Meat & non-eat meaters (READ ME)
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I don't eat meat, but not because meat is gross or unhealthy, but because I don't believe in the inhumane treatment of animals before they're killed for food. It's one thing to take somethings life - it's another thing to treat it like garbage, abuse, and torture it, and then kill it. I WISH I did eat meat, because eating chicken would make my dietary life 300% easier, it's just not a choice I make. That being said, while I do eat Morning Star Farms and other vegan/vegetarian faux meats, I kinda consider them junk food. They are made with a bunch of crap, basically, and there are much healthier things out there to eat, meat based or not, for sure.0
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This is a joke right? Why would you eat soy-based franken-foods over real, ACTUAL food? Meat is food. Sorry of you feel differently. And "low-fat"? Fat, my friend, is YOUR friend.
Search "Why is soy bad for you".
I realize you can search the same for "meat" and get lots of hits that meat is bad, but if you use COMMON SENSE, you would have to admit that animal-based food has obviously been here, for oh, millions and millsions of years and is obviously the way we've evolved to eat (along with those crops we can gather -- lots of yummy veggies, fruits, tubers, nuts, seeds.) Why does this continue to elude people? We've been here a LONG time, eating this way a LONG time. Maybe it's right?? Hmmm, go figure.
If you search you can also find a lot of studies and information stating that soy is not all that bad for you provided you are not consuming a very large quantity of it.
Meat is food yes, but some do not choose to consume it.
Everyone can eat however they would like... just don't preach that one way is better than the other. A meat eating diet can be good. A vegan diet can be good. A vegetarian diet can be good. They all can actually be bad as well. No diet is better or worse than the other.
Fermented soy is the only soy that is not bad for us.0 -
I'll stick with meat, thanks.0
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I feel better when I eat meat. I've tried being vegetarian, pescetarian, etc. I like meat and feel better when I eat it. I don't need to eat crazy processed foods to obtain the same benefits I can get from something I kill myself. I don't like many industrial meat practices, so I understand some of your point. I have no moral qualms with eating animals. I am a firm believer in the food chain and unlike many, however remote a chance this is, I am probably more likely to be attacked by a grizzly than car-jacked where I live. So, I also understand that I am part of the food chain.
I like to participate in responsible game management practices to control winter kill, starvation, and chronic diseases in the area wild game populations. I am present in the process of killing animals, butchering them, and eating them...just like humans have been doing for centuries. Meat is not something I just buy at a store. It's something that I see from start to finish...and in a way, I respect and even revere the life force that another animal is giving to me in this process.0 -
Because meat, poultry and pork are far more delicious and nutritious.
BTW - we have canine teeth because we are carnivores by nature. But if you want to be a herbivore that is fine, just dont try to press your views on me!
Yes *daydreaming of bacon now*
Then why does it take forever for meat to process through our body unlike carnivores that get rid of it rather quickly
OMG, such a myth...............meat does not take that long to pass through our bodies........what a crock. Next thing you will be suggesting for us omnivores is to do cleanses to wash that 5 years of meat out of our intestines, LOL :laugh: :laugh:0 -
i love eating chicken, fish, i love eating animals and i love eating vegetable both are nice0
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<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.0 -
Because I raise my own pastured chickens and I eat them. I raise heritage breed Dominiques. They are naturally breeding, and I'm always going to have excess roosters. Always. I only need one rooster for every five to six hens to have maximum fertility. It's not really possible to rehome boys. Everyone wants girls for the eggs, but no one wants a bunch of roosters around that are going to fight. I kill them myself as humanely as possible. I know what they've had to eat their entire lives, I know where they've lived. I take responsibility for feeding myself and my family, and I feel good knowing that our food is clean. When we eat other meat, I buy from local farmers that I know and I approve of their standards.
I am always baffled by the phrase "humane killing".0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
He didnt say he eats at whole foods? That's your assumption. Some of us but our meat from the farm and buy our vegetables from farm shops. Grok most certainly did not live on vegetation alone.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
Nice job assuming. For all you know he hunts or raises his own food. Doesn't matter either way, meat is meat. And you question why meat eaters get grouchy at the superior attitude of vegans on these threads. You are a shining example.0 -
Because I raise my own pastured chickens and I eat them. I raise heritage breed Dominiques. They are naturally breeding, and I'm always going to have excess roosters. Always. I only need one rooster for every five to six hens to have maximum fertility. It's not really possible to rehome boys. Everyone wants girls for the eggs, but no one wants a bunch of roosters around that are going to fight. I kill them myself as humanely as possible. I know what they've had to eat their entire lives, I know where they've lived. I take responsibility for feeding myself and my family, and I feel good knowing that our food is clean. When we eat other meat, I buy from local farmers that I know and I approve of their standards.
I am always baffled by the phrase "humane killing".
That is why she said as "humanely as possible". Continue to stay baffled.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
He didnt say he eats at whole foods? That's your assumption. Some of us but our meat from the farm and buy our vegetables from farm shops. Grok most certainly did not live on vegetation alone.
Not to split hairs, but I think these ancestors everyone is referring to usually only lived to about 30 years of age.0 -
Because I raise my own pastured chickens and I eat them. I raise heritage breed Dominiques. They are naturally breeding, and I'm always going to have excess roosters. Always. I only need one rooster for every five to six hens to have maximum fertility. It's not really possible to rehome boys. Everyone wants girls for the eggs, but no one wants a bunch of roosters around that are going to fight. I kill them myself as humanely as possible. I know what they've had to eat their entire lives, I know where they've lived. I take responsibility for feeding myself and my family, and I feel good knowing that our food is clean. When we eat other meat, I buy from local farmers that I know and I approve of their standards.
I am always baffled by the phrase "humane killing".
I figure if I cause them no more fear and pain than a natural predator of theirs then it's "as humane as possible". My animals all know me and I can pick them up without startling them, carry them away from the rest of the flock, and kill them quickly, at least, more quickly than a hawk or coyote would do. A standard factory farmed chicken is a lot more miserable for a lot longer than one of mine.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
He didnt say he eats at whole foods? That's your assumption. Some of us but our meat from the farm and buy our vegetables from farm shops. Grok most certainly did not live on vegetation alone.
Not to split hairs, but I think these ancestors everyone is referring to usually only lived to about 30 years of age.
Common misconception. In prehistoric times, people routinely lived to be 70 or more.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
Nice job assuming. For all you know he hunts or raises his own food. Doesn't matter either way, meat is meat. And you question why meat eaters get grouchy at the superior attitude of vegans on these threads. You are a shining example.
You know I'm better than you. Not because I'm vegetarian but because I was making a joke, you got all booty hurt and missed the ;P from my post which made it a playful.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
You think our digestive systems know or care what kind of container the food may have been in before eating it?0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
He didnt say he eats at whole foods? That's your assumption. Some of us but our meat from the farm and buy our vegetables from farm shops. Grok most certainly did not live on vegetation alone.
Not to split hairs, but I think these ancestors everyone is referring to usually only lived to about 30 years of age.
That's because many died at birth, were eaten by predators or had accidents. They had no heart disease, cancer, obesity etc...0 -
How is that a substitue??? You're replacing real food with frankenfood. Have you looked at the ingredient list? Oh wait food doesn't contain ingredients. Food IS an ingredient.
Red meat is good for you.
http://chriskresser.com/red-meat-it-does-a-body-good
http://www.gnolls.org/1444/does-meat-rot-in-your-colon-no-what-does-beans-grains-and-vegetables/
http://www.gnolls.org/2893/always-be-skeptical-of-nutrition-headlines-or-what-red-meat-consumption-and-mortality-pan-et-al-really-tells-us/0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
Nice job assuming. For all you know he hunts or raises his own food. Doesn't matter either way, meat is meat. And you question why meat eaters get grouchy at the superior attitude of vegans on these threads. You are a shining example.
You know I'm better than you. Not because I'm vegetarian but because I was making a joke, you got all booty hurt and missed the ;P from my post which made it a playful.
You just lost all credibility.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
Nice job assuming. For all you know he hunts or raises his own food. Doesn't matter either way, meat is meat. And you question why meat eaters get grouchy at the superior attitude of vegans on these threads. You are a shining example.
You know I'm better than you. Not because I'm vegetarian but because I was making a joke, you got all booty hurt and missed the ;P from my post which made it a playful.
Fail again. You have been crying the whole thread about how mean us meat eaters are. Get over yourself already.0 -
Because I raise my own pastured chickens and I eat them. I raise heritage breed Dominiques. They are naturally breeding, and I'm always going to have excess roosters. Always. I only need one rooster for every five to six hens to have maximum fertility. It's not really possible to rehome boys. Everyone wants girls for the eggs, but no one wants a bunch of roosters around that are going to fight. I kill them myself as humanely as possible. I know what they've had to eat their entire lives, I know where they've lived. I take responsibility for feeding myself and my family, and I feel good knowing that our food is clean. When we eat other meat, I buy from local farmers that I know and I approve of their standards.
I am always baffled by the phrase "humane killing".
I'm always baffled by people that think if they stop eating meat it will stop the inhumane treatment of animals on factory farms instead of actively trying to change it.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
Nice job assuming. For all you know he hunts or raises his own food. Doesn't matter either way, meat is meat. And you question why meat eaters get grouchy at the superior attitude of vegans on these threads. You are a shining example.
You know I'm better than you. Not because I'm vegetarian but because I was making a joke, you got all booty hurt and missed the ;P from my post which made it a playful.
Fail again. You have been crying the whole thread about how mean us meat eaters are. Get over yourself already.
lol I never said all meat eaters are mean, some are nice. Then there's other who think it's their cue to say "mmmm bacon" or "OMG ALL VEGETARIANS EATS IS PROCRESSED CRAP!" If that doesn't apply to you then you don't have to respond because I'm not talking to you.0 -
Because I raise my own pastured chickens and I eat them. I raise heritage breed Dominiques. They are naturally breeding, and I'm always going to have excess roosters. Always. I only need one rooster for every five to six hens to have maximum fertility. It's not really possible to rehome boys. Everyone wants girls for the eggs, but no one wants a bunch of roosters around that are going to fight. I kill them myself as humanely as possible. I know what they've had to eat their entire lives, I know where they've lived. I take responsibility for feeding myself and my family, and I feel good knowing that our food is clean. When we eat other meat, I buy from local farmers that I know and I approve of their standards.
I am always baffled by the phrase "humane killing".
I'm always baffled by people that think if they stop eating meat it will stop the inhumane treatment of animals on factory farms instead of actively trying to change it.
It's called supply and demand like when people boycott brands, businesses, it's a form of activism.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
My body isn't made to process meat. Omg. Makes me ill and constipated. Nice. haha.
People should do what they feel is right for THEM and let everyone else do the same.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
He didnt say he eats at whole foods? That's your assumption. Some of us but our meat from the farm and buy our vegetables from farm shops. Grok most certainly did not live on vegetation alone.
Not to split hairs, but I think these ancestors everyone is referring to usually only lived to about 30 years of age.
Common misconception. In prehistoric times, people routinely lived to be 70 or more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Human_life_expectancy_patterns
You'd better let wikipedia know.0 -
Because I raise my own pastured chickens and I eat them. I raise heritage breed Dominiques. They are naturally breeding, and I'm always going to have excess roosters. Always. I only need one rooster for every five to six hens to have maximum fertility. It's not really possible to rehome boys. Everyone wants girls for the eggs, but no one wants a bunch of roosters around that are going to fight. I kill them myself as humanely as possible. I know what they've had to eat their entire lives, I know where they've lived. I take responsibility for feeding myself and my family, and I feel good knowing that our food is clean. When we eat other meat, I buy from local farmers that I know and I approve of their standards.
I am always baffled by the phrase "humane killing".
I'm always baffled by people that think if they stop eating meat it will stop the inhumane treatment of animals on factory farms instead of actively trying to change it.
It's called supply and demand like when people boycott brands, businesses, it's a form of activism.
I know about supply and demand, Econ major, thank you. What my point is, if they really want to stop it, do it actively. Obviously not eating it is not stopping it or even slowing it down.0 -
I've heard of those. They look nasty.I'm sure most all of you have heard of Morning Star foods.
Why would I want processed fake food when I can get the real thing? Heck, I can pick the cow out from granddad's herd and I know a good butcher to break it down for me too. :PWhy not substitute?
I actually don't have burgers very often. I've tried the veggie ones before because I love veggies, but generally I prefer a nice all beef one! If I want a "veggie" burger I'm not going to buy one that's pretending to be beef. If I want a veggie "burger" I'll grill a portabella mushroom. If I want a real good burger, I'll have beef one.On a night you're going to have burgers, why not have a vege burger? They are so delicious.
I'm not 5 years old. I like my chicken without nuggets thank you very much.Chicken nuggets, why not Morning Stars?
Actually, I'm pretty sure my normal chicken is less fatty or greasy than those processed fake meat things.So much less fat, no grease, all entirely healthy & delicious.
Why would I want pricey? I'm on a budget because I only spend extra on the things that are important. Fake meat is not important to me.Yes, pricey.
Yuck.But who has burgers every night? Who has chicken nuggets every night? I know I don't. Though Morning Star is delicious.. & It does tempt me to make one. Yummy yummy substitution
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Because I raise my own pastured chickens and I eat them. I raise heritage breed Dominiques. They are naturally breeding, and I'm always going to have excess roosters. Always. I only need one rooster for every five to six hens to have maximum fertility. It's not really possible to rehome boys. Everyone wants girls for the eggs, but no one wants a bunch of roosters around that are going to fight. I kill them myself as humanely as possible. I know what they've had to eat their entire lives, I know where they've lived. I take responsibility for feeding myself and my family, and I feel good knowing that our food is clean. When we eat other meat, I buy from local farmers that I know and I approve of their standards.
I am always baffled by the phrase "humane killing".
I'm always baffled by people that think if they stop eating meat it will stop the inhumane treatment of animals on factory farms instead of actively trying to change it.
It's called supply and demand like when people boycott brands, businesses, it's a form of activism.
I know about supply and demand, Econ major, thank you. What my point is, if they really want to stop it, do it actively. Obviously not eating it is not stopping it or even slowing it down.
Some people do.0 -
Because meat, poultry and pork are far more delicious and nutritious.
BTW - we have canine teeth because we are carnivores by nature. But if you want to be a herbivore that is fine, just dont try to press your views on me!
Yes *daydreaming of bacon now*
Then why does it take forever for meat to process through our body unlike carnivores that get rid of it rather quickly
OMG, such a myth...............meat does not take that long to pass through our bodies........what a crock. Next thing you will be suggesting for us omnivores is to do cleanses to wash that 5 years of meat out of our intestines, LOL :laugh: :laugh:
Maybe not for your body, but meat destroys my inside. I love it but it doesn't love me.0 -
<--- Body made by meat.. Meat works. Just stick to meat. It's what our ancestors ate thousands of years ago. We're not meant to eat processed, frozen veggie burgers. Rather than substitute a fatty beef burger for a veggie burger, why not just substitute it for a leaner healthier type of meat?
I'm also sure our ancestors didn't go down to whole foods to buy their food either. ;P
His point stands alot more than your's does. At least he is still eating the same type foods our ancestors did.
I'm sure our ancestors ate prepackaged meats.
He didnt say he eats at whole foods? That's your assumption. Some of us but our meat from the farm and buy our vegetables from farm shops. Grok most certainly did not live on vegetation alone.
Not to split hairs, but I think these ancestors everyone is referring to usually only lived to about 30 years of age.
Common misconception. In prehistoric times, people routinely lived to be 70 or more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Human_life_expectancy_patterns
You'd better let wikipedia know.
Lol or you could get some info from people that actually studied it: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bone-dating-life-span/#axzz2Mz7MK5hD0
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