Help! Aggressive dog and newborn

Why wait until your'e 8months pregnant to deal with this? This aggression sounds like it's built up over a long period, not the past few months...??

Anyway, it's not attacking. In fact: It's defending the rights of innocent children/pets/humans who might come in contact with this dog before or even during this 'rehabilitation' which you say is possible... I am doubtful.

I don't mean to attack you and i've tried to be respectful but clearly, you have made up your mind. So, when/if your dog, either in your ownership or elsewhere bites/mauls/kills someone, don't blame anyone else.

I thought you were done like 3 pages ago? She's getting rid of the damn dog. Did you not see that? I think she mentioned it 5-10 times.

If "she's getting rid of the damn dog" then why the thread ?

I am so sorry to hear that you are in this situation. Please try the link below and see if they can help you.

It is possible that the dog may not be an issue in different dynamics, but once you place the dog and they aid you with your situation it will then be their responsibility to do what they feel is best for all concerned.

I read a good bit of this site before offering it to you, and you will be comforted that they too feel that putting a basset down is a last resort. So I hope they can help you with emergency placement and then evaluation, rehab, whatever they feel is best.

I wish you well with everything!

http://www.bassethoundrescue.com/maindefault.htm

Why wait until your'e 8months pregnant to deal with this? This aggression sounds like it's built up over a long period, not the past few months...??

Anyway, it's not attacking. In fact: It's defending the rights of innocent children/pets/humans who might come in contact with this dog before or even during this 'rehabilitation' which you say is possible... I am doubtful.

I don't mean to attack you and i've tried to be respectful but clearly, you have made up your mind. So, when/if your dog, either in your ownership or elsewhere bites/mauls/kills someone, don't blame anyone else.

I thought you were done like 3 pages ago? She's getting rid of the damn dog. Did you not see that? I think she mentioned it 5-10 times.

Read my latest post...I wasn't the one who was saying she was keeping the dog. I accept she's giving it away. To be someone else's problem and possible risk of hurting/killing someone else.

I am so sorry to hear that you are in this situation. Please try the link below and see if they can help you.

It is possible that the dog may not be an issue in different dynamics, but once you place the dog and they aid you with your situation it will then be their responsibility to do what they feel is best for all concerned.

I read a good bit of this site before offering it to you, and you will be comforted that they too feel that putting a basset down is a last resort. So I hope they can help you with emergency placement and then evaluation, rehab, whatever they feel is best.

I wish you well with everything!

http://www.bassethoundrescue.com/maindefault.htm

good idea, breed specific rescue is probably the best option, second to a relative or someone that you trust that understands the dynamic of the situation. unfortunately no one is probably going to love the dog as much as you do, but maybe you'll get lucky, hard to say.

I just want to remind you all that she is EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT.
She is now beside herself because of the blatant lack of respect on this thread.

You can stop fighting amongst yourselves and attacking her for not agreeing with your perspective.

She is not keeping the dog.
She is against putting any animal down that can be saved.

Aggressive dogs can be trained with the right trainer. Fact.

She asked for guidance.

Try not to be so rude.

Thinking about whether or not you can rationally deal with other peoples opinions should be the first thing a person thinks about before they ask a question on the Internet. Sure some of us have been sarcastic but that comes with the territory. If a person can not deal with opinions that go against thier own.... they probably should not partake in group discussion... pregnant or otherwise.

Or just maybe some people could just just a wee little bit of tact, whether they're being just plain sarcastic or otherwise.

Goes both ways, bub.

So instead of saying to shoot the dog I should have had more tact and said "put it down" ?

That makes no sense to me considering she got wound up when other people suggested that as well. This thread is a no-win for people who have opinions that differ from hers.

When your dog bites your baby (or kills him/her) or attacks the neighbor's child (or kills him/her) you will go to jail and your children may very likely be taken away. You have been warned so many times that at this point it will amount to criminal negligence or manslaughter depending on the laws of your state. Bassets are very strong dogs and though, not usually aggressive, they are more than capable of killing a small child. Then, if its the neighbor's child, the civil suit will follow. You will very likely lose your home. If you have any sense whatsoever you will put the dog down.

Oh jesus. I am not keeping him, my child is not born yet. I am not putting him down. I do not need to hear that I am negligent or he will even be near my child. It isn't going to happen. You sir, are an *kitten*.

He is going you HIS opinion.. That does NOT make him an *kitten*?

Are you a psycho ?

Let me summarise my point:

1. Yes, you are not keeping him so your child and your family and immediate neighbours are safe.
2. You want to rehome him either with or without some training (which until now hasn't worked multiple times)....
3. So then, he can hurts someone else's children/animals?

Is that right? How is that not negligent? If I were you, I'd read the statutes for your state on this issue**... you are still responsible because the dog is a known and documented aggressive dog with biting... even if it's rehomed, if it attacks, it'll be your problem.
That was the point the gentleman was trying to make who you called an *kitten*. And we are insulting and offensive? I've not used curses. I don't have to, because I'm using LOGIC.

** http://dogbitelaw.com/legal-rights-of-dog-bite-victims-in-usa/one-bite-states-and-mixed-dog-bite-statute-states.html

When your dog bites your baby (or kills him/her) or attacks the neighbor's child (or kills him/her) you will go to jail and your children may very likely be taken away. You have been warned so many times that at this point it will amount to criminal negligence or manslaughter depending on the laws of your state. Bassets are very strong dogs and though, not usually aggressive, they are more than capable of killing a small child. Then, if its the neighbor's child, the civil suit will follow. You will very likely lose your home. If you have any sense whatsoever you will put the dog down.

Oh jesus. I am not keeping him, my child is not born yet. I am not putting him down. I do not need to hear that I am negligent or he will even be near my child. It isn't going to happen. You sir, are an *kitten*.

Great ad hominem attack. Talk to your own lawyer if you don't want to believe this one.

For the record: This does not equate legal advice and I am not giving you legal advice.

Sm1zzle. You are an idiot. Drag your *kitten* to another forum where you're not being a bullying loser...trying to call out an emotional 8month pregnant woman by calling her pyscho and a liar. This isn't gradeschool. You can get your opinion across in thoughtful sentences.

Its an incredibly hard decision for her, ever think she just needed some back up reinforcement to say yeah, sucks but he DOES need a new home?

She got offended at her being negligent comments. Know how to read or better yet interpret?

Sm1zzle. You are an idiot. Drag your *kitten* to another forum where you're not being a bullying loser...trying to call out an emotional 8month pregnant woman by calling her pyscho and a liar. This isn't gradeschool. You can get your opinion across in thoughtful sentences.

Its an incredibly hard decision for her, ever think she just needed some back up reinforcement to say yeah, sucks but he DOES need a new home?

She got offended at negligent comments. Know how to read or better yet interpret?

Bully ? C'mon now that's silly

Calling me names like an immature child s not going to change anything.

Please do not put the dog down.. it's not his fault. I don't know where you are located but use this link to obtain the information you need. You can also contact them to find the nearest Basset Hound Rescue to you. I don't mean to sound critical, but you could have prevented any aggression if you had taken the time to do proper training with the dog. You should have taken action at the very first signs of aggression, if that is in fact, what it is. There are many reasons dogs appear aggressive but are not. And yes, I have trained many dogs in my lifetime and guess what.. the dogs behavior is ALWAYS the owners fault. Take the time to learn about the breed, it's needs and training required before making a purchase.

http://www.bassethoundrescue.com/maindefault.htm

"Snapping is a control response. In most cases, you have to look at root cause. Ok - the dog snapped. Was it because I was playing to aggressively? Was I moving the food bowl during feeding? Many times, it is our fault, but we still want to blame the dog because we as humans do not like to be in the wrong. Bottom line is growling, snapping, and biting can all be corrected. The question is are you willing to take the amount of time needed for the correction. Make a good choice. "

Perhaps you missed the fact the OP said she was a certified trainer?

As well as:
OP implied she is a certified trainer, yet still failed to stop the behavior
She said the dog has bit her multiple times (once in the face!)
Bit the BF twice now
Attacked the other two dogs
Tried attacking a young 3 year old girl next door!
3 other trainers have failed with this dog
Medication made it worse

At what point do you weigh the safety of others over this dog? Seriously...

Trust me, if your dog attacked my child, I'd sue the pants off you and use this thread as evidence.

You cannot realise how horrible it is for a child to be attacked by a dog. I had nightmares for years and still am scared of dogs. The owner did what you are doing and made excuses for the dog (It didn't maul, it just bit, but you provoked it --I was riding a bike at the time, the dog chased me...I did nothing to provoke it)... I will never forgive the selfishness of that owner.

It's as bad as parents who have weapons in the reach of their already disturbed children to me. I can and will only ever blame the owners and not the dogs but the dogs will have to pick up the tab for the owners selfish and unreasonable behaviour.

Certified by whom? Certifications can mean jack squat. Petco and Petsmart trainers are "Certified" and I certainly would not take my dog there for obedience training because it takes nothing for them to be certified. Anyone that can read can learn obedience training in less than a day, the real training comes when you learn how to do behavioral training and behavior training is a skill and an art which takes time to learn .

Like I said, re-home this dog (in case it was miss-implied in my first post, this dog should obviously NOT be around children) but make sure to find someone that knows what they're doing. It's called a responsible owner that would never allow this dog around children, and yes, that is also possible. And to the OP, I'm not saying that you're not responsible, I'm just making the case that yes, this dog can be re-homed with someone that knows how to handle aggressive dogs, fix the problem, and not allow there to be children around, and if there are children around the person would not allow contact between the dog and child. I have an "Aggressive breed," a German Shepherd that I do not allow around children unsupervised and I do not allow other people to pet him unless they ask me first. I put aggressive breed in quotations because many people label GSDs as aggressive. He is not at all aggressive and doesn't have any major issues (He has quirks but none that I am worried about turning into a liability for me). My point being here is that there are people that make sure their dog's are not allowed to be put in situations where something could happen, lets called it a "Controlled environment" that's what I like to have my dog in at all times. I don't allow him or other people to have any choices, I make all the choices and my dog and other people must have my permission before they have a choice. My example for that is my dog must do something for me before he gets to go outside to use the bathroom, he has to do something before I will pet him, he's not allowed on my bed unless I tell him he can and he does something before I say he can (Sit, lay, ect.) People must have my permission before they are allowed to touch my dog and I must tell my dog to sit and then lay down/ I never let anyone touch my dog unless he is in the down position first, especially with children. And my dog never goes out the door without a leash on and never first. I walk out first and go in first.

Oh, and yes, I realize how horrible it is for a dog to attack a child because I was attacked by a dog when I was 6, (Bitten in the neck) and by all dogs a miniature poodle. I had to go to the E.R because the bite was pretty deep. I don't know that I can place blame on the owner here because I remember I was messing with this dog and probably making it mad by trying to play with it. There were also no people around, they were somewhere else in the house. I guess my blame would go to the adults for not being in the room with me and not telling me to stop, ah yes, that's where it will go! Honestly I shouldn't have been in the room with a dog by myself at such a young age. My point here is that there is always a reason that dog attack, even if it looks like there aren't any signs. There are ALWAYS signs, signs so subtly small that you have to know what you're looking for. This is why I firmly believe that not everyone should own a dog. I see it SOOOOO many times with little dogs especially. Little dogs get away with it more because a lot of people see the dog's actions as harmless. No, little dogs are capable of hurting people just as much as big dogs. For heaven sake a dog is a dog and they all have the same psychology. And as for you being chased by a dog while you were on your bike, yes, I think you had every right to place blame on the owner as he didn't have his dog on leash or properly restrained. That is an irresponsible owner.

"It's as bad as parents who have weapons in the reach of their already disturbed children to me" That's really an awkward comparison. I can't teach a gun/weapon whereas I can teach both a dog and a child. I can only teach a child about proper gun/weapon safety and be responsible to keep my guns/eapons locked up (If I can't teach a child about gun/eapon safety and keep them locked up I don't need guns/weapon or children; thus I must be responsible enough to teach my child about how to properly approach a dog and be responsible to train my dog how to act around strange adults and strange children (Strange meaning members outside of my family) Oh and by the way, what do you mean keeping weapons in the reach of "Disturbed" children..... Does that mean disturbed children are going to mess with a weapon more easily than a non "disturbed" child. Curious as to what you mean here exactly

"Trainers" are a dime a dozen. Not all trainers know what they're doing and a lot of them are full of BS. Most dog trainers that actually know what they're doing have a gift for it, meaning it comes natural to them, I don't think I can really explain it, rather you would have to see for yourself and then you would know what I mean.

Ironic...I'm an immature baby for calling names...which I called YOU out for doing. Hmm
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Well it's our mistake then. Shame on anyone who has offered any advice that goes against what she truly wanted. Which "ironically" was help.. said in her own words.

More specific my bad for coming off as a bully after she labeled my opinion as coming from someone who was not a man.

What I'm saying re: parents with guns in the house who are irresponsible with them...

They often say, "Oh no, my child knows the guns are off limits and he/she would never touch them." How can the parent know? No more than a pet owner not knowing how his dog (mostly) will react to a situation... This owner knows the dog is aggressive and attacks...provocation doesn't interest me...I don't care if the dog was poked, whatever,... a well trained dog won't attack unless threatened properly...a bike riding by is not a threat... parents with unsecured guns are responsbile when their children use them to hurt others. Dog owners are also responsible.

Anyway, I mean to say, to me, the dog is a known biter, the owner knows the dog is a biter and passing the dog onto to someone else in the hopes it will be 'cured' of its aggression... it's passing the buck. It could be quite a costly buck for this dog owner.

I applaud the previous poster who explained the strict guidelines used with his/her pets. Fair play.

Good grief! She knows the dog is aggressive. She knows what she needs to do. Perhaps, she doesn't like people's bluntness...but someone will get hurt, and she will be held liable. This post on the Internet perfectly outlines her knowledge of the dog's violent tendencies. Get rid of the dog.