Jodi Arias?

Bbearhug

Death costs more than life in prison....with the death penalty, it is automatic appeal (millions have already been spent on just this trial alone, imagine what the appeals will cost) and they can put in for them over, and over, and over. While average wait on death row is only 10-12 years, but due to court appeals and with death penalty clemency hearings, death will ultimately cost more.

BUT...since I don't judge it on money, but on the person who did the killing. I originally said give her life....but after the interview she gave to the TV reporter after being found guilty of M1, I think she should fry. She showed no trace of human compassion, and actually used that time to bash TA and his family even more, and so changed my mind to death.

I was going to mention that. About the cost of the death sentence vs. life in prison. In Ohio it's 2,300,000 thousand dollars to put someone to death(cost of appeals and court costs and so on). But it only costs about 630,000 to put them away for a life sentence.

Ladyinwaiting4

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Death. Immediately, no appeals, nothing. She admitted she killed him and I do not believe her self-defense and amnesia for a moment.

why not just do any with her chance of appealing if they admit killing the person there is no need to appeal. just do it the same day they setence.

KristysLosing

I would normally be all for the death penalty...except she WANTS to die. Screw that...spend the rest of your life in prison. Why give her what she wants? I see less punishment in it, this time around.

stemmingthetide

Matters not to me.

eric_sg61

Death is the easy way out.

Tennessee2019

I think a life behind bars is far worse than death

Why should our taxes have to pay for her existence?

JJordon

Death costs more than life in prison....with the death penalty, it is automatic appeal (millions have already been spent on just this trial alone, imagine what the appeals will cost) and they can put in for them over, and over, and over. While average wait on death row is only 10-12 years, but due to court appeals and with death penalty clemency hearings, death will ultimately cost more.

BUT...since I don't judge it on money, but on the person who did the killing. I originally said give her life....but after the interview she gave to the TV reporter after being found guilty of M1, I think she should fry. She showed no trace of human compassion, and actually used that time to bash TA and his family even more, and so changed my mind to death.

I was going to mention that. About the cost of the death sentence vs. life in prison. In Ohio it's 2,300,000 thousand dollars to put someone to death(cost of appeals and court costs and so on). But it only costs about 630,000 to put them away for a life sentence.

Put an asterisk by that number you put up. You're quote fails to address inmate HEALTH ISSUES, which as you get an older, inmate, always skyrockets in costs. Did you know that Death Penalty inmates and Lifers without the possibility of parole get the same healthcare coverage and doctors must save them even if they die on the operating table? So while we keep criminals alive with cancer, or expensive heart operations or lung replacements, honest taxpayers who can't afford that get shafted.

Wrong is wrong. ANYWAY YOU SLICE IT.

Just because we've let the lawyers game us on numbers and figures? Doesn't mean MINUS ONE CRIMINAL KILLER IS JUST THAT. Don't lose sight of that number. Housing a killer, just brings a whole new set of problems and they're rarely rehabilitated. Thing is? You just don't hear about it, because DOCs around the country and world, don't showcase it.

We can bring down the cost of DP cases. But its not in the interest of the lawyers involved. Thus, the high costs. There is simply no financial incentive to shorten DP cases to a decent time frame. They draw it out for months to years. The point of justice becomes lost, another cog in the wheel of the law.

And if anyone mentions the cost of execution? Well, plenty of state officers including the National Guard, the Police, The Sheriff's Offices, etc, have sent letter campaigns in many states to bring back volunteer firing squads. Many prison officers, like where I once worked, even offered to BUY THE BULLETS THEMSELVES. Such efforts, well, they've fallen on deaf ears, too.

mlkiel

True...give her the knife , but she probably doesn't have the balls to kill herself:grumble:

TracyJo93

Death for sure. My tax money shouldn't pay to keep that poor excuse for a human being alive.

KristysLosing

I am against the death becuase where is the punishment- she should have to live and deal with it. I work in a prision however, and inmates get more rights then we have guarding them... so I would like to see her in a real jail bread/water this sucks jail not the ones we have now where they can buy tv's and play ps2's all day. grr :explode: :mad:

Yeah...that is so wrong. They should not get all this stuff that people outside might not even have. LOAD OF BULL.

toaster6

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Death. Immediately, no appeals, nothing. She admitted she killed him and I do not believe her self-defense and amnesia for a moment.

why not just do any with her chance of appealing if they admit killing the person there is no need to appeal. just do it the same day they setence.

Because there are many cases of people admitting to committing a crime even when there is solid evidence that they did not.

BinaryPulsar

The reason that a lot of people say they want the death penalty is because the case can stay in appeal for the rest of their life. They can spend the rest of their life waiting for the death penalty to take effect. And death row is the best prison to be in. Life in the general population prison is a much worse sentence.

And while we are on the subject, the reason they do not give the death penalty for rape and child abuse is because the criminal needs some kind of "incentive" not to kill the victim. If the penalty is the same they will kill the victim because then the victim can't tell. But, if death has a worse penalty they will commit the crime and not murder the victim. That is the logic behind it.

wareagle8706

i wonder if she's just saying that tho, so everyone will do the opposite of what she is wanting? idk maybe not..

I'm sure she is - such a drama queen. Why should we pay for her to live out her existence. Death penalty, definitely.

Completely agree. Just a ploy to stay in the lime light as a far as I am concerned. She wants to die, take her of suicide watch and lets see what happens. Oh and make sure she is has a DNR order.

Yep.

Jxnsmma

If found guilty, I have always believe that murders, rapists, and child molesters should automatically be put to death.

Except for how many people have spent 20 years in jail only to be found innocent and let go... cant undo death penalties. Cant exactly "undo" that much undeserved time in jail either but... death is still harder to undo.

BinaryPulsar

If found guilty, I have always believe that murders, rapists, and child molesters should automatically be put to death.

Except for how many people have spent 20 years in jail only to be found innocent and let go... cant undo death penalties. Cant exactly "undo" that much undeserved time in jail either but... death is still harder to undo.

That is also one of the reason I don't support the death penalty. And I did go through that horrendously as a child. But, I understand the flaws in the legal process (innocent people often in jail and guilty people never sent there or let out after a short sentence).

This is just how I feel about the general existence of the death penalty, but of course I know that Jody Arias is guilty of the horrendous crime that she committed.

DanceFittDiva

The death penalty. I have been following this trial every day from day 1. I'm sorry, but no one stabs someone 29 times, shots them in the head and slashes their throat from ear to ear in self defense. If someone was acting in self defense and is scared for their life, they would want to render their attacker immobile as quickly as possible and then would be trying to get away. They wouldn't stay there and just keep attacking. She murdered him in cold blood and then left him in a heap in his shower, naked.

DanceFittDiva

The reason that a lot of people say they want the death penalty is because the case can stay in appeal for the rest of their life. They can spend the rest of their life waiting for the death penalty to take effect. And death row is the best prison to be in. Life in the general population prison is a much worse sentence.

And while we are on the subject, the reason they do not give the death penalty for rape and child abuse is because the criminal needs some kind of "incentive" not to kill the victim. If the penalty is the same they will kill the victim because then the victim can't tell. But, if death has a worse penalty they will commit the crime and not murder the victim. That is the logic behind it.

Why do you think death row is the best prison to be in? If she's sentenced to that, she can only go outside her cell 3 times a week for only 2 hours each time. She will only get a shower 3 times a week. The rest of her time she'll be in a 12 ft x 7ft cell. She will only have 2-3 hours of visitation over a weekend. If she was in the general population, she would be able to go out of her cell on a DAILY basis for more than 2 hours. She would get a shower every day and it's possible that she would have longer visitation hours. She has WAY more freedom in general population and she has FRIENDS and people that like her in there. On death row, you're not able to socialize like that, so bye bye friends. So tell me, how is death row better than general population?

dunnodunno

If found guilty, I have always believe that murders, rapists, and child molesters should automatically be put to death.

Except for how many people have spent 20 years in jail only to be found innocent and let go... cant undo death penalties. Cant exactly "undo" that much undeserved time in jail either but... death is still harder to undo.

I watched a case one day on Investigation Discovery that detailed a man that was in prison for around 30+ years for a rape & murder he didn't commit. His saving grace was the lead prosecutor luckily keeping an article of clothing that had his DNA sample on with the purpose of gloating in a tell all book how they cracked the case long ago. I believe the suspect ended up being one of his neighbors.

A lot of people I would imagine falsely confess due to the long interrogation process & how it could wear on their mind after awhile. I've also seen a few cases were the cops/whomever involved went after someone basically for an open & shut case without really checking DNA, alibis, or other evidence.

An interesting case that dealt with a lot of the aforementioned things was The West Memphis 3.

eric_sg61

So tell me, how is death row better than general population?

In gen. pop you have the other inmates to deal with and they are not shiny happy people.

BinaryPulsar

So tell me, how is death row better than general population?

In gen. pop you have the other inmates to deal with and they are not shiny happy people.

Right, I mean it probably does depend on the crime that was committed. I am speaking only from what I heard from men that committed crimes that would probably result in being immediately murdered by the other inmates.

kimmie185

Hand her over to Travis's family and let them do what they see fit....
Eye for an eye type of thing.

Skratchie

In this particular case, life in prison, with photos of what she did plastered all over the walls in such a way she can't remove them.

Smackemdanno

She should be released.....in the neighborhood of the boyfriend's friends and family. And, oh by the way, the same time she is released, there is a buy one get 22 doughnuts free sale across town.

DanceFittDiva

So tell me, how is death row better than general population?

In gen. pop you have the other inmates to deal with and they are not shiny happy people.

Right, I mean it probably does depend on the crime that was committed. I am speaking only from what I heard from men that committed crimes that would probably result in being immediately murdered by the other inmates.

She's been in general population since 2008. They have said that the inmates LOVE her. They consider her a celebrity since she's on tv.

And no one's going to try and kill her... she's not a child molester or a child murderer.

BinaryPulsar

So tell me, how is death row better than general population?

In gen. pop you have the other inmates to deal with and they are not shiny happy people.

Right, I mean it probably does depend on the crime that was committed. I am speaking only from what I heard from men that committed crimes that would probably result in being immediately murdered by the other inmates.

She's been in general population since 2008. They have said that the inmates LOVE her. They consider her a celebrity since she's on tv.

And no one's going to try and kill her... she's not a child molester or a child murderer.

I don't know the specifics of how the prisoners feel about her (especially after the details of the real crime came out). I was only saying the reason that a lot of people say they want the death penalty. Which is not to say that is her reason. I was just including that. I also do not know what kind of guidance she is getting from other prisoners about what might be the best situation for her. Part of my reason for responding here was not necessarily about her case, but a follow up to times when people have posted threads on here to discuss these specific issues (which turned ugly and got deleted by the mods before a reply could be posted). Some of this discussion was about the death penalty in general. And I'm always open to learning more.

The only way I feel about her case is that I am glad she was found guilty and the sentence is not up to me.

ACepero79

This topic reminds me a movie in the 70's with Pam Grier. Watching it made it move.

Cre8veLifeR

I think life in prison since she WANTS to death penalty. In all honesty, let's bring back public hangings so we don't have to waste our tax money supporting prison sentences for psychopaths like this. I'd rather it go to education.

underwater77

Life without parole. I don't believe in the DP because I truly believe living is more punishment for people who commit heinous crimes than death.

TheCaren

u MURDER, and then u get to live the rest of your natural life (behind bars, granted) with room and board provided?
nope. taxpayer money should NOT be spent on that. can't be released back into society, shouldn't be supported by society. gotta go.

Not sure where you live (in the US or elsewhere) but in the US it costs WAY more money to house a death row inmate and pay for all the automatic appeals they are entitled to than it does to just put them away for life without parole. So if you are talking strictly about what's best financially, life without possibility of parole is far cheaper. And I am not making this statement without back up research. I did my senior project for my BS in Criminal Justice on the death penalty (presented both pro and con positions) and have done tons of research on the financial side of it.

ApocalypticFae

Life without parole. There are only a select handful of cases that I personally believe warrant the death penalty, and as horrible as her case is, it didn't make the cut.