I believe that Paleo/Primal/Clean eaters belong to a cult.

mllst18

So, I guess the question then becomes, who is making the punch?! :laugh:

Dauntlessness

Don't feed the Troll! hahaha

rdpage90

Chuck Norris is a cult.

G30Grrl

Interesting. I guess that makes the OP the leader of the Anti-Paleo cult? Whatever. To quote the OP, "Stop wasting the internets!"

K_Serz

1-6 pages, in less than an hour. Well done OP

Mr_Bad_Example

Don't feed the Troll! hahaha

I am going to have nightmares about this picture...

med2017

part of a cult and proud !!!!!



goodbye haterz.

whatascene

I can never forgive the cupcake bashing I have seen here today.

BerryH

Apparently our stone-age forbears got much of their protein from insects and bugs. Bet they don't make it into any of those best-selling diet books.

yo_andi

So by your definitions, every religious organization is a cult, football fans are a cult, people that watch celebrity gossip are a colt.

aka, you're dumb.

Nope, I'm a filly.

NikkiSixGuns

people that watch celebrity gossip are a colt.

???

For the win!

Yesss!

Lots of institutions are, by definition, cults. It's not necessarily a negative term. The term doesn't denote falsity or invalidate the institution. It does specify that others not belonging to the cult often perceive its beliefs as odd, unorthodox, or evil, which is true for lots of institutions.

MyChocolateDiet

If something someone is doing is bringing them joy, they feel it is improving their lives and health, why not let them have it? Not everyone has to do the same things, like the same things, follow the same paths to achieve their goals. What happened to live and let live? How could it possibly negatively impact you if someone else is living a paleo/primal/clean eating plan? I was under the distinct impression these forums – this site – was to help people in their pursuits of good health, to offer resources and support. The rampant negativity espoused by this post and other like it say infinitely more about the characters of those individuals starting and perpetuating them than they could ever say about people who have a developed a passion for something they truly believe is making them better people. Shame on you, OP.

Because if they kept it to themselves that would be one thing. Unfortunately I found my husband "looking into dieting" for me online one day and when he espoused some general principles of something he was reading I flippantly mentioned oh that sounds like that Paleo stuff I've been hearing about. ( i was currently counting cals and that sparked his interest in "looking into dieting" i guess.) He quickly clicked onto the Paleo channel of online everything just as in the past he has latched onto cleanses/vegetarianism/veganism/ and any number of this or that food is bad for you and banned in our home. He has since been beating me over the head like a caveman with the paleo, even though I have already enjoyed success at the rate I expected with my current plan which I began before him.

It was rocky and hellish to watch him try and reject so many paleo foods as unstomachable. It was worrysome to watch his meals get smaller and mood get crankier as he struggled to find foods he could actually stomach that fit that plan. His mood has been horrendous. His language has become insane. The claims have become ridiculous. His whole life has had to change since he no longer trusted me to know what to cook for him or how and is now forgetting to do regular chores in favor of having complete and total control over his meals/purchasing/prep/serving. I, on the other hand can at will incorporate any of his paleo meals into my cals counting anytime he feels like sharing or makes too much. He however cannot partake of anything he wants because "paleo". I've asked him for the book, there appears to be no sole source or even way to do it. Apparently you are free to mish mosh it to your needs.

I tried researching it in the beginning to know what to cook for him and every single suggestion EVERY SINGLE ONE was knocked down for some reason or other. It seems that unless I am actually doing paleo, I could not possibly figure it out. In the latest news he has 3 people at work starting to do it because of him. Apparently they have been "inspired" by him and his changes. (he was already at a normal slender weight, but has started lifting a little and looks less pudgy and more muscular and rosier). Anyone wanna take a guess how many of these "inspired" people are women? Because I have a hard time imagining a man going up to my husband and saying "Oh, you are such an inspiration" or "oh you inspire me". Stay tuned for the next installments of how cavemen get divorced and do cavemen cheat and do cavemen have to pay the same child support as regular men. Because he is currently acting like a man who has found a new fling and the current wife is caulk-blocking and her mere existence has become an annoyance.

So that's why SOME people can't just look the other way. It's because SOME cavemen won't let them. I venture to add that my limited knowledge of paleo and mentioning it to him on that regretful day was from people on here since I was spending my time here horsing around and inputting my cals so I otherwise wouldn't have known about it or been in this mess. Thanks Paleo dieters. Learn to keep my mouth shut next time in front of my fad extreme diet seeking mate.

DISCLAIMER: This was in no way an attack on any of you paleo eaters. It was simply a response to above "why can't you just leave them be" attitude, explaining with my own experience, exactly why at least one person cannot ignore it. currently I am trying, and he tries to ignore my devilish trashy evil eating and thus we are now in our separate corners until the next round. the end.

sullus

So by your definitions, every religious organization is a cult, football fans are a cult, people that watch celebrity gossip are a colt.

aka, you're dumb.

insults are against the community guidelines. you can get a strike for that.

6. No Intentionally Hurtful Topics

15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums

You honestly think posting this to the main forum was a good idea and wont start controversy? LOL

Also, for you do be correct you also need to prove that Paleo is "based on dogma" AND prove that its just a FAD. Neither of which I believe are true. Nice try though.

Dogma is the official system of belief or doctrine held by a religion, or a particular group or organization.[1] It serves as part of the primary basis of an ideology or belief system, and it cannot be changed or discarded without affecting the very system's paradigm, or the ideology itself.

yep. paleo's based on dogma

So theres is only 1 paleo diet and 1 paleo diet only? FAIL

Oh I'm not claiming that. But it IS a belief system - we have no way of knowing how paleo man ate. I only have one problem withthe concept, and that's that paleo man ate a mostly meat based diet (as put forth by http://thepaleodiet.com). I believe that the paleo man got a lot of calories from carbs in foraged tubers. Doc Cordian doesn't seem to have room for that in his dogma.

Edit: I accidentally a word.

DoneBroughtSexyBack

ldrosophila

So by your definitions, every religious organization is a cult, football fans are a cult, people that watch celebrity gossip are a colt.

aka, you're dumb.

By definition they are look at a Chicago fan. I'd say they are one step away from drinking the kool-aid. And have you ever seen a Justin Bieber fan in complete tears because they see their Messiah walking onto the stage.

I agree with the OP cult mentality. I've heard the next comet is coming soon better get ready so you dont miss the spaceship.

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iWaffle

Speaking of cults.

kcallas88

I just wanted to point out, that I'm...

Second this

ldrosophila

Apparently our stone-age forbears got much of their protein from insects and bugs. Bet they don't make it into any of those best-selling diet books.

BWAHAHA I crown you MFP Queen for the day. How come no one is hard core advocating an insect based diet?

NicoleisQuantized

Unwavering deference to an idea without questioning its underlying principles is very sinister indeed; oftentimes such fealty turns into belief. A mind that is structured on blind belief is inherently resistant to change, and will quickly stagnate.


That being said, this thread is absolute nonsense.... name calling based on the kinds of food that people prefer to ingest.

jofjltncb6

Shun the nonbeliever.

SHUNNNNNNNN!!1!eleven!!1

myofibril

definition of "Cult" from Merriam Webster.

That's your problem right there.

You should have used the Oxford English dictionary...

K_Serz

So by your definitions, every religious organization is a cult, football fans are a cult, people that watch celebrity gossip are a colt.

aka, you're dumb.

insults are against the community guidelines. you can get a strike for that.

6. No Intentionally Hurtful Topics

15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums

You honestly think posting this to the main forum was a good idea and wont start controversy? LOL

Also, for you do be correct you also need to prove that Paleo is "based on dogma" AND prove that its just a FAD. Neither of which I believe are true. Nice try though.

Dogma is the official system of belief or doctrine held by a religion, or a particular group or organization.[1] It serves as part of the primary basis of an ideology or belief system, and it cannot be changed or discarded without affecting the very system's paradigm, or the ideology itself.

yep. paleo's based on dogma

So theres is only 1 paleo diet and 1 paleo diet only? FAIL

Oh I'm not claiming that. But it IS a belief system - we have no way of knowing how paleo man ate. I only have one problem withthe concept, and that's that paleo man ate a mostly meat based diet (as put forth by http://thepaleodiet.com). I believe that the paleo man got a lot of calories from carbs in foraged tubers. Doc Cordian doesn't seem to have room for that in his dogma.

Edit: I accidentally a word.

Thats my point. How many people believe they are following the Paleo diet that veers off of what Doc Whoever says should be the Paleo diet? How many Paleo cult members have no idea who this Doc Cordian is? Or would that be blashemy and grounds for excommunication from the group? :laugh:

SlickFootAnna

I like the Cults.

americangirlok

I'm in the crazy cat lady cult. It's really fun and we just talk about cats and dress them up

That is one chunk of a cat! And there so needs to be a crazy cat lady group on here! Maybe there is... I'm looking.

spirit80

Bump

k8blujay2

Personally, I am an open minded eater. I consider the feelings and sacrifice of all food sources.

Ramberta

OH GOD PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING EATING PATTERNS THEY WANT TO

THEY SHOULD BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS BECAUSE CLEARLY THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND ARE HARMFUL TO EVERYONE AROUND THEM

IT'S ONLY A FREE COUNTRY IF EVERYONE DOES WHAT EVERYONE ELSE AGREES WITH

Seriously?

Get over yourself. All of you, OP and everyone else with a vendetta against paleo/primal/clean eating lifestyles, just go shove a sock up your bum.

Are people that eat at McDonald's cultists too? How about Domino's? Chinese buffets? What about followers of the Atkins and South Beach diets? What about craft beer snobs, winos, potheads? Let's just label everyone and pigeon-hole them into cults because it makes us feel better!!

:noway:

Let people eat what they want and live how they want. Unless they're force-feeding people strapped to chairs, or outright scamming people out of money (and no, something ISN'T a scam if it doesn't work as told, that is simply a marketing ploy. Being scammed means receiving nothing and having money taken from the customer), they're not only not a cult, but frankly none of your damn business! Last time I checked no one dropped dead from primal / paleo / clean eating. So kindly stop the wankfest over it and let's move on.

SlvrBluGoddess

*bump*

jenn26point2

Yup, eating healthy, home prepared meals from foods found in nature is just the stupidest idea ever. Curing disease by changing one's diet is even more stupid. Instead we should be following all the advice of MFP "a calorie is a calorie" experts, take lots of meds for all of our ailments, and keep eating "normal" processed foods (most of which didn't exist 100 years ago).

(Why are many people SO threatened by people that choose to eliminate foods that make them sick and fat??? It gets tiring. Not only can we never share our stories, even when asked, without ignorance and ridicule, but threads are created just to insult one lifestyle choice. I don't get it.)

Yes, many Paleo/Primal/Clean eaters are very passionate; it's because we have learned that being sick/fat is not normal and is preventable and curable with diet. We want to help other people have the same experience. But people like you can just go ahead keep doing what you are doing and "wait for the cure" for diabetes, obesity, cancer, heart disease, depression, etc. Best luck to you.

OP and others: do some research into "diseases of Civilization". I find it ludicrous that people think lifestyle (including food) plays no role in health. It's illogical.

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