Why, thank you Bob Evan's....
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Wow I thought we were all here to support each other. Some of these comments are pretty rude. The poster was trying to say that it should be everyone responsibility to eat and live well. I believe we all know it's about choices. Some people have a harder time than others. I'm just really shocked at a lot of the mean responses.
I think posters like the OP generate the "mean responses" by riding into these forums on their high horses and looking condescendingly down on others. I love the whole moral indignation of the originators of posts like these... like they have NO blame for why they now need to lose weight/get in shape/etc. It is a sad commentary on the state of this country that no one wants to deal with personal accountability for ANYthing. Why should they when it is so much easier to blame others?
It is everyone's *choice* (not responsibility) to eat and live well - but last time I checked people in this country are still able to make that choice on their own. If someone walks into a restaurant like this -- and you can be darned sure they're not going there to eat healthy things to begin with -- and orders basket after basket of fries, it's their OWN lack of willpower that will cause them grief.0 -
If you have posted here and are of the opinion that corporations have no responsibility for the products that they put out (because they are only in business to make money and that is all they should have to worry about), then do you also believe that big tobacco should be allowed to advertise when and wherever they want, including to children, and there should no age restrictions on purchasing cigarettes, or warning labels on their products?
To me, these two issues seem very similar at heart.0 -
yep, this thread just went WAAYYYY over the heads of many. :smh:0
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They are not very similar. On one side, you have food. On the other side, you have poison.If you have posted here and are of the opinion that corporations have no responsibility for the products that they put out (because they are only in business to make money and that is all they should have to worry about), then do you also believe that big tobacco should be allowed to advertise when and wherever they want, including to children, and there should no age restrictions on purchasing cigarettes, or warning labels on their products?
To me, these two issues seem very similar at heart.
Besides, the tobacco companies haven't taken any responsibility for any of those things. Left to their own devices, they intentionally target children with advertising. Ad restriction, age limits, and warning labels were forced on the tobacco companies by LAW, they didn't have any kind of responsible ideas about these things. In fact, they spent decades fighting these restrictions in court, including intentionally lying about the danger of the product.
I fail to see how they are similar at all.0 -
I've eaten at Bob Evans once. I was on a road trip and didn't know what it was. The taste if their food is reason enough not to eat there.
I do go to Red Robin once in a great while and if I get fries, I don't get a refill.0 -
IMO, I think a bigger contribution to America's obesity problem is the lack of education the masses seem to have on nutrition. I am pushing 30 years old, and am JUST STARTING to get it. And I ask myself WHY? I was never a stupid kid, and got ok grades: why have I never grasped the concepts of calorie deficits/exercise? Because nobody ever taught me, and I had to gain a ridiculous amount of weight before I learned it the hard way!
Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?
Oh my - yes please! How much better would it be to teach these important concepts in PE instead of just telling the kids to run laps?
Phy Ed is Phy Ed.....Did no one have HEALTH in Middle or High school. That's where we covered nutrition. Always the school's fault though, never at home....
Actually no, I never did have Health in middle or high school. A lot of schools don't offer it, or make it mandatory, which really sucks. And homes are just as responsible for educating kids as schools, don't get me wrong. What I'm saying is, a lot of parents don't educate on nutrition, because they don't know themselves. A good way to fix this is educate kids at school, so we can break the vicious cycle.0 -
I sometimes dream that I have a building just like Scrooge Mcducks gold building where he swims. Except instead of gold, it has french fries in it. I think it would hurt less to jump into a sea of fries than a sea of pure, solid gold.
Kids, remember. French fries > gold
Family Guy had Peter dive into the gold and he got all cut up and bruised and he was like "gold coins aren't soft" while he was crying. So french fries would hurt less, but the oil would burn.
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IMO, I think a bigger contribution to America's obesity problem is the lack of education the masses seem to have on nutrition. I am pushing 30 years old, and am JUST STARTING to get it. And I ask myself WHY? I was never a stupid kid, and got ok grades: why have I never grasped the concepts of calorie deficits/exercise? Because nobody ever taught me, and I had to gain a ridiculous amount of weight before I learned it the hard way!
Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?
Oh my - yes please! How much better would it be to teach these important concepts in PE instead of just telling the kids to run laps?
Phy Ed is Phy Ed.....Did no one have HEALTH in Middle or High school. That's where we covered nutrition. Always the school's fault though, never at home....
Actually no, I never did have Health in middle or high school. A lot of schools don't offer it, or make it mandatory, which really sucks. And homes are just as responsible for educating kids as schools, don't get me wrong. What I'm saying is, a lot of parents don't educate on nutrition, because they don't know themselves. A good way to fix this is educate kids at school, so we can break the vicious cycle.
I don't know that it's a lack of education. Schools have been educating kids for years about nutrition, health, drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc. Yet, still I see kids eating unhealthy foods, buying 44-oz. Big Gulps they bought at the local 7-11, smoking on street corners, drinking and getting into serious/fatal car crashes, doing drugs, etc.
The problem is way bigger -- some schools are cutting phys. ed. and recess, people are working longer hours, commuting more; kids are playing outside less (sports are organized/specialized and you can't just go to a park -- not safe -- to engage in pick-up games, computers, video games, etc., People are more sedentary, more tired, less likely to work out. "Bad" foods are made and sold more cheaply, so people buy them; healthy foods can cost more. As people get busier, and even kids are overscheduled, they sometimes turn to processed foods or go through drive-thrus instead of making meals from scratch.
For the most part, I agree that restaurants don't have to offer free refills on things like fries, but I don't think they should be vilified for that. The people who are accepting the free refills likely aren't making healthy choices in other areas of their lives, either, and the fries are just going to be another ***** in the wall.0 -
If you have posted here and are of the opinion that corporations have no responsibility for the products that they put out (because they are only in business to make money and that is all they should have to worry about), then do you also believe that big tobacco should be allowed to advertise when and wherever they want, including to children, and there should no age restrictions on purchasing cigarettes, or warning labels on their products?
To me, these two issues seem very similar at heart.
Age restrictions yes, I agree with those. Warning labels---maybe. Advertising--I think they should be able to advertise wherever they want to, as long as the advertising isn't focused at those people below the minimum age.
Businesses shouldn't be responsible for adults poor choices.0 -
The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
No one (person, corporation, or government) should have to take responsibility for the actions of adults.
Yeah? :huh:
Yes. Why, do you want to be responsible for my actions?0 -
there's actually nothing wrong with a "ridiuclously unhealthy hamburger with endless fries".
I routinely eat large amounts of beef and carbs.........
nothing is more annoying than a food snob who just started eating "healthy" and talks trash about what other people eat.0 -
If you have posted here and are of the opinion that corporations have no responsibility for the products that they put out (because they are only in business to make money and that is all they should have to worry about), then do you also believe that big tobacco should be allowed to advertise when and wherever they want, including to children, and there should no age restrictions on purchasing cigarettes, or warning labels on their products?
To me, these two issues seem very similar at heart.
Age restrictions yes, I agree with those. Warning labels---maybe. Advertising--I think they should be able to advertise wherever they want to, as long as the advertising isn't focused at those people below the minimum age.
Businesses shouldn't be responsible for adults poor choices.
Exactly this.
Tobacco companies do advertise in the places they aren't supposed to, anyway. Only it's nice and subtle, like showing all the Mad Men characters smoking everywhere. (I know it's period and all, but it's an advertisement all the same.) I'd kind of rather see a REAL advertisement that is obvious than a subliminal one where people don't even realize they're being sold to.
And advertising doesn't make people like a product. So a company can push something all it wants, but if no one likes it, no one will buy it. People like French fries. They're going to eat them, no matter what. Are you going to ban oil and potatoes in the grocery store so no one can make their own? Outlaw deep fryers?0 -
Read the book 'Mindless Eating' by Brian Wansink. There are a lot of things that restaurants do to get people to buy and eat more. Salty french fries increase what you will drink. So do peanuts, which is why some bars/restaurants put baskets of peanuts on the tables. 'Mindless Eating' really opened up my eyes. It will yours as well.0
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How does Red Robin not get any criticism in this post?
Haha, it's about CHOICES... if you choose to eat unlimited fries that's your problem, not Bob Evans's.
You are 100% correct!0 -
there's actually nothing wrong with a "ridiuclously unhealthy hamburger with endless fries".
I routinely eat large amounts of beef and carbs.........
nothing is more annoying than a food snob who just started eating "healthy" and talks trash about what other people eat.
Agreed.
Like Dan Duchranine said "Don't be mad you ate one hamburger, be mad you didn't eat three".
Not all hamburgers are created equal!0 -
I was a waitress at a restaurant that had 10 egg omelettes with half pound of cheese, piles of meat and then they covered it with sausage gravy. Also came with a plateful of potatoes and pancakes on the side. Everything cooked in oil, even the bacon. So disgusting.The few times I actually did eat there, I ended up in the bathroom all day. The massive portions of all their food were really popular. Many people finished it all. No surprising, most of the clientele were obese. One man( I am not lying) would come in and order a 15 (!!!) egg "everything" omelette,2 orders of potatoes, french toast, and 4 giant Cokes. I haven't worked there for a while- wonder if he's still alive...0
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I agree with the above post...ordered a sandwich at a well-known "healthy" food chain...turkey & veggies; thought it would be relatively healthy. When I logged it I nearly had a heart attack...790 cals & more than a full day's sodium!! Another time, a carefully constructed salad bar salad which was quite healthy EXCEPT that the "LOW FAT" balsamic dressing---which I purposely chose b/c I figured it was way better than the creamy dressings--was more than 200 calories PER 2 TBSP and I ended up with 400 cal total just in dressing...not to mention (again) sodium.... We can all pretty much figure that if you eat half a pizza or a big mac or a Bob Evans anything, you are gonna skyrocket your calories & if you choose to do that, fine. But when you are making purposeful choices to opt away from obviously unhealthy items and you STILL get whacked, that seems rather misleading. I am now REALLY suspicious of any commercially (restaurant) prepared foods and make sure to bo the homework in advance.0
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How does Red Robin not get any criticism in this post?
Haha, it's about CHOICES... if you choose to eat unlimited fries that's your problem, not Bob Evans's.
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The OP is talking about social responsibility that corporations should have to some extent; this goes beyond harmful, fattening food, and it includes things like the environment (i.e. pollution) and socioeconomic (i.e. child labor) concerns. Health of consumers should be considered by corporations as a duty of social responsibility; for example consider tobacco, alcohol, and fast food chains. Sure, no one forces you to chain smoke and down a pound of french fries, but companies should assume some part of the responsibility in their offerings.
No one (person, corporation, or government) should have to take responsibility for the actions of adults.
Yeah? :huh:
Yes. Why, do you want to be responsible for my actions?
Asking corporations to be responsible for the health of consumers is like asking a bird not to take a dump on your front lawn. Corporations can't control the consumer anymore than you can control where the bird dumps. People will be people. A little bad food now and then isn't all that harmful. Eating it everyday is harmful. Corporations are out there to make money. Even if you control what the people eat in your restaurant or what they can buy in the stores, you can't control how they prepare their food once home. This is why I find it funny when schools serve healthy meals to thwart obesity and then the child goes home to a meal of fried chicken from KFC with mashed potatoes and gravy and other fatty food.0 -
IMO, I think a bigger contribution to America's obesity problem is the lack of education the masses seem to have on nutrition. I am pushing 30 years old, and am JUST STARTING to get it. And I ask myself WHY? I was never a stupid kid, and got ok grades: why have I never grasped the concepts of calorie deficits/exercise? Because nobody ever taught me, and I had to gain a ridiculous amount of weight before I learned it the hard way!
Instead of forcing middle and high schoolers to get pelted with dodgeballs in P.E., why not educate them on nutrition? Have them be aware of how many calories are in a greasy McFatFat, and offer healthier alternatives? Maybe do a semester on learning how to cook simple, healthy meals?
Oh my - yes please! How much better would it be to teach these important concepts in PE instead of just telling the kids to run laps?
Phy Ed is Phy Ed.....Did no one have HEALTH in Middle or High school. That's where we covered nutrition. Always the school's fault though, never at home....
Actually no, I never did have Health in middle or high school. A lot of schools don't offer it, or make it mandatory, which really sucks. And homes are just as responsible for educating kids as schools, don't get me wrong. What I'm saying is, a lot of parents don't educate on nutrition, because they don't know themselves. A good way to fix this is educate kids at school, so we can break the vicious cycle.
A lot of schools, really? Sorry, but PE is PE. And kids don't "just run laps" in PE either. I truely feel sorry for the options you were offered in school.0 -
You were at Bob Evan's and ordered a hamburger? :noway:
I like their country dinners. A low calorie option, though, would be the wildfire grilled chicken! YUM!~ Add some veggies instead of fries.0 -
Nothing wrong with unlimited fries. Sometime after I get out of the gym I'll goto Fuddruckers and get a 1/2 burger with fries. I think 1 out of 7 times I get a 2nd order and eat 1/3-1/2 of it. Its not bad marketing. You get the idea you'll leave full which is what a meal should be.
The only problem I see is people don't know how to handle themselves and over eat. Its there problem not the restaurants fault.
Ah...Fuddruckers! Now that's where you go to have a burger! Our Fuddrucker's went out of business though. It's a Chinese buffet now. (with sushi on the buffet!)0 -
Yet another person blaming others for their bad choices. How is it Bob Evans fault for todays obesity problem? Its the people who put that trash in their bodies fault. Sheesh!! :grumble:0
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there's actually nothing wrong with a "ridiuclously unhealthy hamburger with endless fries".
I routinely eat large amounts of beef and carbs.........
nothing is more annoying than a food snob who just started eating "healthy" and talks trash about what other people eat.
If you don't like the post then politely escort your a$s somewhere else.0 -
I think the more important question here is what fast food place offers the best french fries. My choice will always be Mickey D's.
I agree.
I would have agreed many years ago. When they switched from animal fat to vegetable oil, it ruined their "best fries" moniker. They are now just ordinary. I don't even order them any more, if I even go to McD's at all. (which is only emergency situations)0 -
If you don't like the post then politely escort your a$s somewhere else.
we're in the food and nutrition section. and if you're spreading bad information, I think it is neccessary for someone to point out to other when you're full of it...............0 -
there's actually nothing wrong with a "ridiuclously unhealthy hamburger with endless fries".
I routinely eat large amounts of beef and carbs.........
nothing is more annoying than a food snob who just started eating "healthy" and talks trash about what other people eat.
If you don't like the post then politely escort your a$s somewhere else.
c'mon ilovedeadlifts. Time to go get an awesome burger while the food snob judges us.
She is SO much better *bows down*0 -
c'mon ilovedeadlifts. Time to go get an awesome burger while the food snob judges us.
She is SO much better *bows down*
I'm gonna pick up a pizza and a couple dozen chocolate chip cookies on the way. I need a postworkout snack0 -
c'mon ilovedeadlifts. Time to go get an awesome burger while the food snob judges us.
She is SO much better *bows down*
I'm gonna pick up a pizza and a couple dozen chocolate chip cookies on the way. I need a postworkout snack
Get me some ice cream? I ran out :C0 -
I get what you were going for with this post, and I agree. Yeah, it's the person's responsibility to eat healthy but it's still sad that restaurants like this have such an offer, even if it is what the people want.
Where I work, we have a traditional club that's our best selling sandwich. Last week, we came out with a new version of it, double the meat. It's selling like crazy. It's disgusting that we offer it, and more so that people order it. Easily a 1,500 calorie sandwich.
Not sure why everyone's calling you mean or a food snob. I eat badly a LOT, am by no means a 'snob' when it comes to food, and I still think unlimited fries are a terrible idea.0
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