Paleo eating?

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

This statement is not accurate.
As someone who is insulin resistant, I could eat at a calorie deficit by consuming mostly sugary carbs and I won't lose a pound. I will gain- a lot. I am interested in being healthy, so sugar is not my choice of fuel and I am more focused on proper nutrition. That being said, the QUALITY of the calories is just as important as the QUANTITY . ALSO- a very important point needs to be made. TOO much calorie deficit and the weight loss will also stop. Our bodies are efficient and will conserve energy. To disregard the impact of hormones and metabolic damage is unfair and unwise. The general premise that a caloric deficit is necessary is true- but it is not the WHOLE truth.
I am a bit shocked at how snarky some people are here. I thought this was a place for support. If this fat loss journey was easy, we'd all be at our goals in no time. Let's be supportive of all snowflakes.

On the Paleo topic-- Paleo and Primal can be very healthy ways to live. I find they help break sugar cravings/addictions. You will need to cook but there are many places to get great recipes. Many you can just throw in a slow cooker and come back to with little effort. Any goal worth achieving takes effort. Maybe you need to try something new? Everyone has their own struggles. You have to decide what things you are willing to change to reach your goals.

I personally spent ALOT of money each week on food. It was nice to follow, I did it for about 3 months, but it was not something I could stick with long term. I did not see much weight loss either.

Now that you throw an hour of exercise in the mix you are changing the rules. I would have serious issues and be non-functional on that plan. 600 cals of sugar plus that much physical activity would burn up any muscle I had and I would be a very unhealthy individual. My blood sugar would be so whacked out. Without exercise and just eating 600 calories of sugar- that would be a toss up if I lost. I have gone that low on calories before and it didn't end well.
I apologize. I thought we were working with healthy ideas and facts for fat loss. Your plan would have disastrous results.
And I didn't say it wasn't true- just not totally accurate. Caloric deficit is not the whole story.

I'll go back to logging my info and ignoring the message boards.

Do what you want and not what some rand-ars on the internet think is best.
I love paleo, but you gotta want it to stick to it.

You are not accepting that my experience is my experience. I'm not talking about "normal" craving and bingeing is never normal. It has nothing to do with willpower. This is why I comment on paleo/primal threads, because I have experience with this lifestyle (more primal at the moment) and because many paleo/primal experts, including some doctors, have actually explained why over-eating is NOT just willpower or lack of, but physiological. Fine if many people don't agree, but this thread asked for opinions from people who have experience with this lifestyle. It would be great if people who think it is stupid, a fad, dangerous, or whatever, based on no first-hand experience would go amuse themselves with posts that fit with their own philosophies.

Please don't put words in my mouth (or keyboard). I never said the diet is stupid or dangerous. There is no need to have experience with the paleo diet to know about what happens when NOT eating a paleo diet, which is what we were discussing. If you can, without becoming upset or irate, would you tell me where to find the explanations from medical professionals explaining why overeating is physiological? But if it upsets you then please don't bother.

**edited to remove some of the quotes due to length.

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

Then what on earth are you doing here?!

Edit: read posts about it - ignore

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

This statement is not accurate.
As someone who is insulin resistant, I could eat at a calorie deficit by consuming mostly sugary carbs and I won't lose a pound. I will gain- a lot. I am interested in being healthy, so sugar is not my choice of fuel and I am more focused on proper nutrition. That being said, the QUALITY of the calories is just as important as the QUANTITY . ALSO- a very important point needs to be made. TOO much calorie deficit and the weight loss will also stop. Our bodies are efficient and will conserve energy. To disregard the impact of hormones and metabolic damage is unfair and unwise. The general premise that a caloric deficit is necessary is true- but it is not the WHOLE truth.
I am a bit shocked at how snarky some people are here. I thought this was a place for support. If this fat loss journey was easy, we'd all be at our goals in no time. Let's be supportive of all snowflakes.

On the Paleo topic-- Paleo and Primal can be very healthy ways to live. I find they help break sugar cravings/addictions. You will need to cook but there are many places to get great recipes. Many you can just throw in a slow cooker and come back to with little effort. Any goal worth achieving takes effort. Maybe you need to try something new? Everyone has their own struggles. You have to decide what things you are willing to change to reach your goals.

That's not exactly true. Even with insulin resistance, you will lose weight eating at a calorie deficit. You just have to know what a calorie deficit is. You will not gain weight at a calorie deficit.

Hmm, it really depends. I've never heard of a medical condition that would allow fat gain while on a deficit, but it is possible to have weight gain due to something other than fat while eating a deficit. If the deficit is large enough and eaten long enough, one would likely eventually lose weight or die, but it really isn't as simple as the statement "eat less, move more" makes it sound for everyone.

No it doesn't depend on anything. If in a deficit, the body will use existing stores of energy for repair and function, no way around it. What people seem to be confused about is that medical conditions may confound the out side of the energy balance equation, which is true, it can be confusing for sure, especially on paper. All metabolic dysfunction is part of the out side of the EBE.

It can help with with weight loss because it tends to focus on higher protein, lower carb, and whole food consumption, so it's likely that it would be more filling that what you're doing now. However, your caloric balance will determine weight loss, rather than food avoidance.

No matter what diet you chose, it's a good idea to learn to cook some basic foods. It's really not that hard.

I agree that you should learn to cook for yourself. If you just go to pre-packaged/prepared meals, you're doing BETTER, but not as good as you could be. That motivates me. I taught myself how to cook and I look for recipes that sound good and try them out. It really isn't that hard and you only need a handful of "essentials" to cook most meals.

Have you heard of Nerd Fitness? When I was first looking into Paleo, I read a handful of his articles.

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/02/21/a-decent-meal/

^that kind of goes over the basics for a Paleo kitchen. He also has a good recipe for Spaghetti Squash that I've used.

I've become a bit of a food snob... even when I do go out to eat the food is never as good as when I just make it myself at home. That's a good thing, I guess! But it takes the "fun" out of the convenience of eating out.

I hope you can find some fun recipes to try!

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

This statement is not accurate.
As someone who is insulin resistant, I could eat at a calorie deficit by consuming mostly sugary carbs and I won't lose a pound. I will gain- a lot. I am interested in being healthy, so sugar is not my choice of fuel and I am more focused on proper nutrition. That being said, the QUALITY of the calories is just as important as the QUANTITY . ALSO- a very important point needs to be made. TOO much calorie deficit and the weight loss will also stop. Our bodies are efficient and will conserve energy. To disregard the impact of hormones and metabolic damage is unfair and unwise. The general premise that a caloric deficit is necessary is true- but it is not the WHOLE truth.
I am a bit shocked at how snarky some people are here. I thought this was a place for support. If this fat loss journey was easy, we'd all be at our goals in no time. Let's be supportive of all snowflakes.

On the Paleo topic-- Paleo and Primal can be very healthy ways to live. I find they help break sugar cravings/addictions. You will need to cook but there are many places to get great recipes. Many you can just throw in a slow cooker and come back to with little effort. Any goal worth achieving takes effort. Maybe you need to try something new? Everyone has their own struggles. You have to decide what things you are willing to change to reach your goals.

That's not exactly true. Even with insulin resistance, you will lose weight eating at a calorie deficit. You just have to know what a calorie deficit is. You will not gain weight at a calorie deficit.

Hmm, it really depends. I've never heard of a medical condition that would allow fat gain while on a deficit, but it is possible to have weight gain due to something other than fat while eating a deficit. If the deficit is large enough and eaten long enough, one would likely eventually lose weight or die, but it really isn't as simple as the statement "eat less, move more" makes it sound for everyone.

No it doesn't depend on anything. If in a deficit, the body will use existing stores of energy for repair and function, no way around it. What people seem to be confused about is that medical conditions may confound the out side of the energy balance equation, which is true, it can be confusing for sure, especially on paper. All metabolic dysfunction is part of the out side of the EBE.

And some people are acting as if fat is the only weight the body carries.

You are not accepting that my experience is my experience.

I can accept that your experience has hijacked almost every thread I've seen on the primal/paleo lifestyle

Excuse me for pissing you off, but I get pissed off that so many people who have no experience with this lifestyle have to come on a thread where someone asks about this lifestyle and bash those of us who actually have EXPERIENCE with this lifestyle.

I feel I have a right to respond to comments that are ignorant, ridiculous, disrespectful and just plain BS. If you don't like it, you can ignore it.

Hijacking is when someone comes on a thread and talks about totally unrelated subject matter. I'm so sick of the misinformation against a healthy way of eating (nope, not the only way) that I feel obligated to call out the BS. If you think I am full of bs, so be it. No need to be rude, condescending and riduculing (re: Lovecraftian god).

Supposedly binge eating, depression, etc are all mental, but strangely, it is widely reported (by first hand experience) that these issues improve or disappear all together when certain foods are eliminated.

Well, certainly craving and the associated binges would disappear if the foods that were craved are eliminated. Alcoholism is a disease with actual physical cravings. If you are referring to something similar with food, then I agree. I believe some people have food addictions, and just like an alcoholic needs to remove alcohol from their diet, these people need to remove that food from their diet.

But, unlike alcoholism or drug addiction, a food addiction is mental. I've never heard of anyone going through physical detox with the sweats and shakes and vomiting they way and alcoholic or drug addict will. That doesn't mean it doesn't take great mental discipline to overcome the craving, and it doesn't make the person weak for having the mental addiction in the first place.

Eating a calorie deficit DOES NOT work for everyone!! Been doing that for years and I haven't lost a pound

This is false. You are not a special snowflake. Calorie deficit = weight loss. You are making a miscalculation somewhere.

No, it isn't false. I know for a fact that I was eating at a huge deficit under a doctor's care and was not losing weight, instead steadily gaining even though I was exercising and following an insanely strict diet at the time.

There are so many other factors that come into play here. I was found to have a pituitary tumor, Diabetes, Thyroid issues, Adrenal Gland Fatigue and PCOS.

No matter how much or how little I ate the weight would not go anywhere.

Stop generalizing - there are far more people out here like this than you know of.

I'd get your facts straight. If you truly were burning more energy then you expended, where did the fat come from?

Oh my facts are straight. These words have come straight from the mouth of a Metabolic Endrocrinologist that treated me for Adrenal Gland Fatigue, Hypothyroid and the pituitary tumor.

If you think for one second that hormones being imbalanced don't have a lot to do with why a lot of people can not lose weight despite exercising like crack heads and eating very strict, then you really don't know anything, so stop being such a poser.