Aspartame in Milk?
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Makes me SOO glad I don't drink milk or other dairy products! But I am worried they might do this to soy or rice milks
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Fact: I didn't even notice a difference between each of your profile pictures. Does that mean I think you're both men? Women? Hacking something at the same time and not paying attention? Not sure. But I do know you're best buds. So cute sticking up for him
You just lost any shred of credibility you might have had.
And good job editing the post after being called out on the comment.
Also, In the 90's we always had chocolate milk in school. We have a choice between chocolate and white milk. There are plenty of fit 90's kids in the world who drank chocolate milk with lunch.0 -
Just don't drink the milk with aspartame in it if you don't want it? Is that not a solution?
There's clearly a market for products sweetened with aspartame to lower calories. I don't think that there is a reason to disallow it - no one is going to force you to drink the artificially sweetened milk.0 -
Why not just sweeten it NATURALLY? Why is that so friggin' hard?! Maybe with erythritol or stevia-- or even xylitol-- it prevents cavities, for goodness sake.
Why must be shove these awful chemicals down their throats? **Sigh**
I'm sure they could do that too, if it needs sweetening at all. Nobody is forcing anybody to drink chocolate milk, just like nobody is forcing anybody to drink coke, or juice or whatever.
Just drink plain milk, problem solved. NOBODY IS SUGGESTING ASPRTAME BE ADDED TO PLAIN MILK.
^^ so they're adding aspartame to my regular milk ?!? ( runs screaming lighting house on fire )0 -
Fact: I didn't even notice a difference between each of your profile pictures. Does that mean I think you're both men? Women? Hacking something at the same time and not paying attention? Not sure. But I do know you're best buds. So cute sticking up for him
i hope that made you feel better, since it's clearly clarified for the rest of us who needs to be relegated to the little kids table.
maybe trying growing up and leaving the personal attacks at home before playing again.
thanks for trying!0 -
I've not killed organisms with sodium arsenate, sodium arsenite, mercuric chloride, cadmium chloride, a variety of perflouroacids, aflatoxin, fumonisin, lead chloride, (running at a loss here, I forgot what else I've not killed things with).
Anyway, I had a point here, but I can't remember.0 -
Why not just sweeten it NATURALLY? Why is that so friggin' hard?! Maybe with erythritol or stevia-- or even xylitol-- it prevents cavities, for goodness sake.
Why must be shove these awful chemicals down their throats? **Sigh**
I'm sure they could do that too, if it needs sweetening at all. Nobody is forcing anybody to drink chocolate milk, just like nobody is forcing anybody to drink coke, or juice or whatever.
Just drink plain milk, problem solved. NOBODY IS SUGGESTING ASPRTAME BE ADDED TO PLAIN MILK.
^^ so they're adding aspartame to my regular milk ?!? ( runs screaming lighting house on fire )
^ Silly blondes hahaha :laugh:
Another joke in the making. How do you get a blonde to set her house on fire..? Tell her there is aspartame in her milk..:laugh:0 -
Maybe I'm confused? From what I read in the original article:Dairy industry groups have asked the Food and Drug Administration to be able to put artificial sweeteners in milk, and not change the label, claiming that it is so consumers can "more easily identify its overall nutritional value".
Isn't that what's happening? I'd like some clarification
The original article is terrible. Here is a better one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/aspartame-milk_n_2764729.html?utm_hp_ref=business
They are allowed to add sugar or HFCS to milk and still call it milk. For example "chocolate milk" always has HFCS or sugar added to it.
They want to be able to add zero-calorie sweeteners like aspartame, Stevia, etc, instead of HFCS/sugar and still sell the items as "chocolate milk." Right now, doing so is illegal.
I think it would be good to be able to buy "chocolate milk" that has aspartame or stevia instead of HFCS added to it.
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification! As long as it's labeled (cane sugar, HFCS, stevia, aspartame), then that's fine. As long as the consumer can see what's in the milk and decide based on that. Personally I don't consume aspartame because it gives me headaches and I try to avoid artificial sweeteners, but if someone who is, say, diabetic wants to buy chocolate milk, then it's a good option to have!
Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners. I do not use sugar, simple carbs or artificial sweeteners and I'm still here! In fact, my health has significantly improved.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1946186
Also protein is highly insulinogenic, best avoid that too
Protein is essential to the body.....aspartame is most definitely not! Nor are carbohydrates/sugar because the body creates it.
But in relation to this comment, "Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners", that aspartame should be avoided by type II's because it spikes insulin (even though it doesn't), then by the same logic, protein should be avoided too, since it spikes insulin
My doc confirmed that the research shows that artificial sweeteners DO spike insulin levels. Of course, all research is suspect now because it is often "science for hire" these days.
So how did your doc wade through all the literature to determine which was suspect and which was legit?
Don't know---maybe it was his observations of his Type II patients?0 -
I don't really drink milk, but I also don't care about aspartame.
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I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.0 -
Makes me SOO glad I don't drink milk or other dairy products! But I am worried they might do this to soy or rice milks
Guess what? They put synthetic Vitamin D2 in a lot of artificial "milks". D2 is very bad because it binds magnesium in the body--not a good thing for a majority of people who are already magnesium-deficient (as 85% of N. Americans are).0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Hated broccoli. Fact.0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Hated broccoli. Fact.
I like jelly beans. I hate broccoli. I also rarely know what's going on.0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Hated broccoli. Fact.
I like jelly beans. I hate broccoli. I also rarely know what's going on.
What about a Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Broccoli Bean?0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Hated broccoli. Fact.
I like jelly beans. I hate broccoli. I also rarely know what's going on.
My sample size of two proves that eating broccoli with your jelly beans will increase mental awareness!0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
You've been drinking Ronald Reagan's milk? You sick mo'fo.0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Hated broccoli. Fact.
Actually, I think it was Bush Sr. who said he hates broccoli.
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I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
You've been drinking Ronald Reagan's milk? You sick mo'fo.
I am a real American, fight for the rights of every man.0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Hated broccoli. Fact.
Actually, I think it was Bush Sr. who said he hates broccoli.
I knew it was one of those dudes.0 -
Fact: I didn't even notice a difference between each of your profile pictures. Does that mean I think you're both men? Women? Hacking something at the same time and not paying attention? Not sure. But I do know you're best buds. So cute sticking up for him
You cannot tell the difference between a man's torso and a woman's torso?? Or were you just being rude and insulting on purpose? Body shaming towards either sex is wrong. Shame on you.
I am going to assume there's nothing insulting about not being able to tell two ridiculously hot people apart.
WOof! *wags tail!* *pants* *drools a little*0 -
I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
You've been drinking Ronald Reagan's milk? You sick mo'fo.
I am a real American, fight for the rights of every man.
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I'm not gonna read this whole thread, but I hope you know that dairy cows are fed copious amounts of jelly beans to sweeten their milk.
That is all.
No, you're thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Hated broccoli. Fact.
I like jelly beans. I hate broccoli. I also rarely know what's going on.
What about a Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Broccoli Bean?
Why would anyone invent such a horrible thing? *sigh* Some people just want to watch the world burn, I suppose.0 -
Btw, for those that quote that aspartame contains methanol, phenylalanine and aspartic acid this is incorrect. It does not. It does however get metabolized in minute quantities into these component. Minute quantitites which are generally not dangerous (fruit contains higher concentrations of methanol and AA.) and PA is only dangerous for someone with PK. This quoted article from Mercola shows once again why that site is crap.0
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Oh, they don't gots to know about it. It could be our milk.0
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Not to mention we need calories for an insulin spike to occur, 0 calories, 0 spike.Maybe I'm confused? From what I read in the original article:Dairy industry groups have asked the Food and Drug Administration to be able to put artificial sweeteners in milk, and not change the label, claiming that it is so consumers can "more easily identify its overall nutritional value".
Isn't that what's happening? I'd like some clarification
The original article is terrible. Here is a better one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/aspartame-milk_n_2764729.html?utm_hp_ref=business
They are allowed to add sugar or HFCS to milk and still call it milk. For example "chocolate milk" always has HFCS or sugar added to it.
They want to be able to add zero-calorie sweeteners like aspartame, Stevia, etc, instead of HFCS/sugar and still sell the items as "chocolate milk." Right now, doing so is illegal.
I think it would be good to be able to buy "chocolate milk" that has aspartame or stevia instead of HFCS added to it.
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification! As long as it's labeled (cane sugar, HFCS, stevia, aspartame), then that's fine. As long as the consumer can see what's in the milk and decide based on that. Personally I don't consume aspartame because it gives me headaches and I try to avoid artificial sweeteners, but if someone who is, say, diabetic wants to buy chocolate milk, then it's a good option to have!
Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners. I do not use sugar, simple carbs or artificial sweeteners and I'm still here! In fact, my health has significantly improved.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1946186
Also protein is highly insulinogenic, best avoid that too
Protein is essential to the body.....aspartame is most definitely not! Nor are carbohydrates/sugar because the body creates it.
But in relation to this comment, "Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners", that aspartame should be avoided by type II's because it spikes insulin (even though it doesn't), then by the same logic, protein should be avoided too, since it spikes insulin
My doc confirmed that the research shows that artificial sweeteners DO spike insulin levels. Of course, all research is suspect now because it is often "science for hire" these days.
So how did your doc wade through all the literature to determine which was suspect and which was legit?0 -
Not to mention we need calories for an insulin spike to occur, 0 calories, 0 spike.Maybe I'm confused? From what I read in the original article:Dairy industry groups have asked the Food and Drug Administration to be able to put artificial sweeteners in milk, and not change the label, claiming that it is so consumers can "more easily identify its overall nutritional value".
Isn't that what's happening? I'd like some clarification
The original article is terrible. Here is a better one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/aspartame-milk_n_2764729.html?utm_hp_ref=business
They are allowed to add sugar or HFCS to milk and still call it milk. For example "chocolate milk" always has HFCS or sugar added to it.
They want to be able to add zero-calorie sweeteners like aspartame, Stevia, etc, instead of HFCS/sugar and still sell the items as "chocolate milk." Right now, doing so is illegal.
I think it would be good to be able to buy "chocolate milk" that has aspartame or stevia instead of HFCS added to it.
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification! As long as it's labeled (cane sugar, HFCS, stevia, aspartame), then that's fine. As long as the consumer can see what's in the milk and decide based on that. Personally I don't consume aspartame because it gives me headaches and I try to avoid artificial sweeteners, but if someone who is, say, diabetic wants to buy chocolate milk, then it's a good option to have!
Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners. I do not use sugar, simple carbs or artificial sweeteners and I'm still here! In fact, my health has significantly improved.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1946186
Also protein is highly insulinogenic, best avoid that too
Protein is essential to the body.....aspartame is most definitely not! Nor are carbohydrates/sugar because the body creates it.
But in relation to this comment, "Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners", that aspartame should be avoided by type II's because it spikes insulin (even though it doesn't), then by the same logic, protein should be avoided too, since it spikes insulin
My doc confirmed that the research shows that artificial sweeteners DO spike insulin levels. Of course, all research is suspect now because it is often "science for hire" these days.
So how did your doc wade through all the literature to determine which was suspect and which was legit?
An article published in the journal "Hormone and Metabolic Research" in 1987 reported that the artificial sweetener acesulfame-K increases the release of insulin. Until more is known about the long-term effects, I would give them a wide berth.0 -
I so love your persistence. :drinker:0 -
So have you guys decided who is right and who is wrong yet? Will there be pie and punch served at the end?0
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Maybe I'm confused? From what I read in the original article:Dairy industry groups have asked the Food and Drug Administration to be able to put artificial sweeteners in milk, and not change the label, claiming that it is so consumers can "more easily identify its overall nutritional value".
Isn't that what's happening? I'd like some clarification
The original article is terrible. Here is a better one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/aspartame-milk_n_2764729.html?utm_hp_ref=business
They are allowed to add sugar or HFCS to milk and still call it milk. For example "chocolate milk" always has HFCS or sugar added to it.
They want to be able to add zero-calorie sweeteners like aspartame, Stevia, etc, instead of HFCS/sugar and still sell the items as "chocolate milk." Right now, doing so is illegal.
I think it would be good to be able to buy "chocolate milk" that has aspartame or stevia instead of HFCS added to it.
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification! As long as it's labeled (cane sugar, HFCS, stevia, aspartame), then that's fine. As long as the consumer can see what's in the milk and decide based on that. Personally I don't consume aspartame because it gives me headaches and I try to avoid artificial sweeteners, but if someone who is, say, diabetic wants to buy chocolate milk, then it's a good option to have!
Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners. I do not use sugar, simple carbs or artificial sweeteners and I'm still here! In fact, my health has significantly improved.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1946186
Also protein is highly insulinogenic, best avoid that too
Protein is essential to the body.....aspartame is most definitely not! Nor are carbohydrates/sugar because the body creates it.
But in relation to this comment, "Research has shown that artificial sweeteners cause insulin spikes and those insulin spikes make the Type II diabetic person ravenous! They would be much better off without artificial sweeteners", that aspartame should be avoided by type II's because it spikes insulin (even though it doesn't), then by the same logic, protein should be avoided too, since it spikes insulin
Technically protein will not spike insulin to the same extent that consumption of a carbohydrate/sugar will. I don't think you can group the two together. A diabetic can consume a great deal more protein without a rise in blood sugars in comparison to carbohydrate. Lets remember a diabetic does not respond to insulin.
Depends on the protein and carb in question
Holt et al. An insulin index of foods: the insulin demand generated by 1000-kJ portions of common foods. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol 66, 1264-1276
http://www.ajcn.org/content/66/5/1264.full.pdf+html
also
The insulinogenic effect of whey protein is partially mediated by a direct effect of amino acids and GIP on β-cells
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/9/1/48
Your using whey protein as an example? Of course whey protein (assuming in powdered form) will raise insulin. That's the whold purpose of it being consumed in that form. Compare chicken to white rice and tell me it gives the same response?
How about grilled steak or steamed fish? See the first link I put in the response
And I think you're missing the point, the comment I responded to said diabetics should avoid something since it spikes insulin, I am giving examples of foods that spike insulin, so she can respond and say if they should also be avoided due to the dreaded insulin spike
In your first link, in the conclusion it states that when protein and fat are consumed with the addition of carbohydrates that there is always an increased insulin response. It therefore still confirms that consuming these items without carbohydrate is therefore going to cause a much smaller insulin response.
No I do understand your point but you therefore need to quote research that directly corresponds to whether aspartame increases insulin or not.
I'm guessing you didn't actually read through it :ohwell:0
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