Water intake, Does Tea count and Coffee???

Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.

rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?

Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.

rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?

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It says the amount of water consumed as 8, 8 ounce glasses of water on the mfp website food diary. My post was based on my own opinion. I am not a medical doctor so I thought it would be helpful to give her other optional educational materials so that she may decide her own opinion. Here is some evidence for you that tea and coffee are considered diuretics.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/BuyingUsingMedicineSafely/UnderstandingOver-the-CounterMedicines/UCM205286.pdf

and another website

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA57092

Thanks

*sigh* I can't seem to open the first link and the second is to some guy trying to sell something. Not a particularly good source. If you look back in the thread, I posted what the Mayo Clinic says about caffeine. It is not what that guy says.

And notice the Mayo Clinic link you posted (and I see you edited your original post) says, "Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total."

How about stating something as opinion rather than fact when it is only an opinion?

My advice is to take everything as an opinion unless you have Scientific evidence as in a case study or what not or have proof of a degree certifying your knowledge in a particular subject, especially considering anyone can post on this Topic Review. I think you would have to be pretty naive to believe every single thing someone posted to be a fact without taking any consideration of anything for yourself. That is weird I was able to copy and paste the exact website and it pulled up just fine, and the second website is actually a medical provider and the resource I posted was actually published. My post was to try to help someone and she could have taken it however perceived. I am not going to go through and see what everyone else has posted and base my opinion on that. I have my own mind and did my own research and posted MY OWN reply. This is supposed to be a website to encourage and help people reach their fitness goals, not fight and bicker back and forth about who is right or wrong or whatever. Take my opinion or dont I dont really care my original advice was to the young lady that was asking. I am sure she has enough to go through and examine for herself anyways. By just reviewing a little of the replys, wow, it seems to be such a discouraging forum full of negative comments and drama!

did my own research and posted MY OWN reply.

You later admitted the "research" was that the little "glass" on the food logging page says "8 cups of water."

There are pages and pages and pages here with quotes and links to actual scientfic research and advice from trusted sources that say the opposite of what you posted and instead of reading and learning, you posted false information in the form of your opinion backed up by literally nothing.

When a person comes here with a genuine question, that person deserves an answer that doesn't come from, "Well, I think A because a green whale came down from space and told me so."

"The Panel on Dietetic Products, Nutrition and Allergies from the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA)* has issued a Scientific Opinion on Dietary Reference Values for water where the following reference values for total water intake are considered (see table). Note that the amount of water that is deemed adequate includes water from drinking water, beverages of all kind, and from food moisture and only apply to conditions of moderate environment"


Note that the amount of water that is deemed adequate includes water from drinking water, beverages of all kind, and from food moisture ."

with this criteria- the answer is YES to the op.

Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.

rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?

Ohh you are so funny....if you add milk it becomes milk thinned out with water

So? Why wouldn't it still count?

Here's why I don't count tea and coffee...

Water is just very good for your body, and in my opinion you can't get enough of it. So if I'm just logging the water I drink, and I focus on getting 10-16 cups per day, then any other water I get is just bonus (from food, coffee, tea, milk, etc).

Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.

rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?

Ohh you are so funny....if you add milk it becomes milk thinned out with water

Or water thickened with milk..

ahaha this thread became even funnier!

"So, when you drink water with a meal, what part of the stomach does the water go into so that it doesn't mix with everything else. I don't want my body to confuse the water I drink with any of the other garbage in my stomach. "

the best!

I count my tea as water. I don't drink iced tea or sweet tea. Just hot water and a tea bag. I usually get the caffeine free kind so there are no calories or anything to log so why shouldn't it count as water?

I think the main thing is that you shouldn't log something like an Odwalla smoothie or a milkshake or a frappuccino as water ONLY, because you should be adding the calories. But the frappuccino has like a cup of water in it at least, so from there on out it's whatever you feel like is good and working for you to help you meet your goals. But as the person with the 78 calorie tea points out, you wanna be checking your nutrition labels, even when the food basically never has calories.

This is totally speculative, but I think the thing with tea and coffee, too, is when I drink a coffee I might drink a 20 ounce coffee in half an hour or so. Which, if I drank 20 ounces of water in that time, would cause the same issues. But people have a tendency to drink water more slowly, because it isn't the hot and delicious elixir of life, it is the cold-to-room-temperature and flavorless elixir of life.

This made me happy. Coffee is the hot and delicious elixir of life haha.

Don't be silly - you're supposed to drink water for HYDRATION. Black tea and coffee contain significant amounts of caffeine, which is a diuretic and results in DEHYDRATION. Want to push this to extremes? Vodka is 60% water - want to count that too?

So, does coffee count as water? Only decaf. Same is true for tea, even green tea. Only herbal tea is caffeine free (as opposed to decaffeinated).

Sheesh.

If you drank only coffee and tea, you'd die of old age before you'd die of dehydration.

If you drank only vodka, scotch, and beer the same would be true. But don't tell me that you would be hydrated.

Talked to all 3 Dr's i work for and all say Tea is to count as water. Usually though i just track my tea and coffee with my meals and water intake seperately

Don't be silly - you're supposed to drink water for HYDRATION. Black tea and coffee contain significant amounts of caffeine, which is a diuretic and results in DEHYDRATION. Want to push this to extremes? Vodka is 60% water - want to count that too?

So, does coffee count as water? Only decaf. Same is true for tea, even green tea. Only herbal tea is caffeine free (as opposed to decaffeinated).

Sheesh.

If you drank only coffee and tea, you'd die of old age before you'd die of dehydration.

Coffee and tea cause old age? Oh no!