Why does it still feel like I'm torturing myself?
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Really? You get macro and micro nutrients from pop tarts and cake? I am sure those are very good sources of what ever very little nutrients they do have.....
You can still lose weight and NOT be focusing on nutrition, I could eat cereal and pop tarts all day and still lose weight if I stay in my calorie range that does not mean I should or that i am healthy even if i am losing weight. I have no restrictions other then I don't eat fastfood or drink soda, because I find it disgusting now.
Yeah chocolate cake, poppers and pizza for breakfast. Tell me more about how you guys give strangers advice that you think they should listen to? Because at this point you all seem like a huge joke.
Yeah I don't think I want to load up on sugar and carbs for my breakfast. Why not just have a piece of cake for breakfast?To set things straight, foods that are considered "dirty" or otherwise "unhealthy" DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT AND I REPEAT THEY DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT! An excess of calories makes you fat. A maintenance of calories keeps your fat the same and a deficit in calories makes you lose fat. It's common sense. Don't blame the fast food, don't blame the cookies or the sugar. Blame the AMOUNT you eat. It's alright to have food you like. I had a cupcake this morning. The other day I had a ton of biscoff. I eat out every Sunday. I still lose fat, maintain strength and my overall health is a lot better!
Peace and stay sane.
Sometimes I do. If you leave chocolate cake on my counter, it's going to be chocolate cake for breakfast. Or it might be pizza for breakfast or I hear cheese poppers are pretty good. As long as it fits my budget, I really don't care if it comes from the sugar and fat food groups.
Hmmm...I've lost over 60lbs and still losing...mostly inches at the moment, but still losing and getting fit. AND, I still eat my fair share of chocolate, pizza, and other goodies. I do so in moderation and I'm able to keep pushing forward because I don't stress the hell out over one or two days over, or "OMG, I ate a poptart". I'm living my life...not focusing on a diet with so many restrictions that I'd end up just rage quitting over.
So is it "my fair share of" or in moderation? Because those are conflicting.
My point is I choose what I eat and am diligent about meeting both my macros and micros. And a poptart, cake, etc - fits into that quite well
The only thing I might restrict is dairy because I'm lactose intolerant. But even then, I will take lactaid so I can still eat my ice cream 
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Please show me the direct insults? Did I call someone a bad name? I don't think so. Claiming something is a "joke" is my opinion of this overall forum.@shosho420 Btw I'm still waiting for a counterargument. Or can all you do is put others down and insult them for their success? Are you having trouble with fat loss, or maybe it's jealousy? Come back when you have something positive to contribute.
PM me sometime, we'll talk.
You made a myriad of sarcastic remarks towards me and many others on this thread because it did not agree with "your way of doing things". As for showing you, I do not need to nor will I waste my time. All of your comments are already posted on this thread, if you would like to review them please do so.0 -
Please show me the direct insults? Did I call someone a bad name? I don't think so. Claiming something is a "joke" is my opinion of this overall forum.@shosho420 Btw I'm still waiting for a counterargument. Or can all you do is put others down and insult them for their success? Are you having trouble with fat loss, or maybe it's jealousy? Come back when you have something positive to contribute.
PM me sometime, we'll talk.
Well it's really good thing you're here to straighten us all out. Uh...not.
Three pages ago you said "this isn't my thread." But apparently you think it is.
Stop obsessing over telling everyone what you believe. We heard you the first twenty times.
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This isn't MY topic. I do eat candy and junk food. I just don't typically BUY it until I want it eat it right then Chips get stale after you open them anyways and I have never been a chip person.
My thing is easy to understand, it REALLY IS GUISE. I could easily buy all those foods and NOT eat them, that isn't my problem, the problem is why would I? Why would I even let their be a chance that I am going to gorge? Why even have that in my house? Sure I could forget its there and not eat it, but its just easier to not buy it, and it makes more sense. If I want a candy bar I will go to the store (I live right next to one) and BUY a candy bar. But I have the urge to sit around and munch to much so if I have that in my house its bound to get munched on. Its just makes more LOGICAL sense as someone trying to lose weight to not load my cabinets with all that junk, its easier to avoid temptation. Would you take an alcoholic to a sports bar? Probably not.
Granted I do have junk food in my house right now that I do not eat. But I am not going to go out and purposely buy all my fav junk food when I am on a diet. I do have common sense.
You're missing the point. We told her she shouldn't avoid her favorite foods and that it's okay to have them in moderation. NOBODY is telling her to "fill her cupboards". You're blowing this out of proportion and have turned it into your personal b*tchfest. Why do you care what other people eat? If you know everything and do everything perfectly, then sit back, wallow in your smugness, and let the rest of us keep losing weight the way it works for US.0 -
Really? You get macro and micro nutrients from pop tarts and cake? I am sure those are very good sources of what ever very little nutrients they do have.....
You can still lose weight and NOT be focusing on nutrition, I could eat cereal and pop tarts all day and still lose weight if I stay in my calorie range that does not mean I should or that i am healthy even if i am losing weight. I have no restrictions other then I don't eat fastfood or drink soda, because I find it disgusting now.
Yeah chocolate cake, poppers and pizza for breakfast. Tell me more about how you guys give strangers advice that you think they should listen to? Because at this point you all seem like a huge joke.
Yeah I don't think I want to load up on sugar and carbs for my breakfast. Why not just have a piece of cake for breakfast?To set things straight, foods that are considered "dirty" or otherwise "unhealthy" DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT AND I REPEAT THEY DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT! An excess of calories makes you fat. A maintenance of calories keeps your fat the same and a deficit in calories makes you lose fat. It's common sense. Don't blame the fast food, don't blame the cookies or the sugar. Blame the AMOUNT you eat. It's alright to have food you like. I had a cupcake this morning. The other day I had a ton of biscoff. I eat out every Sunday. I still lose fat, maintain strength and my overall health is a lot better!
Peace and stay sane.
Sometimes I do. If you leave chocolate cake on my counter, it's going to be chocolate cake for breakfast. Or it might be pizza for breakfast or I hear cheese poppers are pretty good. As long as it fits my budget, I really don't care if it comes from the sugar and fat food groups.
Hmmm...I've lost over 60lbs and still losing...mostly inches at the moment, but still losing and getting fit. AND, I still eat my fair share of chocolate, pizza, and other goodies. I do so in moderation and I'm able to keep pushing forward because I don't stress the hell out over one or two days over, or "OMG, I ate a poptart". I'm living my life...not focusing on a diet with so many restrictions that I'd end up just rage quitting over.
So is it "my fair share of" or in moderation? Because those are conflicting.
My point is I choose what I eat and am diligent about meeting both my macros and micros. And a poptart, cake, etc - fits into that quite well The only thing I might restrict is dairy because I'm lactose intolerant. But even then, I will take lactaid so I can still eat my ice cream
Mmhmm. But they still have nutrients and can be worked in to my daily goals. Either way...Are you just planning on griping at everyone that manages to be healthy and treat themselves while hijacking the thread? Or are you going to let things get back to the OP?0 -
This isn't MY topic. I do eat candy and junk food. I just don't typically BUY it until I want it eat it right then Chips get stale after you open them anyways and I have never been a chip person.
My thing is easy to understand, it REALLY IS GUISE. I could easily buy all those foods and NOT eat them, that isn't my problem, the problem is why would I? Why would I even let their be a chance that I am going to gorge? Why even have that in my house? Sure I could forget its there and not eat it, but its just easier to not buy it, and it makes more sense. If I want a candy bar I will go to the store (I live right next to one) and BUY a candy bar. But I have the urge to sit around and munch to much so if I have that in my house its bound to get munched on. Its just makes more LOGICAL sense as someone trying to lose weight to not load my cabinets with all that junk, its easier to avoid temptation. Would you take an alcoholic to a sports bar? Probably not.
Granted I do have junk food in my house right now that I do not eat. But I am not going to go out and purposely buy all my fav junk food when I am on a diet. I do have common sense.
You're missing the point. We told her she shouldn't avoid her favorite foods and that it's okay to have them in moderation. NOBODY is telling her to "fill her cupboards". You're blowing this out of proportion and have turned it into your personal b*tchfest. Why do you care what other people eat? If you know everything and do everything perfectly, then sit back, wallow in your smugness, and let the rest of us keep losing weight the way it works for US.
^^Yep. Just because someone eats pizza or cake for breakfast, or 1/2 pizza for supper, or whatever...does not meant that that is ALL they eat ALL the time. Dawg! I ate 4 chocolate chip cookies this afternoon. But before that, I ate a large salad w/chicken. Mouse lady is all over the place with her opinion and twisting what others are saying. My head hurts. I'm out. You guys can continue with her.0 -
Telling someone that its ok to have chocolate cake, cupcakes and other **** for breakfast is encouraging unhealthy behavior. Sure everything in moderation is fine. But I have to take what you all say as a huge joke because no one could really be suggesting something so ridiculous. I responded to someone responding to my initial post, if people didn't constantly quote it, I wouldn't of responded, its that simple.This isn't MY topic. I do eat candy and junk food. I just don't typically BUY it until I want it eat it right then Chips get stale after you open them anyways and I have never been a chip person.
My thing is easy to understand, it REALLY IS GUISE. I could easily buy all those foods and NOT eat them, that isn't my problem, the problem is why would I? Why would I even let their be a chance that I am going to gorge? Why even have that in my house? Sure I could forget its there and not eat it, but its just easier to not buy it, and it makes more sense. If I want a candy bar I will go to the store (I live right next to one) and BUY a candy bar. But I have the urge to sit around and munch to much so if I have that in my house its bound to get munched on. Its just makes more LOGICAL sense as someone trying to lose weight to not load my cabinets with all that junk, its easier to avoid temptation. Would you take an alcoholic to a sports bar? Probably not.
Granted I do have junk food in my house right now that I do not eat. But I am not going to go out and purposely buy all my fav junk food when I am on a diet. I do have common sense.
You're missing the point. We told her she shouldn't avoid her favorite foods and that it's okay to have them in moderation. NOBODY is telling her to "fill her cupboards". You're blowing this out of proportion and have turned it into your personal b*tchfest. Why do you care what other people eat? If you know everything and do everything perfectly, then sit back, wallow in your smugness, and let the rest of us keep losing weight the way it works for US.
I was simply pointing out that some people got fat through having addictive personalities and addiction to some of this food, so suggesting that they still have "a little" is a pretty toxic suggestion. Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.0 -
HmmTelling someone that its ok to have chocolate cake, cupcakes and other **** for breakfast is encouraging unhealthy behavior.
andSure everything in moderation is fine.
Do not match.
If everything in moderation is okay, why are you arguing so fervently?0 -
Telling someone that its ok to have chocolate cake, cupcakes and other **** for breakfast is encouraging unhealthy behavior. Sure everything in moderation is fine. But I have to take what you all say as a huge joke because no one could really be suggesting something so ridiculous. I responded to someone responding to my initial post, if people didn't constantly quote it, I wouldn't of responded, its that simple.This isn't MY topic. I do eat candy and junk food. I just don't typically BUY it until I want it eat it right then Chips get stale after you open them anyways and I have never been a chip person.
My thing is easy to understand, it REALLY IS GUISE. I could easily buy all those foods and NOT eat them, that isn't my problem, the problem is why would I? Why would I even let their be a chance that I am going to gorge? Why even have that in my house? Sure I could forget its there and not eat it, but its just easier to not buy it, and it makes more sense. If I want a candy bar I will go to the store (I live right next to one) and BUY a candy bar. But I have the urge to sit around and munch to much so if I have that in my house its bound to get munched on. Its just makes more LOGICAL sense as someone trying to lose weight to not load my cabinets with all that junk, its easier to avoid temptation. Would you take an alcoholic to a sports bar? Probably not.
Granted I do have junk food in my house right now that I do not eat. But I am not going to go out and purposely buy all my fav junk food when I am on a diet. I do have common sense.
You're missing the point. We told her she shouldn't avoid her favorite foods and that it's okay to have them in moderation. NOBODY is telling her to "fill her cupboards". You're blowing this out of proportion and have turned it into your personal b*tchfest. Why do you care what other people eat? If you know everything and do everything perfectly, then sit back, wallow in your smugness, and let the rest of us keep losing weight the way it works for US.
I was simply pointing out that some people got fat through having addictive personalities and addiction to some of this food, so suggesting that they still have "a little" is a pretty toxic suggestion. Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.
I have problems with overeating as well as emotional, stress, and bored eating. Yet, I still have managed to teach myself portion control and moderation. I don't need to punish myself for having a problem. I need to learn to deal with it and not let it control my life.0 -
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Telling someone that its ok to have chocolate cake, cupcakes and other **** for breakfast is encouraging unhealthy behavior. Sure everything in moderation is fine. But I have to take what you all say as a huge joke because no one could really be suggesting something so ridiculous. I responded to someone responding to my initial post, if people didn't constantly quote it, I wouldn't of responded, its that simple.
You're missing the point. We told her she shouldn't avoid her favorite foods and that it's okay to have them in moderation. NOBODY is telling her to "fill her cupboards". You're blowing this out of proportion and have turned it into your personal b*tchfest. Why do you care what other people eat? If you know everything and do everything perfectly, then sit back, wallow in your smugness, and let the rest of us keep losing weight the way it works for US.
I was simply pointing out that some people got fat through having addictive personalities and addiction to some of this food, so suggesting that they still have "a little" is a pretty toxic suggestion. Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.
The OP didn't give any indication that they were a food addict. They gave indication that they were finding sticky to strictly healthy foods torture.
So, given those details, which advice seems more reasonable. Page after page hijackign the thread aruging as if everyone is a food addict. Or letting the OP know that it's not unhealthy and won't ruin a weight loss plan to eat unhealthy once in a while?0 -
I understand. I think its funny that its been proven that snack foods are genetically modified to make you want more, more, more.
Telling someone that its ok to have chocolate cake, cupcakes and other **** for breakfast is encouraging unhealthy behavior. Sure everything in moderation is fine. But I have to take what you all say as a huge joke because no one could really be suggesting something so ridiculous. I responded to someone responding to my initial post, if people didn't constantly quote it, I wouldn't of responded, its that simple.This isn't MY topic. I do eat candy and junk food. I just don't typically BUY it until I want it eat it right then Chips get stale after you open them anyways and I have never been a chip person.
My thing is easy to understand, it REALLY IS GUISE. I could easily buy all those foods and NOT eat them, that isn't my problem, the problem is why would I? Why would I even let their be a chance that I am going to gorge? Why even have that in my house? Sure I could forget its there and not eat it, but its just easier to not buy it, and it makes more sense. If I want a candy bar I will go to the store (I live right next to one) and BUY a candy bar. But I have the urge to sit around and munch to much so if I have that in my house its bound to get munched on. Its just makes more LOGICAL sense as someone trying to lose weight to not load my cabinets with all that junk, its easier to avoid temptation. Would you take an alcoholic to a sports bar? Probably not.
Granted I do have junk food in my house right now that I do not eat. But I am not going to go out and purposely buy all my fav junk food when I am on a diet. I do have common sense.
You're missing the point. We told her she shouldn't avoid her favorite foods and that it's okay to have them in moderation. NOBODY is telling her to "fill her cupboards". You're blowing this out of proportion and have turned it into your personal b*tchfest. Why do you care what other people eat? If you know everything and do everything perfectly, then sit back, wallow in your smugness, and let the rest of us keep losing weight the way it works for US.
I was simply pointing out that some people got fat through having addictive personalities and addiction to some of this food, so suggesting that they still have "a little" is a pretty toxic suggestion. Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.
I have problems with overeating as well as emotional, stress, and bored eating. Yet, I still have managed to teach myself portion control and moderation. I don't need to punish myself for having a problem. I need to learn to deal with it and not let it control my life.
Characteristics Of Successful Snack Food
Finally, it would not be satiating.
No matter how much you ate, you would never be satisfied.
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?0 -
Telling someone that its ok to have chocolate cake, cupcakes and other **** for breakfast is encouraging unhealthy behavior. Sure everything in moderation is fine. But I have to take what you all say as a huge joke because no one could really be suggesting something so ridiculous. I responded to someone responding to my initial post, if people didn't constantly quote it, I wouldn't of responded, its that simple.This isn't MY topic. I do eat candy and junk food. I just don't typically BUY it until I want it eat it right then Chips get stale after you open them anyways and I have never been a chip person.
My thing is easy to understand, it REALLY IS GUISE. I could easily buy all those foods and NOT eat them, that isn't my problem, the problem is why would I? Why would I even let their be a chance that I am going to gorge? Why even have that in my house? Sure I could forget its there and not eat it, but its just easier to not buy it, and it makes more sense. If I want a candy bar I will go to the store (I live right next to one) and BUY a candy bar. But I have the urge to sit around and munch to much so if I have that in my house its bound to get munched on. Its just makes more LOGICAL sense as someone trying to lose weight to not load my cabinets with all that junk, its easier to avoid temptation. Would you take an alcoholic to a sports bar? Probably not.
Granted I do have junk food in my house right now that I do not eat. But I am not going to go out and purposely buy all my fav junk food when I am on a diet. I do have common sense.
You're missing the point. We told her she shouldn't avoid her favorite foods and that it's okay to have them in moderation. NOBODY is telling her to "fill her cupboards". You're blowing this out of proportion and have turned it into your personal b*tchfest. Why do you care what other people eat? If you know everything and do everything perfectly, then sit back, wallow in your smugness, and let the rest of us keep losing weight the way it works for US.
I was simply pointing out that some people got fat through having addictive personalities and addiction to some of this food, so suggesting that they still have "a little" is a pretty toxic suggestion. Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.
Calm down for 1 second. In the thread I did not tell anyone they should have cupcake for breakfast. All I said was is that I had a cup cake this morning. If you want to take a look at my diary it has been open since I have joined MFP. I also had eggs and lean turkey sausage along with that cupcake. Later I had Tuna and now i am enjoy a lean beef stirfry loaded with veggies. If I want a cup cake during breakfast I will. I'm not suggesting that others should. I suggest that you can have foods you love while losing fat. And that cup cake was a one time thing for me. Normally I would have that cup cake for lunch or maybe after dinner who knows
Today I wanted it with my Eggs To set things straight, foods that are considered "dirty" or otherwise "unhealthy" DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT AND I REPEAT THEY DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT! An excess of calories makes you fat. A maintenance of calories keeps your fat the same and a deficit in calories makes you lose fat. It's common sense. Don't blame the fast food, don't blame the cookies or the sugar. Blame the AMOUNT you eat. It's alright to have food you like. I had a cupcake this morning. The other day I had a ton of biscoff. I eat out every Sunday. I still lose fat, maintain strength and my overall health is a lot better!
Peace and stay sane.0 -
I understand. I think its funny that its been proven that snack foods are genetically modified to make you want more, more, more.
Characteristics Of Successful Snack Food
Finally, it would not be satiating.
No matter how much you ate, you would never be satisfied.
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?
Oh my. Are you serious?0 -
I would suggest change what your eating while still remaining under your calorie goal. I don't eat anything that I don't actually like. I hate celery. So I'm not going to eat it just because it's low calorie. Work hard to find foods that you would eat even if you weren't dieting that are lower calorie. I still eat chocolate and cookies and stuff, I just make sure I eat 1 or 2 and not 12. I had two mozzarella cheese sticks as part of my lunch. You could also work out harder or longer so you have more calories you can eat. Remember too, that once you're maintaining, you'll be able to eat more calories.
I think what people are talking about when they say you won't want to eat those "bad" foods anymore isn't that you won't like them anymore but that you'll feel like **** after you eat them. This happens to me. I'd been eating really well for weeks. I had a bad night and ate two Cadbury eggs and a bunch of Robin Eggs. They tasted awesome but I thought I was going to throw up afterwards. I'm not doing that again!0 -
Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.
I knew you'd get around to that sooner or later. Food is not comparable to alcohol or drugs. You need food to live and telling someone they have to give up food because they have an "addiction" to it would be ludicrous. No one is addicted to food in the same way they are to a mind altering substance. Don't even go there.
You may have tendencies to over eat, feel compelled to eat certain foods for satisfaction but it's a learned behaviour which can be changed and it doesn't have to be done through deprivation.
NOTE: I removed your original quote so you don't need to keep going back to it.0 -
As serious as someone eating chocolate cake for breakfast and giving advice on a weightless website.I understand. I think its funny that its been proven that snack foods are genetically modified to make you want more, more, more.
Characteristics Of Successful Snack Food
Finally, it would not be satiating.
No matter how much you ate, you would never be satisfied.
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?
Oh my. Are you serious?0 -
Except its been proven people get sugar addictions and caffeine addictions and since those are both found in tones of common foods, its very easy to get addicted to.Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.
I knew you'd get around to that sooner or later. Food is not comparable to alcohol or drugs. You need food to live and telling someone they have to give up food because they have an "addiction" to it would be ludicrous. No one is addicted to food in the same way they are to a mind altering substance. Don't even go there.
You may have tendencies to over eat, feel compelled to eat certain foods for satisfaction but it's a learned behaviour which can be changed and it doesn't have to be done through deprivation.
NOTE: I removed your original quote so you don't need to keep going back to it.0 -
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?
Because I DON"T want more. I don't like sugary food and snacks. They hurt my teeth and make me flushed. I can't remember the last time I ate a cookie or cupcake. Sugar doesn't have that effect on everybody. I will have a Hershey Kiss or a piece of pie on occasion, but I never want more because even that's pushing it.
And you said, earlier, that YOU eat stuff like that on occasion, so why do you keep arguing against everyone else who says they eat like that on occasion? It's okay for you to have a cookie, but nobody else can? We're all damned because we eat sugar once in a while and tempt addiction, but it's okay for you to have sugar once in a while?
How much weight have you lost, by the way? Do you have any pics, or are you just trolling?0 -
As serious as someone eating chocolate cake for breakfast and giving advice on a weightless website.I understand. I think its funny that its been proven that snack foods are genetically modified to make you want more, more, more.
Characteristics Of Successful Snack Food
Finally, it would not be satiating.
No matter how much you ate, you would never be satisfied.
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?
Oh my. Are you serious?
Still going about the one cupcake I had for breakfast.
I'll give you tip, Let it go. Move on with life. Quit your trolling.0 -
As serious as someone eating chocolate cake for breakfast and giving advice on a weightless website.I understand. I think its funny that its been proven that snack foods are genetically modified to make you want more, more, more.
Characteristics Of Successful Snack Food
Finally, it would not be satiating.
No matter how much you ate, you would never be satisfied.
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?
Oh my. Are you serious?
Still going about the one cupcake I had for breakfast.
I'll give you tip, Let it go. Move on with life. Quit your trolling.
No I think she's moved on to my chocolate cake now. There must be a calorie burn chart somewhere for trolling that allows you 3 cheese poppers per post.0 -
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?
Because I DON"T want more. I don't like sugary food and snacks. They hurt my teeth and make me flushed. I can't remember the last time I ate a cookie or cupcake. Sugar doesn't have that effect on everybody. I will have a Hershey Kiss or a piece of pie on occasion, but I never want more because even that's pushing it.
And you said, earlier, that YOU eat stuff like that on occasion, so why do you keep arguing against everyone else who says they eat like that on occasion? It's okay for you to have a cookie, but nobody else can? We're all damned because we eat sugar once in a while and tempt addiction, but it's okay for you to have sugar once in a while?
How much weight have you lost, by the way? Do you have any pics, or are you just trolling?
From time to time, I will have less than a serving of chocolate (1 oz) or half a snack sized back of peanut m&ms or a single serving of lemon gelato. I don't have a problem stopping after that because I usually end up full or having satisfied my craving. Sometimes I want a cookie so I have one snickerdoodle cookie (or make one of some other kind of cookie). I don't understand what the problem is. I have lost 22 lbs since the end of January doing just that. I have also learned what appropriate portions of "junk" food look like and taste like. Even when I hit maintenance, I will surely enjoy some amount of unhealthy food. However, I know what appropriate portions look like now and will be less likely to unknowingly over-indulge.0 -
As serious as someone eating chocolate cake for breakfast and giving advice on a weightless website.I understand. I think its funny that its been proven that snack foods are genetically modified to make you want more, more, more.
Characteristics Of Successful Snack Food
Finally, it would not be satiating.
No matter how much you ate, you would never be satisfied.
^^ since its been proven that biologically your body will want more, tell me again how you eat 1 cookie or 1 chip and have ZERO desire for another one, because it just isn't possible. Sure self control, but why torture yourself with that reaction your brain AUTOMATICALLY has to want more?
Oh my. Are you serious?
To clarify..this is My FITNESS Pal...not My WEIGHT LOSS Pal.
Not everyone is here to lose weight. Some are here to gain, maintain or just get fit.
I've eaten carrots and cucumbers..and I don't just stop at one piece either.0 -
No one is saying, "Have cake for breakfast every day." They're saying that sometimes it's ok to have cake, as a snack or as breakfast, and that might help keep someone on track more than feeling dissatisfied with their food if they're sticking to "can't eat that, can only eat healthy food" regimen.
I've been here over two years. The first six months was losing weight, and the rest has been maintaining and recomp. I'm eating way healthier than I did before I joined this site, but if I'd come on here with the intention of only eating lean meats and steamed vegetables, I'd have quit in the first two months and went back to how I ate before. When I have the opportunity to eat something yummy and decadent, I'm going to jump on that opportunity and not feel the least bit guilty about it, because I know that eating healthy MOST of the time is enough. I don't have to be perfect.0 -
As serious as someone eating chocolate cake for breakfast and giving advice on a weightless website.
Do you realize that everyone who has a chocolate muffin or cake or pancakes or Pop Tarts or whatever for breakfast every once in a great while has lost quite a bit of weight? We aren't advocating having cake for breakfast every day. You're missing the point, which was to tell that OP that if she's miserable eating boring food, it won't kill her weight loss to have a food she enjoys every so often. We say that because we're speaking FROM EXPERIENCE.
I'm still waiting to see your progress pictures and ticker.0 -
I'm eating way healthier than I did before I joined this site, but if I'd come on here with the intention of only eating lean meats and steamed vegetables, I'd have quit in the first two months and went back to how I ate before. When I have the opportunity to eat something yummy and decadent, I'm going to jump on that opportunity and not feel the least bit guilty about it, because I know that eating healthy MOST of the time is enough. I don't have to be perfect.
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Except its been proven people get sugar addictions and caffeine addictions and since those are both found in tones of common foods, its very easy to get addicted to.Would you tell a drunk its ok to have one drink? Oh but its ok have self control and everything in moderation.
I knew you'd get around to that sooner or later. Food is not comparable to alcohol or drugs. You need food to live and telling someone they have to give up food because they have an "addiction" to it would be ludicrous. No one is addicted to food in the same way they are to a mind altering substance. Don't even go there.
You may have tendencies to over eat, feel compelled to eat certain foods for satisfaction but it's a learned behaviour which can be changed and it doesn't have to be done through deprivation.
NOTE: I removed your original quote so you don't need to keep going back to it.
Caffeine is a drug and is addictive. Sugar is a food and is a craving not an addiction.
We could have a battle of wits here but I really hate fighting with someone who is unarmed.0 -
If it feels like torture, you're doing it wrong.
I saw this link posted back on page 2 or 3, may have been posted again, but I've had my best success since I discovered this topic: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/937712-in-place-of-a-road-map-ver-3-0
As others have said, it's a sustainable way to eat and enjoy the foods you love. Losing fat has literally been EASY, certainly not torturous, for me the past year, and I'm in better shape now in my mid 40's than I was in my 30's.
And sometimes I even eat chocolate cake before breakfast. :drinker:
My diary is open, check it out.0 -
As serious as someone eating chocolate cake for breakfast and giving advice on a weightless website.
Do you realize that everyone who has a chocolate muffin or cake or pancakes or Pop Tarts or whatever for breakfast every once in a great while has lost quite a bit of weight? We aren't advocating having cake for breakfast every day. You're missing the point, which was to tell that OP that if she's miserable eating boring food, it won't kill her weight loss to have a food she enjoys every so often. We say that because we're speaking FROM EXPERIENCE.
I'm still waiting to see your progress pictures and ticker.
I'm waiting as well. Or maybe you really are a rodent.
....one that knows how to operate a computer0 -
As serious as someone eating chocolate cake for breakfast and giving advice on a weightless website.
Do you realize that everyone who has a chocolate muffin or cake or pancakes or Pop Tarts or whatever for breakfast every once in a great while has lost quite a bit of weight? We aren't advocating having cake for breakfast every day. You're missing the point, which was to tell that OP that if she's miserable eating boring food, it won't kill her weight loss to have a food she enjoys every so often. We say that because we're speaking FROM EXPERIENCE.
I'm still waiting to see your progress pictures and ticker.
I'm waiting as well. Or maybe you really are a rodent.
....one that knows how to operate a computer
Or quite possibly someone who has made a 2nd account because they don't want to say these things on their main, or they were banned from the forums. It's been happening a lot recently.0
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