Please stop saying everything is starvation mode...
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I have an entire hard drive full of snake pics. Who am I to criticize.:drinker:
Given the number of bacon pics I've seen on MFP, I'd bet someone has an entire hard drive full of bacon pics.Wait!!! Does someone have a gif of bacon AND ice cream? Anyone? Anyone?
You say that like it's a bad thing.0 -
I swear if I see one more thread where someone says that someone is in "starvation mode" because they missed snack 2 or are eating 1200 calories a day I am going to have a melt down.
I don't know if your issue is with people using the term "starvation mode" or just telling people they need to eat more. I have recently seen a lot of posts from people having problems losing weight because they are trying to do less than 1200 calories and exercise and the usual advice is eat more. You eat more so you have the energy to exercise but like anything everyone is different so I think this post is just confusing some people out there. That is great it works for you but most people who post and are asking for advice it is not working for so people are advising them to do something different. That is how you find out what works for you.
So making a post to tell people to stop giving advice they were giving on an individual asking for help seems like you are taking it as personal advice aimed at you when it wasn't.0 -
augustawhysee's post just before mine is a classic example of the effects of repeated starvation. If Augusta will go on a normal calorie diet for a while their BMR will increase to a healthy level and stabilize, they will gain weight during this time and it will probably take a couple of months but once everything has normalized then healthy weight loss can occur. Until your hormones stabilize you are going to find it nearly impossible to loose weight in a healthy manner.0
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i can actually feel the fat from my fat free frozen yogurt taking hold to my tissues... its cold...0
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Your dessert is very happy to see you.
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everything is starvation mode...0
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anyone who says bacon is bad will be immediately blindfolded, tortured, and shot....well maybe not tortured...
theres only 1 way to eat bacon in my house, and thats wrapped around a jalepeno stuffed with a mixture of cream cheese and sweet chili thai sauce!0 -
Here's a good article which explains it all scientific-like and stuff:WELL... you told them!!! haa hahah ... i seriously need to just stop reading forums... i was first doin 1200 cal while working out HARD 5+ times a week... then i read NO NO NO, need to increase my cals or my metabolism will crash and ill lose nothing... soooo increased my cal to 1600+ and now i read thats bull as well... *smashes face against key board*
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html0 -
I think I read somewhere that starvation mode only happens when you hit <5% BF...
Yep... 5-6% for men, and around 10% for women. Look up the Military study done by Karl Friedl0 -
I'm picking up what you're putting down... I get frustrated when say one day I was just not feeling well, not hungry whatever and didn't eat all my calories for the day MFP will give me a warning about "starvation mode'. I am aware that if for some reason I skip a meal i will not be in starvation mode and MFP needs to shut up. lol0
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I think I read somewhere that starvation mode only happens when you hit <5% BF...
Yep... 5-6% for men, and around 10% for women. Look up the Military study done by Karl Friedl
lol... then i have a loooooooooooooooooong way to go! hehehe0 -
I'm picking up what you're putting down... I get frustrated when say one day I was just not feeling well, not hungry whatever and didn't eat all my calories for the day MFP will give me a warning about "starvation mode'. I am aware that if for some reason I skip a meal i will not be in starvation mode and MFP needs to shut up. lol
But it will also congratulate you for finishing your diary and coming in under your calorie goal! It needs to shut up AND make up its mind!0 -
More good reading:I don't know if your issue is with people using the term "starvation mode" or just telling people they need to eat more. I have recently seen a lot of posts from people having problems losing weight because they are trying to do less than 1200 calories and exercise and the usual advice is eat more. You eat more so you have the energy to exercise but like anything everyone is different so I think this post is just confusing some people out there. That is great it works for you but most people who post and are asking for advice it is not working for so people are advising them to do something different. That is how you find out what works for you.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html0 -
I'm picking up what you're putting down... I get frustrated when say one day I was just not feeling well, not hungry whatever and didn't eat all my calories for the day MFP will give me a warning about "starvation mode'. I am aware that if for some reason I skip a meal i will not be in starvation mode and MFP needs to shut up. lol
But it will also congratulate you for finishing your diary and coming in under your calorie goal! It needs to shut up AND make up its mind!
if i was a cat, id like to believe id look like the one in your pic!0 -
I'm picking up what you're putting down... I get frustrated when say one day I was just not feeling well, not hungry whatever and didn't eat all my calories for the day MFP will give me a warning about "starvation mode'. I am aware that if for some reason I skip a meal i will not be in starvation mode and MFP needs to shut up. lol
But it will also congratulate you for finishing your diary and coming in under your calorie goal! It needs to shut up AND make up its mind!
if i was a cat, id like to believe id look like the one in your pic!
He's not fat, he's just got a lot of pressure per square inch!0 -
Been 3 hours since I last ate I think I'm in starvation mode.
My dog is passed out right now it's starvation mode.
I'm feeling a bit gassy today it's probably starvation mode.
My leg itches. Oh, I know, starvation mode.
Summer happens because of the rotation of the earth towards starvation mode.
What goes up must go into starvation mode.
An object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon in starvation mode.
I painted my nails today using a lovely color of starvation mode.
The capital of Mongolia is Ulan starvation mode.
The Magna Carta quaranteed the right of man to not be subjected to starvation mode.
Roses are red. Violets of blue. You're in starvation mode.
When traveling at 60mph and a train is traveling at 65mph at what point will they meet in starvation mode?
v=dr/v(starvation mode)
a*a+b*b=c*starvation mode
The hypothalums regulates starvation mode
When baking cookies make sure to cream your eggs, sugar, and starvation mode
Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty Im not in starvation mode.
Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for starvation mode
You killed Kenny! You starvation modes!
You were once, twice, three times a starvation mode....
Just a small town girl
Living in a lonely world
She took the midnight train going anywhere
Just a city boy
Born and raised in Starvation Moooodeeee!! Don't stop starvin'0 -
I'm picking up what you're putting down... I get frustrated when say one day I was just not feeling well, not hungry whatever and didn't eat all my calories for the day MFP will give me a warning about "starvation mode'. I am aware that if for some reason I skip a meal i will not be in starvation mode and MFP needs to shut up. lol
But it will also congratulate you for finishing your diary and coming in under your calorie goal! It needs to shut up AND make up its mind!
if i was a cat, id like to believe id look like the one in your pic!
He's not fat, he's just got a lot of pressure per square inch!
i was never fat either, ive been pleasantly plump!0 -
Been 3 hours since I last ate I think I'm in starvation mode.
My dog is passed out right now it's starvation mode.
I'm feeling a bit gassy today it's probably starvation mode.
My leg itches. Oh, I know, starvation mode.
Summer happens because of the rotation of the earth towards starvation mode.
What goes up must go into starvation mode.
An object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon in starvation mode.
I painted my nails today using a lovely color of starvation mode.
The capital of Mongolia is Ulan starvation mode.
The Magna Carta quaranteed the right of man to not be subjected to starvation mode.
Roses are red. Violets of blue. You're in starvation mode.
When traveling at 60mph and a train is traveling at 65mph at what point will they meet in starvation mode?
v=dr/v(starvation mode)
a*a+b*b=c*starvation mode
The hypothalums regulates starvation mode
When baking cookies make sure to cream your eggs, sugar, and starvation mode
Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty Im not in starvation mode.
Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for starvation mode
You killed Kenny! You starvation modes!
You were once, twice, three times a starvation mode....
Just a small town girl
Living in a lonely world
She took the midnight train going anywhere
Just a city boy
Born and raised in Starvation Moooodeeee!! Don't stop starvin'
dont forget what happens if you poop wrong...0 -
Seriously, I think half the reason I got overweight in the FIRST place was the stupid starvation mode myth. After so much information, I literally now have almost no idea how I should be eating. I just try to eat 4 meals a day of about 300-400 calories each with a lot of protein and veggies and hope for the best.
The other myth that needs to be banned is "maybe the weight you gained is muscle weight." Yeah right! It is not possible to randomly put on 3-5 pounds of muscle in one week. I am working out 2x a week for an hour at weight training, hoping to gain that much in a few MONTHS. Not three days. Maybe it's water retention, but 3 pounds of muscle? I think not.0 -
Been 3 hours since I last ate I think I'm in starvation mode.
My dog is passed out right now it's starvation mode.
I'm feeling a bit gassy today it's probably starvation mode.
My leg itches. Oh, I know, starvation mode.
Summer happens because of the rotation of the earth towards starvation mode.
What goes up must go into starvation mode.
An object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon in starvation mode.
I painted my nails today using a lovely color of starvation mode.
The capital of Mongolia is Ulan starvation mode.
The Magna Carta quaranteed the right of man to not be subjected to starvation mode.
Roses are red. Violets of blue. You're in starvation mode.
When traveling at 60mph and a train is traveling at 65mph at what point will they meet in starvation mode?
v=dr/v(starvation mode)
a*a+b*b=c*starvation mode
The hypothalums regulates starvation mode
When baking cookies make sure to cream your eggs, sugar, and starvation mode
Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty Im not in starvation mode.
Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for starvation mode
You killed Kenny! You starvation modes!
You were once, twice, three times a starvation mode....
Just a small town girl
Living in a lonely world
She took the midnight train going anywhere
Just a city boy
Born and raised in Starvation Moooodeeee!! Don't stop starvin'
dont forget what happens if you poop wrong...
Woah theres a way to poop wrong?! No one ever told me! I'm scared now do I squeeze or pinch?0 -
anyone who says bacon is bad will be immediately blindfolded, tortured, and shot....well maybe not tortured...
But they should be put into (dun dun daaaaa!) starvation mode.0 -
Most of these threads are just ridiculous if you ask me. People just need to eat healthy, allow treats, and MOVE and quit sweating the small stuff. Stay off the freakin scale too. A number does not define you. Somebody could be a skinny twig and weigh110 and somebody could weigh150 and be pure lean muscle. I personally prefer the pure lean muscle at 150 over the twig.
Enjoy life, log your calories and activities, but enjoy life and get over the numbers and what not!!:drinker:0 -
I swear if I see one more thread where someone says that someone is in "starvation mode" because they missed snack 2 or are eating 1200 calories a day I am going to have a melt down.
You have to not eat ANYTHING for 72 hours for your body to to into starvation mode and start turing to muscle to for energy. And even then the effect is pretty minima. Martin Beckham does a great job of laying out all the research on his web site www.leangains.com.
so if you skip breakfast you are not in starvation mode...if you do not eat an apple at 2pm you are not in starvation mode.
There are plenty of people out there (myself included) who skip breakfast, train fasted, and have our largest meal post workout and we are not in starvation mode. I have lost 3% body fat using leangains 18/6 which is an 18 hour fast and a six hour eating window.
Under eating can lead to a possible plateau but it does not mean you are in starvation mode.
I hate that too! lol I don't think not eating 1200 cal a day is going to kill anyone. Maybe slow your metabolism a bit but nothing major
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Weight loss is as much, if not more, hormonal than caloric in nature. Exercise affects hormone levels, eating certain foods affects hormone levels, amount of sleep affects hormone levels, if your hormones are out of sync then you can find it impossible to lose weight. If you do positive things that keep your hormones balanced then you can keep your body from entering starvation mode and loose weight very efficiently. Caloric restriction is not the only thing that must happen for a person to lose and keep off fat.
That is why we tell people to pick two of three changes; Supplement right, Eat right, or Exercise, if they want to lose weight. Doing one of those alone will not lead to long term results because just eating a caloric deficit will not make the correct hormonal changes. Supplementing right and Exercise will make the correct hormonal changes but the body will have enough calories to maintain itself.
Of course this is all true for most people, there are exceptional individuals (and that isn't necessarily a good thing), and the kind of calories a person intakes can make a huge difference in the results a person sees in the mirror. Often times a clean diet can do a lot for the average person because the average person has been eating crap for so long their body is starved for the right nutrients.0 -
starvation mode is the definition of #firstworldproblems0
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That one is spoken out of pure ignorance and makes me snort and roll my eyes every time I see it posted. Firstly, one does not put on muscle mass while in a deficit. Secondly, even when in a caloric surplus with optimal diet, training (heavy lifting) and protein intake, gaining muscle is a slow, laborious process. Thirdly, nobody....nobody....miraculously puts on 3 pounds of muscle because they started doing some cardio bunny video workout 4 days ago or walked around the block for a whole two days in a row....The other myth that needs to be banned is "maybe the weight you gained is muscle weight." Yeah right! It is not possible to randomly put on 3-5 pounds of muscle in one week. I am working out 2x a week for an hour at weight training, hoping to gain that much in a few MONTHS. Not three days. Maybe it's water retention, but 3 pounds of muscle? I think not.0 -
I didn't know when I read the initial post about the starvation mode that I was going to be subjected to bacon and ice cream porn, lol.0
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That one is spoken out of pure ignorance and makes me snort and roll my eyes every time I see it posted. Firstly, one does not put on muscle mass while in a deficit. Secondly, even when in a caloric surplus with optimal diet, training (heavy lifting) and protein intake, gaining muscle is a slow, laborious process. Thirdly, nobody....nobody....miraculously puts on 3 pounds of muscle because they started doing some cardio bunny video workout 4 days ago or walked around the block for a whole two days in a row....The other myth that needs to be banned is "maybe the weight you gained is muscle weight." Yeah right! It is not possible to randomly put on 3-5 pounds of muscle in one week. I am working out 2x a week for an hour at weight training, hoping to gain that much in a few MONTHS. Not three days. Maybe it's water retention, but 3 pounds of muscle? I think not.
I always laugh at that. Wishful thinking at it's finest.0 -
While reading this post I forgot to eat my apple and yogurt...am I going to be okay?:noway:0
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I've done a quick perusal of all the replies and while I think it has been alluded to, I don't think anyone has specifically addressed the issue of starvation and malnutrition.
It's not just a matter of eating less food, it's also about the type of food(s) not being eating.
If you start messing with key nutritional ingredients, then you start messing with bodily functions.
Not enough protein messes with cell function.
Not enough potassium can cause fatal heart arrhythmias.
Hyponatremia messes with kidney function.
Chronic hypoglycemia: death of unregenerating brain cells.
My point: there's more to the definition of starvation than what some schmo on mfp spouts off about.0
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