Shakeology Vrs Slim fast?

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  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    until you try it, you can't say for certain it doesn't do anything for you.

    Until you try heroin, you can't say it does bad things for you.

    See how silly that is? Personal experience is anecdotal and meaningless when it comes to health.

    do you listen to yourself sometimes? that makes absolutely no sense.

    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    "This product I'm selling did amazing thing x for me!" is not evidence.

    you said "it doesn't do anything special for you"

    prove it, since you're all about evidence.

    Prove that it does do something special. It's not anyone's job to "prove" that some MLM magic supplement doesn't do anything amazing.

    If you want anyone to believe this is some magic superfood, then tell us about how the few grains of brazilian organic free-range grass-fed coconut husk is going to have any measurable impact on their health.

    you want to prove to me that probiotics aid in digestion?

    how 'bout Yacon:

    The intake of FOS (yacon), however, led to a significant reduction of the proinflammatory cytokine IL-1β in macrophage cultures and elevation of the levels of fecal IgA. Together, these results indicate that the daily consumption of yacon does not exert negative effects on the immune system, helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23176799

    you just have to do a little research. :)

    ..... "in macrophage cultures."

    Here's the part that led them to actually conclude that yacon consumption "had no negative effects:

    "No significant differences were observed in food intake and weight gain when the experimental and control groups were compared. Also, serum levels of IgA, IgM, and IgG; nitric oxide production in peritoneal macrophages; frequencies of T and B lymphocytes in the spleen and peripheral blood; T-cell proliferation; and production of interleukin (IL)-4, interferon-γ, IL-10, and tumor necrosis factor α did not differ in the different groups."

    In other words, in the raats, which ate 5% of their diet as yacon there were no observable effects whatsoever.

    In other words, large amounts of yacon - amounts many times larger than what a person would get from Shakeology - had no observable effects in the rats.

    Next?

    i'm sorry, if you can't read, then i can't help you. i'll quote it again:
    helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.
  • BeautifulChaos27
    BeautifulChaos27 Posts: 91
    WELLLLL now that this thread totally blew up, I'll explain myself. I was saying TASTE wise Slim Fast is a lot better than Shakeology. In terms of being good for you I'm sure Shakeology wins. HOWEVER I'm not using either as "meal replacements" or going on any extreme short term plan. I use Slim Fast to hold me off when I can't have an actual meal at the time, or if it's still too early to eat. I maybe have 3 at most a week.

    On that note, I also make home made shakes using yogurt and fruit more often than using the Slim Fast. So it's all good people, I've combine all sorts of different plans into my weight loss.

    I use slim fast shakes when needed
    I eat healthy foods
    I've been cutting portions
    I've been eating the weight watchers "Smart Ones" when I don't have time to make my own meals
    I also use MULTIPLE types of brands for protein bars

    I don't swear by any brand :laugh:
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    until you try it, you can't say for certain it doesn't do anything for you.

    Until you try heroin, you can't say it does bad things for you.

    See how silly that is? Personal experience is anecdotal and meaningless when it comes to health.

    do you listen to yourself sometimes? that makes absolutely no sense.

    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    "This product I'm selling did amazing thing x for me!" is not evidence.

    you said "it doesn't do anything special for you"

    prove it, since you're all about evidence.

    Prove that it does do something special. It's not anyone's job to "prove" that some MLM magic supplement doesn't do anything amazing.

    If you want anyone to believe this is some magic superfood, then tell us about how the few grains of brazilian organic free-range grass-fed coconut husk is going to have any measurable impact on their health.

    you want to prove to me that probiotics aid in digestion?

    how 'bout Yacon:

    The intake of FOS (yacon), however, led to a significant reduction of the proinflammatory cytokine IL-1β in macrophage cultures and elevation of the levels of fecal IgA. Together, these results indicate that the daily consumption of yacon does not exert negative effects on the immune system, helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23176799

    you just have to do a little research. :)

    ..... "in macrophage cultures."

    Here's the part that led them to actually conclude that yacon consumption "had no negative effects:

    "No significant differences were observed in food intake and weight gain when the experimental and control groups were compared. Also, serum levels of IgA, IgM, and IgG; nitric oxide production in peritoneal macrophages; frequencies of T and B lymphocytes in the spleen and peripheral blood; T-cell proliferation; and production of interleukin (IL)-4, interferon-γ, IL-10, and tumor necrosis factor α did not differ in the different groups."

    In other words, in the raats, which ate 5% of their diet as yacon there were no observable effects whatsoever.

    In other words, large amounts of yacon - amounts many times larger than what a person would get from Shakeology - had no observable effects in the rats.

    Next?

    i'm sorry, if you can't read, then i can't help you. i'll quote it again:
    helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    In phagocyte cultures from rats. That's not evidence of anything, certainly not evidence of any beneficial effects in humans at 1% of the dose given in the study.
  • daphnemoon
    daphnemoon Posts: 216 Member
    I cannot believe that I haven't included Himalayan sea salt and luo han guo in my diet all this time. My bad.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    until you try it, you can't say for certain it doesn't do anything for you.

    Until you try heroin, you can't say it does bad things for you.

    See how silly that is? Personal experience is anecdotal and meaningless when it comes to health.

    do you listen to yourself sometimes? that makes absolutely no sense.

    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    "This product I'm selling did amazing thing x for me!" is not evidence.

    you said "it doesn't do anything special for you"

    prove it, since you're all about evidence.

    Prove that it does do something special. It's not anyone's job to "prove" that some MLM magic supplement doesn't do anything amazing.

    If you want anyone to believe this is some magic superfood, then tell us about how the few grains of brazilian organic free-range grass-fed coconut husk is going to have any measurable impact on their health.

    you want to prove to me that probiotics aid in digestion?

    how 'bout Yacon:

    The intake of FOS (yacon), however, led to a significant reduction of the proinflammatory cytokine IL-1β in macrophage cultures and elevation of the levels of fecal IgA. Together, these results indicate that the daily consumption of yacon does not exert negative effects on the immune system, helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23176799

    you just have to do a little research. :)

    ..... "in macrophage cultures."

    Here's the part that led them to actually conclude that yacon consumption "had no negative effects:

    "No significant differences were observed in food intake and weight gain when the experimental and control groups were compared. Also, serum levels of IgA, IgM, and IgG; nitric oxide production in peritoneal macrophages; frequencies of T and B lymphocytes in the spleen and peripheral blood; T-cell proliferation; and production of interleukin (IL)-4, interferon-γ, IL-10, and tumor necrosis factor α did not differ in the different groups."

    In other words, in the raats, which ate 5% of their diet as yacon there were no observable effects whatsoever.

    In other words, large amounts of yacon - amounts many times larger than what a person would get from Shakeology - had no observable effects in the rats.

    Next?

    i'm sorry, if you can't read, then i can't help you. i'll quote it again:
    helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    In phagocyte cultures from rats. That's not evidence of anything, certainly not evidence of any beneficial effects in humans at 1% of the dose given in the study.

    on what animal do they test aspartame?
  • sunsnstatheart
    sunsnstatheart Posts: 2,544 Member
    FFS. Again? Get out. Get a drink. Find a girlfriend. Life is short.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    until you try it, you can't say for certain it doesn't do anything for you.

    Until you try heroin, you can't say it does bad things for you.

    See how silly that is? Personal experience is anecdotal and meaningless when it comes to health.

    do you listen to yourself sometimes? that makes absolutely no sense.

    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    "This product I'm selling did amazing thing x for me!" is not evidence.

    you said "it doesn't do anything special for you"

    prove it, since you're all about evidence.

    Prove that it does do something special. It's not anyone's job to "prove" that some MLM magic supplement doesn't do anything amazing.

    If you want anyone to believe this is some magic superfood, then tell us about how the few grains of brazilian organic free-range grass-fed coconut husk is going to have any measurable impact on their health.

    you want to prove to me that probiotics aid in digestion?

    how 'bout Yacon:

    The intake of FOS (yacon), however, led to a significant reduction of the proinflammatory cytokine IL-1β in macrophage cultures and elevation of the levels of fecal IgA. Together, these results indicate that the daily consumption of yacon does not exert negative effects on the immune system, helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23176799

    you just have to do a little research. :)

    ..... "in macrophage cultures."

    Here's the part that led them to actually conclude that yacon consumption "had no negative effects:

    "No significant differences were observed in food intake and weight gain when the experimental and control groups were compared. Also, serum levels of IgA, IgM, and IgG; nitric oxide production in peritoneal macrophages; frequencies of T and B lymphocytes in the spleen and peripheral blood; T-cell proliferation; and production of interleukin (IL)-4, interferon-γ, IL-10, and tumor necrosis factor α did not differ in the different groups."

    In other words, in the raats, which ate 5% of their diet as yacon there were no observable effects whatsoever.

    In other words, large amounts of yacon - amounts many times larger than what a person would get from Shakeology - had no observable effects in the rats.

    Next?

    i'm sorry, if you can't read, then i can't help you. i'll quote it again:
    helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    In phagocyte cultures from rats. That's not evidence of anything, certainly not evidence of any beneficial effects in humans at 1% of the dose given in the study.

    on what animal do they test aspartame?

    Offtopic, so this is my only post on the subject: aspartame has been extensively studied in many animals, including humans.
  • janf15
    janf15 Posts: 242 Member
    The power of marketing!!! Look at the label and what is in it? How is that processed.

    Some of the stuff - such as chia seeds - you may be better off in its real form ... flax seeds not bad - but has a lot of has omega -6 in it ... an inflammatory

    I am not discouraging anyone - but I think in the long run we are better off putting stuff in our mouth which doesn't have a long shelf life!
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    until you try it, you can't say for certain it doesn't do anything for you.

    Until you try heroin, you can't say it does bad things for you.

    See how silly that is? Personal experience is anecdotal and meaningless when it comes to health.

    do you listen to yourself sometimes? that makes absolutely no sense.

    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    "This product I'm selling did amazing thing x for me!" is not evidence.

    you said "it doesn't do anything special for you"

    prove it, since you're all about evidence.

    Prove that it does do something special. It's not anyone's job to "prove" that some MLM magic supplement doesn't do anything amazing.

    If you want anyone to believe this is some magic superfood, then tell us about how the few grains of brazilian organic free-range grass-fed coconut husk is going to have any measurable impact on their health.

    you want to prove to me that probiotics aid in digestion?

    how 'bout Yacon:

    The intake of FOS (yacon), however, led to a significant reduction of the proinflammatory cytokine IL-1β in macrophage cultures and elevation of the levels of fecal IgA. Together, these results indicate that the daily consumption of yacon does not exert negative effects on the immune system, helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23176799

    you just have to do a little research. :)

    ..... "in macrophage cultures."

    Here's the part that led them to actually conclude that yacon consumption "had no negative effects:

    "No significant differences were observed in food intake and weight gain when the experimental and control groups were compared. Also, serum levels of IgA, IgM, and IgG; nitric oxide production in peritoneal macrophages; frequencies of T and B lymphocytes in the spleen and peripheral blood; T-cell proliferation; and production of interleukin (IL)-4, interferon-γ, IL-10, and tumor necrosis factor α did not differ in the different groups."

    In other words, in the raats, which ate 5% of their diet as yacon there were no observable effects whatsoever.

    In other words, large amounts of yacon - amounts many times larger than what a person would get from Shakeology - had no observable effects in the rats.

    Next?

    i'm sorry, if you can't read, then i can't help you. i'll quote it again:
    helps to preserve an anti-inflammatory state in phagocytic cells, and improves mucosal immunity, possibly preventing the risks associated with autoimmune and metabolic diseases.

    In phagocyte cultures from rats. That's not evidence of anything, certainly not evidence of any beneficial effects in humans at 1% of the dose given in the study.

    on what animal do they test aspartame?

    Offtopic, so this is my only post on the subject: aspartame has been extensively studied in many animals, including humans.

    the majority of most nutritional studies are done on rats because doing long term studies on humans is damn near impossible - so difficult that only a handful have EVER been done.

    I gave you a valid study. If it doesn't make you happy, that's on you. If you don't want to use it, don't. Good? Why don't we let people make up their own minds. For me, I stopped using it because I couldn't afford it. I also can't afford a mercedes, a rolex, or a nicer apartment. that doesn't mean i go around spouting that nice apartments are useless.

    at the end of the day it ALWAYS boils down to one thing - do your research and decide for yourself. don't listen to me or jonnythan because we're not you and don't know your circumstances/values/priorities.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    don't listen to me

    You heard it here first folks!
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    don't listen to me

    You heard it here first folks!
    :flowerforyou:
  • seena511
    seena511 Posts: 685 Member
    Everything found in Shakeology is from whole or raw food sources.

    i'd rather just eat that food then...
  • dangerxbadger
    dangerxbadger Posts: 396 Member
    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    lol wut.

    slim fast is not even a remotely similar product to shakeology...

    shakeology is not even remotely similar product to actual food.

    Eat food people. Food works.

    i agree with this.

    Food has worked miracles thus far.
  • seena511
    seena511 Posts: 685 Member

    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    lol wut.

    slim fast is not even a remotely similar product to shakeology...

    shakeology is not even remotely similar product to actual food.

    Eat food people. Food works.


    where do i get food people
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    lol wut.

    slim fast is not even a remotely similar product to shakeology...

    shakeology is not even remotely similar product to actual food.

    Eat food people. Food works.


    where do i get food people

    My local natural foods store has it. They call it "Soylent Green."
  • jfrankic
    jfrankic Posts: 747 Member
    I prefer chocolate cake made with real chocolate. IIFYM, then have it. No need for shakes.

    Couldn't agree more!!
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  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Everything found in Shakeology is from whole or raw food sources.

    i'd rather just eat that food then...

    the point is that you'd have to go to south america, and asia to do it.
  • realme56
    realme56 Posts: 1,093 Member
    I like to chew my food so I don't do either. And as far as Shakeology being natural..... that is not the way nature made those nutrients!
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member

    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    lol wut.

    slim fast is not even a remotely similar product to shakeology...

    shakeology is not even remotely similar product to actual food.

    Eat food people. Food works.


    where do i get food people

    I'm a diamond consultant food coach, and I can get you some free samples.
  • lizzyb83
    lizzyb83 Posts: 107 Member
    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    So back to your original point... there is a lot of fillers and sugar is Slim Fast, that's why it taste so good! You should play around with recipes and find a good one to make yourself! It will save you money and be a lot healthier!

    This was a fun post to read! Thanks for fueling this fire!
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I'd love to try Shakeology, actually.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member

    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    lol wut.

    slim fast is not even a remotely similar product to shakeology...

    shakeology is not even remotely similar product to actual food.

    Eat food people. Food works.


    where do i get food people

    i could tell you but then i'd have to kill you









    and serve you to my friends as a nutritious snack
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Shakeology has lots of nutrients in it and if you're body is not used to all the goodness then I think it takes awhile to get used to. It also really depends how you prepare your shake. Did you friend give you suggestions for making your sample?

    There really is no comparison between Shakeology and Slim Fast. Everything found in Shakeology is from whole or raw food sources. All the vitamins and minerals come from those super foods. Everything in Slim Fast is chemically processed and man made. I guess if your not big into where your food comes from then it doesn't matter, but you pretty much get what you pay for :)

    My friend told me to add...

    the 1 serving shakeology she gave me
    1 banana
    1-2 tbs of peanut butter
    1 cup milk
    1/2 cup water
    6-8 ice cubs
    and 1 tbs of vanilla extract or agave nectar

    Ain't nobody got time for that!:laugh:
  • lelandyarnell
    lelandyarnell Posts: 1
    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    lol wut.

    slim fast is not even a remotely similar product to shakeology...

    Sure they are. They're both nutritional shakes. It's really the marketing that's very different.

    says someone who's never compared the nutrition facts/ingredients list.

    they're not remotely similar.

    Indeed I have.

    Slim-fast:
    Calories 180
    Fat 6g
    Carbs 24g
    Protein 10g

    Shakeology:
    Calories 160
    Fat 2g
    Carbs 21g
    Protein 16g

    Not really very different. They're meal replacement shakes. Shakeology has a little less fat and more protein.

    calories, fat, carbs and protein isn't ingredients you DA. Sugar is the main ingredient in slim fast which obviously isn't healthy and they are trying to cover up the horrible aftertaste. cellulose gel... mmm found in ky lube... artificial sweeteners out the wazoo... yea that's healthy alright. of course you will lose weight drinking something under 200 calories for a meal, but doesn't mean it's healthy. you guys have some warped brains if you would drink something that is nutritionally bad for you in order to lose weight. just because you are desperate to do so doesn't mean u gotta take extreme measures and fill your body full of artificial crap that is going to do you more harm than good in the longrun.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    So, I just tried my first chocolate Shakeology today (a friend gave me a sample)... and I really must say I like Slim Fast a lot better.

    lol wut.

    slim fast is not even a remotely similar product to shakeology...

    Sure they are. They're both nutritional shakes. It's really the marketing that's very different.

    says someone who's never compared the nutrition facts/ingredients list.

    they're not remotely similar.

    Indeed I have.

    Slim-fast:
    Calories 180
    Fat 6g
    Carbs 24g
    Protein 10g

    Shakeology:
    Calories 160
    Fat 2g
    Carbs 21g
    Protein 16g

    Not really very different. They're meal replacement shakes. Shakeology has a little less fat and more protein.

    calories, fat, carbs and protein isn't ingredients you DA. Sugar is the main ingredient in slim fast which obviously isn't healthy and they are trying to cover up the horrible aftertaste. cellulose gel... mmm found in ky lube... artificial sweeteners out the wazoo... yea that's healthy alright. of course you will lose weight drinking something under 200 calories for a meal, but doesn't mean it's healthy. you guys have some warped brains if you would drink something that is nutritionally bad for you in order to lose weight. just because you are desperate to do so doesn't mean u gotta take extreme measures and fill your body full of artificial crap that is going to do you more harm than good in the longrun.

    Would you tell us what DA means, please?
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Just checking :laugh:
  • jfan175
    jfan175 Posts: 812 Member
    Did somebody just say "Himalayan Sea Salt"?


    Fresh from the Himalayan Ocean.
  • angieleighbyrd
    angieleighbyrd Posts: 989 Member
    I did slimfast years ago. I do shakeology now. Been doing it about 2 months. I like it. different strokes for different folks.
  • MzzFaith
    MzzFaith Posts: 337 Member
    I prefer Whey Pure Protein Plus
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    Neither... you can make your own shakes taste better for a lot less money.

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