When is 1200 calories appropriate? (hint: almost never)

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  • rems2012
    rems2012 Posts: 33 Member
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    bump for later!
  • ellaloveslove
    ellaloveslove Posts: 166 Member
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    Yawns. *eye roll*

    I'm always amazed at the amount of people so focused on what other people are doing and eating....

    Less to do with focusing on what other people are doing and eating and more to do with having fallen into that trap ourselves, learning the science, climbing back out and back on track... and wanting to pass on that knowledge.

    Don't like it? Then don't read it!

    Agreed, and also because the forums are flooded with people posting threads that are something along the lines of Help I'm Only Eating 1200 calories a day Why Can't I lose Weight?
    I agree, if someone wants to only eat that little, or do a starving diet, it's their bodies they can if they want, but if it doesn't work don't ignore all of the good advice on the forums about better alternatives for fat loss.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
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    wow im new here, and im totally shocked, I think to good weight loss is a positive attitude and no mater what the topic is I see a lot of negative here, I have struggled with my weight for the past 4 years and I tried just bout everything and nothing worked, but now I have mfp that helps a lot, and a wicked support group here at home and that seems to have made all the difference, nocked out all the junk foods and turned to more fruit and vegies which I use to hate but now love as well as working out on my elliptical every day, as for how many calories I think that really depends on the person, what there body type is how active they are and whether they have a high or low metabolism, so to be healthy I think its about what your eating and doing rather then just the calories, good work to every one and keep it going and stay happy!!

    If you're not eating enough you're not healthy.

    No one is immune to the laws of thermodynamics.
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,735 Member
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    wow im new here, and im totally shocked, I think to good weight loss is a positive attitude and no mater what the topic is I see a lot of negative here, I have struggled with my weight for the past 4 years and I tried just bout everything and nothing worked, but now I have mfp that helps a lot, and a wicked support group here at home and that seems to have made all the difference, nocked out all the junk foods and turned to more fruit and vegies which I use to hate but now love as well as working out on my elliptical every day, as for how many calories I think that really depends on the person, what there body type is how active they are and whether they have a high or low metabolism, so to be healthy I think its about what your eating and doing rather then just the calories, good work to every one and keep it going and stay happy!!

    If you're not eating enough you're not healthy.

    No one is immune to the laws of thermodynamics.

    also, a 1200 calorie diet is very difficult to maintain over the long term while still getting sufficient dietary fats and protein.

    i wonder how many of the people trying to stick to this calorie level are even monitoring their macros and whether or not their macros are set correctly.

    1g carbs = 4 calories
    1g protein = 4 calories
    1g fat = 9 calories

    there is a small percentage of people for whom 1200 calories can be correct. for most people it's not. and for the ones who are sticking to this calorie level, i suspect many are not getting enough fats or protein in their daily diets and are completely unaware of that problem. i'd be curious to see an honest assessment of how some of these people have their macros set and whether or not they were meeting their requirements day in and day out.
  • HotrodsGirl0107
    HotrodsGirl0107 Posts: 243 Member
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    I have to disagree. :)

    I'm 26, 5'2, 138lbs. I did 1200cal or less for 6mo on weight watchers to lose 30lbs over 6 months in 2008. I've maintained 138lbs for 5 years STILL doing 1200cal most days. I'm a bit more lenient on weekends but if I feel myself gain any weight, I cut back for the next week to make sure I maintain. 1200 cal is perfect for me because I work 9-5 in IT then come home and do grad school work. I've found nothing wrong, dangerous, or unhealthy about eating 1200cal a day.

    Math.

    You MAINTAIN on 1200 calories?
  • estelle74uk
    estelle74uk Posts: 465 Member
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    I just wanna say, i havent read all these but im 5' 2, 38, weigh 111lbs and am maintaining on 1900+ whilst lifting heavy and 3 x HIT spinning

    Been doing the 1200 ish for so long having to set my base again. Love eating more, and its doing nothing but wonders for me.

    Love eating
  • justinehearts
    justinehearts Posts: 2 Member
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    Hi there,

    I would really appreciate if you could give me what my numbers should be. I lost 30kg in 2011 doing optifast 800 and then fell pregnant, which has made everything different, so while this year I have lost around 9kg I still have so far to go, and just need a definitive answer because my instincts and information are all screwy.

    I am 35, 5'3, 196lbs. my workplace is sedentary but I have 3-40 minutes PT 3 times a week, and 1 spin class as well.

    can you pretty please tell me what calories I should be eating to ideally drop 1kg a week (sorry I am actually an aussie but converted all my figures above) thanks so much in advance!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    Hi there,

    I would really appreciate if you could give me what my numbers should be. I lost 30kg in 2011 doing optifast 800 and then fell pregnant, which has made everything different, so while this year I have lost around 9kg I still have so far to go, and just need a definitive answer because my instincts and information are all screwy.

    I am 35, 5'3, 196lbs. my workplace is sedentary but I have 3-40 minutes PT 3 times a week, and 1 spin class as well.

    can you pretty please tell me what calories I should be eating to ideally drop 1kg a week (sorry I am actually an aussie but converted all my figures above) thanks so much in advance!

    Spreadsheet on my profile page.

    I'm guessing 40 min PT sessions are equal in effort to say walking 3-4 mph?
    And spin class is 45-60 min long?

    Correct me if wrong above, or use the spreadsheet actually, to also get a decent bodyfat % estimate, and get better figures to use. This BMR is likely inflated, therefore the numbers are too. And log your progress in inches and lbs.

    Mifflin BMR - 1553 (Katch based on BF% likely lower)
    TDEE for 120 min medium cardio and 52 min high cardio - 2128
    Total Daily Eating Goal - 1553 (thats 27% deficit for now, but that will creep down as you have less to lose).

    Carbs - 45%, prot - 30%, fat - 25%

    Eat that daily, if you log exercise, do it after meeting your goal, or log as 1 calorie burned, or memorize 1550 as goal to hit. 50 over is better than 100 under.

    The goal here is to retain muscle mass, so the TDEG wouldn't go down that fast as weight went down and fat is lost.
  • LyricDz
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    THIS is what I want help with. I've been trying to do 1220 calories per day as calculated by MFP but I have been reading a bit and I think it might be too low? According to MFP I should be losing a kg per week on that alone, and I'm not. Plus I'm exercising 3-4 times per week. Getting so frustrated. I have a lot of weight to lose and I want to feel like it's actually working.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    THIS is what I want help with. I've been trying to do 1220 calories per day as calculated by MFP but I have been reading a bit and I think it might be too low? According to MFP I should be losing a kg per week on that alone, and I'm not. Plus I'm exercising 3-4 times per week. Getting so frustrated. I have a lot of weight to lose and I want to feel like it's actually working.

    So you accepted MFP calc of 1220 per day net eating goal.

    Which was actually based on your selection of non-exercise activity level (honest on that?) and weight loss goal amount, did you use recommended 1 lb weekly?

    Are you accepting MFP method of doing it, namely you log that exercise and eat back those exercise calories?
    You follow their calorie recommendation, make sure you follow their method too.

    Working out that decent amount, you'd probably like to benefit from the exercise, right, see improvements? Fuel those workouts by following the prescribed method.

    And if the calories seem inflated on the workout days, who cares, it'll hopefully make up for it being to small on non-workout days.
  • Stephaniejanehill
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    I'm on 1250 calories at the moment and I am not sure if I should increase it- I know everyone here seems to be saying that I do have to.. But I am stuffed? I am logginf correctly and my stomach is chock-a-block full on 844 cals right now.. That's with eating a good diet of veggies tuna and eggs mostly today. Surely if I eat healthily enough then this number of calories is fine?
  • smoofinator
    smoofinator Posts: 635 Member
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    Is this still a reliable calculator to determine intake??

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
  • DaisyGrammy
    DaisyGrammy Posts: 148 Member
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    OK...I"m wayyyyyy confused now. MFP has set MY calories to be 1200. How do I find out how many calories I'm supposed to be eating???
  • justinehearts
    justinehearts Posts: 2 Member
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    Hi there,

    I would really appreciate if you could give me what my numbers should be. I lost 30kg in 2011 doing optifast 800 and then fell pregnant, which has made everything different, so while this year I have lost around 9kg I still have so far to go, and just need a definitive answer because my instincts and information are all screwy.

    I am 35, 5'3, 196lbs. my workplace is sedentary but I have 3-40 minutes PT 3 times a week, and 1 spin class as well.

    can you pretty please tell me what calories I should be eating to ideally drop 1kg a week (sorry I am actually an aussie but converted all my figures above) thanks so much in advance!

    Spreadsheet on my profile page.

    I'm guessing 40 min PT sessions are equal in effort to say walking 3-4 mph?
    And spin class is 45-60 min long?

    Correct me if wrong above, or use the spreadsheet actually, to also get a decent bodyfat % estimate, and get better figures to use. This BMR is likely inflated, therefore the numbers are too. And log your progress in inches and lbs.

    Mifflin BMR - 1553 (Katch based on BF% likely lower)
    TDEE for 120 min medium cardio and 52 min high cardio - 2128
    Total Daily Eating Goal - 1553 (thats 27% deficit for now, but that will creep down as you have less to lose).

    Carbs - 45%, prot - 30%, fat - 25%

    Eat that daily, if you log exercise, do it after meeting your goal, or log as 1 calorie burned, or memorize 1550 as goal to hit. 50 over is better than 100 under.

    The goal here is to retain muscle mass, so the TDEG wouldn't go down that fast as weight went down and fat is lost.

    thank you for this! I have jumped in and am using your spreadsheet and its a bit daunting but it is also helping me focus. so I should just aim for TDEG as 1550 but its better for me to be just over it than to not eat enough calories? I hope I understand that correctly. thanks again!
  • tinakowalik
    tinakowalik Posts: 73 Member
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    Ok, confused now, I to was set to 1200 cals a day, and was working through the summer for me, losing about 2 pounds a week. But I ate my 1200-ish, going over slightly sometimes, and I would work off sometimes over that. Farm work, and workouts. Now I've been stalled for months. The last 5-10 won't come off. So what I'm reading is say I worked off 1300 cals, would I then need to eat 2500 cals in that one day, eating back what I worked off too?
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    I'm on 1250 calories at the moment and I am not sure if I should increase it- I know everyone here seems to be saying that I do have to.. But I am stuffed? I am logginf correctly and my stomach is chock-a-block full on 844 cals right now.. That's with eating a good diet of veggies tuna and eggs mostly today. Surely if I eat healthily enough then this number of calories is fine?

    No.

    Your body can be starved for nutrition (vit and min) and eat a bunch of junk food eating your caloric needs for maintenance and keep your weight.

    How long does it take your body to show the signs of vitamin or mineral deficiency?
    Does your body feel like it needs it while it's lacking it?
    What are the outcome symptoms when it finally shows up you've been missing those needed things, and how serious then?


    Your body can be starved for energy (calories) and eat a bunch of very nutrition foods way under your caloric needs for maintaining weight and lose weight - muscle mass actually.

    How long does it take for your body to adapt to not getting enough calories for basic functions of human life, let alone growing new hair, skin, nails, such that it just slows you down to compensate?
    Will you body always show that it needs more by being hungry or a shrunken stomach?
    What are the eventual symptoms of eating like that?
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    Is this still a reliable calculator to determine intake??

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    Reliable as MFP is since you are selecting the options.

    You gonna be honest with daily activity and exercise added together?
    You gonna take a reasonable deficit selection for amount to lose?

    Is 1 hr of walking the same as 1 hr of lifting as 1 hr of running?

    Spreadsheet on my profile page can help - stick on Simple Setup tab for all the same stats you'd provide anywhere. Except more detail on your activity.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    OK...I"m wayyyyyy confused now. MFP has set MY calories to be 1200. How do I find out how many calories I'm supposed to be eating???

    MFP did the math on the options you selected, so really you made it come out to 1200.

    Really sedentary in daily life?
    Select recommended 1 lb loss weekly?

    Are you logging and eating back exercise calories?
    Which can balance many times the MFP recommendation being too low for most.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    Spreadsheet on my profile page.

    thank you for this! I have jumped in and am using your spreadsheet and its a bit daunting but it is also helping me focus. so I should just aim for TDEG as 1550 but its better for me to be just over it than to not eat enough calories? I hope I understand that correctly. thanks again!

    Just stay on the Simple Setup tab as it says, well, use the Progress tab to log progress too.

    But how many personal stats on the Simple Setup tab that you didn't know, or at least after getting measurements are glad you do know now?

    Yes, 50 over is better than 100 below, like if you need a final snack to get you over the amount, as opposed to missing it by 200 calories. 50 over you still have a deficit.

    Notice, compared to what you estimated burn daily, you are eating less daily.

    Eating less than you burn is what causes weight loss, make it reasonable and it can hopefully be just fat loss, not muscle loss.
  • Megislosingit
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    I'm 24 years old, 5 foot 8 inches, and a female and I've been eating 1200 for about 6 weeks now and have been losing weight pretty slowly. I just bumped my calories up to 1300 but I feel like I should even be eating more than that. I was able to eat at 1200 calories without getting too hungry because I was working out.

    I'm thinking about bumping up the calories to 1450. hmmm