Drama & Naysayers

skinnybunny_x

Is there someway to disable my post? I'm seriously sick of all this bickering.

Contrarian

Is there someway to disable my post? I'm seriously sick of all this bickering.

You can report it and ask the mods to delete it for you.

skinnybunny_x

I will do that, because people obviously can't grow up, agree to disagree, and move along! Go figure.

rml_16

To me, saying "Oh they're just jealous" is something you tell a toddler who is being picked on. Not a grown *kitten* person. Lets be real here.

Personally, if people are condescending toward me for doing something to better myself I either flip them the bird or, if my car is nearby, punch them in the face

Case in point, look how nasty the women in this thread are getting. Many women tend to just have nasty, hateful attitudes. By the way, the definition of jealous is, "envy" of something someone has that you don't. It makes you feel "less". I still say she was jealous. If this poster doesn't know for sure and we don't know for sure you can "assume she was jealous" or you can "assume she was not jealous" either way, no one here is wrong, because we don't know and we will never know. Every woman on the planet has felt envy of another woman. I do not believe all of the 'holier than thou' on here who CLAIM it isn't common. A psychologist might have a better insight, but I doubt they would be wasting their time on a site like this.

Also a toddler is not going to understand the concept of "jealous". I hope people don't say this to a toddler.

I haven't seen any nastiness in this thread, and specifically not in the post you quoted.

Of course we've all felt envy. I have a close friend I see a lot who snapped back perfectly after her pregnancy, eats crap, barely exercises and is drop-dead gorgeous -- face and body. Do I envy her? Absolutely. But I've never thought or said a mean thing about or to her. She's a wonderful person. I wish I could live her lifestyle and have the same results. I don't dislike her for it.

BinaryPulsar

I don't think women are nasty or any of that. I like women and think they are lovely.

_Lori_Lynn_

To me, saying "Oh they're just jealous" is something you tell a toddler who is being picked on. Not a grown *kitten* person. Lets be real here.

Personally, if people are condescending toward me for doing something to better myself I either flip them the bird or, if my car is nearby, punch them in the face

Case in point, look how nasty the women in this thread are getting. Many women tend to just have nasty, hateful attitudes. By the way, the definition of jealous is, "envy" of something someone has that you don't. It makes you feel "less". I still say she was jealous. If this poster doesn't know for sure and we don't know for sure you can "assume she was jealous" or you can "assume she was not jealous" either way, no one here is wrong, because we don't know and we will never know. Every woman on the planet has felt envy of another woman. I do not believe all of the 'holier than thou' on here who CLAIM it isn't common. A psychologist might have a better insight, but I doubt they would be wasting their time on a site like this.

Also a toddler is not going to understand the concept of "jealous". I hope people don't say this to a toddler.

I haven't seen any nastiness in this thread, and specifically not in the post you quoted.

Of course we've all felt envy. I have a close friend I see a lot who snapped back perfectly after her pregnancy, eats crap, barely exercises and is drop-dead gorgeous -- face and body. Do I envy her? Absolutely. But I've never thought or said a mean thing about or to her. She's a wonderful person. I wish I could live her lifestyle and have the same results. I don't dislike her for it.

Thank you for sharing your isolated incident. There are millions of circumstances. I see nastiness, but that is my view.

Energizer06

Add it to the topics never to discuss ...especially with friends and family

1. Politics
2. Religion
3. Fitness

rml_16

What? I didn't read any responses, because I just didn't ....


But, really? This sounds like some sort of ploy for reactions to me.


I've never (in a few decades) heard of anything like this. I call Shenanigans. Seriously.

You would be a better person for not reading the responses, trust me. I wish I could delete the last ten minutes of my life, because I read them.

Summing it up it is just a bunch of jealous women attacking each other on a forum.

I don't understand what it is you think they are jealous of. I just see people giving their opinions.

Like I said, you attract what you put out into the world.

I don't think one person in this thread is jealous of the person who claimed that. Which makes me very much doubt that her perceptions of women in the real world are accurate.

I commented because I find it highly offensive every time I see someone spout off about how awful women are. There's that meme going around saying, "Don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other." Every time I see it, I want to fly into an angry rage. It's misogyny, plain and simple.

I love women. I have male friends, but I have far more female friends and I love them.

sPaRkLiNgLYFE

listen to music when you workout, people are less likely to say anything to you if you're wearing headphones, and if they do you wont hear them. :glasses: problem solved.. oh as for the the lady bumping you off the path, i would have confronted her.

BinaryPulsar

What? I didn't read any responses, because I just didn't ....


But, really? This sounds like some sort of ploy for reactions to me.


I've never (in a few decades) heard of anything like this. I call Shenanigans. Seriously.

You would be a better person for not reading the responses, trust me. I wish I could delete the last ten minutes of my life, because I read them.

Summing it up it is just a bunch of jealous women attacking each other on a forum.

I don't understand what it is you think they are jealous of. I just see people giving their opinions.

Like I said, you attract what you put out into the world.

I don't think one person in this thread is jealous of the person who claimed that. Which makes me very much doubt that her perceptions of women in the real world are accurate.

I commented because I find it highly offensive every time I see someone spout off about how awful women are. There's that meme going around saying, "Don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other." Every time I see it, I want to fly into an angry rage. It's misogyny, plain and simple.

I love women. I have male friends, but I have far more female friends and I love them.

:drinker:

weese17

the hotter your body starts to look, the meaner the women will be. It's a shame how much looks play a role in how you are treated, but it does. Women are usually very nasty to each other.

Nope, can't say I've ever had that experience. But I imagine that like seeks like; water seeks its own level. The last time I experienced women being "very nasty" to each other was in middle school. I suggest you seek out better human beings.

rml_16

To me, saying "Oh they're just jealous" is something you tell a toddler who is being picked on. Not a grown *kitten* person. Lets be real here.

Personally, if people are condescending toward me for doing something to better myself I either flip them the bird or, if my car is nearby, punch them in the face

Case in point, look how nasty the women in this thread are getting. Many women tend to just have nasty, hateful attitudes. By the way, the definition of jealous is, "envy" of something someone has that you don't. It makes you feel "less". I still say she was jealous. If this poster doesn't know for sure and we don't know for sure you can "assume she was jealous" or you can "assume she was not jealous" either way, no one here is wrong, because we don't know and we will never know. Every woman on the planet has felt envy of another woman. I do not believe all of the 'holier than thou' on here who CLAIM it isn't common. A psychologist might have a better insight, but I doubt they would be wasting their time on a site like this.

Also a toddler is not going to understand the concept of "jealous". I hope people don't say this to a toddler.

I haven't seen any nastiness in this thread, and specifically not in the post you quoted.

Of course we've all felt envy. I have a close friend I see a lot who snapped back perfectly after her pregnancy, eats crap, barely exercises and is drop-dead gorgeous -- face and body. Do I envy her? Absolutely. But I've never thought or said a mean thing about or to her. She's a wonderful person. I wish I could live her lifestyle and have the same results. I don't dislike her for it.

Thank you for sharing your isolated incident. There are millions of circumstances. I see nastiness, but that is my view.

It was an example to illustrate a point.

And as I said earlier, your behavior in this thread explains why you "see" this everywhere. You make it up.

I assure you that I am not jealous of you. All I know of you is what you've posted in this thread and you are a negative, sad woman. I don't care what your body looks like. I care what your soul looks like. Yours is pretty messed up.

cmriverside

*Le* *Sigh*





Still didn't read responses. ANOGTFT.


Placemarker. .. because that's all I've got.

LorinaLynn

I think she just saw an easy target. I was always pretty quiet and shy, but I have the darned curls that have always attracted attention.

Also quiet and shy, and more than a little bit weird. Weird interests for a girl, anyway.

I've since come to find out that a lot of people mistook my shyness for aloofness and even a touch of snobbery.

But for the question at hand... Sunglasses and earbuds. It makes it easier to ignore people.

DontStopB_Leakin

To me, saying "Oh they're just jealous" is something you tell a toddler who is being picked on. Not a grown *kitten* person. Lets be real here.

Personally, if people are condescending toward me for doing something to better myself I either flip them the bird or, if my car is nearby, punch them in the face

Case in point, look how nasty the women in this thread are getting. Many women tend to just have nasty, hateful attitudes. By the way, the definition of jealous is, "envy" of something someone has that you don't. It makes you feel "less". I still say she was jealous. If this poster doesn't know for sure and we don't know for sure you can "assume she was jealous" or you can "assume she was not jealous" either way, no one here is wrong, because we don't know and we will never know. Every woman on the planet has felt envy of another woman. I do not believe all of the 'holier than thou' on here who CLAIM it isn't common. A psychologist might have a better insight, but I doubt they would be wasting their time on a site like this.

Also a toddler is not going to understand the concept of "jealous". I hope people don't say this to a toddler.

The only person attacking anyone on this thread is you.



Mmmmmmm, hypocritical irony, how I love thee.

EmilyEmpowered

:flowerforyou: :drinker:

Like I said, you attract what you put out into the world.

I don't think one person in this thread is jealous of the person who claimed that. Which makes me very much doubt that her perceptions of women in the real world are accurate.

I commented because I find it highly offensive every time I see someone spout off about how awful women are. There's that meme going around saying, "Don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other." Every time I see it, I want to fly into an angry rage. It's misogyny, plain and simple.

I love women. I have male friends, but I have far more female friends and I love them.

Yes!!! Very well said!!

Aleta7

nope this has never happened to me and i hear it here all the time which makes me wonder if people arent creating these situations in their own head as an easy "out".

"I cant get healthy because people are MEAN!"

Aleta7

People are mean alot of the time..I was out on my bike and some college guys decided to throw their drink at me from a truck and bark like dogs...It happens..but you just keep going..

EmilyEmpowered

the situation you explained, regarding the man who made the comments, I personally would have assumed that he was making a lame joke, not bullying.....

I am very sensitive to adults who use the word bully in reference to one or two instances where another adult says something that makes them feel bad about themselves or uncomfortable. To me, being "bullied" is where someone tortures you and makes your life a living hell, like the not so popular kids in school who get teased day in and day out. Saying you are bullied as an adult is just assinine, I will never understand that, and I think the word is being used waaayyyy too often in our society. Not every case of being "teased" is being "bullied." Please learn the difference!

And for reference: all through high school and to current day, I am the shyest person I know... even with people I have known for years, I am super super shy. After graduation, my best friends and I went to a graduation party of a classmate we never really hung out with. While there, we got a chance to talk to many classmates we never associated with in school. I guess being graduation day, we were all letting loose, etc, and a group of people went on and on to me and my BF about thinking we were the BIGGEST *****ES EVER because all we did was walk around with "smirks on our faces making fun of people"... UImmm, no, we NEVER made fun of people, we were always just laughing at inside jokes and being wallflowers, keeping to ourselves. We assumed everyone else was making fun of US! So, my point is, I learned 8 years ago that you cant assume what other people are thinking based off one incident, or even knowing them for years, and that situation always reminds me when I am around people I dont know to make an effort of keeping a pleasant look on my face, which I really do have to make a concentrated effort to do- I normally come off very *****y, which plenty of people have told me once they get to know me and realize I am not at all that way.!


Sorry, this is crazy long, but I feel strongly about this, I really do, coming from a place of being accused of being "jealous," etc.... And I agree that is what mothers tell daughters to make them feel better, but my mama taught me "People are mean, get used to it!!"

victoriannsays

more often than not I feel as though women(men too) can act negatively towards others because they feel something is missing within themselves.

fortunately, I surround myself with some pretty awesome people so this doesn't happen often. but the best thing to do when do you encounter it is to I G N O R E it.

danasings

Summing it up it is just a bunch of jealous women attacking each other on a forum.

I didn't see anyone attacking anyone else. All I saw were some people offering up alternative suggestions.

Agreed.

Was it jealousy or just someone being a miserable f*ckwit because he/she is an unhappy person? My guess is the latter. But I won't get into an argument over semantics on the forums. This is just my opinion, I am not calling anyone names, attacking, or insulting anyone. Clear? Okay.

PetulantOne

There's a bike path where I used to roller blade regularly (I need new ones, so haven't been in a while) and some of the bikers were kind of rude and weirdly territorial. Other than that, nothing of that nature has ever happened to me.

I had a similar experience, only it's a bike/running trail. There's pavement to run on, but they made a bunch of cut throughs in the woods for bikes. The first few times I went out there I got scowled at, and one guy almost ran me over. (and yes I was going with the flow of traffic and all that) After they saw me a few times they seemed to lighten up though.

MercenaryNoetic26

Is there someway to disable my post? I'm seriously sick of all this bickering.

Don't disable. Be strong girl! They just jealous. Lol

MercenaryNoetic26

listen to music when you workout, people are less likely to say anything to you if you're wearing headphones, and if they do you wont hear them. :glasses: problem solved.. oh as for the the lady bumping you off the path, i would have confronted her.

Yep. I would've confronted also. I mind my biz but if you're going to bump me and not apologize I will come at you.

PetulantOne

People are mean alot of the time..I was out on my bike and some college guys decided to throw their drink at me from a truck and bark like dogs...It happens..but you just keep going..

That's awful. I'm sorry that happened to you.

diabloben68

What? I didn't read any responses, because I just didn't ....


But, really? This sounds like some sort of ploy for reactions to me.


I've never (in a few decades) heard of anything like this. I call Shenanigans. Seriously.

^^ This

Ramberta

I've found that A LOT of women are jealous. It doesn't make me feel good at all, I would rather receive no attention than negative attention or comments. Once again, maybe that is not your experience or your oblivious to it, but I'm sure it happens to most women that are attractive and in shape.

Shrug.

the hotter your body starts to look, the meaner the women will be. It's a shame how much looks play a role in how you are treated, but it does. Women are usually very nasty to each other. Oprah once said, she didn't want to lose all her weight, bc it would hurt her ratings bc studies show women don't like "in shape" women as much as ones who are either more like them or out of shape. Not sure of the exact quote, but that is basically what she said.

I had a pretty damned hot body most of my life. I have an hourglass figure, DDs on my chest, hair complete strangers stop me in Walmart or the line at an airport or pretty much every time I leave the house to compliment and I was never above a size 6 until I was nearly 30 years old, currently a size 8.

I have NEVER had an experience like you describe. Ever. Once or twice some random chick flirted with my BF in front of me, but never said anything nasty to me personally. I just laughed it off and thought she should count her blessings I'm not the jealous type.

I think if you're getting this kind of treatment, it's more to do with the attitude you project and maybe your own behavior than what you look like.

EDIT: I have a large circle of close female friends, most of whom are very beautiful inside and out. I guess I'm just lucky, but I haven't experienced the female nastiness I see so many women talk about. Maybe because I'm not that type of person myself, so I don't attract women like that into my life.

In reference to the bold part-- that kind of blanket statement is incredibly unfair and more than a little ludicrous. Just because you have been fortunate enough to not be subjected to the kind of cruelty that OP and others have described does not make you a better person, attitude or otherwise, and it does not mean that the people who have been picked on have bad attitudes! That is essentially the "she's asking for it with that short skirt" logic, which is preposterous. People don't 'attract' jerks to them, they encounter them unwittingly just like the rest of us. If you haven't come across many jerks in your life, you're lucky, that's all.

Ramberta

nope this has never happened to me and i hear it here all the time which makes me wonder if people arent creating these situations in their own head as an easy "out".

"I cant get healthy because people are MEAN!"

So, I imagined the guys who yelled "Run, fatass, run" out their car window at me as I was doing C25K the other day? Or the guys that made cow noises at me last year? As someone who's struggled with my weight for a long time, I've had a number of bad experiences where people felt the need to make nasty comments about my body or my workout.

I wouldn't say it's common, as I live in a fairly fitness-oriented town and most people are pretty nice, but there are some serious jerks out there.

It's really awful that people have to deal with this.... but again, people are mean, or want to feel superior, and it has nothing to do with what their target looks like. They just pick on the first thing that stands out to them.

Jealousy? Not so much.

Could you show me where, in my post, I mentioned jealousy? Or where, in the post I was responding to, that jealousy was mentioned? But hey, thanks for pretending to read my post.

^Ha.

cmriverside

In reference to the bold part-- that kind of blanket statement is incredibly unfair and more than a little ludicrous. Just because you have been fortunate enough to not be subjected to the kind of cruelty that OP and others have described does not make you a better person, attitude or otherwise, and it does not mean that the people who have been picked on have bad attitudes! That is essentially the "she's asking for it with that short skirt" logic, which is preposterous. People don't 'attract' jerks to them, they encounter them unwittingly just like the rest of us. If you haven't come across many jerks in your life, you're lucky, that's all.

Oh...really? That is so sad. I'm sorry. I haven't had that experience.

And, really - if you have - look at what you may be running through your head. Because that experience is 100% created by you.

The way your life goes is entirely in your head.

Be well.

MercenaryNoetic26

Like I said, you attract what you put out into the world.

I don't think one person in this thread is jealous of the person who claimed that. Which makes me very much doubt that her perceptions of women in the real world are accurate.

I commented because I find it highly offensive every time I see someone spout off about how awful women are. There's that meme going around saying, "Don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other." Every time I see it, I want to fly into an angry rage. It's misogyny, plain and simple.

I love women. I have male friends, but I have far more female friends and I love them.

Sounds like you read "The Secret".

Misogyny? Lol. She didn't say all women are mean or hateful. The OP gave an example of how some women have treated her. Keep on pretending there aren't conniving women out there. Whatever their motives they're being b!+ches to her not the other way around. She was trying to understand why women are like that toward her without provocation. You want to believe she invented her story. That's misogyny.

I love that meme btw. It's funny.