why are crossfit facilities/ classes SO expensive?
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Most Crossfit boxes are significantly more expensive than regular gym memberships. It's partly because they have to pay such high insurance premiums because their exercise routines are so extreme and intense that a higher than normal injury rate is expected. My advice is to forget about Crossfit, It's just a fad that will pass, like all other fitness fads. If you want and can afford it, hire a personal trainer for a while to make sure you have good form in whatever you're doing -- especially if your workout involves heavy lifting, and find some fitness classes you really like and will want to attend on a regular basis.0
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Once you understand the moves and right form for whatever you're doing, one advantage of being in a larger group fitness class is that if you aren't there for every single class, you don't have to explain where you were or feel pressured to make excuses when you have to miss a class now and then..
I recently stopped going to a power yoga class because I got tired of the teacher trying to pull the "Awwwwwww, I am so glad you are back! We missed you!" guilt trip on me every time I wasn't there. And when I started, I had told her that my schedule would not permit me to attend every class.
Personally, I think the main reason she does that is to try and keep a class together so the gym won't take her class off the schedule when attendance gets low over the summer.
I just started taking her yoga class because it's at the same locally owned gym where I do a boot camp class 3 times a week. I can take yoga at the YMCA and not have to deal with her.
Your yoga instructor was friendly to you? How awful that must have been! I hope you reported that beeyotch to the club manager. She should definitely be fired0 -
I get it - I just wish there were childcare options.
Here's one of our local gyms:
Go 2 x/ week is $120/mo if you sign up for 14 months$140/ mo for 8 months, and $160/ month for 4 months
3 x/week is $140, $160 and $180 (14 months, 8 months, 4 months)
Unlimited is $155, $180, $210
It seems more suited for young singles.
Maybe I should look into a personal trainer - I just missed a sale too - darn!0 -
Most Crossfit boxes are significantly more expensive than regular gym memberships. It's partly because they have to pay such high insurance premiums because their exercise routines are so extreme and intense that a higher than normal injury rate is expected. My advice is to forget about Crossfit, It's just a fad that will pass, like all other fitness fads. If you want and can afford it, hire a personal trainer for a while to make sure you have good form in whatever you're doing -- especially if your workout involves heavy lifting, and find some fitness classes you really like and will want to attend on a regular basis.
Heath_gal is that you?
We get it. You don't like Crossfit. The OP already said she wasn't going to go anyway.
There are tons of fads that people have fun enjoying and benefit from. I don't see that as a reason not to go. I've never been to any HIIT class or other gym class that even compared to crossfit.0 -
Once you understand the moves and right form for whatever you're doing, one advantage of being in a larger group fitness class is that if you aren't there for every single class, you don't have to explain where you were or feel pressured to make excuses when you have to miss a class now and then..
I recently stopped going to a power yoga class because I got tired of the teacher trying to pull the "Awwwwwww, I am so glad you are back! We missed you!" guilt trip on me every time I wasn't there. And when I started, I had told her that my schedule would not permit me to attend every class.
Personally, I think the main reason she does that is to try and keep a class together so the gym won't take her class off the schedule when attendance gets low over the summer.
I just started taking her yoga class because it's at the same locally owned gym where I do a boot camp class 3 times a week. I can take yoga at the YMCA and not have to deal with her.
Your yoga instructor was friendly to you? How awful that must have been! I hope you reported that beeyotch to the club manager. She should definitely be fired
Since you weren't there to pick up on the attitude of the whole thing and only have typed words to go by, I will try explaining the situation again.
1. When I started taking the yoga class, I told the teacher that my schedule did not permit me to attend every class, like some people are able to do. So she knew from the get-go what the situation was.
2.When she started teaching in late winter, the class had about 15 people. At that time, she might say "I'm glad you could come" or something along that line, which was fine with me. But as time went on, the attendance dwindled down to 4 or 5 people for most classes. That's when she started making a really big deal about missing her "regulars" if they didn't show up.
3. From what I said earlier in the post, I like being in a situation where I don't have to explain why if I miss a class or two. The gym I go to has boot camp classes 2 or 3 times a day on some days, and when my schedule doesn't permit me to attend one time, I can go to the next one. After going to that gym for three or four months, I know at least a few people from all the classes, so I see familiar faces whenever I show up, and the instructors all know that my schedule is such that I am not going to be there for every single class, and they are OK with that.
I have no reason to report her to the gym, as her other regulars seem to be fine with her making a big deal out of it when the miss a class, and I can take yoga at the YMCA as part of my membership anyway.0 -
You have a planned WOD each time you go that was designed by a professional. It's like having a trainer plan each of your workouts without paying $80 a session. It can be much cheaper than a trainer for all that you receive.
If you were paying for a trainer you would be getting exercises that YOU need for your personal progressive training. There is no possible way a random list of movements sent out to the entire nation is an equivalent service.
I bet every morning you're overjoyed to see the latest horoscope that the newspaper people printed just for you. :P
My box doesn't go by the national WODs unless it's an Open. Daily WODS are compiled by the trainers who are fairly invested in the customers and know what we are looking for in a workout. So...yeah. Maybe you should actually learn a little more about CrossFit before getting all snarky.0 -
You're right. Crossfit is over priced and over rated.
My advice is to check around at your local non-Crossfit gyms and see if they offer personal training on a deal for small groups.
Or maybe the YMCA or other local gyms offer "starter" boot camp type classes where they have special instruction until you learn all the moves you need to safely participate in the training..
Oh, hello Health_Gal. So obvious.0 -
Because that's what semi personalized fitness coaching costs. Every time I see someone on the boards talk about crossfit being expensive, they are comparing it to some standard gym where you go in do whatever you want and walk out. No groups, no coaching, no expected performance levels, no training, nothing.
Having a personal trainer at your regular spot costs $50-80 per session, and at 12 sessions per month, that would run you $700+ per month, PLUS the $40 for your gym membership. So crossfit is incredibly cheap compared to 1 on 1 training.
Now lets compare small groups. Usually pilates or yoga in small groups runs $15-25 per session, so those same 12 sessions would cost you $240 per month. Circuit training, boxing, and martial arts training classes tend to fall around the same number. So crossfit, at $160-200 per month, fits right in this niche.
Apples to apples, people, apples to apples.
^This. Absolutely. We have 20 people max in our classes and 1-2 coaches who walk around and do corrections, motivations, etc.0 -
Since you weren't there to pick up on the attitude of the whole thing and only have typed words to go by, I will try explaining the situation again.
1. When I started taking the yoga class, I told the teacher that my schedule did not permit me to attend every class, like some people are able to do. So she knew from the get-go what the situation was.
2.When she started teaching in late winter, the class had about 15 people. At that time, she might say "I'm glad you could come" or something along that line, which was fine with me. But as time went on, the attendance dwindled down to 4 or 5 people for most classes. That's when she started making a really big deal about missing her "regulars" if they didn't show up.
3. From what I said earlier in the post, I like being in a situation where I don't have to explain why if I miss a class or two. The gym I go to has boot camp classes 2 or 3 times a day on some days, and when my schedule doesn't permit me to attend one time, I can go to the next one. After going to that gym for three or four months, I know at least a few people from all the classes, so I see familiar faces whenever I show up, and the instructors all know that my schedule is such that I am not going to be there for every single class, and they are OK with that.
I have no reason to report her to the gym, as her other regulars seem to be fine with her making a big deal out of it when the miss a class, and I can take yoga at the YMCA as part of my membership anyway.
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The price really isn't higher than any other small group/trainer facilitated specialty gym, or even private yoga studios. Look at corepower, or barre classes, and you'll see what I mean. It's not the same as a YMCA, and it's not priced the same because of it.
I think I'd love Crossfit, but it's just not in the cards for me.0 -
Or just out of kindness. Lol, I'm a little more blunt................."Where you been?" is usually mine, but always one on one and never in front of a class. Nothing wrong with finding out what members have been up to if the instructor hasn't seen them in awhile. What's important is that we actually notice when someone is gone instead of being just another face in the crowd.I recently stopped going to a power yoga class because I got tired of the teacher trying to pull the "Awwwwwww, I am so glad you are back! We missed you!" guilt trip on me every time I wasn't there. And when I started, I had told her that my schedule would not permit me to attend every class.
Personally, I think the main reason she does that is to try and keep a class together so the gym won't take her class off the schedule when attendance gets low over the summer.
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You're right. But the situation I'm talking about was in front of a class, and happened even if only one class was missed.0
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Someone explain to me what a box and WOD is...0
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Someone explain to me what a box and WOD is...
The box is basically the name for the gym. WOD is workout of the day.0 -
Because that much Kool-Aid ain't cheap!
Okay, I don't really have anything against CF, but this did make me chuckle :laugh:0 -
Someone explain to me what a box and WOD is...
The box is basically the name for the gym. WOD is workout of the day.
aha. thank you
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Because that much Kool-Aid ain't cheap!
Okay, I don't really have anything against CF, but this did make me chuckle :laugh:
I posted on of those memes on my husbands Facebook page about him drinking he kool aid. I only took a sip.0 -
Because that's what semi personalized fitness coaching costs. Every time I see someone on the boards talk about crossfit being expensive, they are comparing it to some standard gym where you go in do whatever you want and walk out. No groups, no coaching, no expected performance levels, no training, nothing.
Having a personal trainer at your regular spot costs $50-80 per session, and at 12 sessions per month, that would run you $700+ per month, PLUS the $40 for your gym membership. So crossfit is incredibly cheap compared to 1 on 1 training.
Now lets compare small groups. Usually pilates or yoga in small groups runs $15-25 per session, so those same 12 sessions would cost you $240 per month. Circuit training, boxing, and martial arts training classes tend to fall around the same number. So crossfit, at $160-200 per month, fits right in this niche.
Apples to apples, people, apples to apples.
Thank you.
I'm not at a typical "box," but it runs me about $118 a month to go three times per week. It's a bargain for the results I'm enjoying. I dropped my gym membership last month because I was never there anymore... I actually prefer Crossfit to anything going on at a regular gym.
Also, regarding bashing Crossfit: [insert tired old "beating a dead horse" gif here].0 -
Most Crossfit boxes are significantly more expensive than regular gym memberships. It's partly because they have to pay such high insurance premiums because their exercise routines are so extreme and intense that a higher than normal injury rate is expected. My advice is to forget about Crossfit, It's just a fad that will pass, like all other fitness fads. If you want and can afford it, hire a personal trainer for a while to make sure you have good form in whatever you're doing -- especially if your workout involves heavy lifting, and find some fitness classes you really like and will want to attend on a regular basis.
Heath_gal is that you?
Ha ha - my thoughts too!0 -
One of my favorite parts of this thread is the constant quoting of how much the liability insurance must be. I mean, people are totally pulling this out of their behinds. They have no idea what gym liability runs and what circumstances would increase premiums. They a manufacturing and entire alternate reality based on the insurance premiums in their heads0
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One of my favorite parts of this thread is the constant quoting of how much the liability insurance must be. I mean, people are totally pulling this out of their behinds. They have no idea what gym liability runs and what circumstances would increase premiums. They are manufacturing an entire alternate reality based on the insurance premiums in their heads.
And not surprisingly, the insurance premiums in their heads are rather bulky.0 -
Apples to apples works only if the trainer has the same background. For 30 bucks an hour I get a trainer at my gym who has a degree in kinesthesiology. At CrossFit I might get a trainer who took a weekend seminar course. Of course I realize that there likely some great trainers with CrossFit but I would check out credentials prior to joining. Overall, it seems that the CrossFit brand has had some issues with quality control.0
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Apples to apples works only if the trainer has the same background. For 30 bucks an hour I get a trainer at my gym who has a degree in kinesthesiology. At CrossFit I might get a trainer who took a weekend seminar course. Of course I realize that there likely some great trainers with CrossFit but I would check out credentials prior to joining. Overall, it seems that the CrossFit brand has had some issues with quality control.
$30 an hour for personal training is a good price, and one that you will not find ANYWHERE in the Boston area, period, and if you do, the person probably "took a weekend seminar course."
If you do your research, you'll see that not only are there plenty of "great trainers with CrossFit" but that many of them were personal trainers long before they were CrossFit certified. My trainer has been in the business for 16+ years. She has the highest national certifications you can get as a personal trainer, and I have trained with her on and off over the last 8 years.
CrossFit has had issues with quality control the same way that any other brand has, like Pilates (which actually was a brand before they lost it in court). It would be foolish to think that all locations are equal. They aren't, any more than any other type of gym would be (kickboxing, MMA, boxing, etc.). They are not cookie cutter locations, despite the way it may appear to people on the outside.
Bottom line is that the vast majority of the people bashing Crossfit have never even set foot in a Crossfit location, and the reasons can almost always be boiled down to the following: lack of money, lack of guts, or both.0 -
Basically personal training, workouts planned for you, motivation, wodify (digital tracking of progress), nutrition advice, a great community, and a ton of fun - all rolled into one. I know I never worked out as hard, and never went as much, and never saw such great results at a regular gym. Worth every penny for me!!!!0
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The national Crossfit organization is to blame for the bulk of the quality control issues for choosing to certify weekend seminar participants with no other certifications as trainers.
it is not correct to assume the reasons one might not set foot in a Crossfit gym "can almost always be boiled down to the following: lack of money, lack of guts, or both." That kind of Crossfit snob, "Crossfit is better than anything you could ever do" attitude is the cause of much of the anti-Crossfit backlash we see these days.
Yes, Crossfit is more expensive than many gyms. But even if money was no object, if the type of program they offer isn't what I want, why would I want to pay premium dollar for it? Crossfit is only one option in a world of fitness classes. The type of training they offer certainly isn't everyone's cup of tea. In my area, I can have unlimited membership at two locally owned gym for less than what it would cost for an unlimited membership at Crossfit and have plenty of workout variety to keep me busy, interested, and coming back.0 -
Basically personal training, workouts planned for you, motivation, wodify (digital tracking of progress), nutrition advice, a great community, and a ton of fun - all rolled into one. I know I never worked out as hard, and never went as much, and never saw such great results at a regular gym. Worth every penny for me!!!!
I'm glad you chimed in because you just reminded me of something.
NEVER before in my life at any other gym, in any other type of class, has any other participant ever given me a pep talk, cheered me on, commented on my progress, or said at the end of it "wow, you killed it today." These things happen on a daily basis where I am now. The sense of community is incomparable.
I've heard people say it's competitive. Maybe at some places that is the focus. Where I am, you are bettering yourself, setting personal records, working on your own goals. You're damn right I'm competing -- against the old me. And I'm winning.
To me, the spirit of it is much like the spirit of my friends list here on MFP. And since I can't work out with all my friends here, it's the next best thing.0 -
All fads are expensive to start with. Eventually this too shall pass and it will be replaced by another new expensive fitness fad.
People like me don't have to worry about those expensive fads. They all seem to involve a lot of joint impact that I can't tolerate. Whether it is XF, PX90, Insanity. Whatever.
I should "invent" a fitness plan for people like me and then charge a crap load of money for it :bigsmile:0 -
Basically personal training, workouts planned for you, motivation, wodify (digital tracking of progress), nutrition advice, a great community, and a ton of fun - all rolled into one. I know I never worked out as hard, and never went as much, and never saw such great results at a regular gym. Worth every penny for me!!!!
I'm glad you chimed in because you just reminded me of something.
NEVER before in my life at any other gym, in any other type of class, has any other participant ever given me a pep talk, cheered me on, commented on my progress, or said at the end of it "wow, you killed it today." These things happen on a daily basis where I am now. The sense of community is incomparable.
I've heard people say it's competitive. Maybe at some places that is the focus. Where I am, you are bettering yourself, setting personal records, working on your own goals. You're damn right I'm competing -- against the old me. And I'm winning.
To me, the spirit of it is much like the spirit of my friends list here on MFP. And since I can't work out with all my friends here, it's the next best thing.
That happens at the boot camp class I go to all the time. And it's not a Crossfit.0 -
it is not correct to assume the reasons one might not set foot in a Crossfit gym "can almost always be boiled down to the following: lack of money, lack of guts, or both." That kind of Crossfit snob, "Crossfit is better than anything you could ever do" attitude is the cause of much of the anti-Crossfit backlash we see these days.
It is also not correct to assume that I feel that Crossfit is better than anything you could ever do, since that is not the case.
It is also not correct to say that I was referring to everyone who has not set foot in a Crossfit gym. I specifically referred to the people who BASH Crossfit... most of them have never even tried it. Do you think it's fair to bash something you aren't willing to even try, thereby making other people less likely to try it, when it might be just what they need?
Lastly, perhaps you are in the minority. If so, mazeltov. It doesn't invalidate what I said, and you trying to label me a snob when you don't even know me is just laughable.0 -
It is like getting group personal training. Much cheaper than a gym membership and then a personal trainer. I find that it is definitely a much better workout then when I work out alone. I agree that the times of the "classes" kind of stink and the lack of child care stinks. I had my first crossfit class last night (bought a groupon to try it out) and there were seven people and two trainers there, could be up to twelve people. I got personal attention to make sure my form was correct and it was an awesome workout.0
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