once but in desperation they used it. They were targeting the middle class, middle aged masses of the U.S.. It was just $.
  • foxro
    foxro Posts: 793 Member
    Only those with low self-esteem take body image as a zero-sum game.

    I wish I could claim that statement as my own, but I read it ages ago on another forum. Regardless, I think it applies to the Real Women Have Curves, HAES, fat acceptance....basically any campaign that causes one group to complain, "But what about me?"

    Real Women Have Curves was just a marketing ploy used years ago to sell Lane Bryant. The stores cost more than they were profitable, so.....in comes the rest of Limited Inc. to try and save the chain because it had already been put up for sale and there were no buyers. The plan was scrapped more than once but in desperation they used it. They were targeting the middle class, middle aged masses of the U.S.. It was just $.

    Thanks I was really getting messed up worrying about female Pinochios wanting to become real women out there
  • avababy05
    avababy05 Posts: 930 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.
  • MM_1982
    MM_1982 Posts: 374
    Real women sacrifice!

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  • Geeky_Girl
    Geeky_Girl Posts: 239 Member
    Spreading hate on all the imaginary women out there! Shame! :wink:

    Just kidding. I agree.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    So celebrities or those who have had cosmetic surgery aren't real women?
    And again..that was "that" thread..this is "this" thread and applies to much more than just that one thread. So stop hijacking to put the OP down for addressing a valid point.

    If you are that hung up about the reference made in another thread, then go back to that other thread and debate the reference there.
  • foxro
    foxro Posts: 793 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    Ahhhh thanks again, at one time they were called "Natural Women" now I got it ?
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
    Real woman: Lacks Y chromosome. Whether she's photo-shopped, has a high occurrence of plastic/ silicone in her body, works out , or how she acts does not matter one bit to the discussion.

    There, I hope I solved that great mystery for those of you out there that were wondering.

    *edited for typos
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
    False. I lost weight and my vagina disintegrated. True story
  • HMVOL7409
    HMVOL7409 Posts: 1,588 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    So if I have breast cancer and have reconstruction surgery, I am now not a real women based on your standards? Ok.
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    I see the term being applicable when comparing to photoshopped magazine pictures of women. Those aren't "real" women.
    I agree. In reality, they are hobbits photoshopped to appear to look like "real" women.
  • avababy05
    avababy05 Posts: 930 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    So if I have breast cancer and have reconstruction surgery, I am now not a real women based on your standards? Ok.

    That's assine.What a bunch of extremists! I obviously have to put this as simplistically as possible.

    Women who are not media created for a false ideal of beauty that is not attainable by the average, real woman.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    So if I have breast cancer and have reconstruction surgery, I am now not a real women based on your standards? Ok.

    That's assine.What a bunch of extremists! I obviously have to put this as simplistically as possible.

    Women who are not media created for a false ideal of beauty that is not attainable by the average, real woman.

    So what is the average, real woman? And if they are below or above average, are they still considered a woman?
  • spidey11186
    spidey11186 Posts: 141 Member
    I see the term being applicable when comparing to photoshopped magazine pictures of women. Those aren't "real" women.
    I agree. In reality, they are hobbits photoshopped to appear to look like "real" women.

    I know she's not a hobbit... she's an elf, rather... but I think she looks like a "Real" woman

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  • foxro
    foxro Posts: 793 Member
    I see the term being applicable when comparing to photoshopped magazine pictures of women. Those aren't "real" women.
    I agree. In reality, they are hobbits photoshopped to appear to look like "real" women.

    So Frodo and Sam had more adventrures than we are led to believe (sorry I had to)
  • HMVOL7409
    HMVOL7409 Posts: 1,588 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    So if I have breast cancer and have reconstruction surgery, I am now not a real women based on your standards? Ok.

    That's assine.What a bunch of extremists! I obviously have to put this as simplistically as possible.

    Women who are not media created for a false ideal of beauty that is not attainable by the average, real woman.

    Lol. Not an extremist just going off of what you yourself wrote! Someone who is cosmetically altered is not a real woman to you.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    That's assine.What a bunch of extremists! I obviously have to put this as simplistically as possible.

    Women who are not media created for a false ideal of beauty that is not attainable by the average, real woman.

    So, what you're saying is that we should shun the exceptional, and cling to the mediocre...got it.
  • avababy05
    avababy05 Posts: 930 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    So if I have breast cancer and have reconstruction surgery, I am now not a real women based on your standards? Ok.

    That's assine.What a bunch of extremists! I obviously have to put this as simplistically as possible.

    Women who are not media created for a false ideal of beauty that is not attainable by the average, real woman.

    So what is the average, real woman? And if they are below or above average, are they still considered a woman?

    You obviously have no idea what my point is.

    It says it all above.

    Look,I'm clearly on the side of women.I don't like to see women victimized by the media,I have three daughters myself one of whom has overcome anorexia which I feel is in part due to the image of what a female is "supposed" to look like.

    I feel the media puts the pressure on women of all sizes and shapes to look a certain way.

    I think we are all saying the same thing here.

    And the breast cancer statement,Completely out of line.You have NO idea what your talking about with that one.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    I feel the media puts the pressure on women of all sizes and shapes to look a certain way.

    I think we are all saying the same thing here.

    That women are mindless chattel who can't think for themselves? That's all I can ever get out of 'TV made me do it' arguments.
  • Lucia120382
    Lucia120382 Posts: 427
    I have a blow up doll and I treat her like a real woman.

    The best real woman out there. lol
  • avababy05
    avababy05 Posts: 930 Member
    I feel the media puts the pressure on women of all sizes and shapes to look a certain way.

    I think we are all saying the same thing here.

    That women are mindless chattel who can't think for themselves? That's all I can ever get out of 'TV made me do it' arguments.

    No, that girls are impressionable.
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
    Real women: women who are not altered by cosmetic surgery,women who are non-celebrities without the aid of personal trainers,chefs,make up artists,air brushing and all those other tricks used to make average "real"women feel bad about themselves and buy their products because we'll all be ugly without them.Average women with jobs,kids,school,lives to live.

    That is the spirit in which it was intended on the other thread in an attempt to support the OP.

    And I think you all really know that.

    So if I have breast cancer and have reconstruction surgery, I am now not a real women based on your standards? Ok.

    That's assine.What a bunch of extremists! I obviously have to put this as simplistically as possible.

    Women who are not media created for a false ideal of beauty that is not attainable by the average, real woman.

    So what is the average, real woman? And if they are below or above average, are they still considered a woman?

    Of course they aren't. You must be completely mediocre lest you threaten those with less self esteem than yourself. Don't try to be smart or charismatic either, it isn't fair to stupid dull people! And they are the real people!

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