Why Do YOU Eat Low Carb?

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  • skpstone
    skpstone Posts: 26 Member
    Sugar is toxic

    Oxygen is toxic. Too much of it will kill you. You should totally give it up before it's too late.

    I go low carb because i have noticed that when i do eat things like bread and pasta my weight increases drastically when compared to a limited carb intake day. I'm one of those 'weigh religiously every day at the same time' type of people.
    I dont need scientific papers or research or fitness experts to tell me this, its just the truth. I see it every day when i step on the scale. Between January and April this year i lost about 44lbs by eating better (mostly cutting carbs and eating more protein) and exercizing (riding about 100 miles a week). Again this worked for me but may not work the same for anyone else.

    My advice to everyone here is experiment... find what works for you and stick to it... You cant 'win' this post arguing about what is the better way to go, because everyone is different and what works for one person wont neccesarily work for someone else.

    My 2 cents :)
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    So, after reading through all of this, and the effect low carb diets have had on people, I think what is really happening is people are eliminating food sensitivities they have, and thus losing weight, no more migraines, bloating, upset stomach, better sleep, more energy, etc.,etc.,etc. All of the above are symptoms of food allergies (which I suffer from all of them, including Meniere Syndrome symptoms, among others). The most common food intolerance's: Wheat, gluten, white rice, potatoes, and various other grains. What do all of these foods have in common? Our ancestors didn't eat them.

    So I'm not buying this 20g of carbs a day thing. We require carbs to function at 100%. All everyone is experiencing is the elimination of foods their bodies can digest. They've just cut out a whack load of other foods as well.

    As for the "our biology is designed to store it when we come across it," I'm sorry, but you're full of crap. Our ancestors were NOT carnivores. They were omnivores, leaning more towards herbivores. How often do you see a group of chimps chasing down a gazelle and ripping it's carcass into itty bitty pieces and swallowing them? Granted, they don't eat a lot of grains, because they're not readily available. 90% of their diet comes from fruit and veggies.

    So you deduced that its the reduction of grains but not necessarily carbs that have possibly benefited people and that Paleo is the way to go after reading some responses - amazing logical reasoning there. Not really biased thinking on your part!

    ETA: I do not do low carb as I cannot see the point - but the reasoning is failing me here.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member


    You're making things up again

    Eaton et al. Paleolithic nutrition revisited: A twelve-year retrospective on its nature and implications. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (1997) 51, 207±216

    http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/EvolutionPaleolithic/Eaton Paleo Nutri Review EJCN.pdf

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit#Diet

    " The typical Inuit diet is high in protein and very high in fat – in their traditional diets, Inuit consumed an average of 75% of their daily energy intake from fat.[33]"

    "In the 1920s anthropologist Vilhjalmur Stefansson lived with and studied a group of Inuit.[39] The study focused on the fact that the Inuit's extremely low-carbohydrate diet had no adverse effects on their health, nor indeed, Stefansson's own health. "

    Clearly made up (sarcastic). I'm not perfect in referencing everything from memory, but being an *kitten* about it doesn't help.

    In order to prove something to be 100% true, you have to explain the exception. I'm not saying we need to be 100% devoid of carbs.

    What do the Inuit have to do with our ancestors? So yes your statement was made up if you're only reference to back it up is Wikipedia and one that has nothing to do with our ancestors
  • robynlynn815
    robynlynn815 Posts: 26 Member
    Whenever the words "low" and "carb" are used in the same sentence, pages of arguments are sure to follow.
    /yawn :ohwell: Do what works for you and be happy about it. :happy:
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
    I eat low carb because carbs are not the primary source of fuel for me.

    I have adapted to primarily burn my fat stores for energy.

    And call me crazy but if you want to lose fat then this seems like a Good Thing.

    Now, excuse me, but in my clearly energy-depleted state I have a shedload of mowing to do.

    If I don't make it to end without a slice of bread then I'll be sure to let you know ;)
  • clobercow
    clobercow Posts: 337 Member


    You're making things up again

    Eaton et al. Paleolithic nutrition revisited: A twelve-year retrospective on its nature and implications. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (1997) 51, 207±216

    http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/EvolutionPaleolithic/Eaton Paleo Nutri Review EJCN.pdf

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit#Diet

    " The typical Inuit diet is high in protein and very high in fat – in their traditional diets, Inuit consumed an average of 75% of their daily energy intake from fat.[33]"

    "In the 1920s anthropologist Vilhjalmur Stefansson lived with and studied a group of Inuit.[39] The study focused on the fact that the Inuit's extremely low-carbohydrate diet had no adverse effects on their health, nor indeed, Stefansson's own health. "

    Clearly made up (sarcastic). I'm not perfect in referencing everything from memory, but being an *kitten* about it doesn't help.

    In order to prove something to be 100% true, you have to explain the exception. I'm not saying we need to be 100% devoid of carbs.

    What do the Inuit have to do with our ancestors? So yes your statement was made up if you're only reference to back it up is Wikipedia and one that has nothing to do with our ancestors

    Yep totally made up. (by accident, you know, I'm not perfect)

    You got me!

    Congratulations! You found something that wasn't 100% correct. DAMN! I guess everything else I said was a lie.

    Some one, please report me for fear mongering and making up lies!

    Ohh dear, I'm going to get banned and my credibility is 100% lost.



    I'm not here to poke and point and say people are wrong. I'm here to learn and have conversations were people exchange facts.
    I see success everywhere with people eating moderate carb. No were did I say people won't have success or it's wrong. I just found that low carb works for me and I stated my reasons. Ether accept it, or don't.

    I'll take a phrase from one of my favorite youtube channels Twin Muscle Workout, "DO WHAT EVER THE **** YOU WANT TO DO!"

    I'm going to eat my chicken Alfredo minus the noodles and a spinach salad.


    I'm done with this thread. I'll respond to PM's here on out.
  • Marll
    Marll Posts: 904 Member
    It's easy, I feel better, and loose weight on low carb. I enjoy the food, all the rich fats, sauces, meats vegtables and some fruits.

    I'd much rather eat a steak with mushroom-bacon cream sauce than bread any day, and I'll still take in less carbs. I feel that once you get over the initial carb flu, my workouts are stronger, and I've gained a lot of muscle over the last year. My endurance is better too and can workout easily 25% longer than I did a year ago without killing myself.

    Long story short, eating grains and white carbs make me feel like ****, eliminating them makes me feel better. I eat a ton of vegtables of all varieties and don't feel deprived at all. I do not miss pasta in the least, nor sugar.
  • robynlynn815
    robynlynn815 Posts: 26 Member
    I'm going to eat my chicken Alfredo minus the noodles and a spinach salad.


    No way...you can't have alfredo with out the noodles!! Thin zucchini strips my friend ;)
  • Marll
    Marll Posts: 904 Member
    I'm going to eat my chicken Alfredo minus the noodles and a spinach salad.


    No way...you can't have alfredo with out the noodles!! Thin zucchini strips my friend ;)

    Zucchini strips or spaghetti squash!
  • wewon
    wewon Posts: 838 Member
    I tried losing weight for the longest, exercised like a mad man and even ran 2 half marathons and my weight stalled eventhough I was in a caloric deficit (I know, he's a liar right?).

    I switched to low carb and the plateau finally ended and my caloric deficit is the same as before. Can I argue about studies and the value of a calorie? All I can say is that its working for me and that's all that matters.

    Now by 'low carb' I mean I get about 25% of my calories from carbs (<150 grams/day) and I keep it at whole fruits and veggies, no sodas, juice, cereal, white potatoes, etc.

    And I accomplished this without a personal hatred of Gary Taubes or Dr. Lutsig LOL!
  • knk1553
    knk1553 Posts: 438 Member


    You're making things up again

    Eaton et al. Paleolithic nutrition revisited: A twelve-year retrospective on its nature and implications. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (1997) 51, 207±216

    http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/EvolutionPaleolithic/Eaton Paleo Nutri Review EJCN.pdf

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit#Diet

    " The typical Inuit diet is high in protein and very high in fat – in their traditional diets, Inuit consumed an average of 75% of their daily energy intake from fat.[33]"

    "In the 1920s anthropologist Vilhjalmur Stefansson lived with and studied a group of Inuit.[39] The study focused on the fact that the Inuit's extremely low-carbohydrate diet had no adverse effects on their health, nor indeed, Stefansson's own health. "

    Clearly made up (sarcastic). I'm not perfect in referencing everything from memory, but being an *kitten* about it doesn't help.

    In order to prove something to be 100% true, you have to explain the exception. I'm not saying we need to be 100% devoid of carbs.

    Please do not EVER use wikipedia as reliable source for anything....yes, it can be a source that you can use to access other resources (i.e. go find and READ the scholarly articles that so called information is from) but don't use wikipedia as a "source", just makes you look bad and makes your facts less credible or lose any credit at all.

    I have no clue what ya'll are arguing over, just pointing out that wikipedia isn't helping your case in any way shape or form.
  • ipag
    ipag Posts: 137
    Is dietary carbohydrate essential for human nutrition?

    http://www.ajcn.org/content/75/5/951.2.full
  • Marll
    Marll Posts: 904 Member
    I tried losing weight for the longest, exercised like a mad man and even ran 2 half marathons and my weight stalled eventhough I was in a caloric deficit (I know, he's a liar right?).

    I switched to low carb and the plateau finally ended and my caloric deficit is the same as before. Can I argue about studies and the value of a calorie? All I can say is that its working for me and that's all that matters.

    Now by 'low carb' I mean I get about 25% of my calories from carbs (<150 grams/day) and I keep it at whole fruits and veggies, no sodas, juice, cereal, white potatoes, etc.

    And I accomplished this without a personal hatred of Gary Taubes or Dr. Lutsig LOL!

    OMG, you are such a liar! There is NO WAY that you lost weight with the same caloric deficit where you were stuck before!
    :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    The reason why the Inuit arguement isn't a valid one is because it took them milleniums to develop a digestive system that can withstand such a diet. Back when we "invaded" North America, and people from the South started moving up north where the Inuit lived, they only lived a few years because they could not survive on the Inuit diet. they didn't get the nutrients their bodies needed because they couldn't digest the food properly.

    Anyway, I'm leaving this thread. People are starting to blow it way out of context. Not once did I mention anything about the Paleo diet, nor did I say you NEEDED to eat high carbohydrates. I simply came to my own conclusion from my own knowledge, experience, and from what people have written on here. It's apparent to me that people are simply experiencing the results of going to a hypo-allergenic diet, not from eating low carbohydrates. I experienced the exact same thing everyone on here is describing, yet I was still eating a relatively high carbohydrate diet.

    All you people are doing now is acting childish. I don't care whether or not you'll eat your bread, and guess what: That zucchini you're having with your pasta sauce are a source of carbs.

    “Do not have an opinion while you listen because frankly, your opinion doesn't hold much water outside of Your Universe. Just listen. Listen until their brain has been twisted like a dripping towel and what they have to say is all over the floor.”
    ― Hugh Elliot
  • wewon
    wewon Posts: 838 Member
    The reason why the Inuit arguement isn't a valid one is because it took them milleniums to develop a digestive system that can withstand such a diet. Back when we "invaded" North America, and people from the South started moving up north where the Inuit lived, they only lived a few years because they could not survive on the Inuit diet. they didn't get the nutrients their bodies needed because they couldn't digest the food properly.

    Anyway, I'm leaving this thread. People are starting to blow it way out of context. Not once did I mention anything about the Paleo diet, nor did I say you NEEDED to eat high carbohydrates. I simply came to my own conclusion from my own knowledge, experience, and from what people have written on here. It's apparent to me that people are simply experiencing the results of going to a hypo-allergenic diet, not from eating low carbohydrates. I experienced the exact same thing everyone on here is describing, yet I was still eating a relatively high carbohydrate diet.

    All you people are doing now is acting childish. I don't care whether or not you'll eat your bread, and guess what: That zucchini you're having with your pasta sauce are a source of carbs.

    “Do not have an opinion while you listen because frankly, your opinion doesn't hold much water outside of Your Universe. Just listen. Listen until their brain has been twisted like a dripping towel and what they have to say is all over the floor.”
    ― Hugh Elliot

    Hey!

    If you're going to storm off home can you at least leave the ball here?
  • taylor5877
    taylor5877 Posts: 1,792 Member
    Who do I sue for time wasted making a serious reply to this thread?

    Anybody want to jump on board for a class action?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    The reason why the Inuit arguement isn't a valid one is because it took them milleniums to develop a digestive system that can withstand such a diet. Back when we "invaded" North America, and people from the South started moving up north where the Inuit lived, they only lived a few years because they could not survive on the Inuit diet. they didn't get the nutrients their bodies needed because they couldn't digest the food properly.

    Anyway, I'm leaving this thread. People are starting to blow it way out of context. Not once did I mention anything about the Paleo diet, nor did I say you NEEDED to eat high carbohydrates. I simply came to my own conclusion from my own knowledge, experience, and from what people have written on here. It's apparent to me that people are simply experiencing the results of going to a hypo-allergenic diet, not from eating low carbohydrates. I experienced the exact same thing everyone on here is describing, yet I was still eating a relatively high carbohydrate diet.

    All you people are doing now is acting childish. I don't care whether or not you'll eat your bread, and guess what: That zucchini you're having with your pasta sauce are a source of carbs.

    “Do not have an opinion while you listen because frankly, your opinion doesn't hold much water outside of Your Universe. Just listen. Listen until their brain has been twisted like a dripping towel and what they have to say is all over the floor.”
    ― Hugh Elliot

    LOL - you didn't have to say the word Paleo - is was pretty obvious, as was the fact you had already come to a conclusion before you posted this with some side-door discussion/debate.
    The most common food intolerance's: Wheat, gluten, white rice, potatoes, and various other grains. What do all of these foods have in common? Our ancestors didn't eat them.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Who do I sue for time wasted making a serious reply to this thread?

    Anybody want to jump on board for a class action?

    I'm in!
  • Bailey543
    Bailey543 Posts: 375
    Bahahahaha!! I like you :wink:
    I eat low carb because carbs are not the primary source of fuel for me.

    I have adapted to primarily burn my fat stores for energy.

    And call me crazy but if you want to lose fat then this seems like a Good Thing.

    Now, excuse me, but in my clearly energy-depleted state I have a shedload of mowing to do.

    If I don't make it to end without a slice of bread then I'll be sure to let you know ;)
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    I keep my carbs at 30% and I don't eat potatoes, white flour, pasta, corn. I eat a ton of veggies, berries and some fruit. I eat whole grains like oatmeal and quinoa. I do this because I am a diabetic and I have learned what foods raise my blood sugar and what foods are ok for me. I probably eat between 70 and 110g of carbs a day which is high for some low carb diets but much lower then USDA or MFP recommends. I do it because it works for me and keeps me healthy. My results so far have been all the proof I need.

    This is exactly what I do and why. In addition to being former diabetic (the weight loss has it under control) I have PCOS as well. PCOS is EXTREMELY common so its not suprising that so many women try to eat good/lower carb. When I say low carb, I DO NOT mean Atkins, ketosis level of no carb... I mean good carbs, reasonable numbers -- 30% of my daily.
  • LifestyleChange33
    LifestyleChange33 Posts: 169 Member
    Eh you lose more water weight at first on a low-carb diet.

    I stopped eating wheat because most bad foods have wheat in them! Also it's easy to get into a bloodsugar war with yourself causing binges and crashes (the afternoon drag I used to suffer from and aleviate with energy drinks or sugary snacks is a thing of the past now that I have technically gone "low carb"). I do still occasionally eat oats and I definitely eat fruit- so Atkins would not have me...

    I would say don't do it unless you mean to keep it that way for the rest of your life- diets work only temporarily while lifestyle changes are more likely to be effective permenant solutions.
  • kbairdphillips
    kbairdphillips Posts: 275 Member
    My only reason for doing so is because I have PCOS and am insulin resistant. If I didn't have that I wouldn't pay attention to carbs.


    I keep my carbs set at about 20% half the week and the other half I bump it up to about 35%. I only switch it up to break the monotony of it.

    I do have to admit that I feel better and that since my protein is so high, I am rarely hungry.
  • volume77
    volume77 Posts: 670 Member
    Sugar is toxic.

    Carbohydrate is rare in nature and our biology is designed to store it when we come across it.

    Insulin (triggered by carbohydrate) suppresses important hormones like Ghrelin and Leptin, that control hunger and satiation.

    Carbohydrate causes an imbalance of good and bad cholesterol and prevents the body from regulating it appropriately.

    Carbohydrate causes hardening of arterial walls, causing clogged arteries that cholesterol attempts to repair. This becomes a chronic issue and is commonly blamed on cholesterol and fat.



    this

    Carbohydrate can cause insulin insensitivity leading to diabetes and other chronic issues like metabolic syndrome.

    Many types of cancer are accelerated in growth by carbohydrate because cancers develop insulin receptors.

    Carbohydrate effects the brain the same way many addictive drugs do.

    Carbohydrate addicts suffer with withdraw symptoms when they quit cold turkey.

    Also, Carbohydrate is 100% NOT NECESSARY IN THE DIET. We only need fat and protein.

    So why eat it unless you have a specific purpose and a means to use that carbohydrate effectively.





    this!^
  • volume77
    volume77 Posts: 670 Member
    I tried losing weight for the longest, exercised like a mad man and even ran 2 half marathons and my weight stalled eventhough I was in a caloric deficit (I know, he's a liar right?).

    I switched to low carb and the plateau finally ended and my caloric deficit is the same as before. Can I argue about studies and the value of a calorie? All I can say is that its working for me and that's all that matters.

    Now by 'low carb' I mean I get about 25% of my calories from carbs (<150 grams/day) and I keep it at whole fruits and veggies, no sodas, juice, cereal, white potatoes, etc.

    And I accomplished this without a personal hatred of Gary Taubes or Dr. Lutsig LOL!

    OMG, you are such a liar! There is NO WAY that you lost weight with the same caloric deficit where you were stuck before!
    :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:




    ^ actually it is very possible

    i used to eat 1200 calories of high carb and gain whereas i can eat 1400-1500 cals low carb and loose.
    its a total paradox but that my expereience
  • cpaman87
    cpaman87 Posts: 193 Member
    I do 100 carbs a day because it works for me. Calore intake is 1500. That level allows me to eat some fruit and other good carbs. I stick with things that are low on the glycemic index. I avoid most wheat products because there is little nutrition just empty carbs.
  • I wish I could tell you that I fought the good fight, and the carbs let me be. I wish I could tell you that - but dieting is no fairy-tale world. I never said who did it, but they all knew. Things went on like that for awhile - dieting consists of routine, and then more routine. Every so often, I would show up with more bodyfat. The carbs kept at me - sometimes I was able to fight 'em off, sometimes not. And that's how it went for me - that was my routine. I do believe those first two years were the worst for me, and I also believe that if things had gone on that way, dieting would have got the best of me.

    Andy Dufresne, how is the skinny life in Mexico treating you? :-)

    LOL Get busy livin', or get busy dyin', folks.
  • reneepugh
    reneepugh Posts: 522 Member
    I had gestational diabetes. But, regardless of that, I eat low carb because it works and its healthier for me. I only eat "good" carbs meaning fruit and veggies. I tend to think that breads and pastas are filler food and packed with empty calories. I don't stay away from carbs, I just choose my carbs wisely and don't over do it.
  • shar140
    shar140 Posts: 1,158 Member
    Low carb diets are only useful for shredding body fat in short periods of time, they're not for endurance or performance athletes like yourself.

    4-6 weeks is the maximum recommended safe time to be on a low carb diet (25-30% carb) After that all kinds of health problems arise.

    Safe carbs would be 40% or higher. Body builders and performance athletes stick around 50% carbs at higher caloric intake (low glycemic of course)

    But for the average Joe getting off the couch we want to kick start that fat loss by metabolizing more fat stores and using energy from there, instead of lots of carbs in the tummy / blood stream =D

    That's interesting, I play rugby and I eat lower-carb. Not 20g a day low, but usually under 100 and I do just fine (I tend to carb-cycle though, around 30-100. off-season I tend to be around 30-60). I haven't had any health issues and I've been doing this for a year. Actually, I've gone off all my medications (Prilosec for years for acid reflux, years of claritin year-round for allergies, metformin for insulin resistance, spiro & BC for PCOS - I actually have a normal, regular period on my own now!). I've gotten in better shape after ditching the grains and the higher carbs - even when I did a 40/30/30 and was 'only' getting around 200g of carbs a day, it was too much for me.

    I made it though one of the hardest practices of my life last night (yay pre-season fitness training!) and I only had about 76g of carbs all day yesterday (about 15% of my calorie intake). Not only just made it through, but I rocked it. Almost 2 hours of sprints, sit ups, pushups, burpees, more sprints, and some rucking. Then more sprints.

    To the OP: I do it because I feel better. There is a magic window, so to speak, for me, though. I can't go too low on calories/carbs or I feel awful (I made the mistake of trying to play rugby in the spring on only 1400 net calories since that is what MFP gave me to lose 1lb a week. bad idea. I upped it to 1600, felt sooo much better, AND the scale started moving again!), but I can't go too high on the carbs, either. In-season I supplement with bananas, sweet potatoes/yams, and rice (I didn't know this was a common allergen; corn is, however), but still try to stay under 100g a day (in-season). Otherwise, my carbs come from veggies, a little fruit (mostly berries; other fruits I have occasionally, maybe once or twice a week. NO APPLES, I'll be starving 45 minutes later if I eat one), and some dairy (yogurt and cheese). No more bloating or IBS, and I, too, have a flatter tummy (or, rather when I indulged over the holidays my belly came back with a vengence!), no more acid reflux, no more blood sugar surges or crashes, etc. I used to take metformin, then it dawned on me, why keep putting in my body the foods that make me need to take medicine? I'd rather treat the CAUSE of the issues, than treat symptoms with chemicals (that have their own side effects!). I don't get sick as often (when I did get colds over the winter, I finally realized it was after I had eaten something with wheat), and I heal faster (no more taking all weekend to recover from a Saturday rugby game - I can actually do some light to moderate exercise the next day). No more achy joints or stuffy nose or headaches (unless I eat something gluten-laden).

    So yes, most of my issues stem from what seems like a gluten intolerance (not confirmed, but I'm not going back to eating it for 6 weeks and have symptoms all come back, just for a test I have to pay for that doesn't even detect just intolerances), so I just avoid it (when that's the only thing that can be done anyway, confirmed by test or not). I also try to avoid sugar, since it is addictive to me. And I try to avoid too many carbs (too many for me) in general, based on how my body reacts (even too many non-gluten carbs give me IBS symptoms). Too many diabetics in my family, and I don't want to end up with all the same complications they have (or had), like kidney failure (my dad's been on dialysis for over a year, and an aunt on dialysis, and I have a cousin only in his 40s on dialysis, too), or my uncle who had to have his big toe amputated.

    Sorry this ended up a lot longer than I had anticipated!
  • ashleyanh410
    ashleyanh410 Posts: 14 Member
    I eat low-carb"ish," meaning that I adhere to a diet of <100g of carbohydrate a day, 5-6 days a week. I don't believe in total deprivation and when I do eat starchy carbs I like to try to stick to quinoa, brown rice, etc. (Although, not gonna lie, bread is delicious :love: ).

    I know there's a lot of literature out there with huge cult followings about how low-carb helps you lose weight and blah blah blah, but the reason that I do it is because I feel that it just helps me stay within my calorie limits. I end up feeling fuller eating a huge serving of broccoli and some meat than I would if I ate the same calories in bread. Also, I find that eating low-carb helps me eat more "natural" foods and keeps me away from a lot of the processed stuff.

    I say, do whatever works for you!
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