paralympics
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Nope, no coverage. We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL. Nobody would be watching the paralympics.
Think again, this is the biggest ever Paralympics, tickets almost sold out 2.5million on offer - 2.4million sold. It is a shame the US could not even use one of it's 100 channels to air it.
The U.S. is not a social government. They don't force companies to do their bidding. If I am a TV broadcaster and I say "hey, if I air this, I will lose 20million dollars of possible profit" - my next statement won't be "yaye lets do it." It will instead be "screw that, lets put something on that people will watch."
Bless you. The commercial channels *bid* to host the event.
Why would they bid for losing money? Might as well see who can load money in the shredder faster.
You don't seem to get it. People here actually *want* to watch our athletes. The event is being covered by a major commercial broadcaster. Nothing to do with the state as you were trying to imply. There's no chance of them losing money. Our stadium are sold out and our tv coverage will be well subscribed.
If NBC thought that they would make more money airing it than by airing their other programs, they would. They, like other companies, focus on maximizing profit. It is not being aired, therefore it is not profitable in comparison. The end!
One billion people are reported to have watched the ceremony worldwide. That's quite a lot of people. The end!
That doesn't mean even 10 million in America would watch it. In the US, I bet a new episode of CSI would get more viewers than the paralympics.
It doesn't matter, you see, one billion people around the rest of the world watched it, just think of all the advertising that went on.
CSI? What's that LMAO.
Luckily the world doesn't just revolve around the US eh.
The world doesn't have to evolve around the U.S. and no one on here is saying it should. That being said, what U.S. tv networks decide to air shouldn't revolve around the world either. Each country is a different market and their tv networks will handle their markets accordingly. Are you still not understanding this logic? I've explained it repeatedly and it is so simple, yet you seem to miss it entirely.0 -
Nope, no coverage. We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL. Nobody would be watching the paralympics.
Sorry, but that's not real football... FootBall is a game you play with your FEET! The game you talk about is called HandEgg...
*Couldn't resist posting since I love 'soccer' as you call it...0 -
The world doesn't have to evolve around the U.S. and no one on here is saying it should. That being said, what U.S. tv networks decide to air shouldn't revolve around the world either. Each country is a different market and their tv networks will handle their markets accordingly. Are you still not understanding this logic? I've explained it repeatedly and it is so simple, yet you seem to miss it entirely.
I don't think anybody is missing the point actually; they are simply pointing out that it's actually quite a sad state of affairs that so many of you seem not to care. Also it seems you're all quite proud of not caring....very strange...0 -
Disgraceful!
Once again, America shows the world how backwards it can be. Snubbing our 7/7 tribute at the Olympic Opening Ceremony was bad, but snubbing the second largest sporting event in the world because nobody there wants to see people with disabilities on their TV is an absolute... There's literally no word strong enough to describe how disgustingly ignorant and offensive that is.
It's not "disgraceful."
Is it disgraceful if we don't air a cricket competition? Or if we don't air a spelling bee? Maybe just in general if we don't air a tv show you like? Really? You act like every American is yelling "we hate cripples" when that is an absolute lie. People just aren't as interested in it. Like i said before, I don't even like the regular Olympics. Many don't. I think the regular Olympics is a waste of time. Nevertheless, they air it because they think they'll make money - and for the record, in recent years tv networks LOST money airing the Olympics in the U.S. So to think that the paralympics will be some gold mine is absolutely insane.0 -
We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL.
Hilarious. Who says Americans don't have a sense of humour?
Seriously though, THIS is football:
The game of using both feet and hands to move an oval shaped object to the end of the opponent's side of the pitch rather than just feet was created at Rugby School in England and based on the original game of football - Rugby football.
The fact you guys choose to play it using shoulder pads and eye liner is frankly none of my bidness....
Can you imagine if a rugby player asked if he could put pads on to protect himself?!
Im from the south of the UK, and the rugby we play is hard, but if you are from the north, they play an even harder version. Rugby League.
That is harder, faster and much more physical than either Rugby Union or Hand-Egg.
But the lot of it is trumped by Aussie Rules Football. Fighting is common place and injuries are ignored. The pitch is 150mtrs long and the players play with no padding and only mouth guards.
But the reason its called football, very similar to soccer being called football, is that the predominant part of the game is using your FEET.
When football has a world cup, it has all countries involved, when there is a world championship in Hand-egg they only have one country.
Even rounders, sorry, baseball, has two or three countries involved for their "World" Series.
But ultimately it comes down to the Paralympics is not shown because it is not high enough profile for the advertisers to recoup their money.
A wicked shame, but then c'est la guerre0 -
Live streaming here but I don't know if it will work outside of UK / Ireland
http://paralympics.channel4.com/video/index.html
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I'm going to check the various channels on the satellite, someone around here (gulf/mid east) must be showing it. Maybe some of it's going to be uploaded on you tube.0 -
If you really wanted to compare who cares more about people with disabilities why don't you look at who donates the most money... not who watches the most events.
But yes, I'm sure you're good at giving money to people. As long as you don't have to... you know.... *look* at them....
This is very rude.
Exceptionally rude.
If they had an Olympic event for rudeness, you'd get the gold.
However, it wouldn't be televised. Because nobody would watch it.
Rude is ignoring your own athletes competing for your country because "football" is more important.
Hey, I never asked them to compete. Just because someone does somethng and says "it's for america" then I have to watch it? Really? Do you have any idea how many different competitions are occurring around the world today that are divisioned by country? I guarantee you there's at least 15 things going on this week be it sports, computers, robotic competitions, spelling competitions, liberal arts... etc... there is thousands of competitions yearly divisioned by country. Are we supposed to watch EVERY single one and AIR everyone sngle one because they are doing it "for America?" Your logic is sooooooooooooo flawed. Also, I hate baseball - but there are international games... am I suppoesd to watch those too? You know, I sort of have to since they are doing it "for America" and all.0 -
We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL.
Hilarious. Who says Americans don't have a sense of humour?
Seriously though, THIS is football:
The game of using both feet and hands to move an oval shaped object to the end of the opponent's side of the pitch rather than just feet was created at Rugby School in England and based on the original game of football - Rugby football.
The fact you guys choose to play it using shoulder pads and eye liner is frankly none of my bidness....
So your big thng about rugby is that it's more contact? Big whoop. Watch hockey.
The reason i like American Football is strategy. 90% of American Football is about strategy. All the way from the plays down to how you partition the time of said plays and manipulate the clock to your advantage. I don't watch Football for hits - that's what people do who don't understand the game.0 -
We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL.
Hilarious. Who says Americans don't have a sense of humour?
Seriously though, THIS is football:
The game of using both feet and hands to move an oval shaped object to the end of the opponent's side of the pitch rather than just feet was created at Rugby School in England and based on the original game of football - Rugby football.
The fact you guys choose to play it using shoulder pads and eye liner is frankly none of my bidness....
This and it always amuses me that the injury rate for American football players is lower than the cheerleaders :laugh:
That statistic is obviously skewed since it neglects the severity of the injury. "oh I spraned my ankle" vs "oh, I'm brain damaged."0 -
The world doesn't have to evolve around the U.S. and no one on here is saying it should. That being said, what U.S. tv networks decide to air shouldn't revolve around the world either. Each country is a different market and their tv networks will handle their markets accordingly. Are you still not understanding this logic? I've explained it repeatedly and it is so simple, yet you seem to miss it entirely.
I don't think anybody is missing the point actually; they are simply pointing out that it's actually quite a sad state of affairs that so many of you seem not to care. Also it seems you're all quite proud of not caring....very strange...
You don't see the point or your argument would cease. You're claim is that WE MUST WATCH paralympics or we don't care about the handicapped. That is b.s. We're not "proud of not caring" - we are honest that it's not something we want to watch, but that doesn't mean we don't care. If I don't watch the news this week, does that mean I don't care about what happened in the world or about the things that happened to people?0 -
the US didn't get proper coverage of the Olympics, time delayed events etc, i doubt they could care less about the paralympics0
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The world doesn't have to evolve around the U.S. and no one on here is saying it should. That being said, what U.S. tv networks decide to air shouldn't revolve around the world either. Each country is a different market and their tv networks will handle their markets accordingly. Are you still not understanding this logic? I've explained it repeatedly and it is so simple, yet you seem to miss it entirely.
I don't think anybody is missing the point actually; they are simply pointing out that it's actually quite a sad state of affairs that so many of you seem not to care. Also it seems you're all quite proud of not caring....very strange...
You don't see the point or your argument would cease. You're claim is that WE MUST WATCH paralympics or we don't care about the handicapped. That is b.s. We're not "proud of not caring" - we are honest that it's not something we want to watch, but that doesn't mean we don't care. If I don't watch the news this week, does that mean I don't care about what happened in the world or about the things that happened to people?
Who said anything about you MUST watch it? This thread started out asking quite simply WHY the US were not giving it any air at all.0 -
the US didn't get proper coverage of the Olympics, time delayed events etc, i doubt they could care less about the paralympics
Yes, it messed about with their advertising because it would have been aired in the middle of the night/very early hours of the morning, therefore they stuck their delay on it.
I remember watching the Atlanta games in 1996, it was aired throughout the night/early hours of the morning here in the UK, I lived like a vampire for two weeks, used to go to work like a zombie PMSL0 -
We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL.
Hilarious. Who says Americans don't have a sense of humour?
Seriously though, THIS is football:
The game of using both feet and hands to move an oval shaped object to the end of the opponent's side of the pitch rather than just feet was created at Rugby School in England and based on the original game of football - Rugby football.
The fact you guys choose to play it using shoulder pads and eye liner is frankly none of my bidness....
So your big thng about rugby is that it's more contact? Big whoop. Watch hockey.
The reason i like American Football is strategy. 90% of American Football is about strategy. All the way from the plays down to how you partition the time of said plays and manipulate the clock to your advantage. I don't watch Football for hits - that's what people do who don't understand the game.
Actually watch the wheelchair rugby if you want to see brutality. Think I am joking, think again.0 -
So your big thng about rugby is that it's more contact? Big whoop. Watch hockey.
The reason i like American Football is strategy. 90% of American Football is about strategy. All the way from the plays down to how you partition the time of said plays and manipulate the clock to your advantage. I don't watch Football for hits - that's what people do who don't understand the game.
You really should stop making things up.
My "big thing" (errr, yeah) was that your compatriot had mentioned that American Football was "real" football rather than soccer when in fact it is just a diluted version of Rugby, which to me is the "real" football.
As for the "shoulder pads" remark I have discussed Rubgy v American Football with my friends across the Atlantic many times and they always end up crying for some reason. I can't help it if y'all are oversensitive and your athletes lack the skill and strategy not to get hit or be able to take a fall.
Sheesh.0 -
The world doesn't have to evolve around the U.S. and no one on here is saying it should. That being said, what U.S. tv networks decide to air shouldn't revolve around the world either. Each country is a different market and their tv networks will handle their markets accordingly. Are you still not understanding this logic? I've explained it repeatedly and it is so simple, yet you seem to miss it entirely.
I don't think anybody is missing the point actually; they are simply pointing out that it's actually quite a sad state of affairs that so many of you seem not to care. Also it seems you're all quite proud of not caring....very strange...
You don't see the point or your argument would cease. You're claim is that WE MUST WATCH paralympics or we don't care about the handicapped. That is b.s. We're not "proud of not caring" - we are honest that it's not something we want to watch, but that doesn't mean we don't care. If I don't watch the news this week, does that mean I don't care about what happened in the world or about the things that happened to people?
No, you clearly are misconstruing my point. I'm not saying you "MUST WATCH paralympics". I'm simply saying I think it's sad that you, as a country, don't seem to care about the paralympics and that you seem to be proud of that lack of caring.0 -
Nope, no coverage. We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL. Nobody would be watching the paralympics.
Real football involves using your feet, playing a full 90 minutes, no time outs, no video replay delays and is the most beautiful game known to humankind (a fact that is appreciated by the 95% of the world's population outside of the USA....):happy:
^^This!! Not to mention that there are 22 extremely lovely, athletic men on the field at any given time (not a single one of them weighs anything like 300 pounds), and the fan experience is unlike anything else.
Er...wow. Sorry disabled people aren't 'pretty' enough for you.0 -
Channel 4 is a commercial television station showing the paralympics because it knows that many Brits will want to watch the superhuman effort made by these incredible athletes.
I'm incredibly proud of our athletes, able bodied or paralympians, but there is something particularly inspiring and humbling watching the paralympians who include victims of disease, people who have coped with disability since birth, those who have had tragic accidents, victims of terrorism and ex-servicemen who paid a terrible price for doing their duty for queen and country.
The problem here is with the tv networks, not Americans. There are many Americans who want to watch the paralympics. There will always be those that don't, the same can be said of Great Britain, I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
However, it does surprise me that given the almost jingoistic patriotism Americans have, and in particular for their servicemen, that none of the main tv networks have picked this up. I think it comes down to risk. They know they will get viewings and ad-revenue from American football. The paralympics will present the tv networks with a risk and none of them look to be willing to take that on.
That's a sad indictment of American tv networks and whilst we have fewer channels we can be happy that we have the bbc and in particular Channel 4 for taking a bit of risk.
As the Channel 4 poster advertising the paralympics says - Thanks for the warm up
Let the games commence!0 -
Reply from a north american but not U.S. of A. point of view.
It is really sad that I will have to watch the paraolympics on you tube or streamed.
It is very hard to watch English foot ball for two reasons i) it is so slow... after growing up watching Ice hockey it is almost impossible to stay focused on English foot ball. ii) The constant faking of injury by the players...have they no pride ?
Rugby is a real sport... where else can you play a full contact sport that thinks safety equipment is some electrical tape to hold your ears on. God I love that game.
CFL is way more fun than NFL because with 3 minutes left to play you can still come back from 21 point behind.0 -
SO why cover the "abled" Olympics then if that's the case?
Why should US coverage revolve around what's popular in the rest of the world? That's stupid.Nope, no coverage. We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL. Nobody would be watching the paralympics.
Ah of course. A sport only played in the US is naturally far more important....
Seriously. Sometimes you americans really don't do your own reputation any favours. Rise above the stereotype!0 -
Reply from a north american but not U.S. of A. point of view.
It is really sad that I will have to watch the paraolympics on you tube or streamed.
It is very hard to watch English foot ball for two reasons i) it is so slow... after growing up watching Ice hockey it is almost impossible to stay focused on English foot ball. ii) The constant faking of injury by the players...have they no pride ?
Rugby is a real sport... where else can you play a full contact sport that thinks safety equipment is some electrical tape to hold your ears on. God I love that game.
CFL is way more fun than NFL because with 3 minutes left to play you can still come back from 21 point behind.
Re the injury faking - that annoys us too. Doesn't happen in lower leagues though as much, and certainly not in the local league I play in. Oh he broke his leg? Substitute him off and we'll keep playing while someone phones an ambulance...literally....0 -
American football is greater than all
I find it difficult to form an opinion on American "football" the last time I watched any was about 30 years ago and I could only stand to watch about 5 minutes of it , bored me so much0 -
I am from the US. I was looking forward to watching the Olympics this year. Want to know why I stopped watching? By the time the events actually aired here, I already knew who won. Its like reading a book and having someone tell you the end. It ruins it.
Do I wish I could watch the paralympics? Yes. But I also wish that it weren't treated as an entirely seperate event. I believe the athletes should get to compete at one time, not seperately.
And for all of those people generalizing and bashing Americans because we aren't watching the paralympics, please tell me when was the last time you watched a live game of wheelchair basketball that was played not during the paralympics??? If the answer is never, I wouldn't be surprised. I am glad you can sit atop your high horse once every four years and critisize Americans for not watching.
See as an American, we are used to being bashed for being Americans. It's sad that when any other country needs help in times of war or natural distasters, we are the first to get called on for help, and we are the first to always get attacked and condemned for everything we do.
To the OP, why does it matter to you what we watch on tv? I promise not to worry myself with whats on your tv, if you stop worrying about whats on mine.0 -
We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL.
Hilarious. Who says Americans don't have a sense of humour?
Seriously though, THIS is football:
The game of using both feet and hands to move an oval shaped object to the end of the opponent's side of the pitch rather than just feet was created at Rugby School in England and based on the original game of football - Rugby football.
The fact you guys choose to play it using shoulder pads and eye liner is frankly none of my bidness....
This and it always amuses me that the injury rate for American football players is lower than the cheerleaders :laugh:
That statistic is obviously skewed since it neglects the severity of the injury. "oh I spraned my ankle" vs "oh, I'm brain damaged."
Of course it's skewed, it wouldn't be funny otherwise :huh:
Actually the stat was based upon major injury requiring hospitalisation.
Who would have thought you would see the words American, American Football and I'm brain damaged in the same post.0 -
We are about to start the college football (real football, not soccer) season and the NFL.
Hilarious. Who says Americans don't have a sense of humour?
Seriously though, THIS is football:
The game of using both feet and hands to move an oval shaped object to the end of the opponent's side of the pitch rather than just feet was created at Rugby School in England and based on the original game of football - Rugby football.
The fact you guys choose to play it using shoulder pads and eye liner is frankly none of my bidness....
So your big thng about rugby is that it's more contact? Big whoop. Watch hockey.
The reason i like American Football is strategy. 90% of American Football is about strategy. All the way from the plays down to how you partition the time of said plays and manipulate the clock to your advantage. I don't watch Football for hits - that's what people do who don't understand the game.
This. Football is the ultimate team sport in my opinion. It is one giant physical chess match.0 -
Its not on TV because not enough people are going to watch it. Has nothing to do with us being "stupid americans"
Get over yourselves you fcks.
Its football season, no network is going to air some small time paraolympics and lose millions of dollars in ad revenue. If someone wants to watch it I am sure they can get it streaming online.0 -
Its not on TV because not enough people are going to watch it. Has nothing to do with us being "stupid americans"
Get over yourselves you fcks.
Its football season, no network is going to air some small time paraolympics and lose millions of dollars in ad revenue. If someone wants to watch it I am sure they can get it streaming online.
To add to what I said, do you think the UK would be showing the paraolympics on tv if it was going on during the Euro Cup. Yea I don't think so.0 -
Its not on TV because not enough people are going to watch it. Has nothing to do with us being "stupid americans"
Get over yourselves you fcks.
Its football season, no network is going to air some small time paraolympics and lose millions of dollars in ad revenue. If someone wants to watch it I am sure they can get it streaming online.
To add to what I said, do you think the UK would be showing the paraolympics on tv if it was going on during the Euro Cup. Yea I don't think so.
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Its not on TV because not enough people are going to watch it. Has nothing to do with us being "stupid americans"
Get over yourselves you fcks.
Its football season, no network is going to air some small time paraolympics and lose millions of dollars in ad revenue. If someone wants to watch it I am sure they can get it streaming online.
To add to what I said, do you think the UK would be showing the paraolympics on tv if it was going on during the Euro Cup. Yea I don't think so.
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yes...yes they would....so for clarification on the above points...does EVERY channel have American Football showing on it? EVERY one?! In England we manage to have The World Cup and the Euros (and all manner of other sporting events) shown on a given channel or channels, whilst the other channels air their own chosen broadcasts...the marvels of modern technology, eh?0 -
Without getting drawn into the America bashing argument; the soccer season has started here as the college/NFL has over there, so I don't think its fair to compare the national US leagues to an international competition like the euro finals (forgive me if I've misunderstood the point).
Plus PLENTY of sports fans over here do not like soccer/football but love to watch the olympics and paralympics. I think there is more than enough tv channels out there to accomodate many different sports. I can only imagine it is the same in the US.
I still think that until a network takes a risk and shows the paralympics how will they ever really know if there is an interest or not?0
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