Morbidly Obese mother files complaint

UsedToBeHusky

The doctor shouldn't have lied and said something was policy when it isn't but the doctor always has a right to make his recommendation and its up to the lady if she wants to go with what he recommended or to make a bad choice. Obviously she was making bad choices already to get to 353 but its her body.

Not everyone who is fat made "bad choices" to get there. Thanks for playing.

Let me guess, you have a thyroid disorder that makes you fat and makes it impossible to lose weight? :noway:

This really hits close to home. If you are curious why, you can read my blog, http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/UsedToBeHusky.

The fact of the matter is, that not everyone is obese or morbidly obese because they made choices to be. This is the reason why fat tolerance, if nothing else, is an important social issue. Just because you can see that someone is obese, but you can't see why they are obese, does not mean that individual should be despised or treated without respsect. Honestly, regardless of anything, no one deserves to be treated with disrespect, and that is why the terms "fat acceptance" and "fat discrimination" have become buzz words in modern media. If you can look at a person, see their flaws, and then use those flaws as a reason to hate them, then you are discriminating against that individual, irregardless of your rationale behind it.

My mom has had major problems with her thryoid. I too have a condition which makes it hard to lose and makes it easier to gain. But that shouldn't be a copout. That doesn't justify being morbidly obese when most of the time, those people can lose weight, they just have to work harder and do things differently than a 'normal' person. I know medical issues happen but bad eating/exercise habits make up the majority.

I don't recommend or condone making fun of people for any reason but I don't think that people should be required to accept what *most* of the time, is a personal choice that DOES effect others. I don't hate fat people. I am one, my family is full of them but I don't agree with people who complain about their weight but do NOTHING to change it or don't take responsibility for it.

You didn't read my blog. I actually was not referring AT ALL to people with thyroid issues.

fbmandy55

The doctor shouldn't have lied and said something was policy when it isn't but the doctor always has a right to make his recommendation and its up to the lady if she wants to go with what he recommended or to make a bad choice. Obviously she was making bad choices already to get to 353 but its her body.

Not everyone who is fat made "bad choices" to get there. Thanks for playing.

Let me guess, you have a thyroid disorder that makes you fat and makes it impossible to lose weight? :noway:

This really hits close to home. If you are curious why, you can read my blog, http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/UsedToBeHusky.

The fact of the matter is, that not everyone is obese or morbidly obese because they made choices to be. This is the reason why fat tolerance, if nothing else, is an important social issue. Just because you can see that someone is obese, but you can't see why they are obese, does not mean that individual should be despised or treated without respsect. Honestly, regardless of anything, no one deserves to be treated with disrespect, and that is why the terms "fat acceptance" and "fat discrimination" have become buzz words in modern media. If you can look at a person, see their flaws, and then use those flaws as a reason to hate them, then you are discriminating against that individual, irregardless of your rationale behind it.

My mom has had major problems with her thryoid. I too have a condition which makes it hard to lose and makes it easier to gain. But that shouldn't be a copout. That doesn't justify being morbidly obese when most of the time, those people can lose weight, they just have to work harder and do things differently than a 'normal' person. I know medical issues happen but bad eating/exercise habits make up the majority.

I don't recommend or condone making fun of people for any reason but I don't think that people should be required to accept what *most* of the time, is a personal choice that DOES effect others. I don't hate fat people. I am one, my family is full of them but I don't agree with people who complain about their weight but do NOTHING to change it or don't take responsibility for it.

You didn't read my blog. I actually was not referring AT ALL to people with thyroid issues.

I did want to, but clicked the link and got a "page not found" error.

vim_n_vigor

You didn't read my blog. I actually was not referring AT ALL to people with thyroid issues.

Your blog won't open for me. It says it isn't there when I click this link

Manda86

So lets say that plane seats are suddenly all the size of first class seats instead of coach. That cuts down the amount of passengers by 20%. Also cutting down the luggage and booking fees and ticket sales by 20%. WHich means airline prices will go up about 25% for everyone.

Are obese people going to pay the extra $100 every time I need to fly somewhere for business? I didn't think so.

Let them pay for 2 seats, because that's what they're taking up. You could apply this model to countless other industries all over the world.

Airlines should be free! Air travel is my right as a human being! All things should accommodate ALL people at all time for maximum fairness.

corn63

So lets say that plane seats are suddenly all the size of first class seats instead of coach. That cuts down the amount of passengers by 20%. Also cutting down the luggage and booking fees and ticket sales by 20%. WHich means airline prices will go up about 25% for everyone.

Are obese people going to pay the extra $100 every time I need to fly somewhere for business? I didn't think so.

Let them pay for 2 seats, because that's what they're taking up. You could apply this model to countless other industries all over the world.

Yes, let's discriminate against fat people because it's "cheaper".

You make leaps Evil Knievel wouldn't make. Perhaps you missed your life calling.

fbmandy55

So lets say that plane seats are suddenly all the size of first class seats instead of coach. That cuts down the amount of passengers by 20%. Also cutting down the luggage and booking fees and ticket sales by 20%. WHich means airline prices will go up about 25% for everyone.

Are obese people going to pay the extra $100 every time I need to fly somewhere for business? I didn't think so.

Let them pay for 2 seats, because that's what they're taking up. You could apply this model to countless other industries all over the world.

Yes, let's discriminate against fat people because it's "cheaper".

Why should other people have to pay MORE because they are at a healthy weight??? Then we would be punishing people at a healthy weight to accomodate people who "mostly", not all, put themselves in a certain position.

UsedToBeHusky

You didn't read my blog. I actually was not referring AT ALL to people with thyroid issues.

Your blog won't open for me. It says it isn't there when I click this link

Well that is weird. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/UsedToBeHusky/view/not-everyone-has-control-480747

Try this one.

K_Serz

So lets say that plane seats are suddenly all the size of first class seats instead of coach. That cuts down the amount of passengers by 20%. Also cutting down the luggage and booking fees and ticket sales by 20%. WHich means airline prices will go up about 25% for everyone.

Are obese people going to pay the extra $100 every time I need to fly somewhere for business? I didn't think so.

Let them pay for 2 seats, because that's what they're taking up. You could apply this model to countless other industries all over the world.

Yes, let's discriminate against fat people because it's "cheaper".

No. Lets make people whos @$$ occupies 2 chairs, pay for 2 chairs.

_Witsy_

I can't imagine getting familiar with an OB and thinking everything was well and then BAM something like this happens - especially right before the birth! Beyond that, it's outright offensive that the doctor lied to her... If I were the woman, I'd feel doubly insulted - one that the doctor shamed me b/c of my weight, but even more so that the doctor thought I were so dumb that she could lie to me and I wouldn't find out. I can't say that I'd sue, but I'd definitely make such a big stink about it that the doctor would've wish she'd have not even crossed that bridge and she definitely would think twice before she treated someone else that way.

I guess I'm one of the few people who doesn't see how she was shamed. In my opinion, she is feeling shamed because the doctor wants to send her to another place and they weren't honest about the reasons...so she's assuming it's because she is fat.

So much more time could be spent on getting to a healthier weight, BMI, and looking forward to a low risk birth. But that's just me. Instead, she brought a situation that she may or may not have been embarassed about and made it public. I've been embarassed many times by what doctors have told me about my weight. I wouldn't be embarassed if I truly believed it was ok for myself to be at this weight.

Umeboshi

The doctor shouldn't have lied and said something was policy when it isn't but the doctor always has a right to make his recommendation and its up to the lady if she wants to go with what he recommended or to make a bad choice. Obviously she was making bad choices already to get to 353 but its her body.

Not everyone who is fat made "bad choices" to get there. Thanks for playing.

Let me guess, you have a thyroid disorder that makes you fat and makes it impossible to lose weight? :noway:

This really hits close to home. If you are curious why, you can read my blog, http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/UsedToBeHusky.

The fact of the matter is, that not everyone is obese or morbidly obese because they made choices to be. This is the reason why fat tolerance, if nothing else, is an important social issue. Just because you can see that someone is obese, but you can't see why they are obese, does not mean that individual should be despised or treated without respsect. Honestly, regardless of anything, no one deserves to be treated with disrespect, and that is why the terms "fat acceptance" and "fat discrimination" have become buzz words in modern media. If you can look at a person, see their flaws, and then use those flaws as a reason to hate them, then you are discriminating against that individual, irregardless of your rationale behind it.

My mom has had major problems with her thryoid. I too have a condition which makes it hard to lose and makes it easier to gain. But that shouldn't be a copout. That doesn't justify being morbidly obese when most of the time, those people can lose weight, they just have to work harder and do things differently than a 'normal' person. I know medical issues happen but bad eating/exercise habits make up the majority.

I don't recommend or condone making fun of people for any reason but I don't think that people should be required to accept what *most* of the time, is a personal choice that DOES effect others. I don't hate fat people. I am one, my family is full of them but I don't agree with people who complain about their weight but do NOTHING to change it or don't take responsibility for it.

You didn't read my blog. I actually was not referring AT ALL to people with thyroid issues.

I have no idea why people think fat people, no matter what, should have to kill themselves trying to be thin. I'm sick of hearing this sentiment.
It's okay to get fat or be fat or stay fat.

khall86790

I think the doctor was wrong to lie to her and a better approach would have been for him to be honest and say he wasn't comfortable with it given her weight and would like to refer her to someone who has experienced/specialised in these kinds of cases before.

However, I think she is wrong for creating this much about the situation, she is clearly embarrassed about the whole thing and trying to be high and mighty about it when really she should be taking a look in the mirror and wondering why this happening to her in the first place.

What is she going to do when the child is walking and she needs to be running around after him/her all the time and keeping them out of trouble?
What is she going to do if there is complications with the birth and it's down to her weight?

The whole situation is completely wrong.

UsedToBeHusky

I have no idea why people think fat people, no matter what, should have to kill themselves trying to be thin. I'm sick of hearing this sentiment.
It's okay to get fat or be fat or stay fat.

I agree with you. My choices are mine. I'll accept whatever consequences they bring.

vim_n_vigor

So lets say that plane seats are suddenly all the size of first class seats instead of coach. That cuts down the amount of passengers by 20%. Also cutting down the luggage and booking fees and ticket sales by 20%. WHich means airline prices will go up about 25% for everyone.

Are obese people going to pay the extra $100 every time I need to fly somewhere for business? I didn't think so.

Let them pay for 2 seats, because that's what they're taking up. You could apply this model to countless other industries all over the world.

Yes, let's discriminate against fat people because it's "cheaper".

The seats fit a decent percentage of the population. Tall people will also tend to have to pay for first class seats because their legs won't fit in the space - there we go, now we have height discrimination too. No, everything should not be totally accessible to everyone. Society would not be able to afford this on any scale. Someone tipping a certain weight won't fit in standard ambulances either. Requiring that all ambulances are equipped and capable of moving 600 pound people - because we wouldn't want to discriminate - would not be cost effective either.

Umeboshi

So lets say that plane seats are suddenly all the size of first class seats instead of coach. That cuts down the amount of passengers by 20%. Also cutting down the luggage and booking fees and ticket sales by 20%. WHich means airline prices will go up about 25% for everyone.

Are obese people going to pay the extra $100 every time I need to fly somewhere for business? I didn't think so.

Let them pay for 2 seats, because that's what they're taking up. You could apply this model to countless other industries all over the world.

Yes, let's discriminate against fat people because it's "cheaper".

No. Lets make people whos @$$ occupies 2 chairs, pay for 2 chairs.

Let's just put benches in airplanes and measure each person's rear end and charge by the square inches they take up on the bench. That'd save loads of money.

vim_n_vigor

So lets say that plane seats are suddenly all the size of first class seats instead of coach. That cuts down the amount of passengers by 20%. Also cutting down the luggage and booking fees and ticket sales by 20%. WHich means airline prices will go up about 25% for everyone.

Are obese people going to pay the extra $100 every time I need to fly somewhere for business? I didn't think so.

Let them pay for 2 seats, because that's what they're taking up. You could apply this model to countless other industries all over the world.

Yes, let's discriminate against fat people because it's "cheaper".

No. Lets make people whos @$$ occupies 2 chairs, pay for 2 chairs.

Let's just put benches in airplanes and measure each person's rear end and charge by the square inches they take up on the bench. That'd save loads of money.

It would also be horribly unsafe in the event of an emergency.....

_Witsy_

Morbid obesity is by definition unhealthy. MO is a disease process so for those of us who are obese, we are unhealthy. Fatt acceptance should not even be a term in our lexicon because we should never accept any disease process and try to disguise it as some sort of personal choice or civil right. I do not believe obese people should be discriminated against; however, there are well documented problems caused during pregnancy by obesity. Frankly, I find anyone who gets pregnant, is obese and tries to justify her obesity to be selfish just like a smoker who gets pregnant. Having once weight 400 pounds and being "healthy" I can tell you I was fooling myself. I have lost nearly 150 pounds and despite having near stellar lab values and vital signs, running several miles per week and eating healtheir, I am still obese and therefore not completely healthy. Obesity is an epidemic in our society because we want what we want when we want it and we refuse to accept the harsh reality that our bodies are designed to ingest and burn a certain number of calories per day. If you try to justify this woman's actions you are part of the problem.

The thing is that you cant just quit being fat like you can quit smoking.

You are correct that for a small percentage of obese people who possess a metabolism disorder, they cannot just stop being fat. However, the overwhelming majority of obese people, me included, became fat from making bad choices.

I think you missed the point. You can choose not to smoke, and from that day forward, you are a non-smoker. If you choose to stop over-eating, you will still be fat.

Not to mention that calling overeating a "bad" choice is a bit judgey, considering bodybuilders also purposefully overeat, sometimes bulking to the detriment of their health.... but they are never shamed or judged for their body type or eating choices.

Body builders (natural builders) are bulking and also working out in a way to build muscle...which is healthier than fat tissue. They understand how the body works and in order to increase their lean muscle they will put on some fat. They are not, however, building up their body to an unhealthy state.

ninerbuff

Why should other people have to pay MORE because they are at a healthy weight??? Then we would be punishing people at a healthy weight to accomodate people who "mostly", not all, put themselves in a certain position.

Realistically we actually do that with car insurance right now. Some are being rewarded money back if they are avoiding any insurance usage, but the premiums have already figured in the price based on location and possible accident with a driver with no insurance.

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fbmandy55

I have no idea why people think fat people, no matter what, should have to kill themselves trying to be thin. I'm sick of hearing this sentiment.
It's okay to get fat or be fat or stay fat.

I agree with you. My choices are mine. I'll accept whatever consequences they bring.

I did read your blog, it was very touching and I am terribly sorry that you had to experience that. I hope that I don't come off as judgemental of people in a situation like that. I ackwowledge that things like that happen and would never judge someone who had NO control, BUT my point is that there are many people who do have control but claim they don't to justify themselves. As a whole, obesity does effect us all in various ways.

AlongCame_Molly

Also, promiscuous sex is a poor lifestyle choice now? What?

So teenage/unwanted pregnancy, HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, chlamydia, chancroids, hepatitis, crabs and trichomoniasis are all GOOD choices? What is WRONG with you???

k8blujay2

Just because your numbers look good doesn't meant there aren't other health problems due to weight just lurking, waiting to show itself... such as a fatty liver or weak bones... too much pressure on your joints... risk of stroke... embolisms, COPD, cancer... things that may not show signs or symptoms for years... or may be there but aren't tested for...

Not to mention if surgery is needed, having to get through the layers and layers of fat before it can even get to the part that needs to be operated on.

And yes, there are some people that have thyroid problems or drug interaction problems... but I personally think that is much less than the people that claim these as a likely excuse to continue the unhealthy behaviors they are continuing. Regardless of the obsticals, we still each have a choice to do what is healthy (eat proper portions and whole foods, as well as, get a moderate amount of exercise) or to do what is not (eat bags of chips in one sitting, fast food at most meals, drink liters of soda at a time, not get even minimum amounts of recommended exercise).