Juicing VS eating Vegetables - THE REAL TRUTH!
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I say ultimately both play a substantial role in my health and day to day life!
In terms of juicing...I am definitely a juicing fiend. I'm not one for juice fasts, but have had my daily green juice for about a year now (haven't missed a day). The energy I get from green juice is unparalleled, not to mention in my digestion and skin. I could go on about the scientific reasons and nutrient assimilation, but I doubt anyone wants to hear about that. Point is, I could never eat the amount of vegetables I put into a juice. My daily juice consists of: 1 head kale, 2 stalks celery 2 stalks cucumber, handful of spinach, and a half a green apple. Imagine chowing down on that for breakfast.
Not a fan of juicing fruits, but it's a good way to ease into juicing.
Veggies, however, are in my opinion just as important. I don't feel as if I have filled my vegetable quota for the day just because I have my green juice...I still have room for my habitual green smoothie
(while I was losing weight, my breakfast ritual would be a green juice followed by a green smoothie) 0 -
I do both....juice AND eat my veggies....or sometimes have a green smoothie with freshly juiced carrot and lime....I also add ground flax to my juice....I find it gives me lots of energy personally....but I would never juice exclusively....0
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Every time someone mentions juicing, I just think of the movie WALL-E. Yeah, I'll stick to eating.
That's all I've got... everyone already posted good references :laugh:0 -
juicing removes the indigestible fiber that is present in vegetables.
That's not a good thing.0 -
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I just read an article about this yesterday, and it said that the fiber in fruits and vegetables slows your digestion which gives you time to absorb more of the nutrients, whereas the juice goes through pretty quickly and you don't get full absorption.0
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Only reason for juicing:
For everyone else, eat the fruit.0 -
So let's see if I got this straight. We're against processed foods for the most part and think whole foods are best. Then we want to go out and buy a machine that processes and whole food, removes valuable fiber, concentrates sugars and has to cleaned after instead of eat the whole food of fruits and veggies??? I'm so confused!! :huh:0
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fiber is overrated tbh.
you really don't need more than 25-40g of fiber, and even if you juice, you should be able to reach those goals pretty easily if you - wait for it - don't juice ALL your fruits and veggies.
damn it... that silly m-word rearing its head again.
the word is moderation.
IN to find out more about these mythical people that magically consume 25-40 grams of fiber daily, before they eat fruits and veggies. Who are these Rabbit People, and which planets do they hail from?
sorry buddy, but I said that you can juice AND meet your fiber goals. I do.
you just don't juice everything.
reading comprehension win!0 -
juicing removes the indigestible fiber that is present in vegetables.
That's not a good thing.
it can be. as long as you're getting enough fiber daily, juicing and removing the fiber allows more of the nutrients in the fruit to be absorbed and to be absorbed faster.
for instance, I juice first thing when I get up in the morning. couple carrots and an apple. 1) it's delicious and 2) the enzymes are great to improve my digestion, and 3) having that in my stomach by itself allows the nutrients to be absorbed quickly and help my body remain in a more alkaline state.
but guess what? I also have a big ole salad for lunch and I meet my fiber requirements every day.0 -
fiber is overrated tbh.
you really don't need more than 25-40g of fiber, and even if you juice, you should be able to reach those goals pretty easily if you - wait for it - don't juice ALL your fruits and veggies.
damn it... that silly m-word rearing its head again.
the word is moderation.
IN to find out more about these mythical people that magically consume 25-40 grams of fiber daily, before they eat fruits and veggies. Who are these Rabbit People, and which planets do they hail from?
sorry buddy, but I said that you can juice AND meet your fiber goals. I do.
you just don't juice everything.
reading comprehension win!
Soooooo...... someone that hates fruits and veggies so much they have to juice is going to juice AND eat a ton of fruits and veggies? Or they love it so much they are going to eat and drink fruits and veggies all day? Who are these Rabbit People?
Practical application fail!0 -
fiber is overrated tbh.
you really don't need more than 25-40g of fiber, and even if you juice, you should be able to reach those goals pretty easily if you - wait for it - don't juice ALL your fruits and veggies.
damn it... that silly m-word rearing its head again.
the word is moderation.
IN to find out more about these mythical people that magically consume 25-40 grams of fiber daily, before they eat fruits and veggies. Who are these Rabbit People, and which planets do they hail from?
sorry buddy, but I said that you can juice AND meet your fiber goals. I do.
you just don't juice everything.
reading comprehension win!
Soooooo...... someone that hates fruits and veggies so much they have to juice is going to juice AND eat a ton of fruits and veggies? Or they love it so much they are going to eat and drink fruits and veggies all day? Who are these Rabbit People?
Practical application fail!
someone that hates fruits and veggies needs to get over their first world problem, suck it up and learn to like them. i don't cater to whiners0 -
It's handy that so many of the most emphatic "pro-juicing" people are also willing to sell you their juicers. Funny thing, that.0
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... and .... BACK ON TOPIC ... Our family makes 'juice' with our Vitamix. Drop the fruit and/or veggie in the Vitamix blender, add some water (or whatever) and let it go to town. All the nutrients, all the pulp, all the flavor. Much better than juice, imo.
Me too! Love my Vitamix! I've been using the heck out of it for 6 years. Green smoothies ROCK! \o/0 -
Ick, I refuse to even contemplate drinking a "juiced" vegetable. I can't even stand smoothies though I know so many people love those. It's the thickness and the fact that I'd really rather just eat the food.0
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You can drink your veggies AND keep the fiber...that's why I have a Vitamix!0
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But the indigestible fiber helps me poop. And I like to poop.
Me too. I also like to chew.
This is a good point. Psychologically, chewing actually helps trigger satiety. Drinking juice --- not so much.0 -
I juice when I fancy a cold drink, I then use all the fiber to thicken soups and stews. Don't really change the flavour and means I get all the goodness not extracted by the juicer.
Now this is, IMO, a legitimate reason to juice -- you want a nice, cold drink, but want it to be healthy. Much better than soda, right? (Just keep it in moderation, like everything else)0 -
I just like simple. Eating fruits and veggies is simple. No appliance to clean. I love gooey, sticky mangoes and crunchy red delicious apples. Guavas, papaya, pineapple, cucumber.... damn it's like sacrilage to toss any of it away.
Plus, it's so filling. Doesn't juice leave you wanting more?0 -
Now this is, IMO, a legitimate reason to juice -- you want a nice, cold drink, but want it to be healthy. Much better than soda, right? (Just keep it in moderation, like everything else)
I do luv pomegranate and melon martinis.0 -
Well, I love eating vegetables and I HATE juicing, so for me, no question.
Me, too! I have a juicer. Cleaning up after juicing makes the BIGGEST mess!!0 -
But the indigestible fiber helps me poop. And I like to poop.
ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
there has? eating has been around for few million years. juicing has been around for a few years. now there's a debate over if we should eat food or sip it thru a straw? When did this happen?There has been a lot of debate - juicing or eating veggies?
I wish we would all stick with all things that happened "millions of years" ago. Good chance we would have no cars, no business, no anything you to live your life around...like the gym. Those did not exist a million years ago. Are they bad?
Back then they ate the fruit and vegetable. Actually we do not know... Now we have evidence that extracting the nutrients CAN be beneficial to a lot of people who lack nutrition. We did not have McDonalds for the past Million years and that is part of it. People that could gain nutrients now could, Now it is rare to get nutrients in the food of the average American diet. Too bad a juicer was not invented a million years ago. Then again don't drive your car, use a blender, or any other cooking device cause it did not exist a million years ago...
Juicing is great...and yes include whole fruits and vegetables in your diet.0 -
ABSOLUTELY, Juicing all the way!!! The Micro Nutrients are off the chart. I am presently doing a Vegan Raw Food Plan for 6 months...the first week I lost 10 lbs, felt great, but I had been transitioning BEFORE I went full boar. I would not recommend anyone just jump into Raw Veganism or just juicing for a long period. These 30/60 day juice fasts are crazy! After the 1st of the year I will slowly transition back to a semi-raw Vegan diet for Life...of course, juicing will always be a BIG part of My Life.
If fact I have 2 juicers...Jack Lelaine, and Breville, will eventually get a Masticating juicer to get even more from My fruit and veggies, especially the green leafy veggies (this is where all of the protein and calcium are, and of course fruit is the energy, raw nuts and seeds -some fruits (olives, coconut, and avocado) are the essential fats)!
ETA: You will be surprised to know that you need very little fiber when you don't eat a lot of meat and "counterfeit" carbs (pasta, bread, cereal...) Many experts have adjusted their view on just how much fiber we really need. But even in FRESH juice there is a lot of fiber (if you don't restrain it out).0 -
ABSOLUTELY, Juicing all the way!!! The Micro Nutrients are off the chart. I am presently doing a Vegan Raw Food Plan for 6 months...the first week I lost 10 lbs, felt great, but I had been transitioning BEFORE I went full boar. I would not recommend anyone just jump into Raw Veganism or just juicing for a long period. These 30/60 day juice fasts are crazy! After the 1st of the year I will slowly transition back to a semi-raw Vegan diet for Life...of course, juicing will always be a BIG part of My Life.
If fact I have 2 juicers...Jack Lelaine, and Breville, will eventually get a Masticating juicer to get even more from My fruit and veggies, especially the green leafy veggies (this is where all of the protein and calcium are, and of course fruit is the energy, raw nuts and seeds -some fruits (olives, coconut, and avocado) are the essential fats)!
ETA: You will be surprised to know that you need very little fiber when you don't eat a lot of meat and "counterfeit" carbs (pasta, bread, cereal...) Many experts have adjusted their view on just how much fiber we really need. But even in FRESH juice there is a lot of fiber (if you don't restrain it out).
I have a masticating mouth. I like to chew my food instead of using a machine to do it.
Part of the reason I stay away from juicing is that I understand my body is not a machine, but rather an ecosystem. Human cells are outnumbered by non human cells in this ecosystem by more than ten to one. That's one of you, ten of them. We still don't know everything about gut flora, but we do know they are a major part of digestion, absorption, immunity, BODY COMPOSITION, and in some cases the production of micronutrients. We also know that the flora in your gut live off of all the "useless" things in our food. When i am told that you make eating "more efficient", with "less waste", I immediately think of what happens to all the critters in your gut who are now out of a job. I think about what happens to a forest when biodiversity is reduced.
When I hear someone speak of the human digestive as being capable of this, and not that, or absorbing this, but not that, or about how juicing allows them to get all the nutrients from their veggies, and not a word about managing the ecosystem within, I simply have to roll my eyes because its like someone talking about bleeding to cure illness, or avoiding cholera by filtering air so as not to encounter a disease causing miasma that has settled over their town.
When observed from a culture-neutral distance, juicing is supported by much of the same logic as the diet advocated by Horace Fletcher. I found a nice summary of his diet. If is sounds outlandish, that's because it is, but if fletcher were alive now, we would inevitably have to act all respectful towards people lacking the critical thinking skills necessary to avoid this lunacy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20695743
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Chew and spit
At the turn of the 20th Century the American, Horace Fletcher, decided a lot of chewing and spitting was the way to lose weight
Fletcherism, as it was called, promoted chewing a mouthful of food until all "goodness" was extracted, then spitting out the fibrous material that was left.
He was fairly prescriptive in how many times you had to chew different foods. Just one shallot needed to be chewed 700 times.
It was hugely popular and had some famous followers, including Henry James and Franz Kafka.
It got to a point where people were timed at dinner parties to make sure they were chewing enough, says Foxcroft.
"The diet also meant only defecating once every two weeks and it was nearly odourless, described by Fletcher as smelling like 'warm biscuits'," she says.
"Fletcher carried a sample of his own faeces around with him to illustrate this wonder." "0 -
Only reason for juicing:
For everyone else, eat the fruit.
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I don't like the idea of consuming your fruits and veggies in juice form. The fiber is the main thing lost but in my opinion the fiber is the most important reason to eat fruits and veggies. They greatly help slow absorbtion of our meals and they aid in proper digestion. Vitamins aren't as important because you get them from your multi anyway. Not to say they aren't great but I believe losing the fiber defeats the main purpose of eating fruits / veggies.
If you take a fiber supplement then sure go ahead. It's obviously much better to drink carrot juice or whatever then is would be to drink soda.But the indigestible fiber helps me poop. And I like to poop.
^^ Yep and yep0 -
Also, why is it that you think that your digestive system is incapable of extracting nutrients just because fibre is present?
(Plus, yeah. Pooping and chewing are both amazeballs.)
This! Totes amazeballs0 -
Ha ha everyone thinks people that juice don't eat any thing else to chew or with fibre.
I hate to poop, a raw clean diet means everything goes through the digestive track fast, without staying days or
years in the digestive track! Which is worse YUK!0 -
my thoughts.
why should it matter which is healthier than the others?
i prefer eating them cause of the fibers.
juicing.. i have never found an ingredient that i personally would enjoy for juice.
now smoothies. putting everything in the blender. = much love.
(best part is. i dont need to put sugar at all)
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my thoughts.
why should it matter which is healthier than the others?
i prefer eating them cause of the fibers.
juicing.. i have never found an ingredient that i personally would enjoy for juice.
now smoothies. putting everything in the blender. = much love.
(best part is. i dont need to put sugar at all)
Yes smoothies oh fruits berries bananas nut seed cacao powder , plain yogurt , gentle non dairy milks, oh smoothie heaven
nearly better (hmmmmm so close) than sex!!!0
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