The Protein Myth

mmapags

I have to rattle a cage. It seems to be "common knowledge" on mfp that everyone needs loads of protein to A. Lose fat, and B. Increase strength and that it's imperative that normal people have a protein shake after each strength work out. I'm not talking about heavy lifting, I'm talking about your basic run of the mill strength workouts so if you want to lecture about heavy lifting and protein move along as that is not what I'm talking about. So I'm wondering why that is and why everyone says mfp's settings for protein are "too low" for most people. When someone asks about protein, someone had to come in and say their setting is "too low" because it's what mfp set for them. Why would mfp set it too low really? If it was too low wouldn't they have corrected it? Wouldn't there be a huge disclaimer about it being "too low"? Is it impossible for someone to lose fat and get stronger with 50g -70g of protein? To most mfp "experts" yes, how did this rumor come about that mfp settings are too low and that people need 100g of protein to lose fat?

Somehow, as usual, this thread got way off track from the original post.

It is possible to lose fat on 50 to 70g or protein. It isn't necessary to gulp down a protein shake after 20 minutes of 30 Day Shred. There's a huge difference between an athlete eating to perform to their fullest potential and an overweight housewife sweatin' to the oldies.

The OP is right, as soon as someone asks about nutrition out come the big guns with suggestions to eat more protein and which protein powder is the best. If that's the way you choose to get your nutrition, fine but you can be fit and healthy without making the sellers of all this stuff rich.

The seller's of what stuff? Protein powder? Most people can get 1 gram per lb of lean body mass per day just from food if they choose. If someone chooses to utilize protein powder, that's up to them. It is an inexpensive and effective suur pplement. I use it daily most of the time to get about 50 of my 162 gram target per day. It costs me about $1.50 per day. Hardly expensive or making anyone rich!! lol Some day's I get all my protein from whole food sources.

So, it's all about your goals. If you think the most effcient was to achieve you goals is 50 to 70 grams per day, that's up to you. For optimum body composition and muscle recovery/ growth, that would only get it if that was your lean mass amout. Do what you want.

No_Finish_Line

Bob on Biggest Loser told a contestant that they should eat protein after a workout to help rebuild the muscles.

only watched the biggest loser a few times, but noticed that the last thing one of the trainers said when they exited the gym was 'now lets go eat'. personally i think post exercise nutrion is very important.

I don't really know about the protein issue. I just know that the 'bodybuilding community' has generally suggested at least 1 g per lbs body weight or even 2.

Doesn't seem that the pervailing school of thought amoungst nurtionists agrees with this. Thats probably why MFP sets as they do.

How much protein should i be eating while doing X is just one of the many questions that doesn't yet have a definetive answer in the world of fitness, tho many on both sides will claim that its an open and shut case.

but i like to eat meat and i like my protein powder and i like to lift a LOT. I'm probably not hurting myself by taking in excess protein, while the possibility exists that i'm under cutting my gains by not eating enough. i shoot for a little over 1 g per lbs most of the time to be safe.

Cr01502

I have to rattle a cage. It seems to be "common knowledge" on mfp that everyone needs loads of protein to A. Lose fat, and B. Increase strength and that it's imperative that normal people have a protein shake after each strength work out. I'm not talking about heavy lifting, I'm talking about your basic run of the mill strength workouts so if you want to lecture about heavy lifting and protein move along as that is not what I'm talking about. So I'm wondering why that is and why everyone says mfp's settings for protein are "too low" for most people. When someone asks about protein, someone had to come in and say their setting is "too low" because it's what mfp set for them. Why would mfp set it too low really? If it was too low wouldn't they have corrected it? Wouldn't there be a huge disclaimer about it being "too low"? Is it impossible for someone to lose fat and get stronger with 50g -70g of protein? To most mfp "experts" yes, how did this rumor come about that mfp settings are too low and that people need 100g of protein to lose fat?

Glad you came in here with your very well researched data of "wouldn't MFP do this?"

Clearly you are one of these "experts" you intend to criticise.

Thanks for playing . . . .

Matt_Wild

I have to rattle a cage. It seems to be "common knowledge" on mfp that everyone needs loads of protein to A. Lose fat, and B. Increase strength and that it's imperative that normal people have a protein shake after each strength work out. I'm not talking about heavy lifting, I'm talking about your basic run of the mill strength workouts so if you want to lecture about heavy lifting and protein move along as that is not what I'm talking about. So I'm wondering why that is and why everyone says mfp's settings for protein are "too low" for most people. When someone asks about protein, someone had to come in and say their setting is "too low" because it's what mfp set for them. Why would mfp set it too low really? If it was too low wouldn't they have corrected it? Wouldn't there be a huge disclaimer about it being "too low"? Is it impossible for someone to lose fat and get stronger with 50g -70g of protein? To most mfp "experts" yes, how did this rumor come about that mfp settings are too low and that people need 100g of protein to lose fat?

Glad you came in here with your very well researched data of "wouldn't MFP do this?"

Clearly you are one of these "experts" you intend to criticise.

Thanks for playing . . . .

Agreed.

Considering protein has a higher TEF, it useful to have in ones diet, not to mention it is easier to feel full on protein/fats.

Of course there is nothing wrong with carbs, at all, whatsoever.

However, why not use the most efficient method and one that makes the whole thing less arduous?

mmapags

I have to rattle a cage. It seems to be "common knowledge" on mfp that everyone needs loads of protein to A. Lose fat, and B. Increase strength and that it's imperative that normal people have a protein shake after each strength work out. I'm not talking about heavy lifting, I'm talking about your basic run of the mill strength workouts so if you want to lecture about heavy lifting and protein move along as that is not what I'm talking about. So I'm wondering why that is and why everyone says mfp's settings for protein are "too low" for most people. When someone asks about protein, someone had to come in and say their setting is "too low" because it's what mfp set for them. Why would mfp set it too low really? If it was too low wouldn't they have corrected it? Wouldn't there be a huge disclaimer about it being "too low"? Is it impossible for someone to lose fat and get stronger with 50g -70g of protein? To most mfp "experts" yes, how did this rumor come about that mfp settings are too low and that people need 100g of protein to lose fat?

Glad you came in here with your very well researched data of "wouldn't MFP do this?"

Clearly you are one of these "experts" you intend to criticise.

Thanks for playing . . . .

Agreed.

Considering protein has a higher TEF, it useful to have in ones diet, not to mention it is easier to feel full on protein/fats.

Of course there is nothing wrong with carbs, at all, whatsoever.

However, why not use the most efficient method and one that makes the whole thing less arduous?

aaaaaand which, based on all available scientific info is completely safe for an otherwise healthy person?