Abercrombie and Fitch CEO "hates fat chicks"
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I have not shopped at that store and do not defend any poor choices they make.
But, that aside, it is important to know that there are a lot of plus sized only stores.
Also, the vast majority of stores do not sell the xxs sizes. So, when there is a store that specializes in smaller sizes, only sells smaller sizes, or sells sizes in smaller sizes that are a size small (instead of selling an extra small that is actually a medium). Those are the stores I am going to shop at, and take note of and know that I will be able to go to that store and actually find clothing that fits me.
Whenever I hear people complaining that a certain store only sells small sizes I go check it out because maybe that will be a place that will be easy for me to shop at, that will have a wider selection and will actually maybe even have some items that fit me. Small people need clothing and lingerie also. The reality is that anyone that is either larger than average or smaller than average is going to have trouble finding clothing, and as a result there will be companies that cater to smaller people and companies that cater to larger people.
This is a good perspective from the other side. I think anyone can specialize in anything they wish but someone is always going to yell fire.
The problem I have is it's just dumb as a company to associate yourself with hating on any type of person. He obviously lost his censor button in all that high society. Other than that, I couldn't care less about his opinion.0 -
How can this be a suprise? Have you been into one of their stores? It's all 'sample sizes' from what I remember.
I'm pretty sure someone in the UK sued them. They fired her because she was disabled and didn't fit their image.0 -
This is old news. People still care about Abercrombie and Fitch?
Exactly.0 -
Their clothes suck anyways.0
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This reads like i'm watching "Zoolander".0 -
Stores like Lane Bryant only cater to plus size. How is that different? It's the clientele he chooses to bring into his store. As someone who wouldn't fit into the clothes there, it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the nauseating scent that triggers my chronic migraines. That pisses me off.
Lane Bryant has better quality.
But I don't shop there anymore. I get my stuff from Hoe'sRus.0 -
Their clothes suck anyways.
That is why I don't let you wear any.0 -
Do they have a website? :laugh:Stores like Lane Bryant only cater to plus size. How is that different? It's the clientele he chooses to bring into his store. As someone who wouldn't fit into the clothes there, it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the nauseating scent that triggers my chronic migraines. That pisses me off.
Lane Bryant has better quality.
But I don't shop there anymore. I get my stuff from Hoe'sRus.0 -
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I took my daughters in there one time, and they found a boatload of stuff on sale--I mean a ton things. As the nasty little sale person was ringing up our stuff (I mean tons, maybe 30 items or more--it was a huge sale), I asked him about their perfume, and he looked up at me, and gave me a snarl and smugly said...that's number 8 or something like that....
I said, wow...are you having a good day, because your attitude is kinda, ummmm....not cool. He looked a bit shocked, straighten up just a wee bit, and keep ringing up our HUGE load of stuff and didn't bother to answer me. As I was watching him ring our stuff up...I was looking around at the weird pics and told my daughters, ya know what? I don't like the "tudes" up in here--my two daughters whispered to me and said--that's why we never come in here--it's weird up in here, mother--let's go somewhere else--to Lucky Brand instead. I said, you're right! The young dude looked at me and rolled his prissy eyes and continued ringing up our huge purchase. I just looked at him--with one eye brow raised. When it got to the last item, it gave me the total...which was a lot and he dared to say, hmmmph he gave me the total.... I looked at him and said:
"Ya know what sweetie...I don't like your attitude--I've changed my mind--I'm not getting any of this stuff, I'm going to take my daughters to Lucky Brand instead and give them our money and business instead of you--so you can just cancel that big huge order and have fun putting all that stuff back....then I said--- HMMMMPH!
He looked at me and said, oh my God, I'm sorry, I'm sorry--I'm soooo sorry!!!! I told him I am too--next time he'd better treat people like he wants to be treated, and not like your customers are doing you a favor honey and my daughters and I flounced out the store with prissy delight and shopped until we dropped at Lucky Brand instead (which is one of my daughters favorite stores).
My daughters have NEVER stepped their skinny selves in that store since!
Hmmmmmph :smooched:0 -
I have not shopped at that store and do not defend any poor choices they make.
But, that aside, it is important to know that there are a lot of plus sized only stores.
Also, the vast majority of stores do not sell the xxs sizes. So, when there is a store that specializes in smaller sizes, only sells smaller sizes, or sells sizes in smaller sizes that are a size small (instead of selling an extra small that is actually a medium). Those are the stores I am going to shop at, and take note of and know that I will be able to go to that store and actually find clothing that fits me.
Whenever I hear people complaining that a certain store only sells small sizes I go check it out because maybe that will be a place that will be easy for me to shop at, that will have a wider selection and will actually maybe even have some items that fit me. Small people need clothing and lingerie also. The reality is that anyone that is either larger than average or smaller than average is going to have trouble finding clothing, and as a result there will be companies that cater to smaller people and companies that cater to larger people.
This is a good perspective from the other side. I think anyone can specialize in anything they wish but someone is always going to yell fire.
The problem I have is it's just dumb as a company to associate yourself with hating on any type of person. He obviously lost his censor button in all that high society. Other than that, I couldn't care less about his opinion.
Yeah, I agree with you.0 -
Stores like Lane Bryant only cater to plus size. How is that different? It's the clientele he chooses to bring into his store. As someone who wouldn't fit into the clothes there, it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the nauseating scent that triggers my chronic migraines. That pisses me off.
I'm not sure if you read the article but the title "Abercrombie and Fitch CEO "hates fat chicks" isn't exactly fitting.
He is basically saying only cool kids should be wearing his clothes. Like, high school "cool" kids. This guy is a grown man and worried about his clothing being worn by the unpopular kids in school.0 -
Yeah. I read it, and I agree with the fact that the title kind of stretched it, but like I said in another post, it's simple marketing. He chose his market as the "cool kids" so that's who he's tailoring to. It's just business.Stores like Lane Bryant only cater to plus size. How is that different? It's the clientele he chooses to bring into his store. As someone who wouldn't fit into the clothes there, it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the nauseating scent that triggers my chronic migraines. That pisses me off.
I'm not sure if you read the article but the title "Abercrombie and Fitch CEO "hates fat chicks" isn't exactly fitting.
He is basically saying only cool kids should be wearing his clothes. Like, high school "cool" kids. This guy is a grown man and worried about his clothing being worn by the unpopular kids in school.0 -
I have not shopped at that store and do not defend any poor choices they make.
But, that aside, it is important to know that there are a lot of plus sized only stores.
Also, the vast majority of stores do not sell the xxs sizes. So, when there is a store that specializes in smaller sizes, only sells smaller sizes, or sells sizes in smaller sizes that are a size small (instead of selling an extra small that is actually a medium). Those are the stores I am going to shop at, and take note of and know that I will be able to go to that store and actually find clothing that fits me.
Whenever I hear people complaining that a certain store only sells small sizes I go check it out because maybe that will be a place that will be easy for me to shop at, that will have a wider selection and will actually maybe even have some items that fit me. Small people need clothing and lingerie also. The reality is that anyone that is either larger than average or smaller than average is going to have trouble finding clothing, and as a result there will be companies that cater to smaller people and companies that cater to larger people.
that's fine, but you don't hear anyone going around saying "i hate skinny chicks" or "these clothes aren't meant to represent skinny people"...0 -
Sometimes brand image and exclusivity are more important than dollar signs. I may not always agree with who companies want to exclude but it is their right to do so. Courvoisier Cognac basically made a blanket press release asking all the rappers to stop using their Cognac in songs and videos because it reflects poorly on their brand heritage. Of course the rappers all cried racism, but I can't blame Beam at all. That is supposed to be a rich tradition filled brand and instead it's being dumped out on "ho's in videos" with people acting like animals. Same thing happened to Lamborghini with rappers. I link this to that. If they only want people they consider attractive in their clothing, that's their prerogative. Rolex shouldn't be forced to make a $100 watch so that "everyone could have one" to be fair even if their was tons of money in it for them, because it would completely ruin the esteem of the brand.
I mean, look at me. I would never fit in that store. I probably wouldn't be very welcome at that store. I might even have security called just for entering that store. It doesn't change the fact that I support their right to market their brand and their product however they so choose.0 -
Well that is simple for me... was apparently not "cool" cause I was fat, and now I could fit into their clothes if I WANTED, but yeah I would like to thank that twatwaffle for making my decision easier by making this statement.
So as a "reformed" fat chick - he can eat my former fat shorts0 -
Stores like Lane Bryant only cater to plus size. How is that different? It's the clientele he chooses to bring into his store. As someone who wouldn't fit into the clothes there, it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the nauseating scent that triggers my chronic migraines. That pisses me off.
Well I think the difference is we don't find the owner of lane bryant saying really evil mean things about people who don't fit into their clothing. Their sales reps on the other hand. IDK. Been kind of rude to me. At least on my recent shopping trip. She HATED the fact that the reason I did not know my bra size was cause I lost weight.
But yeah, I think that's the difference. If I saw MR or MS lane bryant saying mean things about thin people, i'd avoid that store too. then i'd have nowhere to shop either overwieght or thin and have to walk around nekkid.0 -
i feel grateful he only wants tiny things to wear his stuff...
honest...
the last time I was in their store...all I remember was that it was dark, narrow, with fake palm trees all over the place and almost everything of the girls in either disgusting plaid combinations or huge dark blue floral prints...
i'm sorry...but i'm not really a fan of either of those patterns....he can keep draping those on his tiny preferences...
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Who cares?
Someone else mentioned that stores like Lane Bryant do the same thing. I can't shop at Lane Bryant because their clothes are just a little too big for me. It doesn't make me upset in any way, so why should we get upset if stores won't carry a larger size?
Don't like it, don't shop there. It's that simple.
I don't agree with him hating fat women, of course. However, he is entitled to his opinion and how he runs his business is how own business, really.0 -
Oh, so the CEO of a company famous for idiotic ads and obnoxious service made an *kitten* out of himself? I'm shocked.0
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Are we all shopping at the same Abercrombie and Fitch? I mean, I agree that shopping in such a dimly lit, loud, cologne-filled environment isn't pleasant compared to many other stores, but I'm not sure where this idea that their clothes are soooo small came from. Even at my heaviest (145ish at 5'4") I fit comfortably into an A&F medium/size 6. Their clothes fit like pretty well any other store in the mall and bigger than a lot of juniors stores.
I've bought A&F jeans for years as they fit my shape well (some hips but no butt) and are a lot cheaper than the designer brands I like which also fit my body. I wait for sales, get in, get out, and happily wear my perfectly fitting jeans. And yeah...they fit an average sized girl like me just fine. Dumb comments from their CEO don't change the way my jeans fit, luckily.0 -
Stores like Lane Bryant only cater to plus size. How is that different? It's the clientele he chooses to bring into his store. As someone who wouldn't fit into the clothes there, it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the nauseating scent that triggers my chronic migraines. That pisses me off.
Lane Bryant has better quality.
But I don't shop there anymore. I get my stuff from Hoe'sRus.
Oh shoot, can you point me in the right direction to their "locations" website page?0 -
Exactly. It seems that people here are essentially saying that they wouldn't care how he marketed his clothes if he didn't say it. That's not very fair to him.I can't shop at Lane Bryant because their clothes are just a little too big for me. It doesn't make me upset in any way, so why should we get upset if stores won't carry a larger size?
Don't like it, don't shop there. It's that simple.
I don't agree with him hating fat women, of course. However, he is entitled to his opinion and how he runs his business is how own business, really.
Basically, Mr. CEO, it's okay to hate fat people and not make clothes for them, just don't flat out say you hate fat people.0 -
As a fat chick, I don't give a rats *kitten*. He is entitled to his preferences. Why do people think that they are the only one who is allowed to have an opinion? Get over it.
I don't mind him having an opinion, just as long as he keeps it to himself in polite society like almost everyone else does. Except that I think he is purposely rattling some cages and then that's just another thing altogether. I take Binary's point quite well actually however, not surprising. Except again that his opinions border on rant like and shock value and seem disingenuine for this.
I don't expect anyone to keep their thoughts to themselves because I don't intend to keep mine to MYSELF. Free speech. It's not very polite after all to tell people that they can only say things that you approve of. I say he can say what ever he wants, if I don't like what he says, I am sure it wont keep me up tonight, or any other night, because I will get over it.
This! I don't care who hates fat chicks, I'll just take my fat self to JC Penney and spend my money there. Problem solved.0 -
I have not shopped at that store and do not defend any poor choices they make.
But, that aside, it is important to know that there are a lot of plus sized only stores.
Also, the vast majority of stores do not sell the xxs sizes. So, when there is a store that specializes in smaller sizes, only sells smaller sizes, or sells sizes in smaller sizes that are a size small (instead of selling an extra small that is actually a medium). Those are the stores I am going to shop at, and take note of and know that I will be able to go to that store and actually find clothing that fits me.
Whenever I hear people complaining that a certain store only sells small sizes I go check it out because maybe that will be a place that will be easy for me to shop at, that will have a wider selection and will actually maybe even have some items that fit me. Small people need clothing and lingerie also. The reality is that anyone that is either larger than average or smaller than average is going to have trouble finding clothing, and as a result there will be companies that cater to smaller people and companies that cater to larger people.
that's fine, but you don't hear anyone going around saying "i hate skinny chicks" or "these clothes aren't meant to represent skinny people"...
That's why I said I don't support the poor choices right at the top. And have gone on to explain that it's ok for a store to cater to a void in the market, but not ok to do it for the reasons that A&F is.
But, I do often hear people complaining when a store seems to cater to smaller sizes or when the sizes are smaller than in other stores. And I was only explaining that sometimes there is a non-offensive reason for that.0 -
i feel grateful he only wants tiny things to wear his stuff...
honest...
the last time I was in their store...all I remember was that it was dark, narrow, with fake palm trees all over the place and almost everything of the girls in either disgusting plaid combinations or huge dark blue floral prints...
i'm sorry...but i'm not really a fan of either of those patterns....he can keep draping those on his tiny preferences...
honest.
I didn't even know we had Abercrombie and fitch in Canada. It must be much less popular here.0 -
Yes Mistress.Their clothes suck anyways.
That is why I don't let you wear any.0 -
Nobody I know shops there....but regardless, I don't base my decision on whether to shop at any store on how a CEO or Board of Directors, or anyone in their company for that matter feels.
I didn't stop eating at chick-fil-a when that crap happened either. Someone's personal viewpoint, whether they keep it to themselves or spew it everywhere, is of little concern to me in the context of what I purchase.
Now, if we're talking about would you be friends with the CEO of A&F, I'd have to say no.0 -
I never shopped there because the first time I went in I was almost hit in the head with a football.
Apparently they allow those larger athletes to toss footballs near the entrance. I was not amused.0 -
Directly out of the article
"According to this popular teen clothing retailer, fat chicks will just never be a part of the “in” crowd."
So... if it is a popular teen clothing retailer... why do adults care? Does it suck that a Teenager can't shop there? Maybe if their friends are all doing it and maybe only for them... but you know what? There are a thousand other stores out there that sell clothes that will fit and look good on them so who cares?
As for the fat chicks in the "in" crowd...well I was never in the in crowd even when I was a size 2 or in high school, but I do know there were fat chicks in the in crowd where I grew up so that's just moot point.
It's his opinion, the company's prerogative and nothing you are going to say - or do is going to change that. You could just go down to H&M or A&E and get the same kind of store and get the bigger sizes if you really want....
I was never a fan of A&F but that's partially because their store tried to kill me once with the smell that came out of it (Seriously talking 3 day migraine) ....lets move on shall we?0 -
Are we all shopping at the same Abercrombie and Fitch? I mean, I agree that shopping in such a dimly lit, loud, cologne-filled environment isn't pleasant compared to many other stores, but I'm not sure where this idea that their clothes are soooo small came from. Even at my heaviest (145ish at 5'4") I fit comfortably into an A&F medium/size 6. Their clothes fit like pretty well any other store in the mall and bigger than a lot of juniors stores.
I've bought A&F jeans for years as they fit my shape well (some hips but no butt) and are a lot cheaper than the designer brands I like which also fit my body. I wait for sales, get in, get out, and happily wear my perfectly fitting jeans. And yeah...they fit an average sized girl like me just fine. Dumb comments from their CEO don't change the way my jeans fit, luckily.
Oh well it's just that your heaviest and my heaviest aren't the same. But no offense I'm glad you're still small at your largest. It's better that way easier to get back on track and all. However even at my smallest I could never fit into those tiny bras I saw on my one and only trip INTO that store. I may be able to fit their other things soon, but IDK if I want to shop at a place where apparently the quality isnt' all that and the owner is kind of mean, and possibly trying to get attention in a negative shock jock kind of way. His brand should stand on it's own, as good quality and good styling and need no explanation. It should fly off the racks if those two things are up to snuff.0
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