Ladies: Shut up and Listen
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Has anyone read "Strong Women, Strong Bones" by Miriam Nelson? I was given it from a friend but haven't read it properly yet. From the gist of it, it talks about strength and the positive effects on bones etc.
Because of this post I'll pick it up again and have proper read.
I think she has another book called Strong Women Stay Young. My mother got it for me, but I never read it. I lift weights for the high.0 -
I agree...tact goes a LONG way...and self-serving, haughty, holier-than-thou, narcissistic attitudes aren't exactly inspiring or motivational.
Are you okay? The topic title: "Ladies: Shut up and Listen" was made to get people's attention. If you were soooooo offended by the title, why did you come in here? Just to call someone a "self-serving, haughty, holier-than-thou, narcissist?0 -
Just to add to the excellent OP, regular strength training has also been shown to improve bone density (not just the muscles supporting the body). It's good stuff!
Exactly!
I'll add to this - looking at my dying mother in her hospital bed I was shocked (and it is branded in my brain - and I mean BRANDED) at how wasted her muscles were and how much mobility she had lost...I don't ever want to be there. I don't ever want to know that my bones are like a birds and almost hollow. It broke my heart to be able to lift her up like a piece of drift wood. That is why when I hear the 'I don't want to bulk up thing' I feel actual pain thinking about what is in store.0 -
It is also good for your bones. Well said!0
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I agree...tact goes a LONG way...and self-serving, haughty, holier-than-thou, narcissistic attitudes aren't exactly inspiring or motivational.
Are you okay? The topic title: "Ladies: Shut up and Listen" was made to get people's attention. If you were soooooo offended by the title, why did you come in here? Just to call someone a "self-serving, haughty, holier-than-thou, narcissist?
OK...this is like a health warning and taking it as an optional piece of advice and having your special snowflake feelings hurt is besides the point! It is the truth and it is helpful to repeat it as many times as possible. Women should be lifting weights - not body building - but doing some kind of load bearing exercise so that they don't get hollow bones in later life...0 -
Great post! I finally listened, dropped most of my cardio and started lifting 3 times a week. Can't wait to see the changes that will be happening in my body this year.
I do a lot of strength - run for my cardio - and it helps with your balance now - and posture. I also find that my body is sculpted more - so like floor work for core strength plus weights. I highly recommend two things: planks (they are a b*stard but soooo good) and pull ups/chin ups (I do assisted weight ones) <they build strength and confidence - you get off your bars and feel like a super hero because you ahve done something most of the people in the gym (including the boys in the WL area) haven't or don't. I like squats with the bar too (it is 45lbs) and sufficient to get a good lift on to start working on your posture for most of your lifting needs.0 -
"Shut up and Listen" did it's job in getting your attention. Now take it as good advice and whine and complain your @$$ to the gym.
sheeesh!0 -
Haha wow, I've learned things about my personality I didn't even know I had & anyone who interacts with me on a regular basis knows better as do I.
The title, was to catch your attention
To the many defenders, Thank you
Apparently my whole post wasn't read by all
If you don't want to lift heavy then fine... There is medical proof that strength training is highly beneficial. Body weight training even (think yoga, push ups, squats, lunges, pull ups, etc)
Now I can't deliver this message in person or via video but imagine sitting with your close girlfriend over coffee and she genuinely cares for you and a situation in your life, a sensitive issue. Picture the concern & care in her eyes, warmth in her voice but a firm warmth. That's how I'd deliver this message.
I don't post on a whim & I don't believe in knocking people down.
I'm actually quite humble and blush when complimented
I don't fit the insults that have been posted & I know that.
I'm sorry some feel that way but it seems pretty hypocritical being rude & insulting me for being rude (pot / kettle)0 -
This is so true, I just joined this site to lose my baby weight.....then I started noticing all the women with super hot bodies, seemed they all lifted weights...
So I thought I'd give it a go and to my surprise I ENJOY it and I am amazed how much difference it has made to my body in a much shorter time than all the cardio in the world would ever have done!
I used to suffer from terrible lower back pain....not anymore!
Try it, what have you got to lose?
Me, too. After having six babies, I learned to like my body again...weights made an amazing difference.
And then I was so hot, I got pregnant again. :bigsmile: I continued with weight training well into my third trimester, this was my easiest pregnancy, and recovery has been lightening quick. Coincidence? I think not.
To the OP-- :drinker:0 -
To the OP - Wise, wise words. Great post. And, can I be your friend? LOL
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I am sure like minded people will praise your utter rudeness. Perhaps you should spend more time working on your abrasivness and less time ridiculing others. If you don't like what someone says about weight lifting, then speak your mind and move on. Those who don't want to do that have their own reasons. Condescending arrogance will motivate no one.
Oh, but you were totally okay with ripping apart anyone who tried to explain eating back exercise calories the other day simply because you couldn't do the math?
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To OP, thank you. I spent my 20s and much of my 30s running, and wondering why I never got faster. Lifting heavy has made me faster than ever before, and I'll be 40 before long. You are completely correct on every single count.
To your detractors, I only say that some people will miss out on a mint if they don't care for the package which contains the fortune.0 -
I disagree. Weight lifting has led to me having some serious problems. Regret. Every time I go workout I say to myself "Why the F didn't I start this 15 years ago?". Be forewarned.0
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A lot of men could listen to this advice also.0
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I disagree. Weight lifting has led to me having some serious problems. Regret. Every time I go workout I say to myself "Why the F didn't I start this 15 years ago?". Be forewarned.
lol Truth ^0 -
Can I offer some counter examples to the negative stories... My 50 year old gym buddy (who is fitter than all of us) did a 110kg deadlift last night at about 60kg BW. A few weeks ago my trainer's 76 year old mum did a 65kg deadlift.... being strong is DOPE!!
Personally I am shocked at how weak some women are happy to be. The number of people who warned me not to buy the pram I wanted, purely because it weighs 12kg is amazing.... seriously if I can't lift 12kg in and out of the car, I'd be ashamed!0 -
This is so true, I just joined this site to lose my baby weight.....then I started noticing all the women with super hot bodies, seemed they all lifted weights...
So I thought I'd give it a go and to my surprise I ENJOY it and I am amazed how much difference it has made to my body in a much shorter time than all the cardio in the world would ever have done!
I used to suffer from terrible lower back pain....not anymore!
Try it, what have you got to lose?
Me, too. After having six babies, I learned to like my body again...weights made an amazing difference.
And then I was so hot, I got pregnant again. :bigsmile: I continued with weight training well into my third trimester, this was my easiest pregnancy, and recovery has been lightening quick. Coincidence? I think not.
To the OP-- :drinker:
SIX BABIES?!? And ANOTHER ONE?!? You deserve to have a statue erected in your honor, woman!! :drinker: :drinker:0 -
Yay! Strength training for the win0
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Great post. Lifting at any age is good. For those of you in your late teens and early twenties, START NOW. I was an athlete in college and did tons of endurance weight training (moderate weight, high reps). Doing that consistently back then laid my foundation for the rest of my life. I am 100% convinced that I would be much much heavier than I am now (I'm 41) if I had never lifted. I've always found that once I start lifting again, I improve very quickly. Muscles have memory (my anecdotal evidence).
I'm two months into P90x and am really looking forward to being finished with it (I HAVE to finish it this time, since I made it through 2/3 the last time I started it) so that I can get into some real lifting again.0 -
Agreed!0
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I am sure like minded people will praise your utter rudeness. Perhaps you should spend more time working on your abrasivness and less time ridiculing others. If you don't like what someone says about weight lifting, then speak your mind and move on. Those who don't want to do that have their own reasons. Condescending arrogance will motivate no one.
You are one of the two (just joined, no progress) people that said this in a thread that's at five pages of people going, "YEAH. RIGHT ON."
Re-evaluate.0 -
Yep, my mum has severe osteoporosis and her Dr said me and my sister have to be really careful about diet etc to try and avoid it. That's why I lift weights! My sister unfortunately refuses to do any exercise except cardio. Apparently wanting muscles is weird :-/0
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Shut up is such a rude thing to say to people that I can't read your post.
Can I give you a dollar to shut your pie hole? How about a dollar for 10 pounds you squat.
From your profile, that might work.
Bwaaahahahahaaa, oh SNAP!0 -
To the OP, you are right on.
As an RN who works in orthopedics, I see the results when people do not take care of their bodies. It is not pretty. I wish I could convince all of my family and friends that weights will help them remain mobile and healthy. When I first mentioned to my mom that I would be lifting heavy she was appalled and actually told me that women who lift weights are gross. That was 7 months, 13lbs, and 10 inches ago.
I will be 30 this year and I wish I had started a long time ago. I had 3 kids in 4 years and thought there was no way I'd ever have a normal body again. Heavy lifting is transforming me into something even better than I had before kids.0 -
I disagree. Weight lifting has led to me having some serious problems. Regret. Every time I go workout I say to myself "Why the F didn't I start this 15 years ago?". Be forewarned.
^this
ETA: Oh, and OP - yay. :flowerforyou:0 -
*standing ovation*
You know, I might still be fat, but I feel the muscle under all of this jiggle now, and let me tell you, it feels amazing, and I feel healthier. You're right, we won't always be young, and it's the choices that we make NOW that affect our mobility and how we feel later on in life.0 -
I am sure like minded people will praise your utter rudeness. Perhaps you should spend more time working on your abrasivness and less time ridiculing others. If you don't like what someone says about weight lifting, then speak your mind and move on. Those who don't want to do that have their own reasons. Condescending arrogance will motivate no one.
You are one of the two (just joined, no progress) people that said this in a thread that's at five pages of people going, "YEAH. RIGHT ON."
Re-evaluate.
Your point? Are saying that people new to the site and just getting their weight loss going are not just as entitled to comment? See my previous comment in that case.0 -
I am sure like minded people will praise your utter rudeness. Perhaps you should spend more time working on your abrasivness and less time ridiculing others. If you don't like what someone says about weight lifting, then speak your mind and move on. Those who don't want to do that have their own reasons. Condescending arrogance will motivate no one.
Another one who loses out due to extreme sensitiviy and taking offense to the tone of posts on the internet but can take the time to post about it instead of working out or something else productive. Sounds legit.
And what are YOu doing? YOU don't know what I do. Unless you follow me around all day, you will never know what I do.0 -
To OP, thank you. I spent my 20s and much of my 30s running, and wondering why I never got faster. Lifting heavy has made me faster than ever before, and I'll be 40 before long. You are completely correct on every single count.
My twin!!! This is me, exactly!
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