If you saw a ten year old girl with an iPhone....
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It's evident to the content consumers that the age of charging for content is almost completely dead. Hardly anyone pays to own music anymore and owning movies is also a dying breed. Media content is going the way of a monthly access fee for all you can view,listen/read like Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Instant Video, Spotify, Pandora, etc.So I'd put my blood, sweat and tears into a story, then put it up online. One person would pay for the download, then distribute it illegally making sure I never see another dime. Thanks a bunch, internet. :sick:
They don't call them "starving artists" for no reason...0 -
You are joking with this, right?Oh boy, a plate. Now I can eat on R.A. Salvatore's signature plate.
Yes. Sorry, I forgot the joke font. :laugh:I used to write fantasy but my professors kinda beat that outta me (except for Sci fi lit prof, he loved it).
Wait, what? Why on earth would a professor do something like that?
Not physically beat it out of me. But pretty much turned their noses up at the genre and would fail most of the students who tried turning something in of that theme. Basically, fantasy isn't for real writers.
LOL! I knew you didn't mean physically beat it out of you.
See, I think that's just wrong that they would do something like that. I have not gone to school for writing, it's just something that I do in my spare time but if anyone told me that what I write isn't for "real" writers, I'd tell them where to go.
Just clarifying.
Yup, some profs would encourage students to switch majors if they thought the Twilight series were an example of good literature. Most of those students would flunk out on their own so that saved them the trouble. Sci fi lit was the ONLY class that had good things to say about fantasy.0 -
B*tching out a 10 year old for something her parents bought her. Yeah that sounds like the appropriate response to something a stranger is doing that doesn't affect your life in any way0
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I say forget 'em. If you as a parent feel your child is mature enough for a phone then so be it.
I would suggest certain limits or restrictions though as friendly advice.
Restricted calling times
Restricted internet maybe
Really depends how she handles the responsibility really.
I do not believe in ever overstepping my boundaries on another person's children unless they are out of control or it is an emergency situation.
This is not one of those times so I find it uncalled for.
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No judging here.
My daughter has had a phone since she was 9 and now has a smart phone at 11.
She lives with me for 2 months out of the year, but is on the other side of the country the rest of the time. By her having a phone (I provided) she has a 24 hour direct hotline to me when she needs or wants me.
There is often valid reasoning behind absurd things.0 -
. The only time it would be appropriate for someone to do that was if you were abusing your kid (I have seen strangers yell at parents for hitting their kids in public and that is awesome sauce).
Are you talking full out beating the kid in public or just a whack?
If it's just a whack then I disagree with you. It is never appropriate to voice your opinion on what a parent is doing to their child regardless if it's a smack on the rear or their talking on a cell phone. You don't know what has happened during the day that drove the parent to finally whack the unruly child. There are too many people like you out there who find it necessary to tell a parent that they can't smack their own child and that is why we end up with kids who act out in public, swear at their parents, smack their parents in the face etc. etc. because people tell them it's wrong to hit their kids or show any sort of discipline be it in public or in the safety of their own home. Yes there are blatant cases of child abuse out there I know and yes when a child is constantly bruised and battered something should be done but a whack on the butt or where ever because the kid is being an unruly f*cker in public is none of your business.0 -
It's evident to the content consumers that the age of charging for content is almost completely dead. Hardly anyone pays to own music anymore and owning movies is also a dying breed. Media content is going the way of a monthly access fee for all you can view,listen/read like Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Instant Video, Spotify, Pandora, etc.So I'd put my blood, sweat and tears into a story, then put it up online. One person would pay for the download, then distribute it illegally making sure I never see another dime. Thanks a bunch, internet. :sick:
They don't call them "starving artists" for no reason...
Pretty much. Had I known this in third grade when I decided I wanted to write, I would have nurtured more profitable skills. Too bad I suck at math. Glad to know I got a bachelor's degree only to work in a warehouse and know that my dreams will never be realized. Thanks a lot technology. Making dreams for some, killing the dreams of others. As usual, it's the arts that suffer. 0 -
My daugher has an Iphone, she is 11. She had a blackberry when she was 10.
I like my children to have phones so they can call me if they are at friends, parties or sleepovers wheras they are not dependent on someone else to "LET" them call home.
Phones today are the walkie talkies and CB radios from when I was a kid. It may seem like a big deal because we didnt grow up with cellphones. Im ok with embracing what technology offers today.
Why shouldnt they have a phone?0 -
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My first thought...only people with jobs should own iPhones. No way in God's green earth I'd get my child such an expensive phone. Cell phone at 10, possibly, but definitely not an iPhone. A kid doesn't need that many bells and whistles to stay in communication. Of course I wouldn't say anything to the child, that is silly. But yep I'd be a Judgey McJudgerson in my head and think it was way too much for a kid. But then who knows? Hit me back in 4 years when my kid is 10...0 -
My 10 year old step son has a phone, he goes out with his friends (to the local park which is just across the road) and we know we can conact him or him us if needs be. I honestly don't see a problem with it,
Whats the difference between an iphone and any other smart phone?0 -
That's your opinion.. The only time it would be appropriate for someone to do that was if you were abusing your kid (I have seen strangers yell at parents for hitting their kids in public and that is awesome sauce).
Are you talking full out beating the kid in public or just a whack?
If it's just a whack then I disagree with you. It is never appropriate to voice your opinion on what a parent is doing to their child regardless if it's a smack on the rear or their talking on a cell phone. You don't know what has happened during the day that drove the parent to finally whack the unruly child. There are too many people like you out there who find it necessary to tell a parent that they can't smack their own child and that is why we end up with kids who act out in public, swear at their parents, smack their parents in the face etc. etc. because people tell them it's wrong to hit their kids or show any sort of discipline be it in public or in the safety of their own home. Yes there are blatant cases of child abuse out there I know and yes when a child is constantly bruised and battered something should be done but a whack on the butt or where ever because the kid is being an unruly f*cker in public is none of your business.0 -
Um... I think the person's objection was to the smart phone, not the brand.My 10 year old step son has a phone, he goes out with his friends (to the local park which is just across the road) and we know we can conact him or him us if needs be. I honestly don't see a problem with it,
Whats the difference between an iphone and any other smart phone?0 -
Well anyone who thinks the Twilight Series is an example of good literature needs a smack in the head!
You are joking with this, right?Oh boy, a plate. Now I can eat on R.A. Salvatore's signature plate.
Yes. Sorry, I forgot the joke font. :laugh:I used to write fantasy but my professors kinda beat that outta me (except for Sci fi lit prof, he loved it).
Wait, what? Why on earth would a professor do something like that?
Not physically beat it out of me. But pretty much turned their noses up at the genre and would fail most of the students who tried turning something in of that theme. Basically, fantasy isn't for real writers.
LOL! I knew you didn't mean physically beat it out of you.
See, I think that's just wrong that they would do something like that. I have not gone to school for writing, it's just something that I do in my spare time but if anyone told me that what I write isn't for "real" writers, I'd tell them where to go.
Just clarifying.
Yup, some profs would encourage students to switch majors if they thought the Twilight series were an example of good literature. Most of those students would flunk out on their own so that saved them the trouble. Sci fi lit was the ONLY class that had good things to say about fantasy.0 -
I would once again thank all the gods I've ever heard of that I don't have kids and walk away.0
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No reply to the child.. In my mind I would think must be nice I dont even have a data plan LOL.. But to each their own, you buy it pay for it I dont so none of my business. Just as I choose to not have a data plan you can choose to...0
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yeah, not my business either-- but I may be jealous if it's a 5 and all I have is a 4 :happy:0
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That's your opinion.. The only time it would be appropriate for someone to do that was if you were abusing your kid (I have seen strangers yell at parents for hitting their kids in public and that is awesome sauce).
Are you talking full out beating the kid in public or just a whack?
If it's just a whack then I disagree with you. It is never appropriate to voice your opinion on what a parent is doing to their child regardless if it's a smack on the rear or their talking on a cell phone. You don't know what has happened during the day that drove the parent to finally whack the unruly child. There are too many people like you out there who find it necessary to tell a parent that they can't smack their own child and that is why we end up with kids who act out in public, swear at their parents, smack their parents in the face etc. etc. because people tell them it's wrong to hit their kids or show any sort of discipline be it in public or in the safety of their own home. Yes there are blatant cases of child abuse out there I know and yes when a child is constantly bruised and battered something should be done but a whack on the butt or where ever because the kid is being an unruly f*cker in public is none of your business.
Thank you for clarifying the fact that what I posted was my opinion. I thought that the fact that I said "I disagree" sort of stated it but now that you pointed it out everyone is clear.
Perhaps I should have added "That's just MY opinion" at the end.
Thanks again!:flowerforyou:0 -
I think its unwise not to give a child a phone , they can contact you if they have a problem , you can contact them if you are worried about them. Its not like it used to be when I was 10, 39 years ago . I have always given my kids the best phone I could afford
so they didn't get a hard time for using a crappy old nokia that was cool 15 years ago.0 -
I know tons of adults that don't have smart phones. I don't have a smart phone. I'm an adult with a full time job that is in another town. And a lot of the adults that HAVE smart phones (or even a cell phone for that matter) hate their phones and would NOT have a cell at all if they could avoid it. The only reason they have one is because they're farmers and are often in the middle of nowhere and need to be able to contact somebody if they break down in the middle of the field.
i guess ive made some assumptions that are not true.. i guess it comes from the fact the people im talking about all work in offices and need those phones as part of their job and it just bleeds over into their life. but if you have a job, like the farmer you mentioned, that doesnt need the smart phone capabilities there would be reason for them to not have one at all.
But there's also A LOT of people who DON'T work in offices. And even a lot of people who work in offices that don't have smartphones. I guess it also depends if you live in a VERY VERY urban area. Even in the city in my province there's still probably ton of people who don't have smartphones.
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On another note, the idea that your children have to learn technology to get by in life...that's stupid. Doesn't mean they need all that technology at the age of ten. I didn't. I have done PERFECTLY fine learning technology as I got older.
And also about books....I HATE e-books and that crap. It would be nice to save all the space that I use for real books but I LOVE reading but only when it's a REAL paper book. I don't even like reading books online.0 -
I'm sorry that you missed the point of my comment.Thank you for clarifying the fact that what I posted was my opinion. I thought that the fact that I said "I disagree" sort of stated it but now that you pointed it out everyone is clear.
Perhaps I should have added "That's just MY opinion" at the end.
Thanks again!0 -
I was born long before iPhones and home computers and I've never played kick the can. What is this, 1950?I think it is sad that kids rather play on iphones, ipads, nintendo, etc than be outside playing a game of kick the can, or capture the flag.
I love playing capture the flag!0 -
I'm of a mixed mind about this.
- I don't buy into all of the "dangers" our children face that are new. They were around when we were kids too and we found ways to survive.
Not all of us survived that. There were children in this area who went missing and I'm sure if they had had phones the threat of being able to call the police right then and there would have scared off some predators. Just like a few years ago when it happened in a very wealthy neighborhood. Little girl pulled out her phone and yelled "Emergency" into it and the guy ran off but not before she was able to get a photo of his face and car with the phone.
- Times are changing though. When I was a kid at basketball practice I always had to make sure I had a quarter, then a quarter and a dime, to use the payphone to call my parents. I can't imagine the school I went to still has that payphone. Maybe they do though, however I have no idea how much money it costs to use a payphone.
lol I use to call collect and yell into the phone at the state your name part, "Mom! It's me! Practice is over early so pick us up!!!!"0 -
Well anyone who thinks the Twilight Series is an example of good literature needs a smack in the head!
You are joking with this, right?Oh boy, a plate. Now I can eat on R.A. Salvatore's signature plate.
Yes. Sorry, I forgot the joke font. :laugh:I used to write fantasy but my professors kinda beat that outta me (except for Sci fi lit prof, he loved it).
Wait, what? Why on earth would a professor do something like that?
Not physically beat it out of me. But pretty much turned their noses up at the genre and would fail most of the students who tried turning something in of that theme. Basically, fantasy isn't for real writers.
LOL! I knew you didn't mean physically beat it out of you.
See, I think that's just wrong that they would do something like that. I have not gone to school for writing, it's just something that I do in my spare time but if anyone told me that what I write isn't for "real" writers, I'd tell them where to go.
Just clarifying.
Yup, some profs would encourage students to switch majors if they thought the Twilight series were an example of good literature. Most of those students would flunk out on their own so that saved them the trouble. Sci fi lit was the ONLY class that had good things to say about fantasy.
Unless they're like a kid then they don't know better. If you're out of your teens and still think it's good lit, you haven't read much. >.<0 -
The kids get a false sense of security with a phone plus they can always call Mommy to save them.
So what you're saying is that if the kid is kidnapped and the person doesn't know they have a cell phone that they shouldn't "call mommy" to come save them? Or if their friends decide to go off and do something else and they don't want to then they shouldn't "call mommy" to save them, that they should just go with the pack regardless of how they feel or if it's wrong?
Or if they are out being kids and someone falls and breaks something or playing in the woods and happens trip over a rabbit hole and break their ankle (me!) they should figure it out themselves? Yeah...I screamed for an hour before I was just numb enough to start dragging myself out of the woods. I wish I had a cell phone back then!
I think it's awesome so many things can just be documented. How many fights have been caught on camera? How many bad acts have been caught and police able to use it?0 -
People barely read anymore as it is or if they are, it's ****ty books like Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey. I'm not even writing at the moment, I'm just working to pay off the degree that says I know how. I say useless as no one seems to give a **** about books unless a movie gets made for it first..
What a crock. My husband reads financial books -- REAL books, not the kindle stuff and I read other fiction books. While I have the kindle app on my iPad I download books when it's something that I want to read right NOW and don't really feel like waiting the week for it to arrive. If I can wait then I'll get a regular book. I also love to browse the shelves at book stores and can spend hours there just looking. I don't think books are going to be obsolete because most authors are old school and won't go that way. Those who do are self published because it's easier and cheaper to go the ebook route. Believe me if when it comes time for me to publish my novel if I run into enough of "no's" I am going to seriously consider the ebook self publishing route to get my stuff out there.
What is it that you write or will be writing?
I think schools having ebooks is fantastic. I mean, they say as soon as a textbook is printed, it's already outdated. So I can see it being good for schools.
I have 5 giant bookshelves with books and some of them are very outdated. There are science books that are basically fiction now. I do love the covers though and nothing will ever beat the real smell of a book. I think there just needs to be a balance.0 -
I was born long before iPhones and home computers and I've never played kick the can. What is this, 1950?I think it is sad that kids rather play on iphones, ipads, nintendo, etc than be outside playing a game of kick the can, or capture the flag.
I think the point is that now days kids just sit inside on their butts watching tv, playing computer games or play station. No one goes outside to play any more which is probably why kids are so obese.
But whose fault is that? Who let's them sit on their butt playing video/computer games, watching TV, and not making them go outside?0 -
Was probably just playing a game on his/her parent's phone.....
Nunyabusiness!0 -
My daughter of 11 has my ld iPhone, i like the piece of mind knowing I can contact her or she can contact me , or any of her friends who also have phones, anytime.
I also use the find my phone feature of the iPhone, it transmits the gps co-ordintates of where she is to my iphone and show me on a map where she is, if she's out with her friends, I know then she is where she says she is.
She's very responsible and loves that it plays music and games as well.
we are both happy she has an iPhone.
Wish I had one when i was young.
As for taking pictures, I can see what pictures she is taking using photo stream .
A great tool for keeping your kids safe , and giving them freedom , makes them feel grown up and responsible, provides them with entertainment when bored and helps her to quickly get to grips with the new technology that will be more important when she grows up than it was when i was, as an engineer, i am keen to use smartphone and ipad technologies in my business to create a more efficient and more responsive company.
give them the knowledge and tools for the future, IMO.0 -
I would say..... WOW! The kids theses days have such a advantage in technology... Unlike when I was 10. I would say congrats, you must have some nice parents, parents who do want you to learn the latest technology. Little girl, you will have a advantage over the kids that are held back from learning this technology, because their parents are not allowing it... But if you get lost little girl, or someone trys to make you a victim... at least you have the means to be tracked, and call for help... : ) Thats always good.0
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Shouldn't ten year old girls be playing barbies or something instead. :huh:
Sigh.. kids should be kids.0
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