Chubby Trainers & Nutrionists
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So. there are many great real estate agents that don't own houses, coaches that don't play sports, doctors that are not healthy, accountants that are great with other people's money but not their own...
It comes down to being judgmental and stereotyping. Period.
You can, but it doesn't make you right.
Seriously though, all of your examples offer TERRIBLE first impressions. Absolutely, irrefutably, TERRIBLE first impressions. And the underlying theme of the string is, "first...impressions."
I'm not bothered by "chubby" fitness professionals, as a gym-rat-meathead. I'm "offended" by it as a businessman and attorney. It's TERRIBLE marketing.
I think you are confusing first impressions with judgement. You don't allow someone a first impression if you don't give them the opportunity to prove their worthiness before your ego takes over your opinion.
A first impression might be:"They did a fantastic job despite their appearance and what I assumed they could do."
Judgement: "They don't LOOK like they would be good so I'm going to pass on them..."0 -
"Holy crap, WTF happened to your face? Did you mother breed with a wildebeest? Because you're attractive and I would like to propagate my genetic code with you and fondle your naughty bits."
Bahahahahahahahahaha
But no, in all serious, perhaps consider that said "chubby" nutritionist and/or trainer was previously obese and are in the process of getting to a healthy weight? You never know..
what that's a phone in front of his face0 -
I will say, that if I'm paying for someone to give me nutrition or fitness advice....I expect them to be in better shape/health than me.
That said, I did a workout video (free on demand) yesterday...there were only 2 choices yesterday...not sure why and I almost turned it off b/c the gal was "chubby" and I thought, how can she work me out hard???? Can I say, I got my butt kicked and had trouble running a measly 3 miles this morning b/c my legs and bum are SO sore today from so many squats and lunges....OUCH! I will not judge a workout based on the size of the teacher again....but again I would if I were paying.0 -
what that's a phone in front of his face
hey what happened to our Cheating thread? Did it die? Did we fail again?0 -
At my company gym they would not let me bring a friend who is a personal trainer to set me up on a 5 day rotation, (he has won some body building competitions in his past), because they have their own. The lady that came in was not fit and had little passion which made me feel unispired even in the beginning of that new "start". I am sure it would work for some but I need a b1tch like Jillian Michaels yelling and pushing me not Miss Piggy. I feel likeI have to say that I find MANY chubby women attractive so that has not bearing on my decision...0
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Isn't a big part of their job to motivate people? I am going to have a hard time believing in a trainer that doesn't practice what they preach or hasn't practiced it enough yet.
Bottom line. There are some things where you need to practice what you preach. This is one of them.0 -
what that's a phone in front of his face
hey what happened to our Cheating thread? Did it die? Did we fail again?
I found out that thread was cheating0 -
at my work I have a 5'6, 300# female doctor, you know what advice I would take from her? Not a damn thing. If she was a little chubby I'd be fine with it but once you land in morbidly obese you're input is null and void to me. That being said I expect my trainer to be in great shape, their job is to show me how to be in great shape so I do not think this is a horrible request. If your mechanic says he can't make it into work because his car is broken down do you continue to go to him? If your child's teacher sends home a note saying ' you're child needs a gooder grasp of the english language', do you ask them what they mean? If your babysitter asks you if you have seen their kid around today do you let them watch yours? Get all defensive on weight all you want but it isn't unreasonable to want an in shape trainer
So by that logic, the only good coaches are ones who play the game right? I mean, how can a coach be good if he doesn't practice what he preaches...
As a coach and umpire I can tell you that there is a noticeable difference between kids taught by people that love the game but did not play, a person that played high school, a person that played college and someone that played beyond college. No question in the way the game is approached, the drills they do etc.
I consider myself an above average coach for someone that only played high school ball but that is because I have been to clinics, asked questions etc but no way am I as good of a teacher as my friend who is a pitching coach for a single-A pro team.0 -
For me, you practice what you preach. Now if said trainer or nutritionist had a baby recently or was coming off an injury, and was easing back in and getting the weight off, no problem. If they cant jog 1/4 mile without a heart arythmia or passing out- Ill find someone else. For me its kinda like having a Dr that is a smoker. They pound it into you, but cant so the hard work themselves.0
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Weight is not an indicator of health.
You can be heavier AND in better shape then people who weigh significantly less than you do.
Thinness and hardness are not an accurate measure of how healthy/active a person is.
I think it is important for nutritionists and personal trainers to be healthy and active, of course. But I've seen amazing fitness instructors who have "chubby" bodies, and I've seen hardbodied and skinny personal trainers who are completely useless at their job.
The problem is one of perception of health, and the way the (American) media portrays health.
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Well.. I know the first impression counts a lot, but we might have to look further than just appearances, I got a gastric surgery last year, and joined the gym a month after, so this is my anniversary month of working out, I have lost 125lb since then. Well, my point is, my nutritionist is chubby, most would say fat, but she knew exactly what I was going through, so she helped me not only to balance my meals, but to do it in a way I will follow her advice, because she felt what I was feeling. I think that her, being chubby, was a key part of my losing weight process.
BTW, you guys are great! I have been here almost a week and your advices are awesome!
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I am of the belief that in order to better yourself in just about every aspect of life, you seek advice from people who are at a place you want to BE, not on the same journey and not behind you. I'm not going to ask financial advice of my friend who lives paycheck to paycheck-unless that is how I want to live. And I'm not going to ask advice of a trainer/nutritionist who is in worse shape than I am. Yes, they may have knowledge, but if they haven't been able to put it to use to EXCEED where I am currently in my fitness/nutrition lifestyle, then to me the knowledge has no base. Just as the friend living paycheck to paycheck can say things like "Well, don't carry a credit card". That is advice that is sound, but am I going to believe him or someone who actually carries no credit card debt and instead teaches me how to use credit to my advantage?0
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I know a lot of nurses and they are frequently either overweight or smokers. And frankly, I don't blame/judge them, considering the stresses of their job!0
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I wouldnt say it "bothers" me but I definitely notice and and think what you are thinking briefly...but I guess you don't have to practice what you preach! Kind of like a dentist with bad teeth...<<cringe/shiver>>0
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I agree with you 100% which is why myself as a group ex instructor refuse to be out of shape and constantly looking for ways to change my body composition..I dont want a trainer telling me to do something that they arent doing themselves...but I have went to a power sculpt class with an overweight instructor who taught proper form and increasing weights while she held 3-5lb weights in her hand lol :noway: and people loved her but I just couldnt look at her :laugh:0
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Which leads me to my point... Is anyone bothered by "fitness-nutritionist-type-professionals" who clearly do not look the part?
Is it utterly ridiculous to have a "chubby" nutritionist or "flabby" personal trainer?
Or does it fall under the same notion that your heart surgeon doesn't need to have heart disease to be a good cardiologist?
I think it's almost like a cardiologist who smokes. They should know better and it projects an air of incompetence. But in reality it's just human weakness and the cardiologist could be a very knowledgeable and competent doc. Many people know this and give doctors a pass on their bad health habits.
But I say "almost" because for the fitness/nutrition pro it's MUCH worse for business than the doctor example. A fitness pro is much more of a walking advertisement for their business and competence. If a fitness pro is in poor shape than they project the idea that they don't really know the inns and outs of success. One would assume their knowledge is much more likely to be more theoretical than based on real-world experience and success. Of course it's always possible that they're just like the cardiologist example. It's possible their clients are super fit and because of an emotional issue they just can't follow their own advice. But even still how much confidence does that instill?
A chubby fitness/nutrition expert may be more approachable and less intimidating but I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they aren't an "A" player, so the speak. Even if they lost 150lbs. Loosing the first 50lbs isn't exactly the same as loosing the last 10 or 20. This is either knowledge they don't have, or they have distorted ideas about body image or something else keeping them from both being and living as an expert in their field. They might be the person to get things started but not someone you would be wise to rely on too heavily for too long. Sounds harsh? Maybe. I think if you're going to ask for money and be a professional you should operate with and be held to high standards.0 -
This reminds of when I was pregnant and the Dr had me talk to a nutrition specialist who was
1. Obese....not just a little chubby - obese
2. Had McDonalds in her garbage :huh: :noway:
See I had gained 10lbs in one month because, well they said I was eating for 2 and to me that meant TWO GROWN FOOTBALL PLAYERS....I was mistaken in this assumption
So I go to see above woman who lectures me on what I should and should not be eating and how important it is to maintain a healthy weight blah blah blah
I zoned her out....There was NO WAY I could take this woman seriously0 -
For me, it kind of comes down to $$$. I wouldn't have any problem listening to a "heavy" nutritionist or trainer give advice. I'm sure I could learn a lot from people with good training, no matter the size. BUT, if money has to come directly out of my pocket, I want someone who practices what they preach, because they'll also know the effort that it's going to take.0
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This reminds of when I was pregnant and the Dr had me talk to a nutrition specialist who was
1. Obese....not just a little chubby - obese
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So I go to see above woman who lectures me on what I should and should not be eating and how important it is to maintain a healthy weight blah blah blah
I zoned her out....There was NO WAY I could take this woman seriously
When my teenager was seeing an endocrinologist for possible growth problems, the doc insisted we talk with the nutritionist at the clinic, because my daughter was somewhat overweight. The nutritionist, who wasn't much taller than my teen, was significantly overweight. Listening to her tell my daughter to eat a high-carb, low-fat, calorie-restricted diet, and then admit in the next breath that she was having trouble controlling her own weight on that same diet...no, I don't think so.0 -
Not to get all Darwinian here, but let's be honest about the biological imperative (to procreate with attractive members of the species). We can all say that we want to get in shape to 'feel healthier' but there are probably a lot more of us who also want to 'look good' and get an appreciative look from a male member of the species. It reminds us that we haven't been put out to pasture yet. A peacock doesn't go for the neurotic, mottley girl who picks out her feathers; he goes for the one with rich plumage and shiny feathers. We are programmed no differently, only we have big brains that can temper that instinctive first impression with, "well, she's got a great personality/knowledge"---fill in the blank).
I'd like a trainer to have both the knowledge and physical fitness (not skinny or perfect, just in shape) because I, as a female peacock want my feathers to be shiny and smooth just like hers0
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