So your eating less crap, but its still CRAP
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Some people don't have "visible abs" as a goal.
Lies! Heresey! She's a witch - burn her!
It's the goal of everyone everywhere to have visible abs for the sake of it and if your diet and training isn't geared towards that you're just not trying hard enough dammit!
Slackers.
That's Queen Slacker to you, plebe! :laugh:
How very dare you Andrew Mitchell!
Your only goal in life is to have abs. You're not fooling anyone you know....
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I don't give a F what other people eat
But if you're not getting the results you want and you find yourself making statements like "at least I'm not eating ____" or "my diet isn't great but it could be worse" or "it's not as bad as I used to be" then it's not much of a mystery0 -
so very true !!!!0
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No one is going to not eat 'crap' FOREVER. Its just not possible for the majority of normal people...
A little crap is better than all crap, it had worked for me and many others, and I will keep it that way, because it keeps my mind in the right place, not constantly thinking I am punishing myself.0 -
Hmmm... I see your point... but I tend towards the "Everything in Moderation" trend of thinking. Many people are unable to do a clean break from ALL junk food.
I think it's a bit unfair to chastise those who are trying and being honest with themselves of what they're eating. You should praise them for actually logging their junk food, no? They're logging that food for accountability.
That's just how I think about the situation.0 -
Ya know, each person eats what they want to eat. The fact of the matter is that its how much you eat....and MFP keeps me aware of how much I am eating and that alone keeps my weight steady. And really...what do you care about waht strangers are eating. I am amzed at the cusssess that many MFP have had and it is alwaysa and inspiration for me.0
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So, if you see a "friends" diary - and it's full of crap, but they are under there cal limit for the day...do you comment? If someone in my list doesn't eat at least a net of 1200 - regardless of what it is they've eaten, I don't feel I can compliment them. I don't think that's healthy. But hey, that's just me.0
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That's funny, many people on here who are in INCREDIBLE shape..... eat icecream and poptarts while posting on this forum....
Get over yourself, you can be fat on tons of healthy food as well as crap.0 -
I've seen some of the diaries that you're talking about. White bread and margarine for breakfast, a Snickers bar and a bag of chips for lunch, etc. I really had no idea people ate like that!0
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Baby steps... simple baby steps... not everyone can go from 3 meals of junk food to 0 junk food over night -- so portion control is better than no control at all... as people get more in to forming better habits, better choices fall in to place as well...
If you don't agree with what the peeps in your friends (pals) list are doing - you have 2 choices: (1) give them some pointers on how they can change things up to be more successful or (2) simply delete them...0 -
Wow! I never thought for one minute that this site would be so back biting! It is the opinion of everyone on here that counts whether you agree or disagree is no reason to be so critical of that persons opinion. Each person does have their own method of attaining their weight loss goals. If some one eats "crap" and that works for them, then so be it. For me personally, I can't. My metabolism and body make up just doesnt allow for me to eat alot of those things. Believe me I would love to and do some times. But my body does not like what they do to me. I posted recently about donuts in the office. This is a regular in my profession. Vendors come to solicit business and they bring goodies in such as chocolates or donuts. I love them both but do not partake for fear of what it does to me. However eating too much of a good thing is not always good for you either. Over indulgence is bad in any aspect. So I am on the fence with the original post and with the other comments. I personally feel to each his own.0
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Some people don't have "visible abs" as a goal.
Lies! Heresey! She's a witch - burn her!
It's the goal of everyone everywhere to have visible abs for the sake of it and if your diet and training isn't geared towards that you're just not trying hard enough dammit!
Slackers.
That's Queen Slacker to you, plebe! :laugh:
It is a generalized statement, abs aren't my goal either but the overall sentiment is I need to eat better to achieve my goals. If I am eating like crap then I'll have to spend twice or three times the amount of time int he gym to offset it.
This thread is basically boiling down to the types of FL people want. Cheerleaders, actual help, social commentary or like minded people.
Some have suggested singling those people out and sending a PM...yet there have been countless threads about the rudeness of "Unsolicited advice" So the OP is staring her observation in the hopes it might some people that are not meeting their goals and haven't put 2 and 2 together yet.
The witch hunt for the OP is just as judgemental as everyone claiming she is.
Well if this thread is about people's FL's then I guess I totally missed the point. I sure didn't get that from the OP.
Having said that, I am generally friends with everyone who has ever asked me to be their friend. I'm not picky. The only people I have removed from my FL are people that quit logging for a long time and have given up. They just clog up my FL.0 -
:You guys are all picking apart a comment to make it about what upsets YOU and missing the point entirely. I guess I know now not to bother with the forums on here. Eat what you want, by all means. Shame on me for caring.
I have lost more than a significant amount of weight as well as added some decent muscle (still working on it obviously) and I've done it by eating what I want through moderation and avoided my eventual downfall due to deprivation. In some cases, it's not just about what you put in your body, but managing your mentality as well, and I do that through moderation. A "clean" diet is not the only way! So grow up! And find something better to do besides poking around in your friend's diaries!
:flowerforyou: Yes God forbid me eat a fiber one browine cuz I PMSing!!!! Get off your high horse!0 -
Wow...you should see the way I USED to eat, then!! :laugh:
ETA: I do get your point, OP. You are concerned that your online friends aren't eating healthfully enough. (Yes, "healthfully" is the correct word, everyone.) It's fine to post your opinion, but I'm surprised that you are upset by the responses you're getting.0 -
Ugh...not another one of these.
if it bugs you, don't be friends with them.0 -
Don't think the poster was judging but trying to help. Some people don't like vegtables & fruits so they fill up on other not so healthy choices that include a lot of processed foods. It will make their weight loss slower but by writing it down & staying under their goal calories it shows they are trying. I know people do not change overnight to eat healthier but will eventually learn with encouragement if they really want to make a change in lifestyle. If it bothers you to see people eating "crap" & none of your encouraging advice works, don't worry about it, just stay friends with those that have good eating habits to encourage you to stay with your own goals.0
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In my experience a lot of people that start out are just trying to lose weight. They are more worried about the calories in their food rather than the nutrients in their food. If they stick around for a while they learn things and slowly start to make better choices and start to focus more on health. Especially when they start shedding weight and seeing how good they look underneath all the fat.
this is the best statement so far! we didnt get fat overnight, therefore, its extreme to expect us to stop eating junk immediately and switch to clean eating. What i have noticed from successful losers is that its a work in progress. For many of us, eating less is a big deal and the 1st step. Once we progress and get more intune with our body i am sure the amount of "crap" that we put in will naturally decrease due to the want decreasing. Losing weight is hard, dont encourage people that all or nothing is the only way. Eating less crap is step one. Along the path, cleaner eating will come. Everyone has their own timeline and path. Did you always eat clean? Are you telling me from day 1 you went from cookies to only clean foods? That is a tough extremity. Some can do it and you may be one of those who can, but most cant and dont want too.0 -
<---- Eats white bread (and dinner rolls) with margarine
YUM!I've seen some of the diaries that you're talking about. White bread and margarine for breakfast, a Snickers bar and a bag of chips for lunch, etc. I really had no idea people ate like that!0 -
Why log in every day and record CRAP. If you want to change your body, CHANGE YOUR DIET!
Maybe they log it every day because they need to see what they're doing to their bodies in order to help them make changes. This is a long term goal and also an expirement for some people. You have no clue what these people are doing and what really goes on in people's minds so... I agree with most the other people, chill the f out.
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That being said, I'd bet that the OP is referring to people in her circle of friends who have stated goals that are not supported by their food choices and/or plans that do not include those food choices. OP has made some good progress based on her avatar pic, so she probably has valid things to say and the fact she cares about the people in her circle to the point she gets frustrated with them for sabotaging themselves means she's a good MFP pal.
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My maint calories are over 4000 calories a day. Dont be hating that i can fit in "crap", still eat more veggies than most and lose weight.0
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Agreed, although a small treat here and there won't harm
Agreed, however many people think that small treat should be at every meal.
I have seen it too (and am guilty of it some days). Like I always say, you can't out exercise a bad diet. :drinker:
Abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym.
Some people don't have "visible abs" as a goal. I'm almost 40 and been married nearly 20 years with two teenagers. Even when I was a teenager and running 3x a week, lifting weights 2x a week, and in the best shape of my life, I wasn't wearing bikinis and showing off my belly to the world. That's *never* been a goal of mine. My goal is to get below 25% BF, not 15 or 18% and I'll bet there are others who feel the same. In fact, the whole "visible abs" thing is pretty over-rated in my opinion.
Seriously, I just want to have the endurance that I had as a kid, to climb stairs without feeling as though I will die, to wear clothes that are 'normal people" size rather than "plus section" size.
It would behoove everyone in this community to consider the fact that we do not all have the same goals. I am pretty sure that if I were so skinny that you could see my abdominal muscles that I would start eating more candy each day! :laugh:
Live and let live! :flowerforyou:
:smokin:
I'm 31, been married 9 years, and the only men I care about impressing with my body are my husband and my doctor, neither of whom care about me being jacked, lifting hard, or having six-pack abs. My husband likes how women looked back in the day, thin but not hard. I happen to like that look, too.
Also, why does it seem like people who go on and on about clean eating and perfect diet guzzle processed protein powder (i.e. CRAP) by the gallon? Have your shake, leave me my sugar.0 -
I had went into the original post diary, and it seems to me that she does not eat 100% clean, I did not know gyro meat was healthy, and I seen days where you did not even post which leads me to believe you prob went out to dinner or had an all out pig day...no one is not perfect including yourself, we all have to learn how to eat better, that is why we are on here and that is why we add friends, we can influence each other..I know if I ate 100% healthy, then I do not think I could have lasted a month and would of ended up binging and turning completely back to my old ways, I have healthy days, I have bad days, and then I have combination days, but when I look at my friends diaries, some influence me to eat better or give me ideas to eat better...So when you can prove that you are 100% no crap in your diet than you can talk about others, but until then, let them do whatever they feel they want to do, its their body, let them deal with it and work it out..0
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my 2 chocolate chip cookies last night were really good :happy: what was this topic about again.....:yawn:0
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Could you define "crap" that they are eating?
Is it like the Papa Johns, Blue Moon Beer, Subway Pizza, Dunkin Donuts, and Pumpkin Pie Ice cream that is in your diary???
Just wondering.0 -
This is funny! lol0
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Mmmmmmmmmmmm, tasty, tasty crap....
Seriously, it's just not that important to me what other people eat. I rarely, if ever, even look at other people's diaries. You have no idea how far they have come from what they used to eat, or even where they want to go. Maybe their goal isn't to eat clean, but just eat less. Good on them for succeeding by THEIR OWN measure, not someone else's. :yawn:0 -
Several years ago, I lost 50 pounds and went from a size 16 to depending on how it was made a 4/6. I did this not by dieting but as a choice to cut out fast food (which is the devil)! I maintained that size for about 2 1/2 years, then I went through a divorce and started dating a man who was a fast food junkie. Needless to say, I started eating fast food again. Well as you can probably guess, I gained 30 of the 50 back that i had lost. When we split up, I quit eating fast food but started working 2 jobs that put me at work some days for more than 16 hours a day. One of those jobs is a bartender, so I am constantly around fried foods. Although I haven't gained anymore weight, I have felt pretty crappy from eating like that. I need vegetables or I do not feel well. I started back trying to be mindful of what I am putting in my mouth 3 days ago. When I got out of bed this morning (on the start of day 3) I had already lost 4.2 pounds. Not only had I lost that weight, I'm not bloated and I'm already feeling better. I'm not starving myself but I am being very aware of what I am eating. With all of this being said, if I want something, I will eat it but I will try to substitute something else out for it. You can not make a change in how you eat and make it permanent if you are constantly wanting something else and denying it.0
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My maint calories are over 4000 calories a day. Dont be hating that i can fit in "crap", still eat more veggies than most and lose weight.
AND he kicks *kitten*0
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