Aspartame in Milk?

jonnythan

why on earth would you want to remove its natural sugars and replace with artificial ingredients?

They don't want to do that.

They want to *add* sweetener and still be able to call it milk.

Right now they can add high fructose corn syrup and still call it milk. If they add aspartame, they can't call it milk.

Honestly I don't understand that either, why add anything to milk? Is it not sweet enough without adding sweeteners?

Go to your local store and look in the milk section. You'll see plenty of flavored milk - chocolate, strawberry, vanilla, banana. Those all have added sugar.

What the dairy industry wants to do is make these products, like "strawberry milk," by adding artificial sweeteners instead of sugar or HFCS.

Obviously people buy these products, so I guess it's not sweet enough for some people.

Iron_Pheonix

It's like Frankenmilk! Lol. Why can't they just leave it alone and stop trying to improve on nature?

neandermagnon

i don't understand....are we saying that regular milk you buy in the store has added sugar in it but doesn't list it on the ingredients? wha?

see the above posts, the article is poorly worded. they just want to be able to call it "milk" - it will be in the list of ingredients

LuckyLeprechaun

i don't understand....are we saying that regular milk you buy in the store has added sugar in it but doesn't list it on the ingredients? wha?

Chocolate Milk has a lot of sugar, or high fructose corn syrup. The proposal is to use aspartame instead, to reduce the calorie content.

This would be a safe substitution for nearly all individuals.

jonnythan

It's like Frankenmilk! Lol. Why can't they just leave it alone and stop trying to improve on nature?

Well, if we "stopped trying to improve on nature" you wouldn't have that cell phone, the internet, ibuprofen, penicillin, a car, etc etc etc.

jonnythan

i don't understand....are we saying that regular milk you buy in the store has added sugar in it but doesn't list it on the ingredients? wha?

Chocolate Milk has a lot of sugar, or high fructose corn syrup. The proposal is to use aspartame instead, to reduce the calorie content.

This would be a safe substitution for nearly all individuals.

I agree. I think it's a fine idea.

Don't drink it if you don't want. I'd like to be able to get some strawberry milk that doesn't have 2-3 times the calories of regular milk. I don't mind the aspartame.

All the people complaining don't drink strawberry milk loaded with HFCS anyway. It's not like they're going to start pouring aspartame into your 2%.

Iron_Pheonix

why on earth would you want to remove its natural sugars and replace with artificial ingredients?

They don't want to do that.

They want to *add* sweetener and still be able to call it milk.

Right now they can add high fructose corn syrup and still call it milk. If they add aspartame, they can't call it milk.

Honestly I don't understand that either, why add anything to milk? Is it not sweet enough without adding sweeteners?

Go to your local store and look in the milk section. You'll see plenty of flavored milk - chocolate, strawberry, vanilla, banana. Those all have added sugar.

What the dairy industry wants to do is make these products, like "strawberry milk," by adding artificial sweeteners instead of sugar or HFCS.

Obviously people buy these products, so I guess it's not sweet enough for some people.

Well surely that's a bigger problem. All labels should state full ingredients, here in the UK if its less than a certain percentage of the product it doesn't have to be listed. I don't eat or consume any of these products- I don't like them and I don't want it in my body however.......if I did, I would expect it to be listed.

Quite frankly it wouldn't bother me what they call it as long as its listed.

ldrosophila

I cant believe they wouldnt list it in the ingredients. I would hope the FDA would still require listing of aspartame. Looking at my diet soda and it is listed on the side that it contains phenylalanine. I would think to avoid litigation that they would do this for milk.

jonnythan

why on earth would you want to remove its natural sugars and replace with artificial ingredients?

They don't want to do that.

They want to *add* sweetener and still be able to call it milk.

Right now they can add high fructose corn syrup and still call it milk. If they add aspartame, they can't call it milk.

Honestly I don't understand that either, why add anything to milk? Is it not sweet enough without adding sweeteners?

Go to your local store and look in the milk section. You'll see plenty of flavored milk - chocolate, strawberry, vanilla, banana. Those all have added sugar.

What the dairy industry wants to do is make these products, like "strawberry milk," by adding artificial sweeteners instead of sugar or HFCS.

Obviously people buy these products, so I guess it's not sweet enough for some people.

Well surely that's a bigger problem. All labels should state full ingredients, here in the UK if its less than a certain percentage of the product it doesn't have to be listed. I don't eat or consume any of these products- I don't like them and I don't want it in my body however.......if I did, I would expect it to be listed.

Quite frankly it wouldn't bother me what they call it as long as its listed.

The artificial sweeteners will be listed in the ingredients no matter what. If aspartame is added to a milk product, it will still be listed in the ingredients.

jonnythan

I cant believe they wouldnt list it in the ingredients

They would.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Iron_Pheonix

It's like Frankenmilk! Lol. Why can't they just leave it alone and stop trying to improve on nature?

Well, if we "stopped trying to improve on nature" you wouldn't have that cell phone, the internet, ibuprofen, penicillin, a car, etc etc etc.

I was referring to food- that's what the thread is about? How can you take something that was created by nature and improve on it? Phones, cars etc weren't ever created by nature.

blu_meanie_ca

Unless I'm missing something major, no one said anything about putting aspartame into anything without putting it on the label.



..........and not change the label.................

LuckyLeprechaun

It's like Frankenmilk! Lol. Why can't they just leave it alone and stop trying to improve on nature?

Well, if we "stopped trying to improve on nature" you wouldn't have that cell phone, the internet, ibuprofen, penicillin, a car, etc etc etc.

I was referring to food- that's what the thread is about? How can you take something that was created by nature and improve on it? Phones, cars etc weren't ever created by nature.

penecillin was.
Then we made it better, in the lab, by using science.

Science is good. Chemicals are all around you. It's OK.

socajam

I am not holding my breath about the FDA. Any member of the population with an ounce of brain is fully aware that the FDA is bought by the food industry. The FDA is not concerned about the population and what ingredients in the food are doing to us.

This will definitely push me further to making my almond milk on a regular basis. I do not drink almond/rice/coconut milk from the stores, too many chemicals that I cannot pronounce. Homemade almond milk have hardly any calories, or if I am really desperate for cereal, I will just use carrot juice.

jonnythan

It's like Frankenmilk! Lol. Why can't they just leave it alone and stop trying to improve on nature?

Well, if we "stopped trying to improve on nature" you wouldn't have that cell phone, the internet, ibuprofen, penicillin, a car, etc etc etc.

I was referring to food- that's what the thread is about? How can you take something that was created by nature and improve on it? Phones, cars etc weren't ever created by nature.

You can improve on a tree by turning it into a desk. You can improve on a hunk of dirt by extracting silicon from it and making computer chips from them.

Ultimately, everything we have comes from nature. All the good things we have in life are a result of man improving on nature.

Cottage cheese doesn't just happen. We have to make it by improving on semolina. Etc etc.

Regardless, you don't even consume the products the article is talking about in the first place. I doubt if you're buying much HFCS-filled chocolate milk.

Iron_Pheonix

aspartame = evil.

Your exaggeration is quite over the top.

Things like rape and genocide are evil.

Aspartame has been proven to be safe to consume.

I wouldn't even go there, that thread has been rehashed a hundred times! A great deal of us consider it to be a fairly nasty product. Especially those of us that eat food that lived or grew. No aspartame trees that I know of?

There aren't any penecillin trees either.

Just because a lab is the origin, there is no reason to fear the product.

Again, aspartame has been proven to be safe to consume. Unless you have PK. Which is very rare.

Actually penicillin comes from a fungi- I.e. it's origin is from nature. You can believe everything your government tells you, I choose to question their motives.

jonnythan

Unless I'm missing something major, no one said anything about putting aspartame into anything without putting it on the label.



..........and not change the label.................

Read the other article. By "change the label" they mean "stop calling it milk."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/aspartame-milk_n_2764729.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Iron_Pheonix

It's like Frankenmilk! Lol. Why can't they just leave it alone and stop trying to improve on nature?

Well, if we "stopped trying to improve on nature" you wouldn't have that cell phone, the internet, ibuprofen, penicillin, a car, etc etc etc.

I was referring to food- that's what the thread is about? How can you take something that was created by nature and improve on it? Phones, cars etc weren't ever created by nature.

You can improve on a tree by turning it into a desk. You can improve on a hunk of dirt by extracting silicon from it and making computer chips from them.

Ultimately, everything we have comes from nature. All the good things we have in life are a result of man improving on nature.

Cottage cheese doesn't just happen. We have to make it by improving on semolina. Etc etc.

Regardless, you don't even consume the products the article is talking about in the first place. I doubt if you're buying much HFCS-filled chocolate milk.

You think a tree looks better as a desk? How can that be improvement? It's not improvement, it's destruction of our natural environment.

No I don't why would I want to?

rainbowbow

you mean its NOT already in chocolate milk?

socajam

By whom ???????????