Paleo eating?

I am currently eating paleo as part of an experiment. Things I have noticed:
As someone with a family, career, and side business, there is absolutely no way I have time for all the cooking/food prep involved (I have two weeks off now, so have time to actually cook every meal, which is awesome).
The food I can make is awesome. I miss carbs, but am getting used to the Keto.
It is REALLY hard to eat at a surplus. I could easily eat 1500 cals per day and be sated. I think this is why many people who suck at self control, calorie tracking, and portion control start losing weight on this diet. I can down 3000 calories in a carb heavy meal, and have not been able to hit 3000 calories in a DAY on this diet, even doing things like adding ghee to my coffee etc.

I think most "paleo" people are pretty ignorant about both health/nutrition and about their own diet, but have met some who are extremely knowledgable.. I think the ignorant fanboys give the movement a bad rep.

Some things that I think are vital in recreating an ancestral lifestyle that are ignored by the paleo Taliban crown:
Intermittent fasting
Seasonally appropriate foods (i.e. eat foods that are locally available in your current season)
Climate exposure (sun/heat in summer, cold in winter... The affect metabolism significantly)
Seasonally appropriate Macronutrient intake (summer diet should include more carbs due to higher availability. Winter should be very low carb, rich in animal products, similar to what most people think of when they hear paleo).

I do not think paleo is necessary for exceptional health, just reasonable food intake, exercise, and low meal frequency/regular fasting. I think low-carb diets are overrated, and overused under the mistaken belief that low carb = low insulin. This is completely untrue, and insulin levels are easily controlled via regular fasting and low meal frequency. Also, even if protein produced 0 insulin, you would still get fat at a caloric surplus via the ASP pathway of lipogenesis.

I am trying paleo in the hopes that it will help with some nagging autoimmune issues, which, despite getting my HS CRP down under 1 with IF still seem to be an issue. Result so far have not been positive, but I intend to give it some time.

Edit: pardon typos. Typed on phone, too lazy to fix.

Paleo is not a diet. Please do some research (you might decide that eliminating grains is not for you) and then ask in the Paleo forum. Personally, I have had HUGE health benefits by changing my diet. But lots of people will come on here and trash talk it even though they have never tried it. For me it's about health and the weight loss is a nice side effect but not the primary purpose.

Research and give it a try! It is possible! Lots of opinions but the only one that matters is yours!

If it's not a diet then what is it?

If you think so, I suggest you do more research on the so called fat adaptation theory

And I encourage you to look into the energy expenditure difference in the same person who is in a carbohydrate rich diet vs someone who is three weeks into ketogenisis. I only know of one place and that's some guy at the eating academy. I have no clue if he is an LOL or legit but seems to have taken the time and got his own machine to measure vo2max in both states.

I would LOVE for a great semi conclusive study to be made that isn't biased, but for now, it really does seem to work for my snowflake. I have nothing else to ever add to it.

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

Yes, I am a "special snowflake", by your standards, and so are other people that have experienced the same health improvements from a paleo/primal lifestyle. Stick to what YOU know. I did many years of low fat calorie counting and in return, I developed a body that became very effecient at NOT burning calories.

Please enlighten us. Are you currently eating at a surplus and losing weight? Or do you just wave your magic wand and the lbs melt away?

Yup, that's exactly what I do. When one is no longer sick, it's amazing what can be achieved. Supernatural powers; at least against illness, obesity, and eating disorders. (did I say I am currently eating a surplus? Pretty sure that I claimed no such thing... love the lack of logic used to try to discredit others... LOL)

I am pretty sure the question mark at the end of "Are you currently eating at a surplus and losing weight?" means it was a question. My original post was also directed toward the person who actually created the thread so I'm not sure why you decided to answer about yourself seeing as I don't care about YOUR answer. I've seen you all over every paleo thread, I know your opinion on it. LOL. So I'm not sure where you're coming up with the "lack of logic" I used.

I was unaware that I am sick. I didn't know I has illness, obesity, and eating disorders. Learn something new every day. :flowerforyou:

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

Yes, I am a "special snowflake", by your standards, and so are other people that have experienced the same health improvements from a paleo/primal lifestyle. Stick to what YOU know. I did many years of low fat calorie counting and in return, I developed a body that became very effecient at NOT burning calories.

So you're losing weight now, on Paleo, while also eating a calorie surplus?

Nope I eat in a calorie deficit because i no longer have UNCONTROLLABLE HUNGER, bingeing, chronic pain, fatigue, etc etc etc. Is it even possible to over eat on a ketogenic form of paleo/primal? Because as long as I keep my carbs low, I don't overeat, without even trying not to. Go figure. So, no, I can't stay in a calorie deficit when I am eating lots of unhealthy food. Imagine that.

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

Yes, I am a "special snowflake", by your standards, and so are other people that have experienced the same health improvements from a paleo/primal lifestyle. Stick to what YOU know. I did many years of low fat calorie counting and in return, I developed a body that became very effecient at NOT burning calories.

So you're losing weight now, on Paleo, while also eating a calorie surplus?

Nope I eat in a calorie deficit because i no longer have UNCONTROLLABLE HUNGER, bingeing, chronic pain, fatigue, etc etc etc. Is it even possible to over eat on a ketogenic form of paleo/primal? Because as long as I keep my carbs low, I don't overeat, without even trying not to. Go figure. So, no, I can't stay in a calorie deficit when I am eating lots of unhealthy food. Imagine that.

So, when you were calorie counting and eating low-fat you were binging and eating a surplus and not losing, now you are not bingeing and are eating a deficit and are losing. That doesn't really = special.

You had cravings that you felt unable to control. Now you've found a way of eating that eliviates the need to control the cravings, which makes this diet a good fit for you.

I agree. I am not special at all. But some people want to call me a "special snowflake" and now I'm embracing the idea.

The bingeing and craving did not develop until after years of low fat/low calorie dieting. At times, in my youth, it seemed that I was being "successful" counting calories and portion controlling for short period of times. But over time, it damaged my health and I have done 20 years of personal experiments to explore what I eat versus exercise versus weight loss. No, I didn't "feel" unable to control cravings. I AM unable to control cravings when eat certain kinds of foods. It's not about control and lack of willpower, but nice try.

Nice passive aggressiveness, by the way. But if it makes you feel better to think that I choose this lifestyle due to my perceived lack of control, then so be it. :drinker:

Edit: I think that you weren't trying to be passive aggressive possibly, but you did make light of my experience and tried to attribute it to issues of control, or lack of. Craving, binging, depression etc are just as physiological as the other medical issues I have resolved. It's not psychological or merely a matter of willpower for me and many others. Really.

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

Yes, I am a "special snowflake", by your standards, and so are other people that have experienced the same health improvements from a paleo/primal lifestyle. Stick to what YOU know. I did many years of low fat calorie counting and in return, I developed a body that became very effecient at NOT burning calories.

So you're losing weight now, on Paleo, while also eating a calorie surplus?

Nope I eat in a calorie deficit because i no longer have UNCONTROLLABLE HUNGER, bingeing, chronic pain, fatigue, etc etc etc. Is it even possible to over eat on a ketogenic form of paleo/primal? Because as long as I keep my carbs low, I don't overeat, without even trying not to. Go figure. So, no, I can't stay in a calorie deficit when I am eating lots of unhealthy food. Imagine that.

So, when you were calorie counting and eating low-fat you were binging and eating a surplus and not losing, now you are not bingeing and are eating a deficit and are losing. That doesn't really = special.

You had cravings that you felt unable to control. Now you've found a way of eating that eliviates the need to control the cravings, which makes this diet a good fit for you.

I agree. I am not special at all. But some people want to call me a "special snowflake" and now I'm embracing the idea.

The bingeing and craving did not develop until after years of low fat/low calorie dieting. At times, in my youth, it seemed that I was being "successful" counting calories and portion controlling for short period of times. But over time, it damaged my health and I have done 20 years of personal experiments to explore what I eat versus exercise versus weight loss. No, I didn't "feel" unable to control cravings. I AM unable to control cravings when eat certain kinds of foods. It's not about control and lack of willpower, but nice try.

Nice passive aggressiveness, by the way. But if it makes you feel better to think that I choose this lifestyle due to my perceived lack of control, then so be it. :drinker:

Edit: I think that you weren't trying to be passive aggressive possibly, but you did make light of my experience and tried to attribute it to issues of control, or lack of. Craving, binging, depression etc are just as physiological as the other medical issues I have resolved. It's not psychological or merely a matter of willpower for me and many others. Really.

I was not trying to be passive aggressive. But I do not believe there is any such thing as an uncontrollable craving. Sometimes when there is a bag of Cheetos around, I am not able to control my urge to eat the whole bag. But this is purely my lack of sef control. Were I physically restrained and unable to eat the Cheetos, I would suffer no ill effects, other than mood and possibly hunger (if I were really hungry at the time). And I don't believe you would have with whatever you were craving either. There was nothing physically forcing food into your mouth just because you craved it.

That is not meant to be agressive, passively or not. Most people who have had a weight problem at some time have food weeknesses. Some are stronger than others. But the fact that you did at some point stop eating these things pretty much proves that you could.

Eating a calorie deficit is good for weight loss

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

Yes, I am a "special snowflake", by your standards, and so are other people that have experienced the same health improvements from a paleo/primal lifestyle. Stick to what YOU know. I did many years of low fat calorie counting and in return, I developed a body that became very effecient at NOT burning calories.

You are indeed a special snowflake if you think the energy balance equations don't apply to you.
What do you think your body burns in the place of calories?