Myth: women can't bulk up

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  • TyFit08
    TyFit08 Posts: 799 Member
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    Jillian Michaels has pointed this out, that some women can bulk up easily, and she is one of them, so she does not lift heavy weights and she has to watch what she does and how she eats so she does not bulk up.

    Jillian Michaels has PCOS as do I. This means she has more testosterone than the average woman. So if you have PCOS, your muscles may develop quicker than someone else, putting in the same effort. I never heard her make those remarks. I have her Body Revolution and she does encourage going heavier if you can, but again heavier is relative. Her routines tend to promote higher reps with lower (not necessarily light) weights and they are very effective.
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
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    Jillian Michaels has pointed this out, that some women can bulk up easily, and she is one of them, so she does not lift heavy weights and she has to watch what she does and how she eats so she does not bulk up.

    Jillian Michaels has PCOS as do I. This means she has more testosterone than the average woman. So if you have PCOS, your muscles may develop quicker than someone else, putting in the same effort. I never heard her make those remarks. I have her Body Revolution and she does encourage going heavier if you can, but again heavier is relative. Her routines tend to promote higher reps with lower (not necessarily light) weights and they are very effective.

    I have PCOS and I lift heavy. I might make muscle faster than most women......but never at a deficit.....and even with the extra testosterone, we are still way lower than men
  • phatguerilla
    phatguerilla Posts: 188 Member
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    I want to know what the difference between training like a man and training like a woman is. Can you please explain, OP? Because I didn't know there was a specific way for each gender....

    Not sure if this was meant as a sarcastic comment or not, but assuming its serious...

    Women produce much less testosterone than men, that's one difference. Women's bone structures specifically their hips are different which can make a difference to certain exercises. Following on from that women are more susceptible to ACL injuries although you don't generally pick those up in the gym, unless something is badly wrong with a person's squat form.
    De- or un-trained women often have issues with bone density too even if not diagnosed as having osteoperosis, so in the beginning this can be a problem although weight training increases bone density so in time this will be ameliorated. Also women are generally capable of doing a higher number of reps than men at percentages close to their 1rm, I'm not entirely sure why this is again but iirc it has something to do muscular and/or neural efficiencies (I realise I'm not being very clear on this point).
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    I just came here to note that this woman probably injects herself with more hormones in a day than my body produces in a month.
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
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  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    I want to know what the difference between training like a man and training like a woman is. Can you please explain, OP? Because I didn't know there was a specific way for each gender....

    Not sure if this was meant as a sarcastic comment or not, but assuming its serious...

    Women produce much less testosterone than men, that's one difference. Women's bone structures specifically their hips are different which can make a difference to certain exercises. Following on from that women are more susceptible to ACL injuries although you don't generally pick those up in the gym, unless something is badly wrong with a person's squat form.
    De- or un-trained women often have issues with bone density too even if not diagnosed as having osteoperosis, so in the beginning this can be a problem although weight training increases bone density so in time this will be ameliorated. Also women are generally capable of doing a higher number of reps than men at percentages close to their 1rm, I'm not entirely sure why this is again but iirc it has something to do muscular and/or neural efficiencies (I realise I'm not being very clear on this point).

    It's because they tend to have more slow twitch fibers. Women also tend to recover faster.

    But what does this mean in terms of "training like a man" and "training like a woman"? What is the difference in the way they should train?

    From what you are saying, women should do higher reps closer to their 1rm. Will this make them less bulky than doing fewer reps (eg "training like a man)?
  • phatguerilla
    phatguerilla Posts: 188 Member
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    I want to know what the difference between training like a man and training like a woman is. Can you please explain, OP? Because I didn't know there was a specific way for each gender....

    Not sure if this was meant as a sarcastic comment or not, but assuming its serious...

    Women produce much less testosterone than men, that's one difference. Women's bone structures specifically their hips are different which can make a difference to certain exercises. Following on from that women are more susceptible to ACL injuries although you don't generally pick those up in the gym, unless something is badly wrong with a person's squat form.
    De- or un-trained women often have issues with bone density too even if not diagnosed as having osteoperosis, so in the beginning this can be a problem although weight training increases bone density so in time this will be ameliorated. Also women are generally capable of doing a higher number of reps than men at percentages close to their 1rm, I'm not entirely sure why this is again but iirc it has something to do muscular and/or neural efficiencies (I realise I'm not being very clear on this point).

    It's because they tend to have more slow twitch fibers. Women also tend to recover faster.

    But what does this mean in terms of "training like a man" and "training like a woman"? What is the difference in the way they should train?

    From what you are saying, women should do higher reps closer to their 1rm. Will this make them less bulky than doing fewer reps (eg "training like a man)?

    Well if women tend to recover faster then its possible to tailor their programmes with that in mind, using higher rep top sets even when going for strength and using a bit more volume. To recruit as much of the slow twitch fibres as possible higher reps should probably also be preferred. Sets of 8 for strength instead of 5 as is generally prescribed for men for instance, or instead of 3x5 using 5x5 or even more sets than that. That would be a different way of training. Having less testosterone and more slow twitch fibres is what will make women less bulky than men, as the fast twitch fibres have better/more potential for growth, although slow twitch will grow in time too.
  • Trechechus
    Trechechus Posts: 2,819 Member
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    I love all these body-shaming threads. Let the ladies who want muscles get muscles. If you don't want them shut up and work on your own krap.
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  • TyFit08
    TyFit08 Posts: 799 Member
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    Jillian Michaels has pointed this out, that some women can bulk up easily, and she is one of them, so she does not lift heavy weights and she has to watch what she does and how she eats so she does not bulk up.

    Jillian Michaels has PCOS as do I. This means she has more testosterone than the average woman. So if you have PCOS, your muscles may develop quicker than someone else, putting in the same effort. I never heard her make those remarks. I have her Body Revolution and she does encourage going heavier if you can, but again heavier is relative. Her routines tend to promote higher reps with lower (not necessarily light) weights and they are very effective.

    I have PCOS and I lift heavy. I might make muscle faster than most women......but never at a deficit.....and even with the extra testosterone, we are still way lower than men

    True we are still lower then men. A PCOS woman shouldn't limit her strength training to high reps, low weight due to high testosterone levels. But since a PCOS woman may build muscle quicker than the average woman, then she may need to adjust her program and diet to ensure that she gets the results she wants, whether that be a more muscular build or a softer look. I am tall and thin on the top. My upper body isn't as strong as I would like for it to be, but somehow even with minimal effort I will see muscle definition. This bothered me a great deal when I was a teenager because I didn't find broad shoulders on a tall woman the most feminine look. It's not a big deal to me now, but if my arms start to look bigger than I would like, of course I would reevaluate my routine and diet. People throw around the word bulky a lot, but I think what many are trying to express is more muscle definition than they would like. Just as some men are okay with working out to the point where they have no neck and other men don't desire that look, there are women who want visible muscles while not flexing and other women who don't. Whatever you choose just do it in a healthy way
  • james6998
    james6998 Posts: 743 Member
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    :noway: :noway: What?!? No way, I don't believe you! I've never seen this topic 100 times in the last 6 months!! :noway: :noway:

    It's true...I swear! We should be discussing more important things...like gaining muscle on a calorie deficit or why Planet Fitness sucks being as we never discuss those things either! ;)

    I have actually gained muscle eating a calorie deficit. 2lbs in the past 8 weeks actually. Dropped my BF% by 1.5%
  • Pmagnanifit
    Pmagnanifit Posts: 665 Member
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    Sigh I've been trying to get bulky for nine months... Even though I lift heavier each weak I can't get bigger
  • crandos
    crandos Posts: 377 Member
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    What makes you think she didnt take anything to increase her strenght to deadlift that much?
  • Danny_Boy13
    Danny_Boy13 Posts: 2,094 Member
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    Avoiding lifting because you fear you'll look like her is like being afraid to read a book or you'll turn into Stephen Hawking.

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: