Lost any or all respect for Lance Atrmstrong?

motown13
motown13 Posts: 688 Member
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I think that for a couple years at least, most people believe that he doped up. It's no real shock that it is actually true, but I was sort of surprised that he actually admitted it after all these years of denial.

How has this changed your opinion of him, if at all?

Oops on the spelling, LOL.
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  • perfectingpatti
    perfectingpatti Posts: 1,037 Member
    He's a cheater and a liar.

    His foundation may do great things, but that doesn't take away his character flaws.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    he consistently cheated and ruined people's lives. he also failed test(s). i dont see how anyone can respect him.
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    he consistently cheated and ruined people's lives. he also failed test(s). i dont see how anyone can respect him.

    LOL... how did he ruin anyones life ?
    He has done TONS for people through his foundation.
  • underwater77
    underwater77 Posts: 331 Member
    i lost respect for him a long time ago.
  • georgie_lou
    georgie_lou Posts: 225 Member
    he consistently cheated and ruined people's lives. he also failed test(s). i dont see how anyone can respect him.

    LOL... how did he ruin anyones life ?
    He has done TONS for people through his foundation.

    He consistently tried to discredit other riders, treated people like ****e, blamed others and was generally a horrible person
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    he consistently cheated and ruined people's lives. he also failed test(s). i dont see how anyone can respect him.

    LOL... how did he ruin anyones life ?
    He has done TONS for people through his foundation.


    LOL he has sued multiple people for speaking the truth.
  • lachesissss
    lachesissss Posts: 1,298 Member
    I respect his foundation. But I can't respect him anymore, and I'm saddened by it. It would have been epic to say that all of his wins were honest, and now that the truth has come out I'm not really mad at him, per se. But it is sort of sad to see his cycling dynasty destroyed. It's also a sad way to end a career as an athlete, I think.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    it really is amazing how the Cult of Armstrong still believes his innocence. and even if he admits it on Oprah they will probably say he only did it so he could get past it and that he never really did it.
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    he consistently cheated and ruined people's lives. he also failed test(s). i dont see how anyone can respect him.

    LOL... how did he ruin anyones life ?
    He has done TONS for people through his foundation.


    LOL he has sued multiple people for speaking the truth.

    LOL Whose life did he ruin ?
  • pudadough
    pudadough Posts: 1,271 Member
    Put him on the *kitten* list with Tiger Woods. Different idiocy, same disgust.
  • glennstoudt
    glennstoudt Posts: 403 Member
    physically amazing, morally bankrupt.
    Livewrong would be more appropriate.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    he consistently cheated and ruined people's lives. he also failed test(s). i dont see how anyone can respect him.

    LOL... how did he ruin anyones life ?
    He has done TONS for people through his foundation.


    LOL he has sued multiple people for speaking the truth.

    LOL Whose life did he ruin ?

    LOL the people who he sued. why is this so hard for you to understand? maybe you should stick to the rate the person above you threads? :)
  • carolww
    carolww Posts: 143 Member
    Its a really sad way to end a career. I really really wanted him to be innocent, but sadly it doesn't seem to be the case.
  • DakotaKeogh
    DakotaKeogh Posts: 693 Member
    He competed in an era when players doped. And, they all lied about it. Not saying I condone the doping or the lying. But, I can't lose respect for his accomplishments knowing he was competing against what is likely a fair number of other dopers. I say you put an asterisk on his record, but let it stand.
  • bonniecarbs
    bonniecarbs Posts: 446 Member
    Someone keeps asking how did he ruin anyone's life. I want to know too. Lots of people are cheaters and liars, many the more money they have the more crap they do, but I want to know also whose life he ruined.
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    he consistently cheated and ruined people's lives. he also failed test(s). i dont see how anyone can respect him.

    LOL... how did he ruin anyones life ?
    He has done TONS for people through his foundation.


    LOL he has sued multiple people for speaking the truth.

    LOL Whose life did he ruin ?

    LOL the people who he sued. why is this so hard for you to understand? maybe you should stick to the rate the person above you threads? :)

    LOL I've never heard one single person say that Lance Armstrong ruined their life. It's funny to me that people are witch hunting Lance, when in fact cycling as a whole is a HUGE cesspool for drugging. So in reality he was playing on a level playing field.

    I agree with most though... I lost a lot of respect for the guy because of his lying.
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    He competed in an era when players doped. And, they all lied about it. Not saying I condone the doping or the lying. But, I can't lose respect for his accomplishments knowing he was competing against what is likely a fair number of other dopers. I say you put an asterisk on his record, but let it stand.

    EXACTLY.
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    Someone keeps asking how did he ruin anyone's life. I want to know too. Lots of people are cheaters and liars, many the more money they have the more crap they do, but I want to know also whose life he ruined.

    Others dislike him as a person so they choose any avenue to trash him.
  • cdpark617
    cdpark617 Posts: 316 Member
    I just feel bad, not necessarily for him, but all those who looked up to him. It would gave been nice if he was clean. Just a sad story of our time we hear too often.

    Wish it weren't true.
  • AbbieZabba
    AbbieZabba Posts: 110
    He competed in an era when players doped. And, they all lied about it. Not saying I condone the doping or the lying. But, I can't lose respect for his accomplishments knowing he was competing against what is likely a fair number of other dopers. I say you put an asterisk on his record, but let it stand.

    He's just the one of the few that got caught. Still one of my heroes!
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    He competed in an era when players doped. And, they all lied about it. Not saying I condone the doping or the lying. But, I can't lose respect for his accomplishments knowing he was competing against what is likely a fair number of other dopers. I say you put an asterisk on his record, but let it stand.

    He's just the one of the few that got caught. Still one of my heroes!

    Likewise. He was playing on a level playing field because most of them were doping and he dominated.

    Wish he would not have lied. I understand... but it was totally wrong.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member

    LOL I've never heard one single person say that Lance Armstrong ruined their life. It's funny to me that people are witch hunting Lance, when in fact cycling as a whole is a HUGE cesspool for drugging. So in reality he was playing on a level playing field.

    I agree with most though... I lost a lot of respect for the guy because of his lying.

    LOL then you dont follow sports and this story closely enough. and a lot of the other rides did test positive and got reprimanded because of it. why should Lance be any different? why should he get a pass when others did not? its not a witch hunt if he is guilty.

    seriously though...are you just starting to follow this story now?
  • GiddyupTim
    GiddyupTim Posts: 2,819 Member
    I hate the fact that he had the audacity to sue people who claimed he used banned substances, and that he ruined the reputations of other riders and bullied them. But, I gotta say: You cannot censure him or hate him for using illegal aids. That is how you win in cycling. Always has been; Maybe always will be. Eddie Merckx used Reactivan. Other guys before him used amphetamines. In 1886, there was a rider who died after using cocaine and caffeine. I believe all but one or two of the last 10 Tour de France winners have been caught cheating. You just don't win in cycling without cheating.
    And, we reward the winners. So . . . what do you expect?
  • splashwags
    splashwags Posts: 262 Member
    maybe one positive that will come out of this is that what he shares, may improve the dope testing going forward.
  • freddykid
    freddykid Posts: 265 Member
    Since I won as many titles as him the only respect I give is for what he does outside. But come on cheating doesn't always make a winner. Lots of bikers cheated and never won. Same with Baseball Steroids don't make you hit 71 homeruns in a season. those records stood throughout the steroid era. I
  • Chibea
    Chibea Posts: 363 Member
    He competed in an era when players doped. And, they all lied about it. Not saying I condone the doping or the lying. But, I can't lose respect for his accomplishments knowing he was competing against what is likely a fair number of other dopers. I say you put an asterisk on his record, but let it stand.
    These are my thoughts too. It was a time when most athletes did it. Only the winners got caught.
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    Someone keeps asking how did he ruin anyone's life. I want to know too. Lots of people are cheaters and liars, many the more money they have the more crap they do, but I want to know also whose life he ruined.

    Others dislike him as a person so they choose any avenue to trash him.

    when its found out a guy is a horrible person its easy to trash him.
  • MissJanet55
    MissJanet55 Posts: 457 Member
    He may have ruined lives by pressuring others on his team to dope. I just read an interview with a cyclist who has also been financially ruined by being caught doping (he has to repay all his winnings), and he said there was huge pressure from Armstrong to take drugs.

    I don't think the doping undoes all the good he has done for his charity. Both good and bad can exist at the same time in the same person. I hate the idea that any good I may have done in my life would be completely undone by anything bad I have done. We all are some combination of good and bad, i think, and it must be extremely difficult for people in the public eye who are constantly reduced to black or white.

    I am left really curious about how he got away with it all these years. How did he pass all those drug tests?
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member

    LOL I've never heard one single person say that Lance Armstrong ruined their life. It's funny to me that people are witch hunting Lance, when in fact cycling as a whole is a HUGE cesspool for drugging. So in reality he was playing on a level playing field.

    I agree with most though... I lost a lot of respect for the guy because of his lying.

    LOL then you dont follow sports and this story closely enough. and a lot of the other rides did test positive and got reprimanded because of it. why should Lance be any different? why should he get a pass when others did not? its not a witch hunt if he is guilty.

    seriously though...are you just starting to follow this story now?

    Yes actually I just learned who Lance was today.

    The fact that the other riders got caught has nothing to do with Lance. They were punished based on their own actions. You obviously have a vested hatred for Lance... did he ruin your life because he lied ?
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
    I hate the fact that he had the audacity to sue people who claimed he used banned substances, and that he ruined the reputations of other riders and bullied them. But, I gotta say: You cannot censure him or hate him for using illegal aids. That is how you win in cycling. Always has been; Maybe always will be. Eddie Merckx used Reactivan. Other guys before him used amphetamines. In 1886, there was a rider who died after using cocaine and caffeine. I believe all but one or two of the last 10 Tour de France winners have been caught cheating. You just don't win in cycling without cheating.
    And, we reward the winners. So . . . what do you expect?

    i dont blame him for doping either. if i was competing and i knew it was the difference between finishing 20th and finishing 1st i'd do it too. but id like to think i wouldnt be the complete jerk that he is.

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