i dont get it
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Splenda as like other artificial sweeters are not great for everyone. Everyone's body is different and reacts to different products in different ways. I worked to adapt a woman's apartment to accomdate her being in a wheelchair. She was overweight and had limited mobility due to MS. Wrong she did not have MS- she was allergic to artificial sweeters. She stopped using them, regained mobility and lost the weight. Just like we have heartburn, gas, rashes because of what we ate we can have other reactions as well. So don't panic over these things just know your body and watch how your body reacts to know what is right for you. And don't condemn others for the foods they eat. Instead point out and encourage healthier options. Hope this helps.0
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oops- did not mean to post here- still learning how to do this0
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Just read the whole damn thread looking for attempted justification of the diet coke, or at least an acknowledgement of the hypocrisy.
op:
Don't act like people are attacking you when you started a thread attacking everyone who makes different food choices than you.
If Splenda were going to kill me, it would have done it by now. I'm sure I've eaten at least my weight in it. Also, are spelling and grammar poisonous too? Not utilizing them sort of undermines whatever you're saying about as much as what you're saying undermines what you're saying.0 -
I do feel bad, not specifically on this website, but in general, seeing people eat things that they think are healthy that are actually not. I feel less bad seeing people eating things that they KNOW is crap. It's willful ignorance. Eventually they'll figure it out, or not, but either way, it's not my problem.
"it's not my problem."
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I just get on here to look at pics of HOT GIRLS, But that's bad for you also, So sayeth the wife!!0
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Definitely. Someone is having a field-day! :-D
But AblazeRiver's post is my favourite - beautifully informative and tongue in cheek all together. :-D0 -
Did someone say Journey?0
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More healthy =/= perfectly healthy. In a perfect world, all our food would be organic and pure and lovely, but the majority of us live in an imperfect reality where we make compromises every day to try to meet our nutritional needs while staying within a budget, cooperating with friends and family, meeting the demands of a busy schedule, etc. For many people, an all-or-nothing mentality is an invitation to failure: "Well, I had a Twinkie, so now everything is ruined and I might as well just eat a whole bucket of fried chicken." For a lot of folks, being able to be more healthy without expecting 100% perfection is the only way to make a lifestyle change that will stick.
I agree with this. Most of us are here with a past of very unhealthy choices. We can't be expected to just flip a switch and all of sudden be perfect. I find I fail when I try to make too drastic of a change. I had to start small....and I'm honestly still in the small changes stage, but at least it's something I can stick with. I think a lot of people can relate to that. You can't just shake up your whole life and be a brand new person the next day. It takes time....lots of time.0 -
People have a choice to make. Everything is not bad for you food wise but if ingested in huge quanities can become a bigger issue. People have all kinds of reasons/excuses for being in the situations they are in. Sometime you don't realize how OUT OF CONTROL you are til its to late. No matter how much you tell people drugs are bad for you and ruin your life, yet people are getting hooked anyway. I believe everything begins with a mindset. I thought I was going through withdrawals when I had to give up all my fast food, snackes and soda. Food has become America's comfort.0
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Get over it0
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Doesn't bother me any whatever. Ill just continue to talk to my friends, none of who have any type of ed, who feel the same. So just curious, what's their problem then?
that they have you as a friend.
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all im trying to say is that there is always a natural better alternative. i never said cut out all sugar, or dont eat fats. make it be good fats,there are plenty. i just had a piece of chocolate, but a natural one. at 88% for more of a health bennifit. i get treats all the time form the natural market down the street, cookies and cupcakes that are made from unbleached unprocessed items.
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That's weird I said friends and you assume I mean here. I have a very large group of friends, I'm talking a out real life, which it looks like some people need. Honestly what does my having stretched ears have to do with anything?Doesn't bother me any whatever. Ill just continue to talk to my friends, none of who have any type of ed, who feel the same. So just curious, what's their problem then?
They probably, LIKE YOU, spend too much time worrying about everyone else.
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Finally the dieting problem has been resolved!!!
1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
CONCLUSION:
Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Awesome
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Wow the OP sounds like a condescending and insanely hypocritical person. I love how she has an excuse for all her imperfections. What a judgmental beeeeeeeeeezy.0
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hahaha
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More healthy =/= perfectly healthy. In a perfect world, all our food would be organic and pure and lovely, but the majority of us live in an imperfect reality where we make compromises every day to try to meet our nutritional needs while staying within a budget, cooperating with friends and family, meeting the demands of a busy schedule, etc. For many people, an all-or-nothing mentality is an invitation to failure: "Well, I had a Twinkie, so now everything is ruined and I might as well just eat a whole bucket of fried chicken." For a lot of folks, being able to be more healthy without expecting 100% perfection is the only way to make a lifestyle change that will stick.
Perfectly said!0 -
I am having my coffee with an EXTRA packet of Splenda this morning in honor of this thread! :drinker:0
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YES, fast foods are linked with cancer. YES, artificial sweeteners are associated with cancer. Want to know what else has toxins with either an equal (or higher) chance of causing cancer/health complications?
-food dye
-x rays
-asprin
-ibuprofen/advil
-acetomenophine/tylenol
-the air you breathe if you are within 500 miles of an urban area
-cigarettes
-asbestos
-genetics
-exposure to certain animal dander
-HPV
-eating red meat in general
-alcohol
-over exercising
-driving a car
-keeping a cell phone in your pocket (cervical/testicular cancer especially)
-FM and AM radio waves
-walkie-talkies
-plasma screens
-LCD screens
-bubble baths
-the Sun
-burnt food
-food cooked on a grill
-food cooked on a gas stove
-anything related to microwaves
-aluminum foil
-most antibiotics
-coal
-coca cola (and all sodas)
-estrogen/post menoposal therapy
-oral contraceptives
-formaldehyde
-leather dust
-salted fish
-silica gel (even when found in packets inside your shoes!)
-ANYTHING involving body work on cars/bikes/planes/boats/etc
-Insufficient activity levels
-hair dye
-spray-on sunscreen
-hairspray
-perfume
-most household cleaning agents (bleach, ammonia, etc)
I could go on for hours. My point is, everything (in excess) will kill you eventually. eat what you enjoy, pay attention to your calories and macromolecules AND ENJOY WHATEVER THE **** YOU WANT AS LONG AS IT FITS THESE TWO PARAMETERS.
I encourage everyone who agrees to add me as a friend. I am a nursing major and slightly obsessed with nutrition.
thank you, MFP. GOODNIGHT.
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you have to actually look. theirs plenty of debate but your not going to find it on fox or cnn.Didn't know there was a fluoride debate. I thought it was needed for healthy teeth. It's been added to the water I've been drinking for over 40 years, but never heard of a debate.
That's because there's no good science behind it, just a lot of fear-mongering.
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Well, OP hasn't deactivated her account, so there's more coming.0
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Judging a person doesn't define who they are, it defines who you are!:drinker:0
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Well, OP hasn't deactivated her account, so there's more coming.
At first, this thread was mildly entertaining, but now......There are always differences of opinion and some big ones on here and when it gets to the point where you are trying to purposely push someone off the site I think it is getting out of hand. Most of us may not agree with the OP but not responding at all to her comments is more of a statement than this. I'm almost 50 and I feel like I'm back in high school.
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there are a lot of things I don't understand in life, the important thing is to not judge. everyone has their own journey. if being healthy was so easy, then none of us would be here.0
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YES, fast foods are linked with cancer. YES, artificial sweeteners are associated with cancer. Want to know what else has toxins with either an equal (or higher) chance of causing cancer/health complications?
-food dye
-x rays
-asprin
-ibuprofen/advil
-acetomenophine/tylenol
-the air you breathe if you are within 500 miles of an urban area
-cigarettes
-asbestos
-genetics
-exposure to certain animal dander
-HPV
-eating red meat in general
-alcohol
-over exercising
-driving a car
-keeping a cell phone in your pocket (cervical/testicular cancer especially)
-FM and AM radio waves
-walkie-talkies
-plasma screens
-LCD screens
-bubble baths
-the Sun
-burnt food
-food cooked on a grill
-food cooked on a gas stove
-anything related to microwaves
-aluminum foil
-most antibiotics
-coal
-coca cola (and all sodas)
-estrogen/post menoposal therapy
-oral contraceptives
-formaldehyde
-leather dust
-salted fish
-silica gel (even when found in packets inside your shoes!)
-ANYTHING involving body work on cars/bikes/planes/boats/etc
-Insufficient activity levels
-hair dye
-spray-on sunscreen
-hairspray
-perfume
-most household cleaning agents (bleach, ammonia, etc)
I could go on for hours. My point is, everything (in excess) will kill you eventually. eat what you enjoy, pay attention to your calories and macromolecules AND ENJOY WHATEVER THE **** YOU WANT AS LONG AS IT FITS THESE TWO PARAMETERS.
I encourage everyone who agrees to add me as a friend. I am a nursing major and slightly obsessed with nutrition.
thank you, MFP. GOODNIGHT.
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Everybody calm down. The OP was stating things simply how she sees them.....or maybe she was hoping to get an answer for something she was struggling with herself and asked in a way she thought would get a good response or debate going. Who knows (maybe this was answered, I didn't feel like reading through 17 pages of responses to find out).
Anyway, I know a few people who are like this. It works for them, makes them feel good about what they are putting in their bodies, trying to keep up with all the latest "warnings" and "disclaimers", etc. and so forth. Good for them, if that works for them, fine. Not my game, not my game at all.
I eat red meat, have a couple beers every night, swing through fast food every now and then (and I'm gonna get crushed for this, but yes, I still smoke......thats a whole other issue). I do things that I know are bad for me, but I enjoy them and I've learned over the past several, several years of yo-yo-ing, that if I try to quit everything all at once and go 100% in, I end up frustrated, failed, and falling back into my old habits even deeper than I was when I first started to try and change. For me, its about moderation, moderation, moderation. For example, just a few months ago I was eating fast food about every day for lunch. I was drinking 6-8 beers a day on average probably. I was doing no exercise whatsoever.
I don't want to avoid foods that had pesticides applied to them while they were growing (I've been in a natural goods warehouse, and witnessed the bugs crawling all over everything. I'd rather go with the USDA approved applications to prevent bugs and disease. Am I possibly endangering my health that way??? Maybe. Are those that eat the foods that roaches were crapping all over endangering their health? Maybe. In the end, its just individual choice.
Its like religion....... I have my beliefs, you have yours. As long as we don't proselytize to each other, I'll bet we'd get along just fine.
I'm just sayin.......0 -
Did someone say Journey?
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Let's see... I can run a 5k in under 25 minutes. I can squat 120% of my body weight and bench press 80% of my body weight. My blood pressure and blood work are all good. My weight is smack in the middle of an ideal BMI range and my body fat percentage is in the athletic range. In other words, all signs point to optimal health.
How exactly is having some diet soda, pizza and cookies "bad" for me???0 -
I assume, which i probably shouldnt, that everyone on here is committed to making their lifestyle more healthy and to lose weight that may or may not be needed to. but how can so many people still be eating things that are known to be poisonous. splenda,fast food, its all so bad for you. thats not even getting into the fluoride debate. the point is that people are willingly ingesting things they know to be bad in so many different ways but dont care or realize that this is probably one of the causes to their troubles to begin with. mini rant? yeah. idk someone try shedding a little bit of light because ive been trying to understand this and i just cant.
You are right you should not assume that. A huge percentage of dieters want to lose weight for aesthetic not health reasons, and certainly on the board you have chosen to post on (there is a nutrition board). That is what gets them in the door of the gym in their droves in January, not because they have all suddenly developed a lifestyle health condition or realised how at risk they are.
Many have a very distorted idea about what a healthy diet is and it's based on media not on the science: detoxes, 80/20 rule (most authorities recommend 90/ 10), fasting, chia, diet pills ... Many more fool themselves about what they eat - many time I see people averaging three servings of fruit and veg claim they eat a lot of vegetables. Without meaning to be harsh it sounds like you are using some suspect sources of information to learn about nutrition and dietetics not the published science, there really is no fundamental difference between someone with orthorexic tendencies such as you display and a chronic overeater/ serial fad dieter.0
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