Women in the UFC? C'MON
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In. SO IN.
Anyone want a sandwich while we wait for the sh*tstorm that's about to happen?
Can't tell you how tempted I was to say "Make me a sammich woman!"...0 -
That's cool if it's not your thing. But, again, please don't go down the whole overly violent road if you haven't really done your research. In all fairness, MMA is no more violent than boxing, football, or hockey.I haven't bothered to read all the thread responses, so my apologies if I am duplicating a previous post. The woman who is the current champ is AMAZING. She is an Olympic Bronze metal judoka and her grappling technique is among the best there is in MMA. If you understand what you are watching, she is amazing to watch. She is my favorite fighter out there right now, man or woman. I teach a recreational MMA class and a black belt level grappling class and I tell my students to check out YouTube clips of her if they want to see beautiful technique.
Thats pretty cool. I haven't even looked at it from that point of view. Still, I'm not into crazy violence of the sport.0 -
Nope. Never seen a girl fight. And, I never want to.
I certainly don't think women just belong in the kitchen, and I definitely support our AMAZING women in the military. UFC though, to me - just crazy. To each there own I guess.
UFC is a sport, in my opinion. So not sure how it's ok for women to serve in our military but not do UFC.0 -
Put em in a body bag!Ready to fight.
Sweep the leg!0 -
That's cool if it's not your thing. But, again, please don't go down the whole overly violent road if you haven't really done your research. In all fairness, MMA is no more violent than boxing, football, or hockey.I haven't bothered to read all the thread responses, so my apologies if I am duplicating a previous post. The woman who is the current champ is AMAZING. She is an Olympic Bronze metal judoka and her grappling technique is among the best there is in MMA. If you understand what you are watching, she is amazing to watch. She is my favorite fighter out there right now, man or woman. I teach a recreational MMA class and a black belt level grappling class and I tell my students to check out YouTube clips of her if they want to see beautiful technique.
Thats pretty cool. I haven't even looked at it from that point of view. Still, I'm not into crazy violence of the sport.
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Oviously stating "Women in the UFC? C'MON" grabbed everyone's attention. Heck, that's what posting is all about, right? Getting people talking and seeking feedback?
It's not a women vs. men thing. I think it's equally wrong...too much violence for the sol purpose of what? Entertainment? I may not know that much about the sport, the "moves and artistry", but I've read enough to see what happens to these people once they are no longer competitive. The sports eats 'em up and spits them out - even their dignity is gone. SAD, sad, sad!0 -
I could literally watch this all day lol
Here is some Ronda for you
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To each its own.. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I personally don't agree to everything out there now a days but at the same time that is on that individual. At the end of the day, I think that women should be given the same opportunity as men. So go on girls and FIGHT!!! I will definately be watching. This might even be better than the men UFC.0
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Seriously? As if the sport isn't barbaric enough with dudes. I'm certainly not hatin on people that are into it or watch it, but Women? I don't know, I just think its sad...
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society has gotten substantily LESS violent in its entertainment compared to the past... Hello Gladiators, slve fights and Thu Hunt (when the prey was human and not a fox) Personally these women rock0
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society has gotten substantily LESS violent in its entertainment compared to the past... Hello Gladiators, slve fights and Thu Hunt (when the prey was human and not a fox) Personally these women rock
lol...do you really believe this to be true? do you think these things do not still exist? "You think that's air you're breathing now?
Hmph."0 -
society has gotten substantily LESS violent in its entertainment compared to the past... Hello Gladiators, slve fights and Thu Hunt (when the prey was human and not a fox) Personally these women rock
lol...do you really believe this to be true? do you think these things do not still exist? "You think that's air you're breathing now?
Hmph."
So, which one of you is being insinuated into the matrix?0 -
Nope. Never seen a girl fight. And, I never want to.
I certainly don't think women just belong in the kitchen, and I definitely support our AMAZING women in the military. UFC though, to me - just crazy. To each there own I guess.
UFC is a sport, in my opinion. So not sure how it's ok for women to serve in our military but not do UFC.
Exactly. It's important to look at it as a SPORT. As Kevin James' character says in "Here Comes the Boom," it's no more dangerous or violent than Nascar or boxing or football.
ETA to the fact that you support women fighitng in the military, which IS in fact violence, but not the sport of a physical competition?0 -
... but I've read enough to see what happens to these people once they are no longer competitive. The sports eats 'em up and spits them out - even their dignity is gone. SAD, sad, sad!
And this is different from other professional sports how???? MMA athletes are not unlike any other competitive athletes. They have a hard time coming to grips with it when it is time to leave the game. Like any other athlete, MMA fighters have the ability to leave the sport when they start becoming less competitive. If anything, MMA fighters should be MORE aware of this than other fighters. The training leading up to a fight is so physically demanding that it quickly becomes apparent when you can no longer handle the demands. And just due to the nature of the sport, a slight decline in ability becomes very apparent very quickly.0 -
Also just want to throw this out there that I am a very "traditional" woman and LOVE MMA and UFC. I cannot WAIT for the fight this weekend! Party at my place!0
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It's not as if a couple of women (or men) just get angry with one another and start fighting, this is well-trained athletes doing this of their own volition. It's sport.
Real violence is what really is sad: shootings, murders, domestic violence, child abuse.0 -
... but I've read enough to see what happens to these people once they are no longer competitive. The sports eats 'em up and spits them out - even their dignity is gone. SAD, sad, sad!
And this is different from other professional sports how???? MMA athletes are not unlike any other competitive athletes. They have a hard time coming to grips with it when it is time to leave the game. Like any other athlete, MMA fighters have the ability to leave the sport when they start becoming less competitive. If anything, MMA fighters should be MORE aware of this than other fighters. The training leading up to a fight is so physically demanding that it quickly becomes apparent when you can no longer handle the demands. And just due to the nature of the sport, a slight decline in ability becomes very apparent very quickly.
Sorry, but your way off with that comment.
Very different. Very rarely...not saying it doesn't happen, but rarely does a "Top" athelete of his sport get spit out like a piece of garbage when they retire, get let go, injured, whatever (if they do, its usually b/c of their own dumb bad choices). Top atheletes of most sports even when they've over stayed there welcome (abilities decline, too old, less competitive etc) do not get thrown out on the street so to speak.0 -
... but I've read enough to see what happens to these people once they are no longer competitive. The sports eats 'em up and spits them out - even their dignity is gone. SAD, sad, sad!
And this is different from other professional sports how???? MMA athletes are not unlike any other competitive athletes. They have a hard time coming to grips with it when it is time to leave the game. Like any other athlete, MMA fighters have the ability to leave the sport when they start becoming less competitive. If anything, MMA fighters should be MORE aware of this than other fighters. The training leading up to a fight is so physically demanding that it quickly becomes apparent when you can no longer handle the demands. And just due to the nature of the sport, a slight decline in ability becomes very apparent very quickly.
Sorry, but your way off with that comment.
Very different. Very rarely...not saying it doesn't happen, but rarely does a "Top" athelete of his sport get spit out like a piece of garbage when they retire, get let go, injured, whatever (if they do, its usually b/c of their own dumb bad choices). Top atheletes of most sports even when they've over stayed there welcome (abilities decline, too old, less competitive etc) do not get thrown out on the street so to speak.
Does this same thing happen with the top athletes in MMA? Has it really been around long enough to get enough examples for a proper comparison? It seems like some of them have gone on to relatively lucrative careers in fitness, and film. Why would that be any different for women competitors?0 -
Lena Ovchynnikova is my favourite
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You're absolutely right ... women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen making their families a nice home cooked meal.
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I'm actually quite excited to watch it.
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Does this same thing happen with the top athletes in MMA? Has it really been around long enough to get enough examples for a proper comparison? It seems like some of them have gone on to relatively lucrative careers in fitness, and film. Why would that be any different for women competitors?
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Good Point. Probably not enough data. I know a lot do have lucrative careers, but it sure seems like more often than not, they don't. However, man or woman - no difference.0 -
Oviously stating "Women in the UFC? C'MON" grabbed everyone's attention. Heck, that's what posting is all about, right? Getting people talking and seeking feedback?
It's not a women vs. men thing. I think it's equally wrong...too much violence for the sol purpose of what? Entertainment? I may not know that much about the sport, the "moves and artistry", but I've read enough to see what happens to these people once they are no longer competitive. The sports eats 'em up and spits them out - even their dignity is gone. SAD, sad, sad!
This is not different then, football, basketball, rugby, hockey or any kind of other physical sport. The different sports take a toll on the body and the athlete has to then lead a life like the rest of society. I am curious though when you say that their "dignity is gone" .....how so?0 -
They should just stick to oil wrestling and wet t-shirt contest, huh?0
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:laugh:Seriously? As if the sport isn't barbaric enough with dudes. I'm certainly not hatin on people that are into it or watch it, but Women? I don't know, I just think its sad...0 -
Sad? I think its Freakin AWESOME! Ronda Rousey is my damn hero!
I've been waiting so long for UFC to sign some women - so so happy they finally have! (Now if only they could fight in NY!)0 -
Nope. Never seen a girl fight. And, I never want to.
I certainly don't think women just belong in the kitchen, and I definitely support our AMAZING women in the military. UFC though, to me - just crazy. To each there own I guess.
UFC is a sport, in my opinion. So not sure how it's ok for women to serve in our military but not do UFC.
Exactly. It's important to look at it as a SPORT. As Kevin James' character says in "Here Comes the Boom," it's no more dangerous or violent than Nascar or boxing or football.
ETA to the fact that you support women fighitng in the military, which IS in fact violence, but not the sport of a physical competition?
More people die in Football and Boxing every year than in MMA!
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Im a UFC nut and I lkve that the womem now have a place in the UFC, I will be watching Saturday.0
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Oh look, a sexist post. Hi, sexist post.0
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Sorry, but you are the one who is way off. Where are you getting your information? In your posts, I see a lot of "it seems" and phrases of that nature. Do you have FIRST HAND experience or knowledge? I think not. I do. And if you think that the NFL does not "spit out" their athletes when they are done, you are sadly mistaken. Why don't you talk with some retired NFL players who can't walk down a flight of stairs or who are suffering the effects of multiple concussions? The NFL provides NO retirement plan, health insurance, etc. so these former players are totally on their own.
That being said, the whole "treatment of the players" issue has more to do with the fact that MMA is a sport still in it's formative years and is still building a fan base. It is far less established than the NFL, NBA, etc. So to compare the salaries that the athletes make or the fortunes they have after their playing days are done is suspect at best. And it has little to do with your original post regarding barbarianism. The simple fact of the matter is that other sports are every bit as brutal as MMA. And if you want to tell me that you have issues with boxing, football, hockey, etc as well, then I am fine with your point. At least it is consistent. However, if you do not have the same feelings towards other such sports, you are just ill-informed or potentially ignorant.0
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