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I was born catholic and religious up untill this point in my life. After learning about the egytian god Horace and many other gods that share all of the attributes of jesus christ. I can see now that Jesus and chirstianity are just tools used to control the population/society. Its hard for me to let go. when I die and If jesus shows up that would be cool with me too. Its just still a huge part of my culture and herritage.. the only part i have really. So its a complicated matter.0
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I am a Christian and I will state the same thing as I did on that thread, `if the shoe was on the other foot` then you may find it offensive?
Confused by your comment. I see nothing offensive about Christians (or others of varying faiths) seeking like-minded friends. There's also nothing wrong with atheists or agnostics seeking like-minded friends.
What's there to be offended about with the original post? There are "introduce yourself"posts for 40 year olds seeking other 40 year olds, moms seeking friendship with other moms, etc etc etc etc....
This topic doesn't apply to me personally as I'm not an atheist, although I may have some agnostic leanings...but if you don't want to be-friend atheists or agnostics...then don't. :flowerforyou:
Why do people make things so complicated?
There was a post by a Christian mum wanting to make friends with other Christians, and that is what my original reply was too, which I seconded on this post.
Everyone is entitled to their religion/non religion but it can offend others?
I hope this makes this a little less complicated for you?
I didn't see that post...so Christian moms could have replied and/or friend requested her, and others could...well...not get involved, if they didn't want to. Whatever was said in that thread probably got out of hand for absolutely no reason. That's unfortunate.0 -
I'm atheist - unlike my wife who is a Church Warden / Verger.***
Why do people get so upset about other people's beliefs? Tolerance is a virtue whether you are religious or not.
*** If it turns out I was wrong all along I'm hoping my wife is good enough for the both of us!0 -
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Well, I'm a Christian, but feel free to friend request me if you'd like. I'm not trying to insult this forum; it's just nice to have fitness friends.
Nothing insulting about an offer of friendship!0 -
This is divisive.
No, it's not. (or are you being sarcastic?)
It's no different than a 40 year old seeking other 40 year olds as MFPals--if they write that, do we automatically assume they're being divisive because they don't prefer 20 year old friends? No. This isn't a thread arguing ANYTHING...it's simply a person who is an atheist seeking other atheist friends. Nothing wrong with that.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.0 -
This is divisive.
Organized religion is divisive, not to mention manipulative and power-seeking.
Also, against the rules of MFP.
It's sad when expressing an opinion of no named religion is offensive. People need to take their tampons out and relax. If you are not an atheist, move along.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
Get out of here with that bull... the OP is looking for friendship. You're just trying to stir the pot0 -
Prepare to get friend requested by Christians.
I think that Atheists think themselves to be more offensive to Christians than they really are- but then again I've never been on that side of things. I am a Christian... and I do not expect anything "christian" out of them.
Many people that claim to be Christians live as though there is no God- which makes them agnostic. What's the difference?
I have no problem being friends with Christians (or Muslims or Jews or Buddhists or Yogis or whatever) as long as they don't try to convert me. Friend away!
An honest question: Would you (or anyone here) consider it "trying to convert you" by posting anything religious as a status'? I struggle to find a balance... because on one hand.. I don't want to be accused of being a hypocrite by being one person on MFP and another person in life (where I truely try to reflect Christ in ALL things) but at the same time, I don't want to be accused of trying to convert someone if I "praise Jesus" in a post.
Honest question.... I could really talk about this kind of stuff all day without being "divisive."0 -
Proud atheist here. I even had a life threatening illness in 2011. The kind where a lot people claim to become more spiritual as a result. Only strengthened my resolve as an atheist.0
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no wait - I'm dumb... it's this one I belong to :laugh:
I belong to this one. I do try and post once a week there, and so do a few others. We'd love for you to join in. If you go through the threads, you'll find lots of topics to weight in on.I'm delighted to see so many of us! I did find an atheist group after I posted this, but it doesn't seem super active.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3964-atheists-on-mfp
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/145-mfp-atheists
Thanks!0 -
Well, I'm a Christian, but feel free to friend request me if you'd like. I'm not trying to insult this forum; it's just nice to have fitness friends.
Nothing insulting about an offer of friendship! 0 -
If this was an "I am looking for Christians friends" thread it would be locked already due to all the atheists complaining. Don't worry I won't turn you in, You have a right to have like minded friends.
I wouldn't report a thread looking for Christian friends. We ALL have a right to have like minded friends.
I've never objected to groups appealing to special interests. People seek motivation from different sources.0 -
Count me in. I identify as Secular Humanist - but that is just an atheist by another name. Feel free to friend me. As long as you don't have all the "Thank God" and "God inspired me" blah blah in your profile, I'd be happy to have you as a friend.
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This is divisive.
How is it divisive? Is it not ok to seek out people who are similar to you?
Nope, apparently not. For future reference, this apparently applies to birthday threads as well.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
Oh, good grief. The topic is FRIENDSHIP. She's not asking anyone to have a discussion regarding religion or non-religion!!!! She's seeking similar friends.
/facepalm
It is what it is. If it applies to a birthday thread (which isn't even used as an example in the guidelines like religion is) then it applies here. Apparently moderators get to decide at their discretion which threads looking for specific individuals are in violation of this rule.
I'm not disagreeing with you, merely providing you with the site "rules."0 -
Well, I'm a Christian, but feel free to friend request me if you'd like. I'm not trying to insult this forum; it's just nice to have fitness friends.
Nothing insulting about an offer of friendship!
See.. look how pleasant that exchange was..0 -
Ya'll mutha fu*kas need jesus
I this comment the most!
Thank you! I said it with sass and snapped my fingers and weaved my head around as I said it too.0 -
This is divisive.
Organized religion is divisive, not to mention manipulative and power-seeking.
Also, against the rules of MFP.
It's sad when expressing an opinion of no named religion is offensive. People need to take their tampons out and relax. If you are not an atheist, move along.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
Get out of here with that bull... the OP is looking for friendship. You're just trying to stir the pot
How is it bull? It's the site rules. I'm not making it up. Someone asked why it was against the rules and I posted.
For the record, I am not religious at all. I actually dislike religion but that's neither here nor there.0 -
Ya'll mutha fu*kas need jesus
I this comment the most!
Thank you! I said it with sass and snapped my fingers and weaved my head around as I said it too.
Ahahaha. Thank you for giving me my daily chuckle, good sir.0 -
This is divisive.
How is it divisive? Is it not ok to seek out people who are similar to you?
Nope, apparently not. For future reference, this apparently applies to birthday threads as well.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
Oh, good grief. The topic is FRIENDSHIP. She's not asking anyone to have a discussion regarding religion or non-religion!!!! She's seeking similar friends.
/facepalm
It is what it is. If it applies to a birthday thread (which isn't even used as an example in the guidelines like religion is) then it applies here. Apparently moderators get to decide at their discretion which threads looking for specific individuals are in violation of this rule.
I'm not disagreeing with you, merely providing you with the site "rules."
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to "yell" at you for pointing that out.
I just think people are stretching a bit to be offended. Poor woman's just looking for friends.0 -
Count me in. I identify as Secular Humanist - but that is just an atheist by another name. Feel free to friend me. As long as you don't have all the "Thank God" and "God inspired me" blah blah in your profile, I'd be happy to have you as a friend.
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Or, "God wants me to be this weight." If that's true, your god has too much time on his or her hands.0 -
Prepare to get friend requested by Christians.
I think that Atheists think themselves to be more offensive to Christians than they really are- but then again I've never been on that side of things. I am a Christian... and I do not expect anything "christian" out of them.
Many people that claim to be Christians live as though there is no God- which makes them agnostic. What's the difference?
I have no problem being friends with Christians (or Muslims or Jews or Buddhists or Yogis or whatever) as long as they don't try to convert me. Friend away!
An honest question: Would you (or anyone here) consider it "trying to convert you" by posting anything religious as a status'? I struggle to find a balance... because on one hand.. I don't want to be accused of being a hypocrite by being one person on MFP and another person in life (where I truely try to reflect Christ in ALL things) but at the same time, I don't want to be accused of trying to convert someone if I "praise Jesus" in a post.
Honest question.... I could really talk about this kind of stuff all day without being "divisive."
Oh no, praising god is not trying to convert someone! But I have to say that in my experience, a lot of atheists get frustrated seeing lots of references to jesus and god, in large part because anything we would have to say in response to "praise jesus" is not likely to be well-received by the religious person. It effectively ends the conversation. Sort of like if you had a bunch of Muslim friends who posted a lot of things about the Qu'ran and Allah, you might not find that you have much to say in response. So while I have a lot of religious friends, I often end up hiding them (on facebook) or unfriending them (if it's just an online acquaintance) because I don't have much to contribute to their conversations.0 -
How is it bull? It's the site rules. I'm not making it up. Someone asked why it was against the rules and I posted.
For the record, I am not religious at all. I actually dislike religion but that's neither here nor there.
I love that you and I had the same thought. We're like twins!!!! Awesome sauce twins!!! 0 -
Fellow Atheist, I have no problem with religious people and have respect for their beliefs. I come from a Catholic background. My parents aren't religious but believe in God, they chose not to have me baptised as a child as they wanted me to make my own decision.
I am happy to have friends religious or not as we are all here for the same reason, to be healthier and happier 0 -
If you're not a mod, don't try to be all "these are the rules." If it really offends you (not if you are just trying to be a pill), report it and let a mod decide whether to warn or move. If you're desperate to tell everyone what to do, you can always raise your hand to the site admin and ask to be a mod, but I'm guessing that's not really the type of person they're looking for to moderate.0
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This is divisive.
How is it divisive? Is it not ok to seek out people who are similar to you?
Nope, apparently not. For future reference, this apparently applies to birthday threads as well.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
Oh, good grief. The topic is FRIENDSHIP. She's not asking anyone to have a discussion regarding religion or non-religion!!!! She's seeking similar friends.
/facepalm
It is what it is. If it applies to a birthday thread (which isn't even used as an example in the guidelines like religion is) then it applies here. Apparently moderators get to decide at their discretion which threads looking for specific individuals are in violation of this rule.
I'm not disagreeing with you, merely providing you with the site "rules."
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to "yell" at you for pointing that out.
I just think people are stretching a bit to be offended. Poor woman's just looking for friends.
Lol trust me, I get it.
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This is divisive.
How is it divisive? Is it not ok to seek out people who are similar to you?
Nope, apparently not. For future reference, this apparently applies to birthday threads as well.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
Oh, good grief. The topic is FRIENDSHIP. She's not asking anyone to have a discussion regarding religion or non-religion!!!! She's seeking similar friends.
/facepalm
Totally agree with you. The problem is, MFP staff/mods disagree with this position and have made it remarkably clear in the lock posts of similar threads. It isn't just the divisiveness in the post, but the very nature of the post itself that they take issue with. Granted, the "Christian" threads seem to disappear much quicker, probably because there are people active on the site who are quick to report them, whereas the "atheist" or even "religions-other-than-Christianity" threads seem to last longer, presumably because, for whatever reason, people are less likely to report them.0 -
This is divisive.
Organized religion is divisive, not to mention manipulative and power-seeking.
Also, against the rules of MFP.
It's sad when expressing an opinion of no named religion is offensive. People need to take their tampons out and relax. If you are not an atheist, move along.
15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums
Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.
Get out of here with that bull... the OP is looking for friendship. You're just trying to stir the pot
How is it bull? It's the site rules. I'm not making it up. Someone asked why it was against the rules and I posted.
For the record, I am not religious at all. I actually dislike religion but that's neither here nor there.
I'm not talking about the rules.. I'm talking about the way you are going about it. There are several people in this thread who think it's a good joke to tell everyone they need Jesus. I mean, did anyone here say tell everyone they need to be godless? No, someone was looking for likeminded friends which she probably would not find in a group or know about any active groups without posting a thread here about it.
Your post about rules is no where to be found except to back up that the thread is against the rules which I believe is just being done to stir the pot. Not cool.0 -
If you're not a mod, don't try to be all "these are the rules." If it really offends you (not if you are just trying to be a pill), report it and let a mod decide whether to warn or move. If you're desperate to tell everyone what to do, you can always raise your hand to the site admin and ask to be a mod, but I'm guessing that's not really the type of person they're looking for to moderate.
Assuming this is directed at me? Someone asked a question so I answered the question. If you look back, someone ASKED how it was against the rules. I obliged by copy and pasting.
I don't report posts/threads unless it's extreme, ex: I reported a revenge post that posted someone's phone number once.
You're reaching for straws here.0 -
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It is what it is. If it applies to a birthday thread (which isn't even used as an example in the guidelines like religion is) then it applies here. Apparently moderators get to decide at their discretion which threads looking for specific individuals are in violation of this rule.
I'm not disagreeing with you, merely providing you with the site "rules."
We'll let the mods decide that then and continue on without bringing up the possibility that the mods will find it "divisive", shall we?
We all agree that the birthday thread thing was stupid. But don't let previous stupid decisions ruin this thread.0
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